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Should I pay my bank debt?

  • 17-10-2011 9:44am
    #1
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    Pay them it is your fault after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ...its not really my fault.
    Erm... yes it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Do you still have money in the savings account and can you access it?

    If so, just transfer the money back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭busyliving


    Go into the bank and try and negotiate a reduction in the fee


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    donalg1 wrote: »
    Pay them it is your fault after all.

    But i got nothing for the money i owe.. Its an exceptionally unfair charge every week. I told them i was leaving the country for years aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    But i got nothing for the money i owe..
    Yes you did. You got an overdraft facility on your current account.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Yes you did. You got an overdraft facility on your current account.

    Technically yes. Love to see your reactions to being charged 10 euro a week while not in the country because of a savings account you simply forgot about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    If a property developer was on saying this you'd be telling him to go fcuk himself.

    Pay your debt, you obviously have the money in your savings!

    I'd love to simply forgot about my mortgage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Technically yes. Love to see your reactions to being charged 10 euro a week while not in the country because of a savings account you simply forgot about.
    Unfortunately, I don't have that much money that I can afford to gallivant halfway around the world whilst forgetting about a bank account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.

    Why isn't it your fault?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    your paying everyone elses so you might aswell pay your own too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    Aids, bleeding testicles and unknown bank charges.

    My friend, you have had a tough year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    if you racked up debt through your own fault then pay. That said it is a bank and they ruined the country so tell them to piss off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    That said it is a bank and they ruined the country so tell them to piss off

    Yea good plan, let him leave the country and add to the debts that the tax payer has to cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    OP, did you previously work in a bank before you went travelling?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Let the Mammy pay it for you, she opened it after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.

    if it goes to court and this works i think everyone is gonna try it. from ordinary joe soaps to the previously mentioned property developers.

    pity it wont. just ring them and sort something out. if you get in touch with them and you come to an agreement they are ok about it. dont pay and you get screwed. you'll go to court end up having to pay back what you owe, your own legal fees and the bank legal fees.

    still though you forgot about it so just forget about it again and it should all go away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    if you racked up debt through your own fault then pay. That said it is a bank and they ruined the country so tell them to piss off

    but its your bank and money :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    this kind of situation occurred to me when I was leaving the country so I closed my savings account and thus ceasing the standing order from the current account - I wanted to get my savings out of the country either way hence the thought occurred to me

    tbh, I would say it is your fault, op, but I find it very difficult to evoke any sympathy for the bank. pay back the over drawn amount that you owe, that was never yours to begin with.

    as for the charges, tell them to go swing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Saila wrote: »
    but its your bank and money :confused:

    you have just caused me a morale dilemma I'm off to reflect on my views


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    Technically yes. Love to see your reactions to being charged 10 euro a week while not in the country because of a savings account you simply forgot about.

    Well if this is the case then fúck them, if you don't care about the credit rating just don't pay it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I love this "it wasnt my fault coz i forgot about it" business..yes it is your bloody fault.."forget" about anything to do with bank charges at your peril.

    And why didnt somebody open the heaps of letter they no doubt sent before the solicitors letter?

    I hear something similar in my job quiet a bit "Yeah i went travelling and forget to return these books..its not my fault i was *away* like"...right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Pay your fcuking debt! 'Forgetting' that you owed money is no excuse for deciding that you now don't feel like fulfilling the agreement that you're contractually bound to fulfill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,674 ✭✭✭DirtyBollox


    i'll give you an example of forgetting something.

    i broke up with my GF and moved out of the house we had together. i forgot my name was on the gas bill and she never mentioned the bills coming in the door. the company got my parents address and set me the final bill. as i forgot about it i decided to fight them tooth and nail to prevent myself from having to pay this company who makes money all year whilst i dont.

    nah i'm only kidding. i realised that it was mistake and i payed the damn bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.

    If it went to court, don't use this as your opening statement.

    Pay up, or negotiate something with the bank to pay back in installments or something. It is your fault. Deal with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Can people stop telling him to negotiate something. He has the money to pay for it in his savings account. It's his fcuk up, he should deal with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    I blame your mam.

