Being open minded about homosexuality

Scanlas The 2nd · 31-10-2011 04:38PM #1

I find quite a lot of people on boards just aren't open minded to the possiblility people are gay as a result of some fault or something going wrong. I don't know the answer but some people won't even entertain the possibility or discuss it open mindedly. They have there ideas set in stone that being gay is not as a result of some sort of fault,be it hormone imbalances or whatever.

Even if it were a result of some fault in your body's make up that you makes you gay, why should a gay person even care. So long as you enjoy your life and you're happy who cares, but even the mention of it being a fault and it becomes difficult to have a reasonable discussion on the subject.

John Doe1 · 31-10-2011 04:39PM

What, i think after hours is very liberal about the idea compared to the general population

4leto · 31-10-2011 04:41PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I find quite a lot of people on boards just aren't open minded to the possiblility people are gay as a result of some fault or something going wrong. I don't know the answer but some people won't even entertain the possibility or discuss it open mindedly. They have there ideas set in stone that being gay is not as a result of some sort of fault,be it hormone imbalances or whatever.

Even if it were a result of some fault in your body's make up that you makes you gay, why should a gay person even care. So long as you enjoy your life and you're happy who cares, but even the mention of it being a fault and it becomes difficult to have a reasonable discussion on the subject.

A fault????????????????????????????

WTF

efb · 31-10-2011 04:42PM

I find the internet is full of keyboard warriors. AH is no different.

And now some Britney!

chucken1 · 31-10-2011 04:44PM

4leto wrote: »

A fault????????????????????????????

WTF

Care for some popcorn?

Gummy Panda · 31-10-2011 04:45PM

I wouldn't say I'm pro-gay or anti-gay..

I really just don't care tbh

Spunge · 31-10-2011 04:46PM

Because liberals love to be offended.

AnonoBoy · 31-10-2011 04:47PM

I think being gay is a result of being sprinkled with pixie dust at the crossroads during a full moon.

As soon as I start talking about it though I get shouted down. It's PC liberal right-wing neo-conservatism gone mad I tells ya!

Duddy · 31-10-2011 04:48PM

"something going wrong" and "a fault" implies that being (or becoming) gay is a negative outcome - I think you'd find that many boardsies could imagine it being the result of a change in hormones, a recessive gene being expressed etc., but wouldn't phrase it as "something going wrong";)

efb · 31-10-2011 04:48PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

I wouldn't say I'm pro-gay or anti-gay..

I really just don't care tbh

I'm the same way about hetros!

lets party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyx6JDQCslE

LighterGuy · 31-10-2011 04:48PM

I would say that being gay is NOT the result of some biological difference a person has. Its who the person is.

However, one could say that the environment we grow up in may play a factor (in some cases now, not all or majority)

Gummy Panda · 31-10-2011 04:48PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I think being gay is a result of being sprinkled with pixie dust at the crossroads during a full moon.

Thats it! No more Twilight movies or books for you :mad:

KeithAFC · 31-10-2011 04:49PM

Can't have different opinions in society OP.

Ellis Dee · 31-10-2011 04:50PM

I suspect no one knows for sure why someone is gay, and I see no point in talking about "faults", "defects", "imbalances" or anything like that. Whatever floats your boat, and so on.;)

Just accept it. What this world needs a lot more than moralising is a bit more live and let live.:D:)

mikemac · 31-10-2011 04:51PM

I don't know the reasons, it's just the way

Maybe the same reasons some are left handed and everyone else wishes they were :cool:

Scanlas The 2nd · 31-10-2011 04:52PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

I wouldn't say I'm pro-gay or anti-gay..

I really just don't care tbh

Likewise I don't really care but who said anything about being pro or anti gay.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think there is a possibility there might be something gone wrong in a human that prevents( or makes a lot less likely) them from passing on their genes.

A disclaimer for the idiots: There is nothing morally wrong or shameful about being gay.

Logical Fallacy · 31-10-2011 04:53PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

So long as you enjoy your life and you're happy who cares, but even the mention of it being a fault and it becomes difficult to have a reasonable discussion on the subject.

It's because the word "fault" is loaded with negativity.

Not really that surprising.

RichieC · 31-10-2011 04:55PM

Spunge wrote: »

Because liberals love to be offended.

Yea it's the liberals who hold an annual war on christmas... I'm well aware of the uber liberal tendency to be offended at things but the other end of the scale is just as bad, only for different reasons.

there's gay in nature too.. it's just how it is.

smk89 · 31-10-2011 04:55PM

LighterGuy wrote: »

I would say that being gay is NOT the result of some biological difference a person has. Its who the person is.

However, one could say that the environment we grow up in may play a factor (in some cases now, not all or majority)

Exactly, the general rule is 60% environment, 40% genetics.
However some studys have shown that the optical chiasm is larger in females and homosexuals indicating a biological "cause".

However talking about it in a cause way is like how the daily mail would phrase it indicating it is a problem.

