I do not understand Irish people.

ThinkAboutIt · 22-10-2011 4:27pm #1

First, we had Fianna Fáil ruin the country - lose an election heavily, and hated all around the country. Kicked at every chance on Boards over anything and everything.

Then, a handful of months later, we have Sean Gallagher, actually IN Fianna Fáil when all the bad things were happening (charged €5k to meet Brian Cowen no less LOL) and he has 40% of the poll for president.

I realise the president doesn't do anything. Are we a huge bunch of hypocrites?

It makes no sense to me folks!

RachaelVO · 22-10-2011 4:28pm

No, we have big problems with learnin!

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 4:29pm

'It's Not the People Who Vote that Count; It's the People Who Count the Votes' - Joseph Stalin

Poor Uncle Tom · 22-10-2011 4:30pm

No we just tell him we are going to vote for him until voting day where we all vote for Dana.....

Cill Dara Abu · 22-10-2011 4:30pm

*Yawn*

Indubitable · 22-10-2011 4:31pm

Well I think many people see him as the best of a bad bunch.

tayto lover · 22-10-2011 4:32pm

The polls are completely wrong. Gallagher will not win.
Has any Boardsie ever been polled ? I never have and i'm around a long time. I these polls are "makey uppey".

My name is URL · 22-10-2011 4:32pm

The way some people are going on about it; you'd swear that Gallager was the FF Government's puppet master for the last decade. There's nothing wrong with him once being a member of FF.. like 10's of thousands of other ordinary and good people were. People can change their allegiances and outlooks you know.. if they couldn't then FF would still be in power.

Dotrel · 22-10-2011 4:33pm

kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »

Well I think many people see him as the best of a bad bunch.

Agreed. Not exactly a great selection. Seems like some kind of travelling freak-show full of minorities, oddballs and idiots.

The Irish presidential race has continually reminded me of this scene from Alan Partridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdZOGEU1qw

TheyKnowMyIP · 22-10-2011 4:36pm

My name is URL wrote: »

The way some people are going on about it; you'd swear that Gallager was the FF Government's puppet master for the last decade. There's nothing wrong with him once being a member of FF.. like 10's of thousands of other ordinary and good people were. People can change their allegiances and outlooks you know.. if they couldn't then FF would still be in power.

It's the undisclosed stuff people are speculating about though.

ThinkAboutIt · 22-10-2011 4:38pm

Have we forgiven FF already then?

I just find it baffling Norris gets killed in the polls for letters from years ago (which had no direct effect on our nation) and SG gets away with being in the middle of FF.

Can't get my head around the thinking.

Wouldn't have minded a close poll but 4 in 10 want a FFer as president.. after going into the IMF, I mean LOL.

rubadub · 22-10-2011 4:39pm

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Then, a handful of months later, we have Sean Gallagher, actually IN Fianna Fáil when all the bad things were happening

I have lots of mates, well ex-mates now, who work in banks, and a few family members, now disowned.

Glad to be rid of the cunts, banker scum I tells ya, I'm no hypocrite.

MagicMarker · 22-10-2011 4:40pm

Big woop, he was a member. In case you didn't notice the majority of people voted for FF at one time.

It's not like he made any of the stupid ****ing decisions that has the country in the state it in atm.

Immaculate Pasta · 22-10-2011 4:43pm

If it was raining soup, the Irish would go out with forks.
- Brendan Behan

Indubitable · 22-10-2011 4:43pm

ThinkAboutIt wrote: »

Have we forgiven FF already then?

I just find it baffling Norris gets killed in the polls for letters from years ago (which had no direct effect on our nation) and SG gets away with being in the middle of FF.

Can't get my head around the thinking.

Wouldn't have minded a close poll but 4 in 10 want a FFer as president.. after going into the IMF, I mean LOL.

Slight exaggeration there...

