canadian society for gay animals objects to penguins

DidierV

yutta wrote: »

But you must ask how God could allow for love without the potential for evil? God could have created robots that do nothing more than forever say, "I love you, I love you, I love you." Such beings would be incapable of any kind of real love. Love is a choice, and the Bible says that God desires a real love relationship with His creation. Love is not real unless we have the ability to not love.

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

The potential for love outweighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil.

Of course if you refute the existence of God, you won't find much truth in the above, although you might get some insight as to where Christians come from.

I'm not saying these penguins are inherently evil - they probably think they're reproducing. I mean if you stick two penguins in a cell together, eventually the powerful reproductive reflex will kick in.

Ah so and how did God allow for the bad judgmental attitude of YOU Yutta?
Judging our Beloved God's creations, sitting there in front ofyour cmputer screen casting judgement on something so natural as 2 of God's belove penguins.
Shape up or ship out.
Shame on you.
Beg Allah for forgiveness.

yutta

DidierV wrote: »

Define "right" and by whose standards?
Certainly not YOUR "standards" Yutta--versus GOD's!!!
You clearly consider yourself "pious",
GOD created those penguins : as they are.
God is the creator of every living thing and most certainly ALL that is natural. as defined as being that which is found in NATURE.
Here Yutta for your education in the definition of the word NATURAL.
Look & Learn.
(You're welcome)


nat·u·ral   [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl] Show IPA
adjective
1.
existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial): a natural bridge.
2.
based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature: Growth is a natural process. (ie: GAY PENGUINS)
3.
of or pertaining to nature or the universe: natural beauty.
4.
of, pertaining to, or occupied with the study of natural science: conducting natural experiments.
5.
in a state of nature; uncultivated, as land.


Save your sanctimonious and erroneous use of quotation marks.
Nobody cares what you think or have to say in criticism of that what is most definitely GOD MADE and NATURAL (sans your obnoxious quotation marks) --ESPECIALLY when you are sitting there on your holier than GOD judgmental paranoid of gays horse; passing judgement on God's holy creation of gay penguins.

Leave the damned penguins alone and go get a life-stop busy bodying around everyone else's love life.

I forgive you Yutta for your judgemental slur against our Almighty Lord.
(You just needed to be put in your place)

Lots of phenomenon occur "naturally" - including incestuous relationships and mothers who kill their newborns.

These naturally occuring things do not translate into the human domain.

Frank Black

When you're dealing with gay penguins the issues are rarely black and white.

jockeyboard

This is a terrible story about a 'forbidden' love similar to that mighty fine film broke back mountain....
They could remake it using these penguins and call it broke beak mountain.

Anyone anyone???
*gets coat, but giggles on way out*

footnote-i love all animals regardless of their sexual preferences.:D

Sunnyisland

I think we should count yourself lucky it was penguins , Imagine if it was Gay elephants.

gurramok

Buddy is a paedo?

Zoo officials told the Toronto Star that Buddy, 21, and Pedro, 10, were spotted engaging in courtship and mating behavior similar to those of female and male penguins.

Ah feck from Yutta's posts, wonder if the penguins are Christian, Muslim or Hindu, anyone?

strobe

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

If they're actually gay, they won't have sex with the females regardless. Then they can be together again.

Indeed. Sure maybe they are bi-penguins.

I say lash them in separate cages with a couple of chicks and let them experiment. Don't knock it till you tried it and all that.

woodoo

Increasing numbers is more important than these two lovers prancing about like their on the set of brokeback mountain.

Logical Fallacy

yutta wrote: »

But you must ask how God could allow for love without the potential for evil? God could have created robots that do nothing more than forever say, "I love you, I love you, I love you." Such beings would be incapable of any kind of real love. Love is a choice, and the Bible says that God desires a real love relationship with His creation. Love is not real unless we have the ability to not love.

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

The potential for love outweighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil.

Of course if you refute the existence of God, you won't find much truth in the above, although you might get some insight as to where Christians come from.

I'm not saying these penguins are inherently evil - they probably think they're reproducing. I mean if you stick two penguins in a cell together, eventually the powerful reproductive reflex will kick in.

What the **** are you on about?

yutta wrote: »

Lots of phenomenon occur "naturally" - including incestuous relationships and mothers who kill their newborns.

These naturally occuring things do not translate into the human domain.