4leto · 31-10-2011 04:57PM

Its genetic or its a result of prenatal development in the womb so you are born that way, but now one is certain, but it doesn't matter. Would you hate or want to understand why a person is born black, that is irrational and absurd.

Needless to say for most gay people it is not a "lifestyle choice" there are easier lifestyle choices to make, married, kids, grand children and in the majority and not face discrimination. But that is life and I for one will not make it harder for them.

Dudess · 31-10-2011 04:58PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Can't have different opinions in society OP.

Of course you can. You can even blurt out unsubstantiated sh1te and maintain you're being bullied by liberals if called up on the lack of support for your claims.

ejmaztec · 31-10-2011 04:59PM

efb wrote: »

I find the internet is full of keyboard warriors. AH is no different.

..or in this case homoerotic keyboard wrestlers.

feckin Greeks

dlofnep · 31-10-2011 05:00PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Can't have different opinions in society OP.

What is your opinion on Gay people Keith?

Gummy Panda · 31-10-2011 05:02PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Likewise I don't really care but who said anything about being pro or anti gay.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think there is a possibility there might be something gone wrong in a human that prevents( or makes a lot less likely) them from passing on their genes.

A disclaimer for the idiots: There is nothing morally wrong or shameful about being gay.

I don't want to put words in your mouth but can you clarify this post?

Are you saying they're gay and its natures way of preventing them from passing on their genes?

PK2008 · 31-10-2011 05:03PM

Here's a question for you:

If there was a pill the doctor could give your child that would guarantee he/she would be hetrosexual, would you ask for it?

galwayrush · 31-10-2011 05:03PM

This shouldn't even be an issue now days. Live and let live.

efb · 31-10-2011 05:06PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

..or in this case homoerotic keyboard wrestlers.

feckin Greeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guCGGjrYHUo

Chips Lovell · 31-10-2011 05:07PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I find quite a lot of people on boards just aren't open minded to the possiblility people are gay as a result of some fault or something going wrong.

Subtle. Very subtle

4leto · 31-10-2011 05:07PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Likewise I don't really care but who said anything about being pro or anti gay.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think there is a possibility there might be something gone wrong in a human that prevents( or makes a lot less likely) them from passing on their genes.

A disclaimer for the idiots: There is nothing morally wrong or shameful about being gay.

I'm exasperated, first they can pass on their genes and second there is a strong possibility it is not genetic, they have being looking for a gene with little success for years. But it could be prenatal as in the experience of the foetus in the womb. Or a combination. But I stipulate no-one is sure.

efb · 31-10-2011 05:07PM

PK2008 wrote: »

Here's a question for you:

If there was a pill the doctor could give your child that would guarantee he/she would be hetrosexual, would you ask for it?

if i had a pill that would make my children open minded and tolerant I'd take it! :rolleyes:

Logical Fallacy · 31-10-2011 05:07PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Likewise I don't really care but who said anything about being pro or anti gay.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think there is a possibility there might be something gone wrong in a human that prevents( or makes a lot less likely) them from passing on their genes.

A disclaimer for the idiots: There is nothing morally wrong or shameful about being gay.

Your point about passing on your genes makes no real sense. Your actual physicality and everything about you is the product of about 2% of the genetic information within your DNA. As such, you cannot look at someone and decide if there genes are advantageous or not. A perfect healthy straight person could end up possessing genes that contain a detrimental illness if they have a child.

Just apply Occam's Razor to the scenario.

MyKeyG · 31-10-2011 05:07PM

LighterGuy wrote: »

However, one could say that the environment we grow up in may play a factor (in some cases now, not all or majority)

A gay guy I used to work with told me he's convinced he became homosexual because his older sisters treated him like a doll, dressing him up in girls clothes and make-up and what not even though he also said that girls were his flavour of ice cream up until his mid teens so go figure!

efb · 31-10-2011 05:08PM

MyKeyG wrote: »

A gay guy I used to work with told me he's convinced he became homosexual because his older sisters treated him like a doll, dressing him up in girls clothes and make-up and what not even though he also said that girls were his flavour of ice cream up until his mid teens so go figure!

all the proof we need!

Captain Limerick · 31-10-2011 05:08PM

Gay people suffer plenty of strife
And prejudice it can be rife.
But nothing went askew,
There's nothing wrong with you,
So continue living your life!

Chuck Stone · 31-10-2011 05:08PM

Psychiatrists used to think that homosexuality was a frightening disease of the mind.

With the stroke of a pen that frightening disease no longer existed.

Pure magic.

KeithAFC · 31-10-2011 05:09PM

dlofnep wrote: »

What is your opinion on Gay people Keith?

Don't really have one. Don't care in all honesty.

hatrickpatrick · 31-10-2011 05:09PM

I don't dispute the concept that being gay might be as a result of something. What I dispute is your persistent use of terms like "fault" or "gone wrong".

