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Do you trust people in general?

  • 17-10-2011 4:10pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭


    Here is my motto. I will consider you basically untrustworthy until sufficient evidence exists to suggest you aren't likely to **** me over. Even then, I will remain on guard. You simpy can't trust people in general. This is common knowledge. I don't even trust my other half.

    What about yourself, do you wait until you are betrayed, or do you keep your guard all the time? The upside of my approach, is that I can always maintain a level up on other people should they try to blackmail me. You won't blackmail me. I am too perceptive and will gather enough evidence in the process to avoid situations where you could compromise myself.

    Proof, not words is best when it comes to gaining the upper hand over dishonest people/people in general. Your cornflakes aren't mixed with glass because they care about you, it's because they don't want a lawsuit. Were you ever burned in the past badly by someone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    I can always maintain a level up on other people should they try to blackmail me.

    Yeah, but me we know your IP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    I just don't trust the people in charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    What are you trying to say OP? Do you have some kind of ulterior motive for starting this thread? I'm onto you...

    <_<
    >_>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭AnamGlas


    I try to anyway.

    Then again, stirring the shít is second nature to our race, so you'd wanna be careful what you say to someone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Serious question: do you think you might be a little paranoid?

    You talk about people potentially blackmailing you.
    Not that you definitely think this is going to happen, but blackmail hardly occurs on a regular basis for most people.

    *Threatens to sell OP's IP address to the highest bidder if he doesn't do what I want*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    I'm very trusting. I think not trusting people is very tiring frankly. You have to check EVERYTHING for poison, check the car for a bomb before driving to work, make sure everything you own hasn't been replaced by an exact replica. Too much busywork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,847 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Why would you be with somebody you don't trust? Trust is the most important thing in any relationship and to me, honesty is the most important trait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    I don't trust myself!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Simon Adebisi


    Here is my motto. I will consider you basically untrustworthy until sufficient evidence exists to suggest you aren't likely to **** me over. Even then, I will remain on guard. You simpy can't trust people in general. This is common knowledge. I don't even trust my other half.

    What about yourself, do you wait until you are betrayed, or do you keep your guard all the time? The upside of my approach, is that I can always maintain a level up on other people should they try to blackmail me. You won't blackmail me. I am too perceptive and will gather enough evidence in the process to avoid situations where you could compromise myself.

    Proof, not words is best when it comes to gaining the upper hand over dishonest people/people in general. Your cornflakes aren't mixed with glass because they care about you, it's because they don't want a lawsuit. Were you ever burned in the past badly by someone?

    Lay off the weed man, its making you too paranoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭The Jammy dodger


    We dont trust anyone. Come off it, that is part of societies brainwashing. We only trust our own self image we have painted of that person and then when they fail us we say ''how could you of let me down when I trusted you so much''? no you didnt... you just trusted your false image of that person and painted them in glowing colors. In other words....you let yourself down.

    No man can be trusted but this doesnt mean we dont love them and care for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I trust the ones I could beat up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Contessa Raven


    I trust them to be idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    i trust people in tesco's but not in general


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    I believe in Harvey Dent.




























    He'd never be two-faced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    I will trust people to a certain extent, but you generally know the ones not to trust, out of my friends I have maybe 2 people I can rely on.

    Most others I wouldnt tell too much to..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Serious question: do you think you might be a little paranoid?

    You talk about people potentially blackmailing you.
    Not that you definitely think this is going to happen, but blackmail hardly occurs on a regular basis for most people.

    *Threatens to sell OP's IP address to the highest bidder if he doesn't do what I want*

    Maybe. Don't get me wrong, I am not some nutcase or anything. I have never intentionally harmed anyone in my entire life and that is the way it's going to stay. I have morals despite being a bit looksee. People aren't bad, it's just we're all human.

    Like myself for example. People(including myself) are flawed. It's really not our fault that our evolutionary process hasn't caught up with ideals. Maybe in 100,000 years? Even then, I still think we will be murdering people in faraway lands over nothing but misguided optimism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    I generally follow: do unto others, quid pro quo etc.

