The Daily Fail Strikes again

Mr Trade In

:mad: Sick article overselling what could happen if war breaks out in Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054913/Europe-war-2018-As-Angela-Merkel-says-euro-meltdown-spark-battle.html

Particularly disgusted with the 15 deaths in Dublin in August 2012,sick bastards.

I didn't read it in the paper, I seen it on Google News, and no I don't read the Mail as it is a fcuking gutter rag as seen in this pisstake of an article.

Hank_Jones

It's a fictitious article, I fail to see the problem.

I for one welcome our new overlords...

Chuck Stone

War, huh.

What is it good for?

Faith+1

Mr Trade In wrote: »

:mad: Sick article overselling what could happen if war breaks out in Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054913/Europe-war-2018-As-Angela-Merkel-says-euro-meltdown-spark-battle.html

Particularly disgusted with the 15 deaths in Dublin in August 2012,sick bastards.

Please be Flanders Please be Flanders

Mr Trade In

Hank_Jones wrote: »

It's a fictitious article, I fail to see the problem.

Read it first, then comment.

the groutch

Chuck Stone wrote: »

War, huh.

What is it good for?

Stealing oil

cml387

I know it's the Mail.

I know I'm going to regret saying this but..

War is the default situation in Europe.Peace has broken out for a period as long as we have experienced only once, from the end of the Napoleonic wars to the Franco Prussian war.


So it's not as remote a possibility as some people think.

pdbhp

Chuck Stone wrote: »

War, huh.

What is it good for?

Absolutly Nothing!!!

Hobbes

Hank_Jones wrote: »

It's a fictitious article, I fail to see the problem.

I for one welcome our new overlords...

Fiction in the daily mail? Say it isn't so. :pac:

Nolanger

Leave the DM alone. One of the best websites ever!

chin_grin

pdbhp wrote: »

Absolutly Nothing!!!

Say it again!

the groutch

wouldnt be too worried anyway, the Germans are 0-2 in World Wars

Mr Trade In

the groutch wrote: »

Liberating oil

FYP

Suryavarman

It's obviously a bad prediction of what would happen. As if the French are ever going to win a war.

"Aided by Spanish and Italian auxiliaries, backed by German money and quietly supported by neo-imperialist Russia, the French army has encircled our expeditionary force on the other side of the Channel and cut it
to shreds."


Bad Europe!!

parrai

Up until august 2012 is feasible, but the rest is just hypothetical shyte...

When he starts crappin on about 15 killed in Dublin in August, imagination running riot is definately the truest part of his article

Dotrel

Chuck Stone wrote: »

War, huh.

What is it good for?

Good god nuh

pdbhp

Blast the Daily Mail with píss

laoch na mona

gotta love that paper

4leto

Europe has worked in that regard, for centuries we have been at each others throats. I venture to say, apart from Yugoslavia (which was a civil war) these 66 years since WW2 is the longest time Europe was ever at peace since the Roman empire. (not sure about that).

kincsem

Chuck Stone wrote: »

War, huh.
What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing
Listen to me

Stinicker

Hands up if your Irish, both if your French!

mikemac

Why do the readers hate the French so much?

Yeah cheese eating surrender monkeys is a joke, we get that. I'm looking at the other comments

One even dragging up Agincourt :rolleyes:
There is some right vitriol in there about the French.

4leto

Italian weapons for sale never fired and only dropped once.

laoch na mona

mikemac wrote: »

Why do the readers hate the French so much?

Yeah cheese eating surrender monkeys is a joke, we get that. I'm looking at the other comments

One even dragging up Agincourt :rolleyes:
There is some right vitriol in there about the French.

and those dirty russians
ivan cant be trusted

Yahew

4leto wrote: »

Europe has worked in that regard, for centuries we have been at each others throats. I venture to say, apart from Yugoslavia (which was a civil war) these 66 years since WW2 is the longest time Europe was ever at peace since the Roman empire. (not sure about that).

Thats definitely true. Stephen Pinker calls it the long peace. In general there were major European wars every generation until 1870, when peace reigned until 1914. We know what happened then.

