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A war involving Iran??

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    #32
    Tenger
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    Border-Rat wrote: »
    ....If we are to believe the kleptocrats, the taking of Baghdad is one of the most spectacular victories in history....
    The pre-invasion estimates were that the US would have to fight their way through the Iraqi army to get to Baghdad. In reality they charged headlong north (bypassing areas of resistance) and made it into the city before many Iraqi commander even knew they were nearby.

    So yes it was spectacular.

    As regards the U235 found in Iraq, Depleted uranium shells.

    I had previously read that as the UK were phasing out that type the tankers had been old not to worry about using up all the stockpile.


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    #33
    Tenger
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    Oh look, the Saudi spy apparatus have been reading our thread:


    (Reuters) - A military attack on Iran aimed at halting its nuclear program could have catastrophic consequences and only strengthen Tehran's determination to make an atomic weapon, the former head of Saudi Arabia's intelligence services said on Tuesday.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/15/us-iran-saudi-idUSTRE7AE2NE20111115


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    #34
    jw93
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    For anyone interested here's the Russian perspective:

    http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20111115/168714032.html


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    #35
    maquiladora
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    US Navy has issued a Special Maritime Warning for the Strait of Hormuz for December 2011 to March 2012.
    - http://envoy360.posterous.com/us-navy-issues-maritime-warning-for-the-strai

    Iran announces 10 days of naval exercies starting Saturday.
    When asked Thursday if the strait will be closed as part of the impending naval drill, [navy commander Admiral Habibollah] Sayari said, according to the ISNA news agency: "The ability to do so exists... whether to go ahead lays with the regime's top officials."
    - http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hb6c4o3KNKCvire4Spj6wW_VEtgw?docId=CNG.e2eaa3a1d5b6df35ac9841bb3a6ef85b.a81

    Back on Dec 13th, this was reported before Iran announced the exercises today:
    "Soon we will hold a military maneuver on how to close the Strait of Hormuz," said Sorouri, a member of the national security and foreign policy committee, according to Fars. "If the world wants to make the region insecure, we will make the world insecure."
    - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/12/13/bloomberg_articlesLW4YHF1A1I4J.DTL

    There may be trouble ahead...


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    #36
    maquiladora
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    Uh oh...

    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007270216


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    goldie fish
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    So which foreign naval vessel will be first to break the blockade?
    Or rather, which vessel of the carrier group...


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    cyrusdvirus
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    goldie fish wrote: »
    So which foreign naval vessel will be first to break the blockade?
    Or rather, which vessel of the carrier group...


    At times like this I'd be considering breaking out one of the Iowa's......

    Imagine going up to one of them in a gun boat telling the skipper that he can't sail through..... Next thing there are nine 16 inch guns are trained on you.....:eek::eek:


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    Fratton Fred
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    gatecrash wrote: »
    At times like this I'd be considering breaking out one of the Iowa's......

    Imagine going up to one of them in a gun boat telling the skipper that he can't sail through..... Next thing there are nine 16 inch guns are trained on you.....:eek::eek:

    I knew a few guys that were doing the Armilla Patrols during the 80s when this all kicked off before and from what I gather, this is pretty much what happened on a daily basis.

    A tanker would sail through the straits, two or three Iranian patrol boats would start to track it and a RN destroyer would place itself between the two. Therefore, if an Iranian ship opened fire, the destroyer could presume it was under attack and respond. The beauty being the Iranians used fly by wire missiles that were half the speed of a Sea Dart.


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