Hunted to extinction

steddyeddy

The javan rhino is now extinct in mainland asia. Its extinction was preventable as many were hunted link below.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/10/111028-vietnam-javan-rhinos-extinct-species-science-animals/

The last one was poached for its horn for use in a medicine I can only describe as primitive and useless. Does extinction matter or do people make a big deal about nothing?

Chuck Stone

So depressing.

:''''(

MrJoeSoap

99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Whilst it saddens me like most people, it does happen all the time.

El Guapo!

Domo230 wrote: »

I still havnt gotten over us losing the Dodo

Didn't he die in a crash with Princess Diana?












:pac:

Ghandee

Dean09 wrote: »

Didn't he die in a crash with Princess Diana?












:pac:

Bravo sir, Bravo!

steddyeddy

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

99.9% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. Whilst it saddens me like most people, it does happen all the time.

Mass extinctions dont happen all the time and the sad thing is were responsible for the sixth mass extinction, the holocene extinction. Easily avoidable extinctions dont happen all the time and this along with a lot of other extinctions were easily avoidable.

im invisible

...thought the title said 'haunted to extinction'

ScumLord

steddyeddy wrote: »

Mass extinctions dont happen all the time and the sad thing is were responsible for the sixth mass extinction, the holocene extinction. Easily avoidable extinctions dont happen all the time and this along with a lot of other extinctions were easily avoidable.

It's not a mass extinction, it was a slow decline of a animal that couldn't avoid the planets top predator. Big animals like that are always at risk.

Hasmunch

Do Did they taste good in a burger is the important question though

steddyeddy

ScumLord wrote: »

It's not a mass extinction, it was a slow decline of a animal that couldn't avoid the planets top predator. Big animals like that are always at risk.

Thats not what mass extinction means. Mass extinction is a zoological term referring to a sharp decline in animal (macro) diversity. That wasnt predation for food that was predation by some people who are dumb enough to beleive that rhino horn cures whatever illness they have.

V_Moth

ScumLord wrote: »

It's not a mass extinction, it was a slow decline of a animal that couldn't avoid the planets top predator. Big animals like that are always at risk.

I didn't know Polar Bears lived in Java

Also, I find it depressing that you support the extinction of species...

WindSock

Sure another strain of Rhino will pop up its place now to replace it.

Isn't that how ebolution works?

ScumLord

steddyeddy wrote: »

Thats not what mass extinction means. Mass extinction is a zoological term referring to a sharp decline in animal (macro) diversity.

I still don't see how one species of Rino being hunted to extinction is a mass extinction by your definition.

V_Moth wrote: »

Also, I find it depressing that you support the extinction of species...

I support the extinction of all species so that rocks can rule the planet again.

ascanbe

steddyeddy wrote: »

The javan rhino is now extinct in mainland asia. Its extinction was preventable as many were hunted link below.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/10/111028-vietnam-javan-rhinos-extinct-species-science-animals/

The last one was poached for its horn for use in a medicine I can only describe as primitive and useless. Does extinction matter or do people make a big deal about nothing?

Sad.
On a lighter note, the bit i've bolded is kind of funny.

pragmatic1

It is sad but millions of species became extinct before humans were even around. We're not some artificial or alien entity on this planet, we're a part of nature like every other animal.

tiger55

Never knew they had Rhinos in Asia.

V_Moth

ScumLord wrote: »

I still don't see how one species of Rino being hunted to extinction is a mass extinction by your definition.

Eastern Cougar
Saudi Gazelle
Pyrenean Ibex
Chinese River Dolphin
Sturdee's Pipistrelle

What do all of these have in common? They all went extinct in the last ten years. And these are large and easy to study animals, unlike amphibians, insects, etc which are going extinct at a rate of knots.

ejmaztec

tiger55 wrote: »

Never knew they had Rhinos in Asia.

They probably haven't now.:(

V_Moth

pragmatic1 wrote: »

It is sad but millions of species became extinct before humans were even around. We're not some artificial or alien entity on this planet, we're a part of nature like every other animal.

Yes, but none of them became extinct by being ground up into some kind of viagra potion.

