Mac do you really like it?

annafalcon

Question to Mac users, do you really like it? I mean i was always using windows and i am going to buy new laptop and i do not know which system to choose.

jc84

I love my mac, I had a pc but bought a mac for hd video rendering and web design, haven't regretted it, much faster and simpler than windows, but macs aren't for everyone, I know a lot of people who don't like them, the os is quite different to windows but doesn't take long to get used to, it really depends on what you want it for?

annafalcon

jc84 wrote: »

I love my mac, I had a pc but bought a mac for hd video rendering and web design, haven't regretted it, much faster and simpler than windows, but macs aren't for everyone, I know a lot of people who don't like them, the os is quite different to windows but doesn't take long to get used to, it really depends on what you want it for?

This is professional answer, i was waiting for something like that, i use my laptop for many hours every day and many times i have problems with windows.

HugoBradyBrown

jc84 wrote: »

I love my mac, I had a pc but bought a mac for hd video rendering and web design, haven't regretted it, much faster and simpler than windows, but macs aren't for everyone, I know a lot of people who don't like them, the os is quite different to windows but doesn't take long to get used to, it really depends on what you want it for?

Since I use both for different purposes, I am unshakeable in my belief that Macs are streets ahead of PC / Windows technology, certainly when based on MS OS. (Linux changes the game a bit.) On every parameter except price, Mac wins hands down. And even the price premium is justified in terms of TCO, taking security, upgrades and general upkeep into account.

annafalcon

The laptop what i use is just 8 months old, but because i use it very often the windows crashes often as well, i know that i can reinstall it and will be fine again, but for how long? The situation will repeat again. That is the reason i am thinking about Mac right now.

jc84

annafalcon wrote: »

This is professional answer, i was waiting for something like that, i use my laptop for many hours every day and many times i have problems with windows.

sorry about that, just didn't know what you wanted it for, it's never crashed once for me, whereas my windows pc is forever freezing and crashing, you should go for mac then

annafalcon

jc84 wrote: »

sorry about that, just didn't know what you wanted it for, it's never crashed once for me, whereas my windows pc is forever freezing and crashing, you should go for mac then

Thanks, i think i will get one, many people recommend Mac, what is the best place to get any software for Mac? I am totaly new with this.

jc84

annafalcon wrote: »

Thanks, i think i will get one, many people recommend Mac, what is the best place to get any software for Mac? I am totaly new with this.

well you'll get a lot of built in software with the mac, the apple website details all the software that comes free, theres an app store for the mac now too, works just like for iphone etc, lots of apps there.
the thing about mac's is that a lot of the software you might already have may not be mac compatible, what kind of software would you be looking for?

Hobbes

annafalcon wrote: »

Question to Mac users, do you really like it? I mean i was always using windows and i am going to buy new laptop and i do not know which system to choose.

Yes. I prefer it over windows machines I have and use in work.

Solair

I use both all the time, and I have to say that Mac OS X is far less troublesome than Windows. It's also a lot more intuitive and less annoying to interact with.

I seem to spend a lot of time fixing niggling problems with Windows that I never have with Mac OS X.

Windows 7 has been a major improvement, but in general I still find it clunky and inconsistent compared to Mac OS X.

nightster1

annafalcon wrote: »

Question to Mac users, do you really like it? I mean i was always using windows and i am going to buy new laptop and i do not know which system to choose.

Im running macs for years and wouldn't dream of going back to pc. my present macbook pro runs windows 7 too:)

Freddie59

annafalcon wrote: »

Question to Mac users, do you really like it? I mean i was always using windows and i am going to buy new laptop and i do not know which system to choose.

Go for the Mac - you'll never go back.:)

ashleey

And you can still run windows on a mac but not the other way round.

HugoBradyBrown

ashleey wrote: »

And you can still run windows on a mac but not the other way round.

Well, Windows is an OS, Mac is not!

mathepac

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Well, Windows is an OS, Mac is not!