The article is ok - it is designed to shock, as all counter factual histories are. I discount Europe going to war in the West, but not the anti-capitalist terrorism. Unless Europe get to be run for its citizenry in future, rather than the banks or bondholders, thats inevitable.

Yahew

laoch na mona wrote: »

and those dirty russians
ivan cant be trusted

True, ask you Polish friends. I see nothing to stop Russia getting back some territory in the next 20 years. Europe is poor, and largely dis-armed.

Hande hoche!

That pesky Putin.

15 people killed in Dublin? I blame Bertie.

RachaelVO

Mr Trade In wrote: »

:mad: Sick article overselling what could happen if war breaks out in Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054913/Europe-war-2018-As-Angela-Merkel-says-euro-meltdown-spark-battle.html

Particularly disgusted with the 15 deaths in Dublin in August 2012,sick bastards.

You lost me once I see daily mail, wouldn't even wipe my ars3 with that mother effing rag!

laoch na mona

Yahew wrote: »

True, ask you Polish friends. I see nothing to stop Russia getting back some territory in the next 20 years. Europe is poor, and largely dis-armed.

i was taking the piss it wont happen:eek:

Yahew

Lol, the Sanguine feelings Ireland has to Russia are based on it being on the other side of Europe. Putin is a semi-dictator, Russia is a dangerous country.

Yahew

laoch na mona wrote: »

i was taking the piss it wont happen:eek:

I wasn't. I think it will. Who, or what, is going to stop Russia retaking Latvia if they feel that ethnic russians there are in trouble?

Answer. Nobody.

The war in the West is unlikely. One in the East is more likely.

Dotrel

Deleted User wrote: »

15 people killed in Dublin? I blame Bertie.

Nah. It was an iffy barrel of Guinness.

Coincidentally I read that's what started the 1798 rebillion (the article was written in 1797).

parrai

Some of these comments under the article are funny, but this is what this article for written for... to produce a reaction

i have a hard time with the british army being defeated what usually happens is the IRISH show up to bail your asses out,first to be beaten up but always first to help
- john, ma,usa, 29/10/2011 2:24
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to much money spend on war with Iraq, Afghan, Libya and next you war each others, good
- azhar, london, 29/10/2011 1:35
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All those who bash the French make me laugh! What did Britain did during WW2? Run away in France and hide in Britain behind the channel until the arrival of the American troops. The French surrendered because their allies (the British) decided to run away instead of fighting. Red arrow me as long as you like but honestly, stop thinking you won the WW2 by yourselves, if it wasnt for the Americans, you would be speaking German now.
- Paul, Dresden, 29/10/2011 10:24
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So, we need to save the EU? Not the usual DM stance, but nice to know this publication is finally seeing sense.
- James, Vancouver, 29/10/2011 0:38
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Cool..why don't you guys just go back 2 using your old currencies & work off that. Socialism is what got you where you are now..yeah, I know, America screwed you..
- wcd, louisiana usa, 29/10/2011 0:35
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Totally irresponsible but no more than expected by this right wing rag


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Toby Take a Bow

cml387 wrote: »

War is the default situation in Europe.Peace has broken out for a period as long as we have experienced only once, from the end of the Napoleonic wars to the Franco Prussian war.

Not sure about this, but weren't there a couple of wars in the run-up to the Franco-Prussian war? Austria and ... France? Prussia? I think it was the period after the Franco-Prussian war that was peaceful (44 years), mainly because everyone was so concerned with getting territory elsewhere and because Bismarck was such a frightening person. Interestingly, you could argue the reason why there's been peace since 1945 was because people were concerned with gaining territory elsewhere (the cold war) and because Germany (and to a lesser extent, France) was relatively strong in Europe, similar to how Bismarck had worked it in his day.

What's really worrying about this article is that the Daily Mail essentially seems to be taking a pro-EU stance (whilst taking numerous digs at France).

4leto

Yahew wrote: »

True, ask you Polish friends. I see nothing to stop Russia getting back some territory in the next 20 years. Europe is poor, and largely dis-armed.

