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Landlord trouble

  • 03-11-2011 6:29pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭


    I moved into an apartment nearly 1 month ago when i moved in i found the washing machine and waterpump where not working she got them fixed but now i found the mattress and carpet in the bedroom smell really bad and want them changed she said she can not afford to do this. what can i do? Im due to pay rent tomorrow and i feel like not paying can i do that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭keithzer


    Or how would i go about getting deposit back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Roselm


    Have you signed a lease for a year or do you just pay per month?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭keithzer


    Roselm wrote: »
    Have you signed a lease for a year or do you just pay per month?
    I signed for a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    let me get this,, you moved into an apt one month ago, washing machine broke and landlord fixed this.thats grand. then you found that the mattress you slept in for a month and the carpet you walked on for a month was smelly?? are you for real? why would the LL buy you a new bed? by all means ,if you want ,you go and buy a bed but i think your pushing it asking the LL and threatening not to pay your rent .your in a contract mate .. what else wont be to your liking in 6 months time,new bins as the old ones are smelly.. you have a responsibility to maintain the place to a good standard, you aint living in a hotel.. pay your rent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭keithzer


    hawkelady wrote: »
    let me get this,, you moved into an apt one month ago, washing machine broke and landlord fixed this.thats grand. then you found that the mattress you slept in for a month and the carpet you walked on for a month was smelly?? are you for real? why would the LL buy you a new bed? by all means ,if you want ,you go and buy a bed but i think your pushing it asking the LL and threatening not to pay your rent .your in a contract mate .. what else wont be to your liking in 6 months time,new bins as the old ones are smelly.. you have a responsibility to maintain the place to a good standard, you aint living in a hotel.. pay your rent
    At the start i tought it was just the carpet it was really smelly like piss i asked could i lift the other day and she said ok but i still have a smell its off the bed. I dont want to move i just want to have a nice comfortable house


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    you still slept on it for a month,, sure you can get cheap new beds nowadays ..i believe the only way you will be happy living there is you put your own touch in it.... the LL has to repair broken washing machines etc, but they dont have to buy you stuff if you dont like it or it smells.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭keithzer


    hawkelady wrote: »
    you still slept on it for a month,, sure you can get cheap new beds nowadays ..i believe the only way you will be happy living there is you put your own touch in it.... the LL has to repair broken washing machines etc, but they dont have to buy you stuff if you dont like it or it smells.
    Thank you for the info ill look into getting a bed and carpet myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭davemc180


    keithzer wrote: »
    Thank you for the info ill look into getting a bed and carpet myself

    hawkelady sounds like a landlord...:rolleyes:

    tell the landlord your no happy with the condition of the room, tell the landlord the smell is still there even after they gave you permission to lift the carpet.. if they were agreeing with you about the smell and said they couldnt afford to replace it then they are admitting liability

    tell them youll get a new bed and whats needed but they can adjust the rent as its not down to you to replace furnishing unless you caused the damage

    you do have rights as a tenant


  • Administrators Posts: 54,417 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    hawkelady wrote: »
    you still slept on it for a month,, sure you can get cheap new beds nowadays ..i believe the only way you will be happy living there is you put your own touch in it.... the LL has to repair broken washing machines etc, but they dont have to buy you stuff if you dont like it or it smells.
    Er, if the landlord provides a bed and the property is advertised as furnished then it's not unreasonable to expect the furniture provided (that you are paying for in your rent) to be in a decent condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    awec wrote: »
    Er, if the landlord provides a bed and the property is advertised as furnished then it's not unreasonable to expect the furniture provided (that you are paying for in your rent) to be in a decent condition.
    That is why you go look at the place before renting. A lot comes down to opinion. It took him a month to notice there was a probalem suggests the problem isn't as bad as he now states it is.

    I would listen to the tenant and try and accomadate them but ultimate the LL doesn't have to. It works both ways as shown in another thread. If the LL doesn't catch something on inspection returns the deposit they aren't really able to do anything. If a tenant accepts the place after the inspection and then starts complaining about certain things it is pretty much tough luck. It isn't like the bed is faulty or he didn't see the carpet.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,417 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    That is why you go look at the place before renting. A lot comes down to opinion. It took him a month to notice there was a probalem suggests the problem isn't as bad as he now states it is.