Windoze, any flavour or any version, is a huge pain in the butt to keep running, Mac is not

HugoBradyBrown

mathepac wrote: »

Windoze, any flavour or any version, is a huge pain in the butt to keep running, Mac is not

Yes, as my previous posts may have suggested, I agree, though I might reach for different language in which to express my views.

partyatmygaff

ashleey wrote: »

And you can still run windows on a mac but not the other way round.

Who told you that? Mac OS X has been running on PCs more or less fine since they transitioned to Intel.

You'd swear Apple use special hardware components in computers by the way some people think Mac OS X can only run on a Mac. The hardware components Apple uses in their computers are the same as any other computer maker. They don't get Intel, Samsung, Hynix, Nvidia, AMD or any of the other hundreds of hardware OEMs to make special "Apple-exclusive" products barring of course their motherboards which obviously have to be built to spec when it comes to laptops. They use the exact same pool of components as everyone else.

If for some reason you were dead set on using Mac OS X you could always get a decent Windows laptop and run Mac OS X on it. For almost half the price you'd pay for a Macbook Pro you could get yourself a Samsung Series 7 Chronos and buy OS X Lion. The difference between installing OS X on a PC Laptop and installing Windows on a Macbook is that on a Macbook running Windows will get you rubbish battery life due to a lack of good power management whereas on a laptop like the Chronos you'll get good power management hence good battery life on both OSes.

Hobbes

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Who told you that? Mac OS X has been running on PCs more or less fine since they transitioned to Intel.

There are known issues, and it isn't supported. Hence "more or less".

But the thread is a question to Mac owners "Do you really like it", not Apple vs Windows.

annafalcon

ashleey wrote: »

And you can still run windows on a mac but not the other way round.

Is it really possible? I mean to run windows on mac, i have never heard about it.

partyatmygaff

Hobbes wrote:

There are known issues, and it isn't supported. Hence "more or less".

Issues such as? There are many hardware configurations which run OS X flawlessly. Apple don't use magic components.

Also, last time I checked this is an operating system forum, not a hardware forum.

But the thread is a question to Mac owners "Do you really like it", not Apple vs Windows.

When was it ever Apple vs Windows? I was merely clearing up a misconception.

Hobbes

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Issues such as? There are many hardware configurations which run OS X flawlessly. Apple don't use magic components.

It is still unsupported by Apple. Also if you even read the Hackintosh sites you will know you can't just stick Lion any any old windows machine.

Also, last time I checked this is an operating system forum, not a hardware forum.

The OP asked a question if people liked using Mac, he didn't ask for peoples opinion on windows, or a hackintosh.

Personally I would not recommend a Hackintosh as a new system, mainly because it is unsupported by Apple. More as a try before you buy.

Sad Professor

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Also, last time I checked this is an operating system forum, not a hardware forum.

It's forum for Mac computers, which are both software and hardware combined. It's placement in the operating system sub-category is actually a mistake that nobody has been bothered to rectify since. As I argued in Feedback a while ago, it should be under C&T.

And hackintosh discussion (how to do it, etc) is actually against the charter. I wouldn't recommend that anyone do it anyway because in my experience it has major stability issues, which are not easy to fix. Nobody has every claimed that Apple use "magic components", but they do design their operating system with particular hardware configurations in mind.

K.O.Kiki

annafalcon wrote: »

Question to Mac users, do you really like it? I mean i was always using windows and i am going to buy new laptop and i do not know which system to choose.

Yes.

knotastic

Macs are built for a consistent use of professional software that rely on a computers that wont break down from software or hardware problems. Being macs they seem to contain some inherent value that the programs are built on a mac are made for a mac.

partyatmygaff

knotastic wrote: »

Macs are built for a consistent use of professional software that rely on a computers that wont break down from software or hardware problems. Being macs they seem to contain some inherent value that the programs are built on a mac are made for a mac.

That's odd. If they're built for "a consistent use of professional software that rely on a computer that wont break down from software or hardware problems" why aren't they ISV certified?