ScumLord

V_Moth wrote: »

Eastern Cougar
Saudi Gazelle
Pyrenean Ibex
Chinese River Dolphin
Sturdee's Pipistrelle

What do all of these have in common? They all went extinct in the last ten years. And these are large and easy to study animals, unlike amphibians, insects, etc which are going extinct at a rate of knots.

Is that really a mass extinction though? Sounds more like normal maybe slightly exaggerated extinction.

MagicMarker

WindSock wrote: »

Sure another strain of Rhino will pop up its place now to replace it.

Isn't that how ebolution works?

Not sure if serious.

pragmatic1

V_Moth wrote: »

Yes, but none of them became extinct by being ground up into some kind of viagra potion.

That doesnt actually matter. They became extinct by something other than humans. Its not humans vs nature, we are a force of nature ourselves.

sgb

[QUOTE= ebolution

You have been caught by the nazi spelling police

Did not quote the poster, because it was a mod



Sorry WindStock

steddyeddy

ScumLord wrote: »

I still don't see how one species of Rino being hunted to extinction is a mass extinction by your definition.

I support the extinction of all species so that rocks can rule the planet again.

The mass extinction refers to the animals killed during the holocence which is now.

When rocks rule the planet well be long dead.

steddyeddy

ScumLord wrote: »

Is that really a mass extinction though? Sounds more like normal maybe slightly exaggerated extinction.

No its not normal.

WindSock

sgb wrote: »

You have been caught by the nazi spelling police

Did not quote the poster, because it was a mod



Sorry WindStock

Ooh. Been caught by the unable to quote another user mod...and spelling name wrong. And falling into the sarchasm pit from my post!

Triple burn. Close ur account :pac:


btw you can quote mods, if you can do it properly. You can't :P

TheUsual

Domo230 wrote: »

I still havnt gotten over us losing the Dodo

The Dodo died because he was delicious. Much nicer than KFC chicken.

Anything that goes extinct must be really really tasty.

im invisible

TheUsual wrote: »

The Dodo died because he was delicious. Much nicer than KFC chicken.

Anything that goes extinct must be really really tasty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k-l1HLj9Nk

steddyeddy

im invisible wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k-l1HLj9Nk

Ha I was thinking of exactly that.

WindSock

steddyeddy wrote: »

Ha I was thinking of exactly that.

Same!


I've really wanted to try one of those delicious tortoises since that show.

steddyeddy

WindSock wrote: »

Same!


I've really wanted to try one of those delicious tortoises since that show.

+ they store water and as sean said they probraly contain a kinder surprise!

woodoo

Hurrah!! Lets have another 7 billion humans on the earth, Because we are special..... we are not becoming parasitic at all..... no no no.

pragmatic1

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Its not humans vs nature, we are a force of nature ourselves.

We're a part of nature, but it's not just the destructive things we do that are part of our nature, we also have the ability to make decisions, look at the bigger picture, be informed of what's going on in our environment, and choose to try to conserve certain species. So when we conserve we're acting as a force of nature too. So "it's natural" isn't really an excuse for killing a huge animal for one small part of it's anatomy (not that I'm saying that's what you were saying).

steddyeddy

woodoo wrote: »

Hurrah!! Lets have another 7 billion humans on the earth, Because we are special..... we are not becoming parasitic at all..... no no no.

Thats mental isnt it. I think theres going to be a point were we starve ourselves to death!

Feisar

Its sad but we live in a survival of the fittest world. As sentient beings we should rise above that but unfortunately we don't.

Now the question is are we all responsible or is it down to those directly involved to carry the blame?

A broader question comes to mind on this issue for me; does my 1st world consumerism have a negative effect on the lives of people in the third world??

steddyeddy

Feisar wrote: »

Its sad but we live in a survival of the fittest world. As sentient beings we should rise above that but unfortunately we don't.

Now the question is are we all responsible or is it down to those directly involved to carry the blame?

A broader question comes to mind on this issue for me; does my 1st world consumerism have a negative effect on the lives of people in the third world??

