Herman Cain

Thargor

Seriously how is this guy still a contender? Its like a bad joke, its nearly as ridiculous as Sarah Palin. Id love to see him chosen just for the laughs in a fight with Obama, it would be epic.

I cant believe how the sh1t just washes off him, do you think people are being politically correct in not taking the piss out of him? Worried about offending certain demographics I mean?

This is too funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9deLGjrf-A

Overheal

Nobody is a contender. It was always going to be Romney. But they have to hold the caucuses and drum up a bunch of money and support. That's how the game is played. Hell there was a big fit here a couple weeks ago when Florida tried to schedule it's caucus ahead of SC. SC was like 'hellllll nah' because we're first, and the first gets all the election-related 'stimulus' from a bunch of big whigs rolling into town and trying to make abortion and gay stem cells a national issue again.

Carcharodon

Thargor wrote: »

Seriously how is this guy still a contender? Its like a bad joke, its nearly as ridiculous as Sarah Palin. Id love to see him chosen just for the laughs in a fight with Obama, it would be epic.

I cant believe how the sh1t just washes off him, do you think people are being politically correct in not taking the piss out of him? Worried about offending certain demographics I mean?

This is too funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9deLGjrf-A

I think there is a bit of political correctness going around but as Overheal said, this guy was never going to be a serious contender. He got a bit of momentum going and made the most of it. I think he will fade away pretty soon, the ridiculousness of the man is just unreal and what kind of campaign staff let him release that ad........ I mean seriously I am in the wrong line of work.

FreudianSlippers

I just can't believe he doesn't know who the president of Ubeki-beki-beiki-beki-stan-stan is!

Thargor

He got a laugh out of that even though you would expect a world leader to know most of those names but not knowing China has the atomic bomb?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/11/cain-campaign

Amerika

Funny how we continually hear complaints that we should have more non-career politicians running... that is until a viable non-career politician actually does run. Or is the real problem because he, or anybody for that fact, is running on the (R) ticket? I mean look at the current situation... we put someone totally incompetent regarding the difficult economic/political/world environment, as president in the last election. Could he really be any worse? But I do agree, Romney will be the (R) choice. Not happy about Mitt not being a conservative, but I feel he is the best our country could get right now as someone capable of bringing together the massive divide we are witnessing between our political parties.

20Cent

Its a huge money maker, claim to be running for president raise loads in funds, increased profile and sell some books. Newt Gingritch has been doing it for years.

Ps what the feck is this Hermain Cain ad about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSlC7BxmSqY

RichieC

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html

During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.

The women complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Cain that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them financial payouts to leave the association. The agreements also included language that bars the women from talking about their departures.

Nice knowing you hermie!

Amerika

RichieC wrote: »

Nice knowing you hermie!

I don't know... didn't seem to hurt Bill Clinton all that much. Then again, Bill didn't have an (R) behind his name, so the media will most probably continue their witch hunt against Cain (I guess they have a lot of penned up energy saved from ignoring John Edwards sexual digressions during his presidential run).

RichieC

Amerika wrote: »

I don't know... didn't seem to hurt Bill Clinton all that much. Then again, Bill didn't have an (R) behind his name, so the media will most probably continue their witch hunt against Cain (I guess they have a lot of penned up energy saved from ignoring John Edwards sexual digressions during his presidential run).

Are you kidding me? the us spent more money investigating the blowjob than they did 9/11... the media was a frenzy...

John edwards almost immediately dropped out of the race.

I really do think you right wingers are living in some alternate reality..

Overheal

Amerika wrote: »

I don't know... didn't seem to hurt Bill Clinton all that much. Then again, Bill didn't have an (R) behind his name, so the media will most probably continue their witch hunt against Cain (I guess they have a lot of penned up energy saved from ignoring John Edwards sexual digressions during his presidential run).

In all fairness the Republican voter base is far more concerned with socially conservative values than the Democratic base. Cain is far more likely to alienate that voter base than Edwards was to his own base. And then again, John Edwards is not the President, either..

tim_holsters

Amerika wrote: »

Funny how we continually hear complaints that we should have more non-career politicians running... that is until a viable non-career politician actually does run. Or is the real problem because he, or anybody for that fact, is running on the (R) ticket? I mean look at the current situation... we put someone totally incompetent regarding the difficult economic/political/world environment, as president in the last election. Could he really be any worse? But I do agree, Romney will be the (R) choice. Not happy about Mitt not being a conservative, but I feel he is the best our country could get right now as someone capable of bringing together the massive divide we are witnessing between our political parties.