To quote My name is URL:

My name is URL wrote: »

The way some people are going on about it; you'd swear that Gallager was the FF Government's puppet master for the last decade. There's nothing wrong with him once being a member of FF.. like 10's of thousands of other ordinary and good people were. People can change their allegiances and outlooks you know.. if they couldn't then FF would still be in power.

As for Norris....In my opinion, it's not just the letters that "killed" his campaign. Norris claimed disability allowance while being a senator for 16 years (i think).

mattjack · 22-10-2011 4:48pm

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

No we just tell him we are going to vote for him until voting day where we all vote for Dana.....

I'm liking the way you think.Voting in Dana ,clearly as mad as a bucket of wasps, will be a master stroke.We'll be up there on the worlds stage joining other greats like Charlie Sheen,Kermit the Frog,Beria and Idi Amin

fryup · 22-10-2011 4:50pm

yet another thread slaggin everyone except > Mcguinness

mmmmmm

Mike 1972 · 22-10-2011 4:52pm

As far as Im concerned any Fianna Failer standing as an "Independent" should be done for elecoral fraud.

tonycascarino · 22-10-2011 4:53pm

Michael D. Higgins will become the President. Not voting for him myself though.

My name is URL · 22-10-2011 4:55pm

Mike 1972 wrote: »

As far as Im concerned any Fianna Failer standing as an "Independent" should be done for elecoral fraud.

Will this be applied retrospectively also?

woodoo · 22-10-2011 4:58pm

Just wait till property gets off the floor again and watch aul Paddy go mad all over again

goose2005 · 22-10-2011 5:01pm

A nation of battered wives; we know it's wrong, but we go back to him because we cannot see any other way of existing.

Mike 1972 · 22-10-2011 5:01pm

My name is URL wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with him once being a member of FF.. like 10's of thousands of other ordinary and good people.

There may indeed be ordinary decent people who were once members of FF but they sure had appalingly poor judgment skills.

charlemont · 22-10-2011 5:07pm

kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »

Well I think many people see him as the best of a bad bunch.

Higgins is clearly much more capable to be president than the "Yes Man".

I'm voting MMG though.

charlemont · 22-10-2011 5:09pm

tonycascarino wrote: »

Michael D. Higgins will become the President. Not voting for him myself though.

I'll give him my second.

Indubitable · 22-10-2011 5:12pm

charlemont wrote: »

I'll give him my second.

I think Michael D. Higgins will win on transfers.

FloatingVoter · 22-10-2011 5:12pm

So what if Gallagher wins. We'll actually achieve putting a Fianna FAILer in a cage (albeit gilded) for seven years. It'll actually make him a millionaire for the very first time in his life as well. Then he can go on Dragons Den and not have to pretend anymore.

Seans_Username · 22-10-2011 5:16pm

for same reason I read the thread title in an eastern european accent...

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-10-2011 5:21pm

Mike 1972 wrote: »

There may indeed be ordinary decent people who were once members of FF but they sure had appalingly poor judgment skills.

Why did they have poor judgment skills? The ordinary member and voter didn't make the decisions that have us here. Thing's were going well under FF and people voted them back in 02 and 07 on the strength of that.

My name is URL · 22-10-2011 5:22pm

Far more troubling is the latest poll on the referendums

The Sunday Times’ poll also asks voters for their intentions on this week’s referenda – showing 87 per cent of voters in support of the referendum on judicial pay, compared to 8 per cent against and 5 per cent undecided.

76 per cent of voters in favour of the referendum on Oireachtas enquiries, while 18 per cent are opposed to it and 6 per cent undecided.

http://www.thejournal.ie/gallagher-extends-lead-in-latest-presidential-opinion-polls-260880-Oct2011/

Pride Fighter · 22-10-2011 5:28pm

My name is URL wrote: »

The way some people are going on about it; you'd swear that Gallager was the FF Government's puppet master for the last decade. There's nothing wrong with him once being a member of FF.. like 10's of thousands of other ordinary and good people were. People can change their allegiances and outlooks you know.. if they couldn't then FF would still be in power.