Hobbes wrote: »

It is still unsupported by Apple. Also if you even read the Hackintosh sites you will know you can't just stick Lion any any old windows machine.

I'm well aware. As for Apple not supporting it, so what? Do you need Apple's support? Surely an OS as stable, as secure, as mind-blowingly intuitive to use as Mac OS X wouldn't need you to ask for help from the developers? Why, from what I hear the only reason you should ever need to call Apple is in the event of a hardware fault. Surely, Apple's support or lack thereof is irrelevant when you're only using the OS?

The OP asked a question if people liked using Mac, he didn't ask for peoples opinion on windows, or a hackintosh.

Yes, I'm aware they did. I use Mac OS X fairly regularly (On Apple hardware before you think i'm using a hackintosh) and while I don't hate it I don't prefer it to Windows. I'm entitled to give my opinion as much as anyone else. They didn't ask for as much praise of OS X as possible. They just asked whether or not users of Mac OS X really like it.

Snowie

annafalcon wrote: »

Question to Mac users, do you really like it? I mean i was always using windows and i am going to buy new laptop and i do not know which system to choose.

Hi I've just made the switch I bought a second hand macbook pro (second hand 3 years old mid 09) .. I've always used windows..

Being honest mac has stood there and said hello I went to, work on xp even win 7the other day and i got angry. cause its just so frustrating... to use.

Heres just why i like it

Lion for me is
intuitive its easy and productive to work with, its just so simple and enjoy able the way they've brought touch screen to a computer with pinching scrolling.. the 3 finger swipe which lets you go to other programs your using..

The spelling program the spells the word, for me and bare in mind I'm dyslexic so its made my life so much more simple as it corrects my spelling as I type windows doesn't do that or maybe my windows didn't...

I swear I think apple have made an Os that is second to none, Its made my life easier.

well my

2 cents

hmmm

I don't find Macs any more or less easy to use than Windows, but with Macs I seem to spend less time fighting the operating system and more time doing stuff. Windows PCs in particular seem to deteriorate over time, whereas the Mac tends to just keep doing what it always did.

Linux is worth a go too - Ubuntu used to be a very stable OS which didn't get in the way of getting stuff done, unfortunately recent releases have left the side down badly.

Freddie59

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Who told you that? Mac OS X has been running on PCs more or less fine since they transitioned to Intel.

You'd swear Apple use special hardware components in computers by the way some people think Mac OS X can only run on a Mac. The hardware components Apple uses in their computers are the same as any other computer maker. They don't get Intel, Samsung, Hynix, Nvidia, AMD or any of the other hundreds of hardware OEMs to make special "Apple-exclusive" products barring of course their motherboards which obviously have to be built to spec when it comes to laptops. They use the exact same pool of components as everyone else.

If for some reason you were dead set on using Mac OS X you could always get a decent Windows laptop and run Mac OS X on it. For almost half the price you'd pay for a Macbook Pro you could get yourself a Samsung Series 7 Chronos and buy OS X Lion. The difference between installing OS X on a PC Laptop and installing Windows on a Macbook is that on a Macbook running Windows will get you rubbish battery life due to a lack of good power management whereas on a laptop like the Chronos you'll get good power management hence good battery life on both OSes.

Can I ask why you appear to be so vehemently opposed to Macs?

partyatmygaff

Freddie59 wrote: »

Can I ask why you appear to be so vehemently opposed to Macs?

The hardware's good (Yet not top class), the software's adequate but not excellent but the real kicker is the lack of value for money the further up the range you go. The Macbook Air is the only computer product they sell that I think is relatively good value for money. The Macbook Pro on the other hand is vastly overpriced for what you get.


To put it simply, if someone bought me a Mac, i'd be very content to use it (With bootcamp of course ). When it comes to me spending my own money, i'd never buy a Mac. It's not because the price is too high but because I can get a far better computer at the same price point.

conor.hogan.2

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Who told you that? Mac OS X has been running on PCs more or less fine since they transitioned to Intel.