If I had been born with blond hair instead of black, or if I had been born with green eyes instead of blue, would anyone regard it as a "fault" or "something gone wrong?"

If I had grown up with a Kerry accent instead of a Dublin one, would that be regarded as a "fault" or "something gone wrong"?

Your bigotry is revealed in your decision to define the potential cause of homosexuality as a negative event.

Cill Dara Abu · 31-10-2011 05:10PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Don't really have one. Don't care in all honesty.

Oliver Cromwell was gay wasn't he? :pac:

jaffacakesyum · 31-10-2011 05:10PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHe5uP0st8

parker kent · 31-10-2011 05:11PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Likewise I don't really care but who said anything about being pro or anti gay.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think there is a possibility there might be something gone wrong in a human that prevents( or makes a lot less likely) them from passing on their genes.

A disclaimer for the idiots: There is nothing morally wrong or shameful about being gay.

Surely you can see how the word "fault" is picked up as a negative. The rattle out the pram remark about "idiots" is ridiculous. You said that people may be gay due to a "fault or something gone wrong". Any person of reasonable mind would believe that to be a negative comment. If you disagree, then I think you should check fault and wrong in the dictionary.

As is said above, there are plenty of people willing to believe that being gay is related to genes, DNA etc. But then so is almost everything.

MyKeyG · 31-10-2011 05:12PM

efb wrote: »

all the proof we need!

You truly have a dazzling wit:rolleyes:

PK2008 · 31-10-2011 05:12PM

efb wrote: »

if i had a pill that would make my children open minded and tolerant I'd take it! :rolleyes:

I bet there is a lot of people who consider themselves open minded but would also opt for the pill

Cill Dara Abu · 31-10-2011 05:13PM

MyKeyG wrote: »

You truly have a dazzling wit:rolleyes:

Oh be nice

dlofnep · 31-10-2011 05:16PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Don't really have one. Don't care in all honesty.

Well shut up looking for attention then.

Lucy8080 · 31-10-2011 05:16PM

im glad at long last someone has the good sense to recognise there is fault as the cause of this.

hetrosexuals have been breeding gayness into the world .

they just will not refrain from their disease. like rabbits they are.

if we can just get hetrosexuals to admit the burden of fault they bear and vow to live in celibacy we can rid the world of gayness.

'taint the produce...its the producers we need to march on .

down with this sort of thing. enforce celebacy now for all declared hetrosexuals.

Scanlas The 2nd · 31-10-2011 05:16PM

galwayrush wrote: »

This shouldn't even be an issue now days. Live and let live.

What?

Who's claiming we shouldn't live and let live?

Can you not accept that there is a possibility something went wrong in the building of a human that turns out gay? I find it bizaare that someone would think there is a 0 percent chance.

I'm open to the possibility that it's some sort of clever little trick of evolution to help pass on your genes and there is absolutely no fault in a person's DNA or body.

parker kent · 31-10-2011 05:24PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Can you not accept that there is a possibility something went wrong in the building of a human that turns out gay? I find it bizaare that someone would think there is a 0 percent chance.

I'm open to the possibility that it's some sort of clever little trick of evolution to help pass on your genes and there is absolutely no fault in a person's DNA or body.

Nothing went "wrong". FFS it is not a fault. There are very few (if any) disagreeing that DNA plays a role. However it is not a fault or something "gone wrong" and using such idiotic language is ridiculous.

randylonghorn · 31-10-2011 05:25PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Can you not accept that there is a possibility something went wrong in the building of a human that turns out gay?

Simple question:

Why is it, in your mind, that result = gay person implies that "something went wrong in the building of a human" ?

Scanlas The 2nd · 31-10-2011 05:26PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don't dispute the concept that being gay might be as a result of something. What I dispute is your persistent use of terms like "fault" or "gone wrong".

If I had been born with blond hair instead of black, or if I had been born with green eyes instead of blue, would anyone regard it as a "fault" or "something gone wrong?"

If I had grown up with a Kerry accent instead of a Dublin one, would that be regarded as a "fault" or "something gone wrong"?

Your bigotry is revealed in your decision to define the potential cause of homosexuality as a negative event.

Different hair colour doesn't stop you from passing on your genes.

I never said homosexuality was a negative event. I think if being gay makes someone happy I see it as a positive event and a good thing that some molecule happened to bounce in the wrong direction if it is the case that it is a result of something going wrong.

parker kent · 31-10-2011 05:34PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I never said homosexuality was a negative event.

Ehhh...

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I find quite a lot of people on boards just aren't open minded to the possiblility people are gay as a result of some fault or something going wrong.

If you had just said it was related to hormones, DNA, genes etc, nobody would have an issue. As I have said in my other posts that you have ignored, people have an issue with you using words like fault in relation to homosexuality.

Immaculate Pasta · 31-10-2011 05:37PM

God made Adam and Eve, he didn't create Adam and Steve :cool: /thread

Being open minded about homosexuality

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