    If she hadn't opened the letter then we wouldn't know about the problem and it therefore wouldn't have existed.

    Get her to pay up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?


    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.

    Surely you should have a better handle on you finances.

    A poor credit rating will come back to haunt you. Theres nothing surer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭westies4ever


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.


    pretty sure this is a wind up - its a standing order right? 'implied limits' only apply to direct debits - for a standing order if the money isnt there it isnt paid - a fee will be charged - how much depends on the bank. Once three standing orders in a row fail the bank will automatically cancel it. So say you went overdrawn by maybe €40 or so - they will half heartedly pursue and then write it off.

    It takes the best part of a year to get to the legal stage as well - they would have tried to contact you loads of times - other letters? Phone messages?

    I call shenanigans.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    What exactly are you being charged for? How does this make any sense? In any other kind of business if you tried to buy something they would just say 'no, you don't have any money' but in banking even when that 'buying something' is just hypothetically moving imaginary money from one account to another account in the same bank they'll go ahead and let it happen and then charge you for it. Lunacy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.

    In After Hours?

    I think you've forgotten more than you're letting on :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    I take it you are challenging the extra charges and not the overdraft itself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.

    I would not worry about the credit rating, it's means jack **** at the moment.
    How much are the fees? contact the manager and try negotiate a reduction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.


    I'll pay it for ya. Sure we all will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    OP I like people like you, because banks make their money from you, meaning my charges are lower.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    My bank a/c overdrew while I was abroad. Only by E40 but I had every intention of clearing the overdraft when I got back. So, once back on Irish soil, I toddled into the bank to sort it out and they had closed my account. :confused: It had only been a few months. I was like "Er, I'm here to pay that, can you reopen it?" No was the answer. Weird. I had every intention of rectifying the manner. Why would the bank not want their money paid back?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    People dont "forget" about savings accounts they do however choose to ignore their responsibilities.

    Pay the bill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    Ring them up and say that you want to transfer all monies in your saving account back to your current account. But you want them to cancel the fees incurred.

    If they start getting arsey, request a statement of all fees charged from date of opening account and to what they relate to. Many banks have been found to be overcharging for years so they may think it's too much hassleand waiver the current fees.

    As long as you leave that money in your savings (it isn't yours) then let them work for the fees they charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭suitseir


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.


    Talk to them. Don't ignore it. Just think of the credit ratings and sometime in the future believe it or not, you may need this financial institution again. Never say never!

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    if you racked up debt through your own fault then pay. That said it is a bank and they ruined the country so tell them to piss off

    :rolleyes:
    The people of this country ruined this country!


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think this threat shows how most people don't read the opening post. Racking up debt? Fuk off. Go into the bank? Fuk off. I live and work in Vietnam. Didn't you see the letters? Fuk off. I live in Vietnam.

    Anyone who thinks a savings account should ruin a credit rating simply because of forgetting about it.. Fuk off. If it happened anyone here, you'd be rightly pissed off.

    My only debt is bank charges because of a savings account. Im not a freeloader. I paid of my debt before, I made it out of the country, I work in another country. I don't deserve this effort because i was I set up a savings account a year before leaving the place. Banks shouldnt kill your current account by putting money in a savings account.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think this threat shows how most people don't read the opening post. Racking up debt? Fuk off. Go into the bank? Fuk off. I live and work in Vietnam. Didn't you see the letters? Fuk off. I live in Vietnam.

    Anyone who thinks a savings account should ruin a credit rating simply because of forgetting about it.. Fuk off. If it happened anyone here, you'd be rightly pissed off.

    My only debt is bank charges because of a savings account. Im not a freeloader. I paid of my debt before, I made it out of the country, I work in another country. I don't deserve this effort because i was I set up a savings account a year before leaving the place. Banks shouldnt kill your current account by putting money in a savings account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Mam opened a solicitors letter for me there and im pretty pissed off.. I forgot about my savings account transferring money every month. Its landed my current ac into a big minus and I've been charged a fortune in fees. Pretty unfortunate thing for me to forget but still feel like its not really my fault.
    Surely a savings account with same bank shouldn't fuk you over?