    I would listen to the tenant and try and accomadate them but ultimate the LL doesn't have to. It works both ways as shown in another thread. If the LL doesn't catch something on inspection returns the deposit they aren't really able to do anything. If a tenant accepts the place after the inspection and then starts complaining about certain things it is pretty much tough luck. It isn't like the bed is faulty or he didn't see the carpet.
    Absolutely.

    It also sounds like he doesn't need a new bed but rather just a replacement mattress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    as far as I am aware the LL is supposed to change the matress for every new tennant. check out with the PRTB or Threshold. The LL should ensure that things are in good repair. If there was urine in the matress/carpet then this isnt good repair and you shouldnt have to replace these things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    as far as I am aware the LL is supposed to change the matress for every new tennant. check out with the PRTB or Threshold. The LL should ensure that things are in good repair. If there was urine in the matress/carpet then this isnt good repair and you shouldnt have to replace these things.

    LOL, a new mattress each time. No one could afford that.

    How does the LL the tenant didn't do this, if they didn't report it when they moved in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Hi OP!


    Are you entirely confident its the mattress ? or carpet? Do you have an ensuite? The smell of damp that can accrue here can lead to a damp 'pissy' like smell.

    I would go about giving the bathroom a good clean and insure to bleach all the drains both Sink and Shower. Had a flatmate with a similar issue from his ensuite before so ended up leaving the window open alot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭SligoLady


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    as far as I am aware the LL is supposed to change the matress for every new tennant.

    That's absurd! Do you expect a hotel to replace the mattress for every new guest too?

    You should get 10 years out of a decent mattress but in my experience, most mattresses in rental properties are cheap and cheerful and generally get 5 years use. If it is really smelly, worn and stained, I would ask for a new one but things like this always comes down to opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    SligoLady wrote: »
    That's absurd! Do you expect a hotel to replace the mattress for every new guest too?

    You should get 10 years out of a decent mattress but in my experience, most mattresses in rental properties are cheap and cheerful and generally get 5 years use. If it is really smelly, worn and stained, I would ask for a new one but things like this always comes down to opinion.

    I didnt say that I was sure of this, I said it was only as far as I know. Before you jump down somebodys throat again suggest you read their posts properly.

    Also a hotel shouldnt have stinking carpets or matresses; if they do they shouldnt be trading. In the OP's case If the matress & carpet are urine soaked then the LL would have to replace as they are not in good repair hence the reason I said to the OP to ctc the PRTB or Threshold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    BostonB wrote: »
    LOL, a new mattress each time. No one could afford that.

    How does the LL the tenant didn't do this, if they didn't report it when they moved in.

    As said I didnt say I was entirely sure so suggested to OP to ctc PRTB or Threshold to find out where he/she stands.

    If the matress/carpets are filthy and what not then yes they should be changed. I moved into a place 2.5 years ago (still there) but there was stuff I didnt notice till after I had moved in and scrubed the place. My LL was very understanding of these issues & made the repairs as we werent being unreasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    As said I didnt say I was entirely sure so suggested to OP to ctc PRTB or Threshold to find out where he/she stands.

    If the matress/carpets are filthy and what not then yes they should be changed. I moved into a place 2.5 years ago (still there) but there was stuff I didnt notice till after I had moved in and scrubed the place. My LL was very understanding of these issues & made the repairs as we werent being unreasonable.
    Well people jumped down your throat becasue you made a pretty silly statement. What did you base the concept on? It just sounds laughable.

    As stated a lot comes down to opinion and in this case even a sense of smell. I hate the smell of air freshners and they often smell like urine to me.

    The standard of being "clean" or "smelly" is a general subjective thing and pretty much to the discretion of the LL when it comes to the finer details. A rented place is by no means comparable to a hotel, vastly different standards should be applied. The smell descibed is by no means the same as saying items have been urine soaked. Smoking can casue a similar smell as is the most likely casue IMHO. Bare in mind the LL has probably spent less time in the property than the tenant has at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭SligoLady


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Well people jumped down your throat becasue you made a pretty silly statement. What did you base the concept on? It just sounds laughable.

    This is what I was going to say hence my hotel comment, it's a laughable concept.
    [QUOTE=Ray Palmer;75295689
    Smoking can casue a similar smell as is the most likely casue IMHO. [/QUOTE]

    I'd agree with this, I just removed a really old mattress from a family members home which absolutely stank in a wee like way but it wasn't wee, it was because the owner was a really heavy smoker and smoked in bed all the time. Because he was the smoker and slept on the mattress every night, he didn't notice the smell whereas the smell of the mattress made me gag. Again, it's down to each persons perception and opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Well people jumped down your throat becasue you made a pretty silly statement. What did you base the concept on? It just sounds laughable.

    As stated a lot comes down to opinion and in this case even a sense of smell. I hate the smell of air freshners and they often smell like urine to me.

    The standard of being "clean" or "smelly" is a general subjective thing and pretty much to the discretion of the LL when it comes to the finer details. A rented place is by no means comparable to a hotel, vastly different standards should be applied. The smell descibed is by no means the same as saying items have been urine soaked. Smoking can casue a similar smell as is the most likely casue IMHO. Bare in mind the LL has probably spent less time in the property than the tenant has at this point.

    Its actually not that laughable; my mother happens to be LL and does this each time a new tennant moves in; if nothing its hygenic & it also keeps the tennants happy; so jumping down my throat does nothing but make you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder about something;

    Its not really a matter of opinion if there is a smell of urine or the place is dirty in terms of matress/carpets then LL should have had the place cleaned & items replaced. The LL should have inspected before the tennant moved in and done a full & proper clean up unless the LL is doesnt have good hygiene standards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    SligoLady wrote: »
    This is what I was going to say hence my hotel comment, it's a laughable concept.


    I'd agree with this, I just removed a really old mattress from a family members home which absolutely stank in a wee like way but it wasn't wee, it was because the owner was a really heavy smoker and smoked in bed all the time. Because he was the smoker and slept on the mattress every night, he didn't notice the smell whereas the smell of the mattress made me gag. Again, it's down to each persons perception and opinion.

    Hotels are completely different they are not somewhere you intend to make your home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    Its actually not that laughable; my mother happens to be LL and does this each time a new tennant moves in; if nothing its hygenic & it also keeps the tennants happy; so jumping down my throat does nothing but make you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder about something;

    Its not really a matter of opinion if there is a smell of urine or the place is dirty in terms of matress/carpets then LL should have had the place cleaned & items replaced. The LL should have inspected before the tennant moved in and done a full & proper clean up unless the LL is doesnt have good hygiene standards.

    The OP didnt mention a smell or urine when they moved in, they are complaining after a month. So you cant speculate on the circumstances. to be fair.

    As i stated this could be a moisture related smell that can be rectified. Bearing in mind again that the tenant has been there a month already...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    listermint wrote: »
    The OP didnt mention a smell or urine when they moved in, they are complaining after a month. So you cant speculate on the circumstances. to be fair.

    As i stated this could be a moisture related smell that can be rectified. Bearing in mind again that the tenant has been there a month already...

    I am not saying its not what you have suggested; but as said I didnt notice certain things in my place until a while after I had moved in; the OP mentioned they thought it was the carpet but now suspect the bed; only way to tell is to have a really good sniff of both I guess and also check out your suggestion too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    As said I didnt say I was entirely sure so suggested to OP to ctc PRTB or Threshold to find out where he/she stands.

    If the matress/carpets are filthy and what not then yes they should be changed. I moved into a place 2.5 years ago (still there) but there was stuff I didnt notice till after I had moved in and scrubed the place. My LL was very understanding of these issues & made the repairs as we werent being unreasonable.


    I think theres a world of a difference between noticing something like this, a few hours or even a couple of days later. But a month! Even if you accept this as being reasonable. There is no way the LL can know the current tenant didn't cause it.

    Of courses theres no harm in asking the LL. Perhaps they are aware they weren't great and is planning to change them anyway.

    Also perhaps its something that missed by the LL on their inspection on the last tenant leaving. If they got immediate notice from a new tenant of problems they may still have the previous tenant deposit. Leaving it a month to report, means the LL is going to be unsuccessful trying to get money from the previous tenant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    BostonB wrote: »
    I think theres a world of a difference between noticing something like this, a few hours or even a couple of days later. But a month! Even if you accept this as being reasonable. There is no way the LL can know the current tenant didn't cause it.

    Of courses theres no harm in asking the LL. Perhaps they are aware they weren't great and is planning to change them anyway.

    Also perhaps its something that missed by the LL on their inspection on the last tenant leaving. If they got immediate notice from a new tenant of problems they may still have the previous tenant deposit. Leaving it a month to report, means the LL is going to be unsuccessful trying to get money from the previous tenant.

    I understand what you are saying yes its questionable on the OP's part and if there was a smell that bad it should have been raised with the LL sooner than a month after move in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    hawkelady wrote: »
    let me get this,, you moved into an apt one month ago, washing machine broke and landlord fixed this.thats grand. then you found that the mattress you slept in for a month and the carpet you walked on for a month was smelly?? are you for real? why would the LL buy you a new bed? by all means ,if you want ,you go and buy a bed but i think your pushing it asking the LL and threatening not to pay your rent .your in a contract mate .. what else wont be to your liking in 6 months time,new bins as the old ones are smelly.. you have a responsibility to maintain the place to a good standard, you aint living in a hotel.. pay your rent

    Pushing it because you want to sleep in a bed that doesnt smell? Its not like they were done a huge favour by getting the washing machine fixed. The landlord should not really be renting with smelly beds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Pushing it because you want to sleep in a bed that doesnt smell? Its not like they were done a huge favour by getting the washing machine fixed. The landlord should not really be renting with smelly beds.

    If it took a tenant a month of sleeping in the bed to notice, how is the LL meant to notice it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    jam, if you could read the op post properly before replying would be a start, the op slept in said bed for 30 nights before he/she has decided to raise this issue with LL, If he raised it with him when he viewed it, fair enough,he would have a case.. but one month after,come on.. and as fixing the washing machine and calling it a "favour".. The LL fixed it cause its the LL responibility to fix it but it aint the LL responibility to come running cause a tenant wants something new after 1 month or longer down the road.. When you view a place, you should really nail everything down with the LL asap. op,by all means ask the LL for a new mattress but he has the right to say no as you did sleep in it for a month before realising there is a smell in it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    Its actually not that laughable; my mother happens to be LL and does this each time a new tennant moves in; if nothing its hygenic & it also keeps the tennants happy; so jumping down my throat does nothing but make you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder about something;

    Its not really a matter of opinion if there is a smell of urine or the place is dirty in terms of matress/carpets then LL should have had the place cleaned & items replaced. The LL should have inspected before the tennant moved in and done a full & proper clean up unless the LL is doesnt have good hygiene standards.
    Yeah still laughable the concept a matress should be replace once a year as is common for tenancies. Your mother is adding massive extra expense to her renting and also adding to pollution.

    I didn't jump down your throat but your opinion is subjective. Considering it took the tenant a month to notice how do you reckon the LL is going to spot it? It is your opinion that smell is not a matter of opinion which proves it is:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭alibaba12


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Yeah still laughable the concept a matress should be replace once a year as is common for tenancies. Your mother is adding massive extra expense to her renting and also adding to pollution.

    I didn't jump down your throat but your opinion is subjective. Considering it took the tenant a month to notice how do you reckon the LL is going to spot it? It is your opinion that smell is not a matter of opinion which proves it is:D

    Did I say once a year; oh no I didnt; I said everytime there is new tennant! which is every 2 or 3 years and its not massive expense.

    Your last part makes no sense. I said that the LL would have been able to smell it if they did a proper clean also the tennant should have smelled it if it was that bad; personally I wouldnt have been able to sleep in place that had a "pissy" smell especially if it was off the bed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerri Jordan


    Hi OP . I am a landlady , I have 4 rooms rented out. If my tenant came to me with your complaint I would replace the mattress . You should not be sleeping on a smelly mattress. Also i did have one tenant ask me for carpet. all my rooms have hard wood flooring in very good condition but this tenant just had a preference for carpet. So i paid for half of it. He was delighted. He was a good tenant and I would always try and accomade decent tenants. I have the house painted inside and out once a year also. Some landlords are just out to make money. Talk to your landlord and ask will she pay for half the carpet and bed.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,417 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Hi OP . I am a landlady , I have 4 rooms rented out. If my tenant came to me with your complaint I would replace the mattress . You should not be sleeping on a smelly mattress. Also i did have one tenant ask me for carpet. all my rooms have hard wood flooring in very good condition but this tenant just had a preference for carpet. So i paid for half of it. He was delighted. He was a good tenant and I would always try and accomade decent tenants. I have the house painted inside and out once a year also. Some landlords are just out to make money. Talk to your landlord and ask will she pay for half the carpet and bed.
    Imagine that....

    They have to make money to live.

    But, if you can afford to repaint every year and still make a profit then fair play to you, you sound like a great landlord to have. The better the house looks and the tidier it is is a benefit to you, as is not having to seek new tenants as often (as someone is more likely to stay put if they have a great landlord).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    Did I say once a year; oh no I didnt; I said everytime there is new tennant! which is every 2 or 3 years and its not massive expense.

    Your last part makes no sense. I said that the LL would have been able to smell it if they did a proper clean also the tennant should have smelled it if it was that bad; personally I wouldnt have been able to sleep in place that had a "pissy" smell especially if it was off the bed.

    You missing the point. if the mattresses has been damage the previous tenant should pay for it. If its not been changed then with normal use, even in a rented house it should last more than 2yrs.

    The 2nd part is the it took the tenant a month to notice it. How can a LL notice it in a few hours? Thats not logical. You'd think it would have been taken out of the deposit from the previous tenant if they'd noticed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    ...Some landlords are just out to make money. ...


    That makes no sense.

    Unless you rent for free, all landlords are out to make money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭GaelMonfils


    sorry but not all landlords are "out to make money" - You say this like the protestant landowners are back and stealing our potatoes! Im a landlord, i have one house in galway. I work in mayo so moved here 2 years ago. The house i rent brings in 800 quid a month, my mortgage is 950. Plus managment charges of 1200 per year. Not making money there!

    If op wants a fresh smelling mattress, go buy one youself. They cost feck all and you can take it with you when you leave.

    If op wants a fresh smelling carpet, go hire someone to clean it. It costs 50 quid or less and benefits them.


    ffs, everyone wants to slate landlords assuming they are big fat greedy greasy mother f**kers (akin to politicians or bankers!) who are trying to rip of little old ladies or single, hard-up mothers.

    Op - Just sort it out yourself and quit moaning. More of that in this country and it would be a much better place.

    Ps - Never rent your house out to city/county councils - They say they have a months rent as deposit on hold ('incase' anything goes wrong) however, have no intention of ever ever paying out a cent of it. Even if the wooden front door has being kicked in by a drunk tenant who forgot their keys (1000 quid) or 3 out of the 4 mattress weigh 10 kg extra because the kids pissssed all over them!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerri Jordan


    Not all landlords are out to make huge profits. I would put human dignity ahead of a profit. a smelly mattress is sub standard in this day and age.
    I maintain my property because some day i will live in it myself and because i believe if i maintain it that the tenants will also treat it with respect which they do. And im not renting for free , I make a healthy profit each month on my property. and even if i made a loss i would not have a tenant sleeping in smelly conditions ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    Did I say once a year; oh no I didnt; I said everytime there is new tennant! which is every 2 or 3 years and its not massive expense.