Yes I would say it does and theres something to feel guilty about there. I dont think were the fittest on earth though!

KeithAFC

WindSock wrote: »

Sure another strain of Rhino will pop up its place now to replace it.

Isn't that how ebolution works?

God will take care of it.

maxfresh

humans will be extinct if humans have there way

pragmatic1

Feisar wrote: »

Its sad but we live in a survival of the fittest world. As sentient beings we should rise above that but unfortunately we don't.

Now the question is are we all responsible or is it down to those directly involved to carry the blame?

A broader question comes to mind on this issue for me; does my 1st world consumerism have a negative effect on the lives of people in the third world??

No we dont. Not humans anyway. We stopped playing the survival of the fittest game a long time ago.

Duggy747

Many species of animals became extinct through the course of evolution and the changing land around them a long time before we as a species started screwing with them.

That being said, poachers are utter scum with no value to nature. A fierce stain on our history as a race which these bastards keep alive in modern times when we have the tools and understanding to prevent extinction from happening to any species.

But, hey, it could be worse. This species isn't totally extinct and at least there is one more group left in Indonesia, hopefully allowing conservationists to get the better resources they need to protect them.

steddyeddy

pragmatic1 wrote: »

No we dont. Not humans anyway. We stopped playing the survival of the fittest game a long time ago.

Well I would disagree with you there man were not the fittest or we would be winning a lot more battles with nature than we are at the moment.

pragmatic1

true-or-false wrote: »

We're a part of nature, but it's not just the destructive things we do that are part of our nature, we also have the ability to make decisions, look at the bigger picture, be informed of what's going on in our environment, and choose to try to conserve certain species. So when we conserve we're acting as a force of nature too. So "it's natural" isn't really an excuse for killing a huge animal for one small part of it's anatomy (not that I'm saying that's what you were saying).

I get what you're saying and I agree 100%. Never said it was an excuse, but you cant attach morality to nature. Ecosystems are constantly in flux. There is no perfect balance.

pragmatic1

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well I would disagree with you there man were not the fittest or we would be winning a lot more battles with nature than we are at the moment.

Only threat I can see is pathogens. As far as survival of the fittest between humans, that ended a very long time ago.

steddyeddy

pragmatic1 wrote: »

I get what you're saying and I agree 100%. Never said it was an excuse, but you cant attach morality to nature. Ecosystems are constantly in flux. There is no perfect balance.

The point is were knocking the ecosystem out of flux more than it can handle. If that keeps happening at a steady rate half of ireland would be underwater in 50 years.

pragmatic1

steddyeddy wrote: »

The point is were knocking the ecosystem out of flux more than it can handle. If that keeps happening at a steady rate half of ireland would be underwater in 50 years.

I know. We're completely fcuked. The next few decades arent going to be pretty.

steddyeddy

pragmatic1 wrote: »

I know. We're completely fcuked. The next few decades arent going to be pretty.

Not only that the fittest on the planet are currently winning. Viruses, bacteria, eukaryotic protists such as malaria.

pragmatic1

steddyeddy wrote: »

Not only that the fittest on the planet are currently winning. Viruses, bacteria, eukaryotic protists such as malaria.

Yeah but for how much longer. Where is smallpox and polio at these days.

steddyeddy

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Yeah but for how much longer. Where is smallpox and polio at these days.

A long way behind retro viruses.

Ellis Dee

WindSock wrote: »

Sure another strain of Rhino will pop up its place now to replace it.

Isn't that how ebolution works?

Sure, any day now. What's a few million years?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Optimalprimerib

TheUsual wrote: »

Domo230 wrote: »

I still havnt gotten over us losing the Dodo

The Dodo died because he was delicious. Much nicer than KFC chicken.

Anything that goes extinct must be really really tasty.

That's not actually true, the dodo had **** all meat on it and what was there was not tasty. The reason the dodo died was because settlers imported pigs for their meat, and dogs and cats as pets, which in turn hunted the dodo.

(according to tour guides in Mauritius)

WindSock

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Sure, any day now. What's a few million years?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I dunno, is it the amount of time it takes you to lighten the **** up?