How is Obama totally imcompetent? You really are the living end.

Amerika

RichieC wrote: »

Are you kidding me? the us spent more money investigating the blowjob than they did 9/11... the media was a frenzy...

John edwards almost immediately dropped out of the race.

I really do think you right wingers are living in some alternate reality..

The National Enquirer is the entire US media? The mainstream media ignored the Edwards story until they could ignore it no more.

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

In all fairness the Republican voter base is far more concerned with socially conservative values than the Democratic base. Cain is far more likely to alienate that voter base than Edwards was to his own base. And then again, John Edwards is not the President, either..

True, but I was addressing the hypocrisy of the media in my post, not the social values of republicans.

Overheal

tim_holsters wrote: »

How is Obama totally imcompetent? You really are the living end.

Hey now: I'm as delighted as anyone to get Amerika back into an argument he can't win about the POTUS :pac: however, you took that out of context:

"totally incompetent regarding the difficult economic/political/world environment"

Which is far more debatable as a topic than a blanket "Total incompetence", which was not said.

Amerika

tim_holsters wrote: »

How is Obama totally imcompetent? You really are the living end.

I posted "totally incompetent regarding the difficult economic/political/world environment." I don't think he is totally incompetent in all matters... just the most important ones.

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

Hey now: I'm as delighted as anyone to get Amerika back into an argument he can't win about the POTUS :pac:

Ahhh... That's the nicest thing anybody's said about me here in a long time.

tim_holsters

Overheal wrote: »

Hey now: I'm as delighted as anyone to get Amerika back into an argument he can't win about the POTUS :pac: however, you took that out of context:

"totally incompetent regarding the difficult economic/political/world environment"

Which is far more debatable as a topic than a blanket "Total incompetence", which was not said.

Yes you are right. Damn! He's still the living end though :pac:

tim_holsters

Amerika wrote: »

I posted "totally incompetent regarding the difficult economic/political/world environment." I don't think he is totally incompetent in all matters... just the most important ones.

I'll have my revenge one day

Like a befuddled conservative at a Death Metal gig I was too quick to take offence.

Amerika

tim_holsters wrote: »

Yes you are right. Damn! He's still the living end though :pac:

Curious… is "living" often synonymous with "horse’s" in Ireland? :pac:

Amerika

tim_holsters wrote: »

I'll have my revenge one day

Like a befuddled conservative at a Death Metal gig I was too quick to take offence.

In the words of Ronald Reagan… "There you go again." I've seen Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Blue Oyster Cult, AC/DC, Ozzi Ozborne and a couple others metal bands play live in concert.

tim_holsters

Amerika wrote: »

Curious… is "living" often synonymous with "horse’s" in Ireland? :pac:

I like it :pac:

tim_holsters

Amerika wrote: »

In the words of Ronald Reagan… "There you go again." I've seen Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Blue Oyster Cult, AC/DC, Ozzi Ozborne and a couple others metal bands play live in concert.

Yes Amerika but you're hardly a "befuddled" conservative

Thargor

tim_holsters wrote: »

How is Obama totally imcompetent? You really are the living end.

What is wrong with him? Everything he posts makes me cringe, he has to be trolling, its like he views reality and twists it into this bizarre right-wing storyline in his head and posts that instead.

matthew8

20Cent wrote: »

Its a huge money maker, claim to be running for president raise loads in funds, increased profile and sell some books. Newt Gingritch has been doing it for years.

Ps what the feck is this Hermain Cain ad about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSlC7BxmSqY

The difference is that Newt Gingrich can win.

Overheal

Wow turned into a love fest in here

Carcharodon

Thargor wrote: »

What is wrong with him? Everything he posts makes me cringe, he has to be trolling, its like he views reality and twists it into this bizarre right-wing storyline in his head and posts that instead.

I probably have the opposite view on nearly everything he says but he does represent the views of millions of Americans and is able to articulate it in a well constructed manner. Good for the form as a whole, it would be very quite otherwise.

Corsendonk

The important Herman Cain Question, where in Ireland is his family from?