    Option A: Pay back massive fees
    Option B: Fuk them and ruin my credit rating for 5 years which i have absolutely no use for.

    Its a moral decision which is why i posted it here.

    You posted on AH for assitance making a morally important decision?


    *falls off chair laughing

    [serious mode] Pay it back if you can afford to, or at the very least call the bank, explain that you need the money for career progressio or make up some bull****, and see will they mitigate some of the cost. They may help you out given it was a genuine lapse on your part. Worth a shot however unlikely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I think this threat shows how most people don't read the opening post. Racking up debt? Fuk off. Go into the bank? Fuk off. I live and work in Vietnam. Didn't you see the letters? Fuk off. I live in Vietnam.

    Anyone who thinks a savings account should ruin a credit rating simply because of forgetting about it.. Fuk off. If it happened anyone here, you'd be rightly pissed off.

    My only debt is bank charges because of a savings account. Im not a freeloader. I paid of my debt before, I made it out of the country, I work in another country. I don't deserve this effort because i was I set up a savings account a year before leaving the place. Banks shouldnt kill your current account by putting money in a savings account.



    Ring the bank? Fuk off! Send a letter to the bank? Fuk off! Get mammy to call in/call the bank? Fuk off! Be honest would ya ffs, it's your fault sort your **** out!


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nice response. Did i blame you for anything? I will send the letters, I will ring the bank. I only found out yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Amzie


    I think this threat shows how most people don't read the opening post. Racking up debt? Fuk off. Go into the bank? Fuk off. I live and work in Vietnam. Didn't you see the letters? Fuk off. I live in Vietnam.

    Anyone who thinks a savings account should ruin a credit rating simply because of forgetting about it.. Fuk off. If it happened anyone here, you'd be rightly pissed off.

    My only debt is bank charges because of a savings account. Im not a freeloader. I paid of my debt before, I made it out of the country, I work in another country. I don't deserve this effort because i was I set up a savings account a year before leaving the place. Banks shouldnt kill your current account by putting money in a savings account.

    Threat you mean thread right?? :p Just messing with you!! Definitely pay what you owe and learn from this crappy experience. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    The point is it's not up to the bank to babysit your accounts. They didn't know you left the country either.

    It's not clear if the main account is just emptied or if it's in overdraft.

    It was a mistake. Forgetting about something isn't much of a defence with stuff like this. But the bank might be willing to cut some of the fees as a gesture of goodwill. They aren't obligated to do it but if you talk reasonably to them they might.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    I think this threat shows how most people don't read the opening post. Racking up debt? Fuk off. Go into the bank? Fuk off. I live and work in Vietnam. Didn't you see the letters? Fuk off. I live in Vietnam.

    Anyone who thinks a savings account should ruin a credit rating simply because of forgetting about it.. Fuk off. If it happened anyone here, you'd be rightly pissed off.

    My only debt is bank charges because of a savings account. Im not a freeloader. I paid of my debt before, I made it out of the country, I work in another country. I don't deserve this effort because i was I set up a savings account a year before leaving the place. Banks shouldnt kill your current account by putting money in a savings account.

    Nice attitude, I hate the banks, but i hope they screw you to the wall. You messed up, You deal with it. You owe the money, it is your responsibility. And nothing anyone says here will change that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Technically yes. Love to see your reactions to being charged 10 euro a week while not in the country because of a savings account you simply forgot about.

    I forgot, so therefore it's not my fault?
    Of course it's your fúcking fault!
    Or to put it another way, who's fault do you think it is, that you agreed to pay a contracted amount money into your savings but then you fúcked off to vietnam and you promptly didn't bother to honour your contract?:confused:


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Lennox Shy Cobble


    Banks shouldnt kill your current account by putting money in a savings account.
    Except when you explicitly instructed them to


    Ring up the bank and explain you moved country and can they waive some of the charges
    if you are nice about it they might


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