He was a member of the party's national executive until recently. January 2011, he launched the election campaigns of several economic traitors (FFers) and in his resignation letter it just says he resigned the executive and not the party, so he is still a party member.

His campaign manager is a Fianna Fail member, his activists on the ground are FF members. And being a member of FF is in my opinion a heinous crime. They ruined the country in the 80's with the giveaway election of 1977 and did it again in the past 10 years.

If he wins I'm leaving and going to a country where the population does not have collective amnesia.

Ash.J.Williams · 22-10-2011 5:35pm

cmon wake up people...he "left" ff just before the general election to save face, and not be humiliated, and now he snakes into the presidential election when the heat dies down.....Sean Gallagher = fianna fail ...end of story...

ThinkAboutIt · 22-10-2011 6:20pm

Pride Fighter wrote: »

He was a member of the party's national executive until recently. January 2011, he launched the election campaigns of several economic traitors (FFers) and in his resignation letter it just says he resigned the executive and not the party, so he is still a party member.

His campaign manager is a Fianna Fail member, his activists on the ground are FF members. And being a member of FF is in my opinion a heinous crime. They ruined the country in the 80's with the giveaway election of 1977 and did it again in the past 10 years.

If he wins I'm leaving and going to a country where the population does not have collective amnesia.

Well said. Can't believe he has 40%.

headmaster · 22-10-2011 6:27pm

Don't talk such rubbish. You know it and we all know it, FF are back, this is the new beginning and we've done it by coming in by the back door. M Martin has pulled off a great coup, this election is now sealed. I love it that we have now got the arrogance and chutsba back. Now, lets get ready to pull off the big one in a few years time, bring it on baby, bring it on.

tayto lover · 22-10-2011 6:36pm

headmaster wrote: »

Don't talk such rubbish. You know it and we all know it, FF are back, this is the new beginning and we've done it by coming in by the back door. M Martin has pulled off a great coup, this election is now sealed. I love it that we have now got the arrogance and chutsba back. Now, lets get ready to pull off the big one in a few years time, bring it on baby, bring it on.

He is a wee song to suit you perfectly cos it ain't going to happen for many a long year --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKn6h2x5IcY

whubee · 22-10-2011 6:42pm

awww title made me think it was gonna be a hot polish girl saying she needs help with english lessons at night.

and vat is the sexy-time
can you to show me

sgb · 22-10-2011 6:49pm

He was in FF, not the IRA, which is worse?

Trader1991 · 22-10-2011 6:52pm

sgb wrote: »

He was in FF, not the IRA, which is worse?

FF in my book!

ThinkAboutIt · 22-10-2011 6:54pm

sgb wrote: »

He was in FF, not the IRA, which is worse?

MMG does not have 40% of the vote.

The_Kew_Tour · 22-10-2011 6:56pm

sgb wrote: »

He was in FF, not the IRA, which is worse?

I despise the IRA, but at least they dont pretend to be something that they are not.

FF have left people with no jobs and are the cause of suicides in this country and don't for one second think they are not.

FF have brought this country to it's knees and I come from FF background where my granddad and granduncle were ministers albeit Junior.

Pride Fighter · 22-10-2011 7:03pm

Trader1991 wrote: »

FF in my book!

Mine too.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I despise the IRA, but at least they dont pretend to be something that they are not.

FF have left people with no jobs and are the cause of suicides in this country and don't for one second think they are not.

FF have brought this country to it's knees and I come from FF background where my granddad and granduncle were ministers albeit Junior.

Said exactly what I would, I fully agree.

Killer Pigeon · 22-10-2011 7:04pm

Pride Fighter wrote: »

If he wins I'm leaving and going to a country where the population does not have collective amnesia.