    But I can hold a grudge when crossed like a mofo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Rockn


    I'm not paranoid but I do get down on my hands and knees and have a quick check under the car each morning. I mean what is that cat up too under there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Nope, not in general. It does have to be earned, but even at that I have a tendency to keep my cards close to my chest. If trust is broken, theres no going back for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,835 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    OP you will find that if you give the benefit of the doubt to the other person you will be much happier. It really does work and you will have no need to be suspicious of anyone. You will never be happy looking over your shoulder all the time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    i trust people in tesco's but not in general

    Don't be so sure. The tills and your clubcard/debit/credit card could be storing enough data about you. Sure, the authentication process will ensure they cannot store your credit card number, but everything is fair game.

    This is why I am wary of ATM's. Not to mention skimming and all that, but it's quite easy to verify a path somebody has been taking around the country simply by analysing their magnetic card usage. If you want to remain hidden, dump that mobile phone and only use cash etc etc.

    I dislike the notion that the "the man" seeks to know about my business. As teenager like as that sounds. FWIW, use cash as much as humanly possible. Electronic transactions are a whole other kettle of fish. None of this requires a court order, you don't even have to be suspected of the commission of a crime!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    my bull**** detector is pretty good world class so yes, depends on the situation and background info though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Saila wrote: »
    my bull**** detector is pretty good world class so yes, depends on the situation and background info though


    "Develop a built-in bull**** detector." - Ernest Hemingway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I trust no-one, and sleep with one eye open and a gun under my pillow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭IcedOut


    I dnot have to trust anyone because i just tell them lies anyway lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    IRL I'm very trusty. On boards, not so much...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    No not in the slightest. I've seen the worst kind of betrayal perpetrated on my parents by blood relatives on both sides of the family. People they were close to for over 50 years.

    After that, I believe you can never fully trust anyone but yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Agricola wrote: »
    No not in the slightest. I've seen the worst kind of betrayal perpetrated on my parents by blood relatives on both sides of the family. People they were close to for over 50 years.

    After that, I believe you can never fully trust anyone but yourself.

    I agree 100%. There are some family members I would not trust with a cup of tea, much less anything else. Just because you live in close proximity to someone, does not mean you actually know them.

    This comes to mind after reading your post: Joesph Heller: 'Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭mapaco


    i dont trust or depend on anyone-nature of the beast, we're all human and prone to selfishness. people only do things to benefit themselves.

    dont get me wrong i lose no sleep over this and dont give it much thought-i just believe nobody is trustworthy-i have yet to be proven wrong.

    generally if something doesn't involve a person then they dont care about it.

    its like Joeys theory in Friends-there is no such thing as a completely selfless act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Don't be so sure. The tills and your clubcard/debit/credit card could be storing enough data about you. Sure, the authentication process will ensure they cannot store your credit card number, but everything is fair game.

    This is why I am wary of ATM's. Not to mention skimming and all that, but it's quite easy to verify a path somebody has been taking around the country simply by analysing their magnetic card usage. If you want to remain hidden, dump that mobile phone and only use cash etc etc.

    I dislike the notion that the "the man" seeks to know about my business. As teenager like as that sounds. FWIW, use cash as much as humanly possible. Electronic transactions are a whole other kettle of fish. None of this requires a court order, you don't even have to be suspected of the commission of a crime!

    who told you and do you know where I am.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    who told you and do you know where I am.

    Look at your receipt next time. Any data on that is most likely logged in a database. Somewhere. I don't know who you are, you seem a bit paranoid there;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭csi vegas


    There are some family members I would not trust with a cup of tea, much less anything else. Just because you live in close proximity to someone, does not mean you actually know them.

    I have heard: 'you might live in the same house as your neighbour but you don't live in your neighbour's house'...

