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An honest non biased news agency.

  • 17-10-2011 11:44am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭


    Is there an honest source of information for all news worldwide.A news station with no government agenda?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    FOX NEWS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    No. News corporations are either government-funded, or out to make a profit. If the former, it's pretty clear they're not free of bias. If the latter, they have to tell people what they want to hear, so that people will watch, so that they can sell advertisement space.

    Besides, truth is subjective.

    Besides, yore ma is subjective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    Is there an honest source of information for all news worldwide.A news station with no government agenda?

    There's a man down the pub who tells me all the news. Like Bruce Lee, right? His body was so pure an aspirin killed him. Straight up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Russia today and Euronews are not too bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Reuters maybe...or maybe they're just not biased in areas where I'd care.
    Used to think the BBC were fair and unbiased but that mask has slipped somehwta in recent years...they do tend toward objectivity but inevitably contain some nationalistic bias (which is understandable I suppose)...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Russia today and Euronews are not too bad


    I'd second that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    The London Independent prides itself of being free from political agenda.

    Whether you choose to believe it or not is another thing. It's primarily a left wing newspaper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    The Independent prides itself of being free from political agenda.

    Whether you choose to believe it or not is another thing. It's primarily a left wing newspaper.

    The London Independent?

    The Irish Independent couldn't make a claim like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    If you want to get a job done usually you'd seek out a few quotes and choose the one that seems to you the most reasonable. Reasonable doesn't have to the cheapest and likewise with news reporting you have to apply your own reasoning when accepting news as truthful.

    Extraordinary events like natural disasters tend to be reported without much bias but in all other human matters the listener must be wary.

    A lot of what is presented as news in Irish media isn't really news, try to remember what was the big story last monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    orourkeda wrote: »
    The London Independent?

    The Irish Independent couldn't make a claim like that.

    The London Independent yes. Sorry I wasn't clearer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    sky sports news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    The London Independent yes. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

    The fact that some Russian oligarch owns it makes me think that's it not un-biased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    The English Independent (the Irish one's a misnomer), BBC and Al-Jazeera. That's a good mix right there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    There isn't one. News agencies these days seem to feel the need to generate the news as well as report on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    The local shop/post office.

    Thats where i get all my news from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    No. but if you watch them all bar Fox news you'll get the truth between them.

    Also a Noam Chomsky research tip, read the business press, they are always more honest.

    "Probably less fear of their readership getting out of hand"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I just depend on AH for all my news. It's biased for all sides equally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    Reuters and Associated Press are considered the most neutral "X has happened in Y" sources. Unsurprisingly ask most people what they want from a news source and what they want is opinion/analysis that they agree with which is why Fox is so successful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    Your local taxi driver


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭FinnLizzy


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Russia today and Euronews are not too bad

    Russia today pretty much worships Vlad Putin! They're like the Anti-Fox News, but that's not a good thing.
    Euronews and France 24 are very good at reporting the less reported. Such as civil war in countries that don't have oil.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    There are none. Everyone has an agenda/point of view and will try push it. It's human nature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Russia today is fairly balanced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I used to think that Channel 4 was where you went for objective news . Cant remember why and havent watched it in ages so dont know if I would still feel the same . .

    That said, there is no real way of making the news objective . . As stated there are too many vested interests, whoever owns the station.

    The only way I can think of off the top of my head is that you would have a newspaper that prints the facts of a story (ie - non debatable facts) and then have differant viewpoints on the interpretation of these facts (or something on those lines).

    I know its not very practical, but there are plenty of big stories that have facts that can be interpreted differantly -
    • The bailout of the banks
    • The cuts that are needed - where should they come from ?
    • Party politics or political culture
    • Debt "forgiveness" etc
    If there was ever a newspaper or medium being setup with objective news stories with its goal, I would love to be a part of it . . I hate the way that people have to be branded Right or left wing or branded anything . . I believe that there is always vested interests and motives driving the news, but that it can be improved with some ingenuity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    FinnLizzy wrote: »
    Russia today pretty much worships Vlad Putin! They're like the Anti-Fox News, but that's not a good thing.
    Euronews and France 24 are very good at reporting the less reported. Such as civil war in countries that don't have oil.