You'd swear Apple use special hardware components in computers by the way some people think Mac OS X can only run on a Mac. The hardware components Apple uses in their computers are the same as any other computer maker. They don't get Intel, Samsung, Hynix, Nvidia, AMD or any of the other hundreds of hardware OEMs to make special "Apple-exclusive" products barring of course their motherboards which obviously have to be built to spec when it comes to laptops. They use the exact same pool of components as everyone else.

If for some reason you were dead set on using Mac OS X you could always get a decent Windows laptop and run Mac OS X on it. For almost half the price you'd pay for a Macbook Pro you could get yourself a Samsung Series 7 Chronos and buy OS X Lion. The difference between installing OS X on a PC Laptop and installing Windows on a Macbook is that on a Macbook running Windows will get you rubbish battery life due to a lack of good power management whereas on a laptop like the Chronos you'll get good power management hence good battery life on both OSes.

Hmm kernel panics.

Colonel Panic

Colonel Panics are way better.

Nemanja91

I love my iMac, I hate having to use windows computers in college, macs are just so much easier to use.

ashleey

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Well, Windows is an OS, Mac is not!

I was too lazy to write mac osx lion etc but never mind!

Freddie59

partyatmygaff wrote: »

The hardware's good (Yet not top class), the software's adequate but not excellent but the real kicker is the lack of value for money the further up the range you go. The Macbook Air is the only computer product they sell that I think is relatively good value for money. The Macbook Pro on the other hand is vastly overpriced for what you get.


To put it simply, if someone bought me a Mac, i'd be very content to use it (With bootcamp of course ). When it comes to me spending my own money, i'd never buy a Mac. It's not because the price is too high but because I can get a far better computer at the same price point.

But we're back around in a circle again. This is your opinion from your own relative position.

sham69

Can't see myself ever buying a windows machine ever again.
No worrying about viruses, no annoying popups with everything you do.
Plug and play generally means plug and play.
I have no windows machine at home (except for one running an arcade machine)
I even converted my GF who said she would never use a mac.
She loves her macbook and I can see this conversion costing me a lot of money in the future...

ashleey

What I meant to say was

If you get a mac then if you find you need windows also then you can run windows on a mac.

If you buy a pc but decide you love osx then you will have to buy a mac as well as your pc.

That's why I love a mac.

Sorry, I didn't intend to go off on their relative merits.

Also, technically running osx on non mac hardware is a licence violation.

Try Linux and make it look like osx if you like, it's a good fun project.

partyatmygaff

ashleey wrote: »

What I meant to say was

If you get a mac then if you find you need windows also then you can run windows on a mac.

If you buy a pc but decide you love osx then you will have to buy a mac as well as your pc.

That's why I love a mac.

You love a Mac because you can run Windows on it? That's one of the main thing's I like about Apple's hardware too

Also, technically running osx on non mac hardware is a licence violation.

Apple and their draconian licence agreements...

IMO, if you buy a piece of software you should be free to use it in any way you like. It's only an issue if you're an OEM who decides to sell computers with Mac OS X preinstalled.

partyatmygaff

Freddie59 wrote: »

But we're back around in a circle again. This is your opinion from your own relative position.

Well, yes... It is.

What did you expect when you asked me "Why are you so vehemently opposed to Macs?" ?

The OP asked if people who use Mac OS X (And Macs in general I suppose) like it. I use Mac OS X fairly regularly and I find it clunky and not an ideal OS for anything above the simplest of computer tasks.

Also, as someone who regularly uses but doesn't actually own a Mac I have a less clouded opinion of the OS as I am not trying to subconsciously justify my own purchase decisions.

Colonel Panic

The simplest computer tasks? As opposed to complicated computer tasks? Like what?

also:

Also, as someone who regularly uses but doesn't actually own a Mac I have a less clouded opinion of the OS as I am not trying to subconsciously justify my own purchase decisions.

what a ridiculous statement! It's like saying "I'm impartial so I know what I'm talking about! Listen to me!!!"