But isn't that characteristic of the Irish mentality? I mean FF were voted in again after the tyrant Haughey, and again after revelations about Ray Burke and Liam Lawlor. I really do not understand Irish people and sometimes I'm just embarrassed to call myself Irish sometimes. I can't wait until I get out of this country, it'll never change unless it undergoes some serious social engineering.

My name is URL · 22-10-2011 7:06pm

Pride Fighter wrote: »

His campaign manager is a Fianna Fail member, his activists on the ground are FF members. And being a member of FF is in my opinion a heinous crime.

I never once even considered voting for FF in the past, but to say that being a member of the party is a heinous crime is absolutely ridiculous. Ireland won't be long becoming a one party state at this rate. It's almost as if people want that to be the case

Killer Pigeon · 22-10-2011 7:07pm

My name is URL wrote: »

The way some people are going on about it; you'd swear that Gallager was the FF Government's puppet master for the last decade. There's nothing wrong with him once being a member of FF.. like 10's of thousands of other ordinary and good people were. People can change their allegiances and outlooks you know.. if they couldn't then FF would still be in power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN6Wq-82hj0

Killer Pigeon · 22-10-2011 7:10pm

sgb wrote: »

He was in FF, not the IRA, which is worse?

FF are just as bad as the IRA in my opinion, except less militarily inclined.

Killer Pigeon · 22-10-2011 7:13pm

My name is URL wrote: »

I never once even considered voting for FF in the past, but to say that being a member of the party is a heinous crime is absolutely ridiculous. Ireland won't be long becoming a one party state at this rate. It's almost as if people want that to be the case

Don't be so short sighted. FF should be eliminated altogether. We are one of the only states in Europe where the two largest parties are (or were) right wing parties. Ireland might as well have been called a one party state for the past 90 years.

Earthhorse · 22-10-2011 7:13pm

Pride Fighter wrote: »

He was a member of the party's national executive until recently. January 2011, he launched the election campaigns of several economic traitors (FFers) and in his resignation letter it just says he resigned the executive and not the party, so he is still a party member.

His campaign manager is a Fianna Fail member, his activists on the ground are FF members. And being a member of FF is in my opinion a heinous crime. They ruined the country in the 80's with the giveaway election of 1977 and did it again in the past 10 years.

If he wins I'm leaving and going to a country where the population does not have collective amnesia.

I agree with you for the most part and would like to wish all the best in your new life, off-world.

Mark200 · 22-10-2011 7:16pm

My name is URL wrote: »

The way some people are going on about it; you'd swear that Gallager was the FF Government's puppet master for the last decade. There's nothing wrong with him once being a member of FF.. like 10's of thousands of other ordinary and good people were. People can change their allegiances and outlooks you know.. if they couldn't then FF would still be in power.

In fairness now, being a member of the FF national executive is far different to being an ordinary member. But I agree with your overall point.

Lord TSC · 22-10-2011 7:26pm

For me, the presidental election is one of individuals, not parties. The individual doesn't have much power so his party won't gain much power either.

On an individual basis, SG hasn't actually done much to warrent some people acting like they are. He wasn't one of the people behind the farce that caused the Irish economical problems. If it was Bertie, Cowen or one of those who actually made the decisions that led to Ireland suffering, then I don't think he'd be getting anywhere.

There was many people in FF and many people voted for FF for decades. Yeah, the country fell drastically during their reign but do we blame the whole party and everyone ever involved with them? Or do we focus the blame on the specific individuals who made the decisions which actually caused the problems.

(Thats not to say he'll nessecarily be getting my vote, btw. Just that I can understand why people would vote for him).

droicead · 22-10-2011 7:31pm

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN6Wq-82hj0

this is probably the hardest i have laughed in ages after watching this video,thank you killer pigeon

Pride Fighter · 22-10-2011 7:31pm

Earthhorse wrote: »

I agree with you for the most part and would like to wish all the best in your new life, off-world.

Go raibh mile maith agat.

I hope he does not win though. But if he does, I am considering teaching English abroad.

I do not understand Irish people.

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