    RT certainly provides a different perspective if nothing else. Not sure about the putin worshipping though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    FOX NEWS ENTERTAINMENT

    fyp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭Hayte


    Propublica.org and CSPAN.org are decent. Independent and non profit eliminates a certain level of monied interest but as with all news you should consume it from as many sources as possible and then compare/contrast the content and the agenda of the source.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭BigAl81


    I find AlJazeera pretty good, some excellent documentaries.
    http://english.aljazeera.net/

    But as someone said above, take a few sources (BBC/Boards etc) and make up your own mind!

    Go Team!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    I like to have a look at both the Daily Mail and the Guardian's reports on particular stories, and assume the truth lies in the middle of their accounts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    RussiaToday and AlJazeera seems good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭Peep O'Day


    I find An Phoblacht to be the most unbiased source of information in this country...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭jacksprat


    Ron Burgundy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    National station have to be balanced and unbiased by law.

    So RTE, BBC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit



    Independently biased is still biased. Some of the 'journalists' there are shameful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    The Connaught Tribune

    FTW...

    :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    biko wrote: »
    RussiaToday and AlJazeera seems good.

    Agree, I have seen quite a few excellent reports/documentaries from Al-Jazeera in the last couple of weeks. It's refreshing not watching the usually pro-western media bias/ignorance that's out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    the usually pro-western media bias/ignorance that's out there.

    Do i detect a subtle dig at the Connaught Tribune?

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭sgb


    On the radio format I prefer BBC World Service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭AnamGlas


    I'd say Russia Today and AlJazeera, maybe Euronews, it's better to have a wider scope of all the stories covered.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Russia Today is a 100% government controlled, state-run Russian media outlet and promotes the Russian government's viewpoint.
    So it is seriously biased.

    I lean towards Aljazeera and Channel4 news.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 177 ✭✭LaFlammeRouge


    I can't believe people think Russia Today is balanced. It's incredibly biased.

    I watch Sky/RTE News/AlJazeera/BBC and read whatever google news throws up. Don't know about Euronews, its very dull I don't even bother with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,868 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    I allways watch only Russian news now.

    It was quite amazing to see difference between western news agencies and Russian ones when georgian conflict broke out.

    How YouTube was sensored and any video which was actuolly showing proper real footage was taken down and replaced with more bull****... When the girl was taken of air, when she said that Georgian troops were attacking and Russian soldiers were helping them...

    Sorry, but western news agencies have more propaganda now then soviet Russia had back then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭craggles


    Guardian is a bit left leaning but not really biased much, best bet is to use multiple news sources and formulate your own opinion from there.

    Except anything Murdoch. Or the daily mail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    Al Jazeera is actually a good news channel, it just reports the other side of the usual conflicts.

    But it shows images that no news would show in the west, like the actual things that happen in war, like torn apart bodies, dead children, it can be quite shocking, but now all we get is the cleaned up english version on SKY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    If you want the truth in news you must make it yourself these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Naomi00


    Channel 4?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭kieran26


    News-Beat on 2fm
    Its where i get my news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭wingsof daun


    Don't watch Al-Jazeera for World news. This Qatari based outlet has gone from giving completely unbiased reports in the Iraq war to biased/false reports in the Libyan war. If you can link yourself to Syrian tv then you may get the truth, even then maybe not. All news channels are propaganda lying machines if they are reporting on Libya. The Green square celebration from Tripoli a while back was taken from a movie set in Qatar, of course someone who lives in the western World would of had no idea. The Libyan Free Press, Mathaba (Independent news) and the Daily Libyan Post give reports from the other side that you will not get in any western media outlet.
    Strange times when it is difficult to believe a news report.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Why are people so quick to believe Russian propaganda as opposed to the western version? Propaganda is the same the world over. Russia Today is easily one of the most biased and least objective news stations I've ever seen.


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