You're like the Mac forum's very own Richard Dawkins, thinking he's saving people from themselves by treating them like they don't have a clue. Very childish imo.

was.deevey

Apple and their draconian licence agreements...

IMO, if you buy a piece of software you should be free to use it in any way you like. It's only an issue if you're an OEM who decides to sell computers with Mac OS X preinstalled.

You don't BUY OSX in the first place, you are licensed to use it at which stage you agree to only use it on Apple Mac Computer systems.

The OS is either included pre-installed as part of the machine OR also available as an upgrade to a previously installed version of OSX.

Factor in that when you buy your samsung series 7, Dell or whatever you are getting a "lite" version of Windows7 as well ... how much for an upgrade nowadays ?

I use Mac OS X fairly regularly and I find it clunky and not an ideal OS for anything above the simplest of computer tasks.

I would also love to hear more about these complicated tasks that cannot be done on a Mac ?

Sad Professor

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Also, as someone who regularly uses but doesn't actually own a Mac I have a less clouded opinion of the OS as I am not trying to subconsciously justify my own purchase decisions.

And what about the rest of us, who regularly use but don't own a Windows PC? I assume on the basis of what you just said that you feel we have a less clouded opinion of Windows as opposed to someone like yourself who might be subconsciously trying to justify.. Oh wait, I think I've just exposed what you said as being nonsense.

taylorconor95

"Once you go Mac, you'll never go back"

Never been a truer statement. It should actually be a warning when buying macs because it's gonna cost me a lot of money any time I want to update my machine!

Sure, they're expensive, but in my opinion you get what you pay for. Looks: amazing. Hardware: amazing but not top of the range. Software: Unparalleled. User experience: ^^ sorry just went through the roof.

partyatmygaff

Colonel Panic wrote: »

The simplest computer tasks? As opposed to complicated computer tasks? Like what?

Most tasks involving professional and specialist software. Last year when I had a design project, I needed to use at least four different professional software packages ranging from CAD, PCB/Electronics design to CNC programming. Not one of those applications would have run on Mac OS X. Sure I could use boot camp but er... Why should I have to inconvenience myself with a dual boot or virtual machine when Windows 7 does everything Mac OS X does equally if not better?

There's also the little things that can hamper workflow like using "Cmd + O" to open a folder in finder rather than just "Enter" in Windows Explorer. I rarely use my mouse, I find that I work faster using keyboard shortcuts and minimal mouse movements.

what a ridiculous statement! It's like saying "I'm impartial so I know what I'm talking about! Listen to me!!!"

You're like the Mac forum's very own Richard Dawkins, thinking he's saving people from themselves by treating them like they don't have a clue. Very childish imo.

If only you knew me... I'm the last person that could be described as being anything like Richard Dawkins. :P

was.deevey wrote: »

You don't BUY OSX in the first place, you are licensed to use it at which stage you agree to only use it on Apple Mac Computer systems.

The OS is either included pre-installed as part of the machine OR also available as an upgrade to a previously installed version of OSX.

When I buy software (Or a software licence in other words) I'll use it in any way I see fit. If Adobe for example decided to say "Photoshop can only be run on 'Photoshop Workstation'-branded computers" there would be uproar. I don't see why it should be different for an operating system.

Factor in that when you buy your samsung series 7, Dell or whatever you are getting a "lite" version of Windows7 as well ... how much for an upgrade nowadays ?

What 'lite' version of Windows 7?

There's Starter/Home Basic which is only sold on the lowest-end netbooks and laptops on which anything more would be a waste and unnecessarily expensive and Home Premium/Professional/Ultimate.

Considering that laptops in the price range of a Mac usually come with Windows 7 Professional/Ultimate I don't really see your point. The top-spec Series 7 for example comes with Windows 7 Professional.

Freddie59

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Well, yes... It is.

What did you expect when you asked me "Why are you so vehemently opposed to Macs?" ?