They have us by the bollox as well, soon they will be our major oil source they are already our major gas supplier.

But I don't think so they are undergoing a population decrease and to spite the energy and mineral wealth their economy is still bad. Its a kind of a corrupt anarchic Mafia pure capitalist system. Its a new system and it is very top heavy a kind of Kleptocracy.

thegreengoblin

The one thing they get right in the article is the fact that Putin will still be there in 2018.

Toby Take a Bow

Yahew wrote: »

I wasn't. I think it will. Who, or what, is going to stop Russia retaking Latvia if they feel that ethnic russians there are in trouble?

Answer. Nobody.

The Russians might. Surely it would make more sense to have a market to sell the gas to, rather than a market to force the gas on to?

But, yeah, if Putin is still in power, who knows?

Canis Lupus

Genuinely curious, in todays Europe who would be the military top dog, nukes taken out of the equation? If we all really went to war who would most likely come out tops?

MungBean

Ireland would join Britain for the fight, all the unemployed jump at the chance of a job and join the army. Britain + Ireland > France.

We become the new overlords !!!!

th3 s1aught3r

Mr Trade In wrote: »

:mad: Sick article overselling what could happen if war breaks out in Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054913/Europe-war-2018-As-Angela-Merkel-says-euro-meltdown-spark-battle.html

Particularly disgusted with the 15 deaths in Dublin in August 2012,sick bastards.

why oh why do people read the articles in this newspaper. Have you never read the Daily Mail before ?

4leto

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Genuinely curious, in todays Europe who would be the military top dog, nukes taken out of the equation? If we all really went to war who would most likely come out tops?

France, in equipment and numbers followed closely by Britain. But that does not matter. Who could rearm the quickest and that would be our friends the Germans.

In the whole of Europe it would be the Russians and then believe it or not the Ukrainians. Probably because of their nice neighbours.

MungBean

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

why oh why do people read these articles and then be offended by them. Have you never read the Daily Mail before ?

Yeah, cheek of him to be offended. Ignorant bastard

Mr Trade In

thegreengoblin wrote: »

The one thing they get right in the article is the fact that Putin will still be there in 2018.

He has been in politics since 1990 and became president in 1999, Prime Minister now but we all know he is the one in charge in Russia,I don't see Napoleon or Merkel still being in power in 7 years let alone Ed Miliband leading the Brits,Putin though is a different matter he likes his power and he should be feared as it is an empire he leads not a country.

Yahew

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Genuinely curious, in todays Europe who would be the military top dog, nukes taken out of the equation? If we all really went to war who would most likely come out tops?

Its hard to know. It might well be the French.

An acquaintance of mine, who is German military ( for what it's worth), said that ignoring nukes Turkey could defeat all of Europe.

(I don't see that happening its a thought experiment).

The Greeks, Austrians, former Yugos. would have no way to stop em, the Germans are de-militarised and then you take the French to get to the Atlantic. Thats the hard one.


This assumes Germany doesn't get to re-militarise.

thegreengoblin

MungBean wrote: »

Ireland would join Britain for the fight, all the unemployed jump at the chance of a job and join the army. Britain + Ireland > France.

We become the new overlords !!!!

And then think of all that reconstruction work to be done across Europe....we'll be feckin rolling in it again.

Mr Trade In

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

why oh why do people read the articles in this newspaper. Have you never read the Daily Mail before ?

I didn't read it in the paper, I seen it on Google News, and no I don't read the Mail as it is a fcuking gutter rag as seen in this pisstake of an article.

Dotrel

The G8 have all the most powerful militaries in the world. Of those 8 France and the UK are the two europeans who still have nukes. France have had to put up with 70 years of being called cowardly surrender-monkeys , so you know they're just itching for a fight.

Yahew

Just read the article, or get out of the thread.

As it happens that article is pro-European ( as some of the angry commentators have pointed out). It's saying that if we don't get our house in order now, worse is to come, possibly war. Its overdone, but an interesting take.

4leto

Then there is Israel who are also a powerful European army and they have nukes.