Overheal

FreudianSlippers

Thargor wrote: »

He got a laugh out of that even though you would expect a world leader to know most of those names but not knowing China has the atomic bomb?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/11/cain-campaign

[colbert]next thing you know they'll be building a wall to keep foreigners out.[/colbert]

Amerika

Take a look at this video (after the commercial of course) of an analysis of the first three days of media coverage by ABC CBS & NBC regarding breaking news reports of sexual allegations... comparing those of Herman Cain vs Bill Clinton, and tell me there is no double standard of Dems and Reps in the media.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1257198015001/grapevine-cain-vs-clinton-media-attention

sarumite

Amerika wrote: »

In the words of Ronald Reagan… "There you go again." I've seen Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Blue Oyster Cult, AC/DC, Ozzi Ozborne and a couple others metal bands play live in concert.

You lucky backstard

sarumite

Amerika wrote: »

Take a look at this video (after the commercial of course) of an analysis of the first three days of media coverage by ABC CBS & NBC regarding breaking news reports of sexual allegations... comparing those of Herman Cain vs Bill Clinton, and tell me there is no double standard of Dems and Reps in the media.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1257198015001/grapevine-cain-vs-clinton-media-attention

I can't watch the video, but I will later.

That said,

I must admit I had a mild chuckle at the idea of using Fox news to highlight double standards in the media. Seemed almost apt. Personally I think comparing how the media reacts now to then isn't all too fair considering that the media in general is far more sensationalistic now. the goalposts have moved.....and personally I think Fox had a lot to do with moving them.

Amerika

sarumite wrote: »

You lucky backstard

Saw AC/DC back in the Bon Scott era. Missed the first half hour of the concert taking an evening exam at the college, but got in for free because I knew the girl at the counter.

My nephew’s heavy metal band is opening for Sebastian Bach at a concert this month. They want me to come, but I’m reluctant... as this conservative might just become “befuddled.“

Thargor

Amerika wrote: »

Take a look at this video (after the commercial of course) of an analysis of the first three days of media coverage by ABC CBS & NBC regarding breaking news reports of sexual allegations... comparing those of Herman Cain vs Bill Clinton, and tell me there is no double standard of Dems and Reps in the media.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1257198015001/grapevine-cain-vs-clinton-media-attention

Well one was the president of the US, the other is just some wannabe, obviously theres going to be more interest in the former.

Amerika

Thargor wrote: »

Well one was the president of the US, the other is just some wannabe, obviously theres going to be more interest in the former.

You'd think... But there wasn't.

Anyway... Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Gennifer Flowers, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, and Dolly Kyle Browning. By my count that makes eight.

With Cain, there are now reports of three. Five more and he’s qualified to be president of the US by dem standards.

Hey... Remember all the investigative reporting the media did on Vera Baker? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know... WHO?

Thargor

Amerika wrote: »

You'd think... But there wasn't.

Ummm there was slightly more interest in the Monica Lewinsky scandal than this Herman Cain thing, what with the impeachment of a sitting president and all that.

Amerika

Thargor wrote: »

Ummm there was slightly more interest in the Monica Lewinsky scandal than this Herman Cain thing, what with the impeachment of a sitting president and all that.

My point is about the hypocrisy and double standards of the media... Didn’t Newsweek’s Isikoff sit on the story for four months until Drudge exposed it and forced their hands? And the impeachment thing was about lying to a grand jury which came much later, not an affair.

Carcharodon

Amerika wrote: »

You'd think... But there wasn't.

Anyway... Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, Gennifer Flowers, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, and Dolly Kyle Browning. By my count that makes eight.

With Cain, there are now reports of three. Five more and he’s qualified to be president of the US by dem standards.

Hey... Remember all the investigative reporting the media did on Vera Baker? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know... WHO?

Its up to four, maybe the republicans could have a viable candidate after all

Amerika

[irony]

NEWS ALERT..........
Herman Cain has put the issue to rest... He registered as a Democrat and is running against Obama in the Democtatic party primary.

MEDIA ALERT..........
All negative Cain stories are to cease IMMEDIATELY! As of today what happens in private is a personal issue and not to be discussed or judged in any way.

[/irony]

Jimmy Iovine

Here's something that'll brighten up your day or night. Mike Tyson did a spoof commercial pretending to be Cain for Funny or Die. Clearly someone else wrote the script for him but it's all in the delivery. It's just so surreal seeing Tyson up there saying some of the things he does. He makes a fool of Cain. Brilliant stuff.

