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Celcius to Farenheit conversion - where does the 5/9 come from

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  • 24-10-2011 12:07am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭


    Hi,
    Im learing computer programming as this conversion is the first I've run into. I know that -32 is used but how does the 5 divided by 9 work.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    euser1984 wrote: »
    Hi,
    Im learing computer programming as this conversion is the first I've run into. I know that -32 is used but how does the 5 divided by 9 work.

    Thanks.

    It's (temp - 32) * (5/9) to get from F to C.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    euser1984 wrote: »
    Hi,
    Im learing computer programming as this conversion is the first I've run into. I know that -32 is used but how does the 5 divided by 9 work.

    Thanks.

    Yes 32 °F is the offset, as you're aware, but there's also a scailing difference between the two.

    For example:
    Freezing point in degrees Celsius is 0°
    Freezing point in degrees Fahrenheit is 32°

    Boiling point in degrees Celsius is 100°
    Boiling point in degrees Fahrenheit is 212°

    So now we take the offset of 32 away from the Fahrenheit figures, we'll call this the "FahCel" scale for now! Sort of half-way between the two scales:

    Freezing point in degrees Celsius is 0°
    Freezing point in degrees FahCel is 0°

    Boiling point in degrees Celsius is 100°
    Boiling point in degrees FahCel is 180°

    Clearly, even though we have corrected for the offset (i.e. 0° Celsius corresponds to 0° FahCel), there's still a scailing difference because the boiling points are not equal. In other words, 1 degree Celsius ≠ 1 degree Fahrenheit.

    To see what we must multiply to fix this we write:

    [latex] \displaystyle 180^\circ \hbox{ FahCel} \times \hbox{scale} = 100^\circ \hbox{ Celsius}[/latex]

    [latex] \displaystyle \hbox{scale}= \frac{100^\circ \hbox{ Celsius}}{180°^\circ \hbox{ FahCel}} = \frac{5}{9} [/latex]

    Which means 1 degree Fahrenheit is equal to 5/9 degrees Celsius.

    So to convert from degrees Fahrenheit to degrees Celsius we subtract 32 and multiply by 5/9:

    [latex] \displaystyle C = \frac{5}{9}(F-32) [/latex]


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    euser1984 wrote: »
    Hi,
    Im learing computer programming as this conversion is the first I've run into. I know that -32 is used but how does the 5 divided by 9 work.

    Thanks.

    Yes 32 °F is the offset, as you're aware, but there's also a scailing difference between the two.

    For example:
    Freezing point in degrees Celsius is 0°
    Freezing point in degrees Fahrenheit is 32°

    Boiling point in degrees Celsius is 100°
    Boiling point in degrees Fahrenheit is 212°

    So now we take the offset of 32 away from the Fahrenheit figures, we'll call this the "FahCel" scale for now! Sort of half-way between the two scales:

    Freezing point in degrees Celsius is 0°
    Freezing point in degrees FahCel is 0°

    Boiling point in degrees Celsius is 100°
    Boiling point in degrees FahCel is 180°

    Clearly, even though we have corrected for the offset (i.e. 0° Celsius corresponds to 0° FahCel), there's still a scailing difference because the boiling points are not equal. In other words, 1 degree Celsius ≠ 1 degree Fahrenheit.

    To see what we must multiply to fix this we write:

    [latex] \displaystyle 180^\circ \hbox{ FahCel} \times \hbox{scale} = 100^\circ \hbox{ Celsius}[/latex]

    [latex] \displaystyle \hbox{scale}= \frac{100^\circ \hbox{ Celsius}}{180°^\circ \hbox{ FahCel}} = \frac{5}{9} [/latex]

    Which means 1 degree Celsius is equal to 5/9 degrees Fahrenheit.

    So to convert from degrees Fahrenheit to degrees Celsius we subtract 32 and multiply by 5/9:

    [latex] \displaystyle C = \frac{5}{9}(F-32) [/latex]



    Thanks for that. I keep thinking 5/9 is a fraction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    It is a fraction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,570 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    euser1984 wrote: »
    Thanks for that. I keep thinking 5/9 is a fraction.
    :confused:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    euser1984 wrote: »
    euser1984 wrote: »
    Hi,
    Im learing computer programming as this conversion is the first I've run into. I know that -32 is used but how does the 5 divided by 9 work.

    Thanks.

    Yes 32 °F is the offset, as you're aware, but there's also a scailing difference between the two.

    For example:
    Freezing point in degrees Celsius is 0°
    Freezing point in degrees Fahrenheit is 32°

    Boiling point in degrees Celsius is 100°
    Boiling point in degrees Fahrenheit is 212°

    So now we take the offset of 32 away from the Fahrenheit figures, we'll call this the "FahCel" scale for now! Sort of half-way between the two scales:

    Freezing point in degrees Celsius is 0°
    Freezing point in degrees FahCel is 0°

    Boiling point in degrees Celsius is 100°
    Boiling point in degrees FahCel is 180°

    Clearly, even though we have corrected for the offset (i.e. 0° Celsius corresponds to 0° FahCel), there's still a scailing difference because the boiling points are not equal. In other words, 1 degree Celsius ≠ 1 degree Fahrenheit.

    To see what we must multiply to fix this we write:

    [latex] \displaystyle 180^\circ \hbox{ FahCel} \times \hbox{scale} = 100^\circ \hbox{ Celsius}[/latex]

    [latex] \displaystyle \hbox{scale}= \frac{100^\circ \hbox{ Celsius}}{180°^\circ \hbox{ FahCel}} = \frac{5}{9} [/latex]

    Which means 1 degree Celsius is equal to 5/9 degrees Fahrenheit.

    So to convert from degrees Fahrenheit to degrees Celsius we subtract 32 and multiply by 5/9:

    [latex] \displaystyle C = \frac{5}{9}(F-32) [/latex]



    Thanks for that. I keep thinking 5/9 is a fraction.

    Sorry. I just saw it expressed differently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Which means 1 degree Celsius is equal to 5/9 degrees Fahrenheit.
    Surely it's the other way around.

    1F = 5/9C ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Delphi91


    Surely it's the other way around.

    1F = 5/9C ?

    100 C = 180 F

    Therefore 1 C = (180/100)F
    i.e. 1 C = (9/5) F

    or 1F = 5/9C


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Delphi91 wrote: »
    1F = 5/9C

    Well done.


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