The OP asked if people who use Mac OS X (And Macs in general I suppose) like it. I use Mac OS X fairly regularly and I find it clunky and not an ideal OS for anything above the simplest of computer tasks.

Also, as someone who regularly uses but doesn't actually own a Mac I have a less clouded opinion of the OS as I am not trying to subconsciously justify my own purchase decisions.

Now that's a bit of waffle in fairness.:p Do you really think Mac owners want 'justify their purchase' as you put it? We pay a premium for a premium device and service (Apple have the highest Net Promoter Score in the World). And that's for a reason.

As one who used (and still uses) OPCs for 13 years, there really is NO comparison between the performance of the two systems. That's the bottom line.

Colonel Panic

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Most tasks involving professional and specialist software. Last year when I had a design project, I needed to use at least four different professional software packages ranging from CAD, PCB/Electronics design to CNC programming. Not one of those applications would have run on Mac OS X. Sure I could use boot camp but er... Why should I have to inconvenience myself with a dual boot or virtual machine when Windows 7 does everything Mac OS X does equally if not better?

So one industry? I come from an engineering background but went towards software development and there's very little I can't do in terms of my workflow on Windows or Apple machines/operating systems.

partyatmygaff wrote: »

There's also the little things that can hamper workflow like using "Cmd + O" to open a folder in finder rather than just "Enter" in Windows Explorer. I rarely use my mouse, I find that I work faster using keyboard shortcuts and minimal mouse movements.

They hamper your workflow, not millions of other people. If you use Macs regularly they should be muscle memory!

partyatmygaff wrote: »

If only you knew me... I'm the last person that could be described as being anything like Richard Dawkins. :P

That is the joke... I checked your post history! You like having arguments don't you? Seriously man, life's too short!

cornbb

partyatmygaff wrote: »

The OP asked if people who use Mac OS X (And Macs in general I suppose) like it. I use Mac OS X fairly regularly and I find it clunky and not an ideal OS for anything above the simplest of computer tasks.

Well, that's your experience. I'm a software professional and I haven't had a reason to boot anything other than OS X in years. If you work in an industry which ties you into Windows, that is your loss.

Funnily enough, I've found Windows to be less than capable of performing the simplest of tasks. Why should I need to install 3rd party bloatware in order to do trivial things like open PDF files, partition volumes or open archive files? The fact that you prefer to use your keyboard over your mouse is unfortunate, the Windows command line interface is nothing short of a joke.

Colonel Panic

These are definitely strengths of OS X. The power of things like Disk Utility, the smartness of Spotlight (and no, Windows 7's indexing is nowhere near the same), Time Machine, the ability to use Unix and Linux apps and libraries if you're technically inclined are all pretty great!

Plus as a developer, I personally think app sandboxing and locked down stores for distribution benefit users. Knowing that an app is relatively stable and secure is a bit win. Sure, DRM isn't ideal but the App Store's method and indeed Apple's pretty easy going enforcement of licensing in general is excellent.

ashleey

partyatmygaff wrote: »

You love a Mac because you can run Windows on it? That's one of the main thing's I like about Apple's hardware too


Apple and their draconian licence agreements...

IMO, if you buy a piece of software you should be free to use it in any way you like. It's only an issue if you're an OEM who decides to sell computers with Mac OS X preinstalled.

No, I hate windows but I love that if I have to I can do it one box. I hate mac licensing but I also hate windows licensing. I put Ubuntu on my laptop for that reason. It's far neater than a hackintosh.

I like that my mac works nicely with my apple tv and iPhone. I got fed up with windows glitches and updates but mac osx also has a few.

The point is that a mac works better than a windows pc in my consumer environment but I must admit all that fanboy stuff is mental.

partyatmygaff

Colonel Panic wrote: »

So one industry? I come from an engineering background but went towards software development and there's very little I can't do in terms of my workflow on Windows or Apple machines/operating systems.

Well... not really. I used all of that software to design and make my Leaving Cert Engineering project. I have a pretty wide range of interests. I'm currently studying Pharmacy and the software I use for that too isn't available for Mac OS X.