    *now thinks of the song which goes "you look at your neighbour thinking what a guy, because he's got a 9-5, but I guess that you don't realise he stalks you while you sleep at night!"*
    And in another twist of irony "bet you're lookin at the homeless guy, think he's probably gonna start a fight!"
    Never judge a book by it's cover? Damn right I will!

    Much support for TheyKnowMyIP and credit for the general suspicion.
    We were alike in so many ways :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭csi vegas


    i trust people in tesco's but not in general

    Don't be so sure

    :) Funny. Funny people :) Maked me smile


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I neither trust nor like people


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I do trust people, I think. I can't imagine how tiring it would be waiting for people to earn your trust. I mean, what would they have to do? At what point would you say, "Yeah okay, I trust him/her now"? I think life is too short for that.

    I guess I trust people until they give me a reason not to. If someone loses my trust, that is it though. Broken trust is like a broken mirror, you'll always be able to see the cracks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Novella wrote: »
    I do trust people, I think. I can't imagine how tiring it would be waiting for people to earn your trust. I mean, what would they have to do? At what point would you say, "Yeah okay, I trust him/her now"? I think life is too short for that.

    I guess I trust people until they give me a reason not to. If someone loses my trust, that is it though. Broken trust is like a broken mirror, you'll always be able to see the cracks.

    No it isnt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭_Beau_


    I trust everyone.

    My motto is - if people fook me over, I can handle it, and that's the bottom line.

    More often than not, people don't break my trust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭amacca


    I trusts no-one I tells ya..no one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    _Beau_ wrote: »
    I trust everyone.

    My motto is - if people fook me over, I can handle it, and that's the bottom line.

    More often than not, people don't break my trust.

    Ive just said up a charity fund for a mission to Somalia that Im running next March.

    Can you donate some money into my.....er the charity bank account?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Yep i tend to trust people pretty easily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    I always get an intuition as to who I can trust, it has never let me down, or has it?

    As I am sure I met people who I decided not to trust and just maybe they were very trust worthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    _Beau_ wrote: »
    I trust everyone.

    My motto is - if people fook me over, I can handle it, and that's the bottom line.

    More often than not, people don't break my trust.

    I'm a nigerian fund manager. PM me your bank account details and cc number


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    orourkeda wrote: »
    No it isnt.

    It is, in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭_Beau_


    orourkeda wrote: »

    I'm a nigerian fund manager. PM me your bank account details and cc number


    Funny.

    I'll rephrase it so, I do try to extend my trust to most people, depending on the context, obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭csi vegas


    Overall I am wary of people who become over-friendly with me/others too soon after meeting. Saw it in school - massive b!tch fighting & general mud-slinging soon after. Work - "can I give you a lift home? Let me pay for that coffee!" - like on first day!
    And latent dirt digging minced in (as deliberate confusion) such as:
    "I've worked here x-years and I love it and you'll love it here too! How did you hear about this job? My sister applied and heard nothing back! But you're probably better qualified for it anyway. Are you related to so-and-so in the office?", immediately followed with "oh, what lovely nail polish on you! Better go now, do some work, cut the chat before we ALL get sacked!"

    I liken over friendliness to a one night stand - f**k me tonight, f**k me over tomorrow! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    I would say that I do not trust people as a matter of fact. I have been burned a few times before so I have good cause too. It doesn't cause me to be paranoid or anything but it does make me examine peoples motives for their actions sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    you ever watch casino royale?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭talkinyite


    Trust no-one, in the end everyone will **** you over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭_Beau_


    The reality is that we all trust people every day without realising it.

    You trusted this site with your e-mail address.

    You trust FB with your personal details.

    Should you get a taxi, you trust that the driver will not crash the car.

    When you eat out, you trust that the restaurant meets health and safety guidelines.

    If you drink tap water you trust that it is clean.

    When you fill your oil tank, you trust that they have put the quantity in that you requested.

    When you pay your electricity bill, you trust that the figures are accurate.

    So for all of you who claim not to trust anyone, I hate to burst your bubble, but, you do - we all do.


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