breathalyzer - learner level unless full licence on you

starfish12

Cormic wrote: »

No one has had one yet vetstu so I will oblige

Why can't we have credit card licences like the US do. It is stupid not to have them !!!!!111one!

Also why does our licence have to be pink. Can it not be a manly black colour with a picture of a car on the back !!!!!one11!!

my point was that we will have credit card licences from next year, so not having your licence on your person when stopped should be less of an issue

seamus

savagecabbages wrote: »

EDIT: I got my levels messed up, how does 0.08% compare to 50mg?
I may have made a clown of myself

Yeah, it can get a bit messy because breath content is measured in microgrammes and has different exact figures.

50mg of alcohol per litre blood gives a blood alcohol content of roughly 0.05%

Capt'n Midnight

What are the penalties for not carrying a license ?
and it's been an offence not to carry it since at least 1994, which is before some licence holders were born !

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1994/en/act/pub/0007/sec0025.html

“40.—(1) (a) A member of the Garda Síochána may demand, of a person driving in a public place a mechanically propelled vehicle or accompanying pursuant to regulations under this Act the holder of a provisional licence while such holder is driving in a public place a mechanically propelled vehicle, the production to him of a driving licence then having effect and licensing the said person to drive the vehicle, and if the person refuses or fails so to produce the licence there and then, he shall be guilty of an offence.

(b) Where a person of whom the production of a driving licence is demanded under this section refuses or fails to produce the licence there and then, a member of the Garda Síochána may require the person to produce within 10 days after the date of the said requirement the licence in person to a member of the Garda Síochána at a Garda Síochána station to be named by the person at the time of the requirement and, if the person refuses or fails so to produce the licence, he shall be guilty of an offence.

...
(4) A member of the Garda Síochána may arrest without warrant—

(a) a person who pursuant to this section produces a driving licence to the member but refuses or fails to permit the member to read it, or

(b) a person who, when his name and address is lawfully demanded of him by the member under this section, refuses or fails to give to the member his name and address or gives to the member a name or address which the member reasonably believes to be false.

CiniO

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

What are the penalties for not carrying a license ?
and it's been an offence not to carry it since at least 1994, which is before some licence holders were born !

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1994/en/act/pub/0007/sec0025.html

I don't think you are right.

Act is indeed from 1994, but I remember when I moved to Ireland in 2004, I bought a booklet with rules of the road issued in 1997 and is stated that you don't need to carry your licence with you.

When you click on a button "Legislation Directory Entry" on the top of line you provided, you can see that article 25 quoted by you, entered in force way later than 1994.

challengemaster

The rules of the road is NOT the equivalent to the irish statute book. The irish statute book is the law in it's official form, the ROTR is just an interpretation provided by the RSA that the common person can read easily. It is not law, or does not hold any legal bearings.

CiniO

challengemaster wrote: »

The rules of the road is NOT the equivalent to the irish statute book. The irish statute book is the law in it's official form, the ROTR is just an interpretation provided by the RSA that the common person can read easily. It is not law, or does not hold any legal bearings.

ROTR is not equivalent to Irish statute book, but anyway information provided in it should be correct (even we know there's few examples where there are obvious mistakes).

Anyway - fact that some legislation is available on irish statute book, doesn't mean that legislation is in force.
Perfect example is a "Road traffic act 2010" published in 2010 which includes all new regulations about new alcohol limits, and we all know, that they are not in force yet, even the act was already published over a year ago.

pudzey101

i still dont know what the fuss is lads i woudnt get behind the wheel if i even had so much of a sip of alcohol wish everyone else was the same i mean whats the point of risking your own life + more importantly someone elses?

challengemaster

pudzey101 wrote: »

i still dont know what the fuss is lads i woudnt get behind the wheel if i even had so much of a sip of alcohol wish everyone else was the same i mean whats the point of risking your own life + more importantly someone elses?

I reckon at this stage it's more about the morning after, or atleast for the younger generations. The older ones seem to still have no issues with drink driving, and it's clear the gardai turn a blind eye to it in most cases

Capt'n Midnight

challengemaster wrote: »

I reckon at this stage it's more about the morning after, or atleast for the younger generations. The older ones seem to still have no issues with drink driving, and it's clear the gardai turn a blind eye to it in most cases

From what I've heard when they tested those driving back the morning after oxygen one in four failed the test.

challengemaster

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

From what I've heard when they tested those driving back the morning after oxygen one in four failed the test.

I'd well believe that, I was at it... the way some people were for the most of the weekend, and a lot stayed drinking through the last night too... :rolleyes: