Is their a waterproof jacket out there?

welsummer

I was out for a evening shot for deer yesterday evening and got soaked through. it was a rought wet evening and was pegging it down for the time i stepped out into the elements.I was scouting around for about an hour and then sitting in at the back of a wall for about another hour. I had so called water proof jacket on me, but after a shot time i could feel it start to let in, and had to leave my position early as the damp started to set into my bones. I have spent a fortune on jackets over they years , and i am coming to the conclusion that you cant beat the good old oil skins.
Anybody know of jacket that suits our wet conditions.

Mountainy Jack

welsummer wrote: »

I was out for a evening shot for deer yesterday evening and got soaked through. it was a rought wet evening and was pegging it down for the time i stepped out into the elements.I was scouting around for about an hour and then sitting in at the back of a wall for about another hour. I had so called water proof jacket on me, but after a shot time i could feel it start to let in, and had to leave my position early as the damp started to set into my bones. I have spent a fortune on jackets over they years , and i am coming to the conclusion that you cant beat the good old oil skins.
Anybody know of jacket that suits our wet conditions.

Swazi tahr or swazi wapiti. They ain't cheap but they are the best going for dealing with heavy rain.

Vegeta

I don't believe advertising any more. Half the stuff that claims to be waterproof just isn't.

Any decent outdoor wear company will get you one though, bought a Northface rain jacket recently myself. Fully waterproof, breathable jacket with taped seams, whole 9 yards. Problem is it is not silent so not ideally suited to any type of stalking (knew that buying it) but I have tested it and it is waterproof.

I have a big parka for duck shooting and while it's very functional, quiet, comfy and warm, it is not 100% waterproof despite the claims on the website :mad: Spend a lengthy time in the rain (2 hours ish) and I will get wet.

Thing is, as hunters we want it all. 100% waterproof, silent, breathable, nice plain green, brown or khaki, maybe we want it warm too. Very hard to tick all the boxes especially when advertisers make false claims

fodda

Waxed Jacket?

widgeon78

hi welsummer i bought a jacket from cabelas in america its realtree and it has dry plus membrene i have to say its the best jacket i have ever bought fully waterproof i useit for duck shooting

deeksofdoom

fodda wrote: »

Waxed Jacket?

They're far from waterproof, the worst of the lot!

Hibrion

Cabelas have a 70% off sale on hunting clothes at the moment. Even factoring in the duty you could get a great deal there.

Tackleberry.

McCloys up north have a lot of goretex camo shell gear, buy it over size and pull it over your hunting gear in the bad wather.

CJhaughey

I think a lot of the problem is actually people wearing the wrong underwear under waterproofs.
You need to be wearing polypropylene underwear or similar type layers that allow the sweat to wick away and through the jacket.
Wearing a cotton t-shirt is a disaster as they just absorb moisture vapour and once it condenses on the outside you end up as wet as if you didn't wear a waterproof outer layer.
I have seen plenty of perfectly good outer gear sold because it *leaks* when it is really the underlayers that are the problem.
Try wearing smartwool/icebreaker/polypro etc and see how much of a difference it makes.
Of course if the seams are leaking then of course you will get wet.

chrisdolan11

try rivers west gear it comes with a 10 year waterproof guarantee. dont know anyone else that gives that kind of guarantee. google it, websites in uk stock it now its american gear.

Remmie 223

http://www.pittman.ie/snickers-1778-aps-allweather-parka/p-739581pd.html
I work outside & have tried most water proof gear over the years. The snickers wet gear can not be bet in my opinion. You don't sweat & it keeps you dry

Chesapeake

always wear a barbour, either 3/4 (Border) or full length (Stockman) and only get wet when I end end waist high in a drain........which is pretty often !!

Chesapeake

or grab a cheap wetsuit form lidl or aldi the next time they have them.

td5

Check out Kammo clothing site. Not the cheapest but silent waterproof and the rest. Bought my 1st one 18 years and it is still going.

kildare.17hmr

iv British army gortex jacket and trousers, iv worn them in the worst weather goin up the mountains and never got wet. Only thing its not so quiet for stalking.

Deerspotter

Jack Wolfskin, Fjal Raven & Deerhunter have never let me down

DJandDeid

I have some armoured textile motorbike gear. Cheaper than most wet weather gear, totally waterproof and tough. Doesn't usually come in cammo tho:D

ianoo

td5 wrote: »

Check out Kammo clothing site. Not the cheapest but silent waterproof and the rest. Bought my 1st one 18 years and it is still going.

+1 to kammo gear ,15 years old and still going strong

ian

Birdnuts

The Toread rain jacket I got during a recent business trip has proven to be outstanding during the recent monsoon events in this part of the country. Its a new Chinese brand but don't let that put you off - its done the business better then anything I've had up to now. Very breatheable and light too, so no coming home drenched in sweat either:)

minktrapper

Bought a Browning Proseries off that guy in Mullingar.Wore it in cold wet sleety weather found it brillant.Didn't wear it for long wet perods though.Double row of stiches on joints.Removable liner as well.

J.R.

Deerspotter wrote: »

Deerhunter have never let me down

Same here

Browning2010

chrisdolan11 wrote: »

try rivers west gear it comes with a 10 year waterproof guarantee. dont know anyone else that gives that kind of guarantee. google it, websites in uk stock it now its american gear.

+1...

Rivers West are the real deal, I got the ranger jacket and trousers at a game fair in England last year and I havent been disappointed. I'd reccomend them to anyone.

howa .223

Remmie 223 wrote: »

http://www.pittman.ie/snickers-1778-aps-allweather-parka/p-739581pd.html
I work outside & have tried most water proof gear over the years. The snickers wet gear can not be bet in my opinion. You don't sweat & it keeps you dry

best gear out great for our weather. snickers and mascot also lyngsoe
couldn recommend enough

4200fps

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

iv British army gortex jacket and trousers, iv worn them in the worst weather goin up the mountains and never got wet. Only thing its not so quiet for stalking.

Theres nothing better than Gortex.Used by the military too

FISMA

welsummer wrote: »

Anybody know of jacket that suits our wet conditions.

Lad,
Make sure you watch what they say: water resistant, water repellant, or water proof.

The problem is that the less water that gets in, the less gets out. Thus, although you keep the water out, you're sweating, which is not getting out.

I like my camo poncho slick when the elements really kick up.

djflawless

if you can get your hands on an irish army coat. .i find them waterproof thru and thru anyways

declan1980

I find the deerhunter stuff very good, I've been out in pissing rain, and carried a deer on my back while wearing a deerhunter jacket, and not one bit of water or blood came through. The only moisture on me was my own sweat

Tackleberrywho

declan1980 wrote: »

I find the deerhunter stuff very good, I've been out in pissing rain, and carried a deer on my back while wearing a deerhunter jacket, and not one bit of water or blood came through. The only moisture on me was my own sweat

I can verify that

decoyer

Ive tried Deerhunter Montana ,and Rivers west both not cheap and both let in now got a brand new Kammo Kodiak so will get that on now when heading out and see how that goes
The fabric make up of the Kodiak seems far superior to the others both Deerhunter and Rivers west are Chinese made (thats a fact ) and some Rivers West is now made in Bangladesh that says it all companies getting cheap goods and ripping us all off BIG time
All my Stalking/hunting is in the open hill West of Scotland

declan1980

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I can verify that

I totally forgot about that pic. Rosie was fair well behaved. She was in the back of the jeep for an hour and never took a bite out of that deer.

Local-womanizer

djflawless wrote: »

if you can get your hands on an irish army coat. .i find them waterproof thru and thru anyways

Are you chatting about the waterproof jackets? If so they are great for keeping the rain out but the sweat in, we call them sweat suits! I have taken them off after a day of wearing them and have been absolutely drenched from sweat

The actual smock is not waterproof but shower proof. Dries out very quickly if you are moving about though. Suppose it's about finding a happy medium.

4200fps

Gore-Tex is the worlds top waterproof material and ''NO other manufacture can beat it''.Its the lightest,very tough,silent,comfortable,100% breathable,100% waterproof,there's loads of different camo patterns etc real tree,duck blind camo the lot.Offers more comfort and better thermal control (less overheating and freezing). G-Tex will stretch, move with you and aren't stiff.If you buy Gore-Tex you have the BEST but if you buy copycat brands they are good but people complain about the seams leaking.It might cost abit but pays off in the long run....Anybody no better than Gore-Tex? dont think so :P

Tackleberrywho

4200fps wrote: »

Gore-Tex is the worlds top waterproof material and ''NO other manufacture can beat it''.Its the lightest,very tough,silent,comfortable,100% breathable,100% waterproof,there's loads of different camo patterns etc real tree,duck blind camo the lot.Offers more comfort and better thermal control (less overheating and freezing). G-Tex will stretch, move with you and aren't stiff.If you buy Gore-Tex you have the BEST but if you buy copycat brands they are good but people complain about the seams leaking.It might cost abit but pays off in the long run....Anybody no better than Gore-Tex? dont think so :P

I've Deerhunter jacket with Deer tex, been out inall weathers and very impressed with it, very stylish jacket too ;-)

4200fps

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I've Deerhunter jacket with Deer tex, been out inall weathers and very impressed with it, very stylish jacket too ;-)

My buddy has a Shimano Air-Tex jacket and he's happy out too.There is brands with very similar membrains. I wouldn't run down other brands as there is good competition but Gore-Tex is unbeatable

BryanL

4200fps wrote: »

My buddy has a Shimano Air-Tex jacket and he's happy out too.There is brands with very similar membrains. I wouldn't run down other brands as there is good competition but Gore-Tex is unbeatable

eVent and Dry Q are both as waterproof and Gore-Tex but much more breathable

ejg

Since begining of September I'm out once a week, every outing so far it has rained. I'm sick of jackets that just soak up the water and weigh a ton. Mostly use a rain poncho now. Cheap and light, between the showers I roll it up and stick it into the pocket of my fleece.
edi

4200fps

BryanL wrote: »

eVent and Dry Q are both as waterproof and Gore-Tex but much more breathable

Well why's Gore-tex worlds top when it comes to waterproof and breathable material?Theres 3 different grades that gore-tex make.Google it and it says there's no better.Its why it expensive

stevie_b

Gore-tex would certainly be the most well known material, but that doesn't mean it is miles better than the rest - it has the best marketing.

Other materials may be lighter in weight and may breath better than Gore-tex, whereas Gore-tex may be more durable. I would advise not to buy an insulated waterproof jacket. The ideal jacket is lightweight, strong and breaths well. Insulation can be added underneath as needed.

I have some Patagonia gear made with H2No coating and i would choose it over Gore-tex. I can stand out in the rain for hours and all it takes is a quick shake and the jacket is practically dry again.

4200fps

stevie_b wrote: »

Gore-tex would certainly be the most well known material, but that doesn't mean it is miles better than the rest - it has the best marketing.

Other materials may be lighter in weight and may breath better than Gore-tex, whereas Gore-tex may be more durable. I would advise not to buy an insulated waterproof jacket. The ideal jacket is lightweight, strong and breaths well. Insulation can be added underneath as needed.

I have some Patagonia gear made with H2No coating and i would choose it over Gore-tex. I can stand out in the rain for hours and all it takes is a quick shake and the jacket is practically dry again.

You wont need to shake a Gore tex jacket Its the most water proof clothing material known to man thats why everyone knows the name.Also your wrong when you said its not the lightest membrain as its famous for being so light.You were right about not to buy an insulated waterproof jacket. The ideal jacket is lightweight, strong and breaths well. Insulation can be added underneath as needed..Thats correct

4200fps

stevie_b wrote: »

Gore-tex would certainly be the most well known material, but that doesn't mean it is miles better than the rest - it has the best marketing.

Other materials may be lighter in weight and may breath better than Gore-tex, whereas Gore-tex may be more durable. I would advise not to buy an insulated waterproof jacket. The ideal jacket is lightweight, strong and breaths well. Insulation can be added underneath as needed.

I have some Patagonia gear made with H2No coating and i would choose it over Gore-tex. I can stand out in the rain for hours and all it takes is a quick shake and the jacket is practically dry again.

Yes theres really good brands out there.Its the outer coating I'm referring to.

Tackleberrywho

I have Goretex, deertec and some other imitation I bought in Paul Byron.

Goretex good, Deerte good, Paul Byron boots (someting tex) are foot rotters


Goretex is a trade name. Nothing else, patents expire

demonloop

Gore-tex have five different membrane fabrics now.

I've a two layer 'Performance-Shell' jacket and a pair of three layer 'Pro-Shell' trousers on the way.