    Your last part makes no sense. I said that the LL would have been able to smell it if they did a proper clean also the tennant should have smelled it if it was that bad; personally I wouldnt have been able to sleep in place that had a "pissy" smell especially if it was off the bed.
    No you didn't say once a year but I pointed out many tenancies only last a year so that would be the ramification. A mattress certainly should last longer thean 3 years too. This is why your suggestion is so laughable and absent of real world considerations. I don't really beleive your LL mother story either. Do you replace your own mattress that often?
    I have the house painted inside and out once a year also.

    That is really strange thing to do. No house should need that much painting. I'd get in touch with the manufacturers if the paint doesn't last at least two years. It sounds like you rent rooms as opposed to property which is slightly different anyway.

    THe main point is the teanant didn't notice the problem for a month and the LL might decide not to repalce them which is their right. Yes they should bring it to their attention. They did and the LL said they can't afford to do it. So tough luck the opportunity was during initial inspection or shortly after moving in. A month makes a big ifference on how noticable and how severe the problem is. Who the casue is comes into question too. Does anybody actually thing somebody peed on everything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerri Jordan


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    No you didn't say once a year but I pointed out many tenancies only last a year so that would be the ramification. A mattress certainly should last longer thean 3 years too. This is why your suggestion is so laughable and absent of real world considerations. I don't really beleive your LL mother story either. Do you replace your own mattress that often?



    That is really strange thing to do. No house should need that much painting. I'd get in touch with the manufacturers if the paint doesn't last at least two years. It sounds like you rent rooms as opposed to property which is slightly different anyway.

    THe main point is the teanant didn't notice the problem for a month and the LL might decide not to repalce them which is their right. Yes they should bring it to their attention. They did and the LL said they can't afford to do it. So tough luck the opportunity was during initial inspection or shortly after moving in. A month makes a big ifference on how noticable and how severe the problem is. Who the casue is comes into question too. Does anybody actually thing somebody peed on everything?

    I rent out four rooms and generally paint can and does look shoddy after a year. i like to freshen the place up. and i paint outside and my neighbours ajoining house just to keep the place looking immaculate. we go halfs on the outside. we would be similar in painting outside walls and garden fences too and our sheds. just like the place to be tip top. in fairness we could get away with not painting outside but its something we take pride in getting done. just like getting chimneys and windows cleaned regularly too. something many landlords just dont bother doing because they dont care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    hawkelady wrote: »
    let me get this,, you moved into an apt one month ago, washing machine broke and landlord fixed this.thats grand. then you found that the mattress you slept in for a month and the carpet you walked on for a month was smelly?? are you for real? why would the LL buy you a new bed? by all means ,if you want ,you go and buy a bed but i think your pushing it asking the LL and threatening not to pay your rent .your in a contract mate .. what else wont be to your liking in 6 months time,new bins as the old ones are smelly.. you have a responsibility to maintain the place to a good standard, you aint living in a hotel.. pay your rent
    would ya not have checked these things out before you signed the contract.i know your lookin for advice here but its really your fault for not lookin into this fully


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerri Jordan


    ap1986 wrote: »
    would ya not have checked these things out before you signed the contract.i know your lookin for advice here but its really your fault for not lookin into this fully
    I disagree people generally do not get down and smell a carpet or inspect a mattress either when walking around with a letting agent or landlord with a view to renting. The landlord just didnt care that the room was not to a decent standard.
    I rented a place once and when i moved in i flipped the mattress only to discover it was soaking on the underside. That was not my fault. The room had been freshly painted but clearly it had damp judging by the wet mattress. After one month the damp problem became even more obvious when the walls turned black. The landlady told me after i confronted her, that she had lived their herself and just dealt with the problem by washing the walls! she let me sign a lease for a substandard property she had tarted up with paint. and i had a baby of 1 year old at the time. Aside from insulating the walls (which she would not do) this property would always be damp. and believe me opening windows and running heating non stop didnt help (i did both).
    I think its disgusting that their are landlords out there who just do not care about the conditions they rent their properties out in. It should be illegal .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    something many landlords just dont bother doing because they dont care.
    Because it is it nessary would be the main reason.:rolleyes:
    I wouldn't do that on my own home, mind you the wall doesn't need to be painted becasue of the finish. Renting rooms out in your home doesn't make you what most people would class as a land lord as far as I am concerned. There would be a big difference on how you have to operate.