As for the software industry, that's to be expected as the industry directly relates to the machine being used. It's the one industry that's equally represented across all three major platforms.

They hamper your workflow, not millions of other people. If you use Macs regularly they should be muscle memory!

Yes, it's not that much of a hindrance on its own but when you add up any other niggling issues like that you end up saying to yourself "Why should I have to put up with this when there's an alternative?".

That is the joke... I checked your post history! You like having arguments don't you? Seriously man, life's too short!

Well... they can be interesting/entertaining. Threads like these are great because I love talking about anything to do with computers. Threads of the type that get posted on AH I usually get fed up of fairly quickly.

cornbb wrote: »

Well, that's your experience. I'm a software professional and I haven't had a reason to boot anything other than OS X in years. If you work in an industry which ties you into Windows, that is your loss.

Well yes it's my experience. I never said it was anything else. Just because my experience wasn't positive like other people on this thread doesn't make it invalid.

Funnily enough, I've found Windows to be less than capable of performing the simplest of tasks. Why should I need to install 3rd party bloatware in order to do trivial things like open PDF files, partition volumes or open archive files?

For one, installing a PDF reader is hardly a taxing or difficult procedure. In any case, Windows 8 will include a native PDF reader so that's that done and dusted.

As for partitioning volumes, logical disk manager has been available since Windows 2000. Or at least I remember using it back then anyway.

The fact that you prefer to use your keyboard over your mouse is unfortunate, the Windows command line interface is nothing short of a joke.

You know perfectly well what I meant and it had nothing to do with the command line.

ashleey

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Colonel Panic wrote: »

So one industry? I come from an engineering background but went towards software development and there's very little I can't do in terms of my workflow on Windows or Apple machines/operating systems.

Well... not really. I used all of that software to design and make my Leaving Cert Engineering project. I have a pretty wide range of interests. I'm currently studying Pharmacy and the software I use for that too isn't available for Mac OS X.

As for the software industry, that's to be expected as the industry directly relates to the machine being used. It's the one industry that's equally represented across all three major platforms.

They hamper your workflow, not millions of other people. If you use Macs regularly they should be muscle memory!

Yes, it's not that much of a hindrance on its own but when you add up any other niggling issues like that you end up saying to yourself "Why should I have to put up with this when there's an alternative?".

That is the joke... I checked your post history! You like having arguments don't you? Seriously man, life's too short!

Well... they can be interesting/entertaining. Threads like these are great because I love talking about anything to do with computers. Threads of the type that get posted on AH I usually get fed up of fairly quickly.

cornbb wrote: »

Well, that's your experience. I'm a software professional and I haven't had a reason to boot anything other than OS X in years. If you work in an industry which ties you into Windows, that is your loss.

Well yes it's my experience. I never said it was anything else. Just because my experience wasn't positive like other people on this thread doesn't make it invalid.

Funnily enough, I've found Windows to be less than capable of performing the simplest of tasks. Why should I need to install 3rd party bloatware in order to do trivial things like open PDF files, partition volumes or open archive files?

For one, installing a PDF reader is hardly a taxing or difficult procedure. In any case, Windows 8 will include a native PDF reader so that's that done and dusted.

As for partitioning volumes, logical disk manager has been available since Windows 2000. Or at least I remember using it back then anyway.

The fact that you prefer to use your keyboard over your mouse is unfortunate, the Windows command line interface is nothing short of a joke.

You know perfectly well what I meant and it had nothing to do with the command line.

Do be careful with describing software as 'clunky' unless you are Steve jobs, bill gates etc .

partyatmygaff

ashleey wrote: »

Do be careful with describing software as 'clunky' unless you are Steve jobs, bill gates etc .

Eh, why?

They're not God-like software developers or anything. Out of those two, the only one who was actually a programmer at some point was Bill Gates. Even at that the pair of them are better known as business men and designers than as programmers.

In any case, you don't need to have founded a software/hardware firm to be able to give your opinion on a piece of software or hardware.