Why do so many Dubs pronounce it "Holloween"??

Harry Angstrom

This is something which has been getting on my goat over the past few years. It seems to me that more and more people (especially Dubs) seem to call it "Holloween" instead of Halloween. I've been listening to the radio a lot over the past few days and I've heard 5 separate people say "Holloween", 4 of them being Dubs. I wonder if this is the Jedwardisation of the Irish accent, where not only do Dubs (in particular) pronounce their words in a ridiculous American-style twang but now they can't even say HALLOWEEN properly! :mad:

chin_grin

Yeah, I've had so many sleepless nights over the little things. :pac:

indioblack

My aunt in Cork calls it Holloween, too.
Never thought to ask why.

bitemybanger

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056427081

Samich

hmmm maybe halloween is the culchie sound, you know like the way western paks talk? Maybe just easier for them dubs to sound holloween than halloween?

loike

it sounds the same to me

Praetorian Saighdiuir

I have been saying Holloween way before Jedward were around.

Also does yore ma get on your goat too?

MistyCheese

Nevermind that, what I wanna know is, how come Americans seem to be unable to pronounce Las Vegas correctly? They say "Los Vegas". Whereas the English are able to say "Las Vegas."

I think that's a bit odd, as Las Vegas is in America, you'd think they'd be able to pronounce the name of a city better than people from many miles away in the UK.

Samich

MistyCheese wrote: »

Nevermind that, what I wanna know is, how come Americans seem to be unable to pronounce Las Vegas correctly? They say "Los Vegas". Whereas the English are able to say "Las Vegas."

I think that's a bit odd, as Las Vegas is in America, you'd think they'd be able to pronounce the name of a city better than people from many miles away in the UK.

hmmm they say new orlins. We say new orleans. They're right I guess?

sh1tstirrer

I have been calling it Holloween for years it seems to be a new thing for Dubs.

FruitLover

Getting on your goat?? Like for a ride around the farm?

To answer your question: as we Dubs are sophisticated folk, we are offended by the ongoing gradual commercialisation of traditional festivals, such as Hallowe'en. By way of wittily voicing our scorn at this erosion of cultural value, we have begun to refer to the crass modern practice, devoid (or 'hollow', if you will) of traditional meaning as "hollowe'en".

Chin_grin: you should never underestimate the emotional distress someone from Cark can be subjected to due to the actions or words of someone from Dublin. It may seem trivial to you or me, but this could be a source of the most serious mental anguish indeed for our esteemed OP.

Bajingo

How do you pronounce hallway down in Cork?

chickenbutt

Samich wrote: »

hmmm they say new orlins. We say new orleans. They're right I guess?

It's "Nawlins".

pragmatic1

Because Dubs are really English people.

Simon Adebisi

Cos dubs are muppets.

Fact.

Limerick is king. Suck it bitches.

Yup, i said, come up from around me ye gowlbags.

Are you sure it's not the D4 accent you're thinking of? Since they say Dort rather than Dart it probably is. That doesn't represent the Dublin population as a whole.

MistyCheese

Samich wrote: »

hmmm they say new orlins. We say new orleans. They're right I guess?

I'm sorry but I don't understand? Who is right, the Americans?

They're not right if they pronounce Las Vegas as Los Vegas.

indioblack

Bajingo wrote: »

How do you pronounce hallway down in Cork?

That's the bit after the front door before you bump into the stairs!

John Doe1

Simple, Its because dubliners dont have a soul:cool:

chin_grin

John Doe1 wrote: »

Simple, Its because dubliners dont have a soul:cool:

I can vouch for this.

Guy:Incognito

Its to get back at the culchies for pronouncing every other word wrong.

Samich

MistyCheese wrote: »

I'm sorry but I don't understand? Who is right, the Americans?

They're not right if they pronounce Las Vegas as Los Vegas.

They're right as they're the ones who know it better and live in these places.

RichieC

Ve hickle...fk off youse haven't a leg to stand on.

Harry Angstrom

RichieC wrote: »

Ve hickle...fk off youse haven't a leg to stand on.

Ve hickle is pronounced by big thick Guards from the midlands.

Chuck Stone

FruitLover wrote: »

as we Dubs are sophisticated folk

*Chuckle*

Saila

because it is holloween

chughes

John Doe1 wrote: »

Simple, Its because dubliners dont have a soul:cool:

You've obviously never seen The Commitments.

dsmythy

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

This is something which has been getting on my goat over the past few years. It seems to me that more and more people (especially Dubs) seem to call it "Holloween" instead of Halloween. I've been listening to the radio a lot over the past few days and I've heard 5 separate people say "Holloween", 4 of them being Dubs. I wonder if this is the Jedwardisation of the Irish accent, where not only do Dubs (in particular) pronounce their words in a ridiculous American-style twang but now they can't even say HALLOWEEN properly! :mad:

Ye staarrtin'???

whitesands

I don't think it's a jedward or american thing.

holloween is quicker to say, us dub's don't have all day to be standing around talking & worrying about our how we sound...

In dublin a trip to the shop is an ordeal, not the highlight of your day

The_B_Man

OP, I think you should join this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056410535

RichieC

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Ve hickle is pronounced by big thick Guards from the midlands.

Oh right, well since you were generalising all dubs I thought I'd generalise all boggers.

Eve_Dublin

Get a life.

FatherTed

MistyCheese wrote: »

Nevermind that, what I wanna know is, how come Americans seem to be unable to pronounce Las Vegas correctly? They say "Los Vegas". Whereas the English are able to say "Las Vegas."

I think that's a bit odd, as Las Vegas is in America, you'd think they'd be able to pronounce the name of a city better than people from many miles away in the UK.

Nobody calls its Los Vegas here. Or Las Vegas.

It's just Vegas.

Mind you my yankee kids had quite a laugh when we were told the code of the exit gate at our hotel in Galway last year. It was Tree-Tree-Tirty-Tree.

orourkeda

John Doe1 wrote: »

Simple, Its because dubliners dont have a soul:cool:

An interesting extrapolation based on how we pronounce Halloween.

Sigmund Freud here

Corsendonk

Crips instead of Crisps is the one that wrecks my head, heard it often in Finglas and Ballyfermont.

a-k-47

Hall holl...same difference.

rubadub

ridiculous American-style twang

people in glass houses....

Super-Rush

Post over in one of the Dublin forums and ask them.

I doubt you'll get on too well though.