    Nobody repaints their house inside and out where I live and if they did I would think it strange. Certainly wouldn't expect a LL to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerri Jordan


    Ray plamer i dont live in the house so of course im a landlord. i live 4 hours away in a different county


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Ray plamer i dont live in the house so of course im a landlord. i live 4 hours away in a different county
    Thanks for the clarification still excessive painting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerri Jordan


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Thanks for the clarification still excessive painting.
    I take your point.However I like to have the house painted. cant see it being a crime. I have the money to maintain it to a very high standard so I can do as I please.
    But can you explain to me why I am not a landlord?


  • Administrators Posts: 54,417 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    In terms of the fence, there is no way a fence should need repainted on a yearly basis if it is done right. You should get 3 or 4 years out of a coat at least.

    The shed too.

    I can understand the inside in the case of people touching the walls, rubbing against them, spilling things up them or scoring them with furniture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Jerri Jordan


    awec wrote: »
    In terms of the fence, there is no way a fence should need repainted on a yearly basis if it is done right. You should get 3 or 4 years out of a coat at least.

    The shed too.

    I can understand the inside in the case of people touching the walls, rubbing against them, spilling things up them or scoring them with furniture.
    Well i treat my shed, my decking and fences yearly to keep them looking brand new and in tip top condition. many of the neighbours do too. Maybe we are just more house proud than the norm.
    Anyway back on thread the OP is within his rights to aks the landlord to replace the smelly mattress and come to an agreement on the carpet. If the landlord is decent she will replace or meet you half way. If she is unwilling then put it down to experience OP, and leave as soon as the lease is up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    alibaba12 wrote: »
    Its actually not that laughable; my mother happens to be LL and does this each time a new tennant moves in.
    Tell your mother I've got a great business tip that will save her a fortune. All I ask is a 10% cut of what she will save. That's 90% free money!! She can't turn that down...



    ...unless of course she isn't actually a LL who buys new mattresses each time a new tenant moves in, which I suspect is far more accurate.

    @OP: give the place a good clean. Open all the windows for a day. Air the place out good and proper. Cut an onion in half and place it where the smell is the worst. This will absorb a lot of the smell. Spray the mattress with fabreeze. Go bananas with the fabreeze.
    If all that fails, rent a dehumidifier.
    If that fails, pop over to IKEA and pick up a mattress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    I take your point.However I like to have the house painted. cant see it being a crime. I have the money to maintain it to a very high standard so I can do as I please.
    But can you explain to me why I am not a landlord?
    Sorry I thought you gathered your clariffication nullified what I said which I acknowledged.

    There is a high standard and their is an excessive standard. That much painiting is excessive. Never said it was a crime. No point to it. I repaint parts of the house more regularly but every year for the entire house is overboard. You should be using paint that should be washable if it needs to be painted every year.

    Side point anyway. Mattresses should last at least 5 years without a bother. That tends to be when I replace them but longer if it is the same tenant. I have tenants for over 15,8,6,2 years over a number of properties which must mean I am doing something right. I replace things without request and with request. I don't expect other LL to adhere to what I do and a lot is to do with the standard you want and price. I would never rent out rooms individually but some people like to do that. Not worth the hassle if you ask me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    ... The landlord just didnt care that the room was not to a decent standard...

    How can you say that, if they didn't know.

    The previous tenant report didn't report it it wasn't noticed on handover and the new tenant didn't notice for month.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    When I lived away in germany as a tenant you had to strip the appartment back to the way you got it (unfurnished, bare walls) and everything newly painted, in white, before handing it back.

    Which encourages tenants to look after a place. Doing it the other way around theres no incentive to look after a place, or anything in it. Which is why walls, mattresses and furniture have abnormally short life in Irish accommodation.


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