The video isn't on Youtube. There is a link to it here.

I've found another video of Mike. This time he sings a song. Fine pair of lungs on him.

Hope he makes a few more of them.

cyberhog

Herman Cain at a rally in Michigan -- "How do you beat Obama? Beat him with a Cain!"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/herman-cain-in-michigan-on-obama-beat-him-with-a-cain/2011/11/10/gIQAUsHy8M_blog.html?tid=sm_btn_twitter

Overheal

He's right! Obama just needs to be beat with John McCa- Waiiiiit....

matthew8

Has anyone noticed how the liberal media seems to disqualify Cain from being a good enough candidate because he's black? They seem to assume that he's only in the running because he's black, and that if you're a black republican people could only possibly like you if they want to hide their racism. Funny, I didn't hear them saying this about Obama when he ran in the former slave-owning party.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/10/msnbc_herman_cain_gives_right-wing_a_way_to_say_theyre_not_racist.html

InTheTrees

matthew8 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how the liberal media seems to disqualify Cain from being a good enough candidate because he's black?

No. I havent.

Exile 1798

Amerika wrote: »

[irony]

NEWS ALERT..........
Herman Cain has put the issue to rest... He registered as a Democrat and is running against Obama in the Democtatic party primary.

MEDIA ALERT..........
All negative Cain stories are to cease IMMEDIATELY! As of today what happens in private is a personal issue and not to be discussed or judged in any way.

[/irony]

You seem to have no concept of what irony actually is.

Thargor

matthew8 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how the liberal media seems to disqualify Cain from being a good enough candidate because he's black? They seem to assume that he's only in the running because he's black, and that if you're a black republican people could only possibly like you if they want to hide their racism. Funny, I didn't hear them saying this about Obama when he ran in the former slave-owning party.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/10/msnbc_herman_cain_gives_right-wing_a_way_to_say_theyre_not_racist.html

Good God :rolleyes:

Overheal

matthew8 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed how the liberal media seems to disqualify Cain from being a good enough candidate because he's black? They seem to assume that he's only in the running because he's black, and that if you're a black republican people could only possibly like you if they want to hide their racism. Funny, I didn't hear them saying this about Obama when he ran in the former slave-owning party.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/10/msnbc_herman_cain_gives_right-wing_a_way_to_say_theyre_not_racist.html

No I honestly can't say I've noticed. I do keep an ear out for bad arguments though let me tell you, I don't care whose mouth it comes out of, but no I haven't heard any race issues around Cain in months.

Uhm, now, having said that, you should probably watch this - maybe this is the type of thing the RCP article is referring to? All I can say is it's not Stewarts words that shock me, it's that crazy blonde girl from FOX that makes the argument, on live television, that "Our blacks on better than their blacks" (3:20). And Donald Trump quoted "I have a great relationship with the Blacks." (2:30)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-2-2011/conservative-minorities-vs--liberal-minorities

*Also, nobody matches MSNBC.

matthew8

Overheal wrote: »

No I honestly can't say I've noticed. I do keep an ear out for bad arguments though let me tell you, I don't care whose mouth it comes out of, but no I haven't heard any race issues around Cain in months.

Uhm, now, having said that, you should probably watch this - maybe this is the type of thing the RCP article is referring to? All I can say is it's not Stewarts words that shock me, it's that crazy blonde girl from FOX that makes the argument, on live television, that "Our blacks on better than their blacks" (3:20). And Donald Trump quoted "I have a great relationship with the Blacks." (2:30)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-2-2011/conservative-minorities-vs--liberal-minorities

*Also, nobody matches MSNBC.

I think the nobody watches MSNBC argument is all that needs to be said. They've been on a witchhunt against this guy, though individuals from other channels like Bill Maher seem to hate him too. Thank god these guys are unpopular.

tim_holsters

matthew8 wrote: »

I think the nobody watches MSNBC argument is all that needs to be said. They've been on a witchhunt against this guy, though individuals from other channels like Bill Maher seem to hate him too. Thank god these guys are unpopular.

Bill Maher unpopular :eek:! Not in my neck of the woods.

FreudianSlippers

I am Amerrrrikkuuuhhhh, one voice... united we stand!


Damn that song is catchy!