Though I did look at other fabrics (and I'm sure they're OK) I know Gore-tex works. That might be marketing, time in the marketplace etc etc but the last thing I want is a wet arse.

howa .223

im sure no matter the costs gortex comes in different grades of warerproof and breathability and if your not getting the top grades other products will match or even better it
they say 3 is the best u can expect too acheive on any gear its somethin too do with rain exposure and how many hours exposed and constant use without getting dry etc.
so say iv a gortex jacket im out ten hours in the rain and i do the same 3 days in a row its about too let in wet no?
open too correction.

demonloop

howa .223 wrote: »

im sure no matter the costs gortex comes in different grades of warerproof and breathability and if your not getting the top grades other products will match or even better it
they say 3 is the best u can expect too acheive on any gear its somethin too do with rain exposure and how many hours exposed and constant use without getting dry etc.
so say iv a gortex jacket im out ten hours in the rain and i do the same 3 days in a row its about too let in wet no?
open too correction.

No, I think its simpler than that. Its waterproof. Rain should never get it.

This from the Gore-tex site...

All GORE-TEX® garments and footwear carry our GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY® promise.

What does this mean? It means that liquid from the outside won't get to you on the inside. This includes moisture from the wet grass you’re kneeling in to the sudden squall you get caught in. And that's a promise.

howa .223

demonloop wrote: »

No, I think its simpler than that. Its waterproof. Rain should never get it.

This from the Gore-tex site...

All GORE-TEX® garments and footwear carry our GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY® promise.

What does this mean? It means that liquid from the outside won't get to you on the inside. This includes moisture from the wet grass you’re kneeling in to the sudden squall you get caught in. And that's a promise.

so no matter how long im out in the rain it 100% keeps me dry?
and if so for what lenght off time can you be out in the rain?
im sure its has got too be right temperture wind speed and mm of rain and recommended maximum continuos wear because im sure the gaurantee isnt valid if you exceed there recommendatios again open too correction:)

landkeeper

gore-tex works. i have boots with a layer in i have never got wet feet in them despite days on ends use in atrocious weather and i have them for nearly 10 years now
i have a simple gore-tex jacket again it has not yet let water in and it breathes so i stay dry in it
it took me along time to stop using wax jackets as that is what i grew up with but genuine gore-tex is the way forward in my opinion

demonloop

They don't tie any conditions to their guarantee, but the outer layer covering the membrane will need re-proofed after a while - thats the water repellancy layer I've read.

That layer can get saturated with water, but it shouldn't pass through to the inside. The only possible way I can think of that you can get wet inside is when the outer layers coating has worn off, it gets saturated and this might stop the breathability of the membrane, thus getting you wet from sweat. I'd say that would be at the extremes of things though.

I'll be glad to report back at the start of February when I put my jacket/trousers to the test

Should it be s-h-i-t-e, I'll gladly say so, and try their guarntee out too! I'm a fair bit out of pocket and I stated earlier, I won't be impressed with a wet arse

howa .223

demonloop wrote: »

They don't tie any conditions to their guarantee, but the outer layer covering the membrane will need re-proofed after a while - thats the water repellancy layer I've read.

That layer can get saturated with water, but it shouldn't pass through to the inside. The only possible way I can think of that you can get wet inside is when the outer layers coating has worn off, it gets saturated and this might stop the breathability of the membrane, thus getting you wet from sweat. I'd say that would be at the extremes of things though.

I'll be glad to report back at the start of February when I put my jacket/trousers to the test

Should it be s-h-i-t-e, I'll gladly say so, and try their guarntee out too! I'm a fair bit out of pocket and I stated earlier, I won't be impressed with a wet arse

yup thats what happened my lyngsoe suit but too be fair did have it 2 years and constant use rarely got proper chance too dry with the weather we get have got snickers wet gear too replace it and iv ben told its supposed too have better first layer than gortex it hasnt been proper tested yet just the two weeks before the hols roofing and is holding out well for now. and could have got gortex if i wanted but was recommended snickers for tougher wear but ill be sure too let ye know how it holds up too our lovely weather over next few months:) and as me auld lad would say its bad skin that will let water in:o

demonloop

howa .223 wrote: »

yup thats what happened my lyngsoe suit but too be fair did have it 2 years and constant use rarely got proper chance too dry with the weather we get have got snickers wet gear too replace it and iv ben told its supposed too have better first layer than gortex it hasnt been proper tested yet just the two weeks before the hols roofing and is holding out well for now. and could have got gortex if i wanted but was recommended snickers for tougher wear but ill be sure too let ye know how it holds up too our lovely weather over next few months:) and as me auld lad would say its bad skin that will let water in:o

I read that the way you typed it. I have a sore head now

Comma man, comma!

howa .223

,,,,,,,,, that make up for it:D sorry for that.

SpringerF

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