And again, what are you on about?

galwayrush

Did any of the penguins play rugby?

psychward

How does anyone know they are Gay ? Maybe one of them dropped the soap and they were having prison (zoo) sex

smokingman

Snakeblood wrote: »

What's the greater good for two gay penguins banging? How are penguins banging even evil? They're penguins, it's doubtful they've even read the bible, at best they've skimmed it, and noticed it barely mentions penguins at all.

It does mention unicorns though...and dragons, talking donkeys, talking snakes etc...

Yutta obviously knows his stuff where "un-natural" animals are concerned :pac:




...
EDIT; there are actually unicorns in the bible, look it up, I am honestly not pulling your leg on that! ****ing unicorns!

oppenheimer1

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

FFS! If they want the species to survive then they should just get some of the penguin's sperm, freeze it and use it for IVF later...

I think that LGBT people should boycott the zoo. It's a disgrace. The poor penguins shouldn't be forced into something they don't want to do. It would traumatize them and destroy their relationship. Does the zookeeper think that homosexuality is a choice? Disgusting.

I assume (hope!) you're not being sincere. These are animals, endangered ones at that and we need them to breed. It is only right that they are put in a situation which allows this to happen. If they don't breed after this... well so be it.

We need to stop projecting human emotions on animals, because animals don't have human emotions.

psychward

jokes aside .... is there really a gay group so extreme that they would rather a species of penguin dies out than simply be placed next to a female ''just in case'' they reproduce ?
Not that I believe the argument but only extremist idiots would play into the hands of the oft used homophobic argument that ''gayness'' should be stamped out because it will endanger the survival of the species.

gurramok

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

I assume (hope!) you're not being sincere. These are animals, endangered ones at that and we need them to breed. It is only right that they are put in a situation which allows this to happen. If they don't breed after this... well so be it.

We need to stop projecting human emotions on animals, because animals don't have human emotions.

How do you know?

oppenheimer1

gurramok wrote: »

How do you know?

Because they are animals:rolleyes:

Killer Pigeon

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

I assume (hope!) you're not being sincere. These are animals, endangered ones at that and we need them to breed. It is only right that they are put in a situation which allows this to happen. If they don't breed after this... well so be it.

We need to stop projecting human emotions on animals, because animals don't have human emotions.

How do you know that penguins don't feel heartbreak too? Don't penguins keep the same mate for years on end?

The breeding issue could easily be solved using IVF and collecting the penguin's sperm.

smokingman

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Because they are animals:rolleyes:

Apes show emotions akin to ours; you have to remember, we're animals too.

Killer Pigeon

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Because they are animals:rolleyes:

Humans are animals too.

charlemont

yutta wrote: »

But you must ask how God could allow for love without the potential for evil? God could have created robots that do nothing more than forever say, "I love you, I love you, I love you." Such beings would be incapable of any kind of real love. Love is a choice, and the Bible says that God desires a real love relationship with His creation. Love is not real unless we have the ability to not love.

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

The potential for love outweighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil.

Of course if you refute the existence of God, you won't find much truth in the above, although you might get some insight as to where Christians come from.

I'm not saying these penguins are inherently evil - they probably think they're reproducing. I mean if you stick two penguins in a cell together, eventually the powerful reproductive reflex will kick in.

Your on a mission tonight !! Turn on a porn channel and relax for yourself ..

Saila

titles a win! - best for a while

oppenheimer1

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

How do you know that penguins don't feel heartbreak too? Don't penguins keep the same mate for years on end?

The breeding issue could easily be solved using IVF and collecting the penguin's sperm.

How do you know they do?

Look this has been wrapped up as an LGBT issue when its not. Its actually a conservation issue and has nothing to do with homosexuals or discrimination.

IVF you say... but don't penguins form breeding pairs to raise their young? In this instance perhaps IVF is inappropriate? Perhaps the zookeepers want them to mate naturally? There is a whole host of reasons for it, and quite frankly its none of the gay lobbys business.

Incidentally the article also reports that the birds will be reunited afterwards. What is the fuss?

oppenheimer1

smokingman wrote: »

Apes show emotions akin to ours; you have to remember, we're animals too.

Do penguins?

Truth is we cannot determine how animals feel, if they have feelings or emotions at all beyond primal instincts. Since its clear no other species has developed the skills of humans, it is also likely they do not have the same emotional depth and intelligence also.