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Gallagher : Good businessman or snout seeking trough

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    The irony of your last sentence amuses me. You have spent the last week spoofing about SG being a greasy FF mop and other such gems and then you say you won't vote for a spoofer!!! Are you serious?

    Are you sure you aren't a campaign worker ???

    Sorry to hear of his drop in popularity .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    raymon wrote: »
    Are you sure you aren't a campaign worker ???

    Sorry to hear of his drop in popularity .

    Ah, but I am not a Gallagher supporter either and just want to see him been given a fair shake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Wolff


    Sean Gallagher has every right to call smarthomes "Ireland’s fastest growing technology company."

    It is a quote from the Sunday Tribune after all

    The only problem is its 6 years old now -

    "What began with the musings of two frustrated house buyers has blossomed into Ireland’s fastest growing technology company"

    Sunday Tribune, 30.11.2005


    Bloody spoofer !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Wolff wrote: »
    Sean Gallagher has every right to call smarthomes "Ireland’s fastest growing technology company."

    It is a quote from the Sunday Tribune after all

    The only problem is its 6 years old now -

    "What began with the musings of two frustrated house buyers has blossomed into Ireland’s fastest growing technology company"

    Sunday Tribune, 30.11.2005


    Bloody spoofer !

    I don't believe anything he says


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Wolff wrote: »
    Sean Gallagher has every right to call smarthomes "Ireland’s fastest growing technology company."

    It is a quote from the Sunday Tribune after all

    The only problem is its 6 years old now -

    "What began with the musings of two frustrated house buyers has blossomed into Ireland’s fastest growing technology company"

    Sunday Tribune, 30.11.2005


    Bloody spoofer !

    Another Turkey from the Den running for President! :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    raymon wrote: »
    I don't believe anything he says

    There is a market for what his company sells and there is no reason to believe he does not do that honestly and ethically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭swampgas


    CDfm wrote: »
    There is a market for what his company sells and there is no reason to believe he does not do that honestly and ethically.

    Well, the way he tried to dodge repaying the 20k development loan by renaming his company doesn't sound very ethical to me. Barely legal maybe, but not honest and ethical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    CDfm wrote: »
    There is a market for what his company sells and there is no reason to believe he does not do that honestly and ethically.

    You are joking ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    raymon wrote: »
    You are joking ???

    There is a line that you must be very careful not to cross raymon.

    Thats the line that separates your one man crusade against SG and things that could potentially get this website in legal difficulties.

    If you want to insinuate that SG has not been above board in his business dealings, then you better have some really good proof and be prepared to stand over it

    Cheers

    DrG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭queensinead


    There is nothing wrong with Gallagher being a member of Fianna Fail

    But it is not correct to say, as one poster did, that he "did not sit on boards"

    He was appointed to Fas by Mary Coughlan

    He was CEO of the Louth Enterprise Board, yet was able at another date to borrow money as a businessman from this board. Nothing wrong with that, but it is a far cry from "not sitting on boards"

    He seemed to need a lot of grants to keep his business viable

    There is a photo of him with Bertie Ahern and Dermot Aherne launching his Smarthomes business

    Ironically the logo behind them in the photo says: "Well Connected"

    He has admitted being in the Galway Tent.

    This is not "grassroots" stuff.

    And it amazes me that the media ask such general questions off him, instead of quizzing him on the details like they quizzed other candidates.

    I think generally he seems a nice guy and would do well. But it would be better if he dealt with this stuff


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Dr Galen wrote: »
    There is a line that you must be very careful not to cross raymon.

    Thats the line that separates your one man crusade against SG and things that could potentially get this website in legal difficulties.

    If you want to insinuate that SG has not been above board in his business dealings, then you better have some really good proof and be prepared to stand over it

    Cheers

    DrG

    My "You are joking" was referring to the "there is a market for what his company sells ".

    I have not insinuated that he is dodgy in business.

    I do believe he has not been truthful in his campaign and has misrepresented his success on his website

    I don't believe I have said anything that is not true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    raymon wrote: »
    My "You are joking" was referring to the "there is a market for what his company sells ".
    If there is a market for what he sells, then it's not there at the price which he can manage to provide it. Otherwise his company wouldn't be making whopping losses and shedding staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    raymon wrote: »
    My "You are joking" was referring to the "there is a market for what his company sells ".

    I have not insinuated that he is dodgy in business.

    I do believe he has not been truthful in his campaign and has misrepresented his success on his website

    I don't believe I have said anything that is not true

    Brilliant

    That's why I used the word "if"

    You've clarified and now we're all good

    Cheers

    DrG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭Ald


    I don't get what the deal is with saying SG had dodgy dealings.

    When a county enterprise board takes legal proceedings against you over money you haven't paid over many years and in that same time you have renamed your company and then when you finally settle you don't pay the amount in full, or as SG says "paid almost all", I would have no issue in saying SG is not above board in his business dealings.*

    *I am happy to say that this is my own opinion based on my interpretation of media coverage and not necessarily that of boards.ie or any of its contributors or moderators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    If there is a market for what he sells, then it's not there at the price which he can manage to provide it. Otherwise his company wouldn't be making whopping losses and shedding staff.

    Construction crash???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    He is not in Smarthomes any more

    His new business is quite interesting ... please read

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/1020/1224306126915.html

    Because of an earlier warning I will refuse to comment on this story.

    however if I was a businessman I wouldnt like him as a partner.

    As a citizen i would not like him to be my president


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    raymon wrote: »
    Because of an earlier warning I will refuse to comment on this story.

    however if I was a businessman I wouldnt like him as a partner.

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    He seems to have a finger in every pie. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he sold Dana the tyres for her car.:):):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    He seems to have a finger in every pie. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he sold Dana the tyres for her car.:):):)

    And its rumoured he told David Norris to leave some letters on the Senate photocopier that they would be safe there and go for a pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    raymon wrote: »

    Because of an earlier warning I will refuse to comment on this story.
    Fair enough
    raymon wrote: »

    however if I was a businessman I wouldnt like him as a partner.

    As a citizen i would not like him to be my president

    Whoops!!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    While not as interesting as the Assassination attempt on Dana ( see my sig) there is an interesting snippet about Seán and his mentoring business in the Indo today.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/presidential-election/gallaghers-useless-advice-at-euro4aminute-left-me-feeling-sick-2911605.html
    Kealan O'Connor, from Navan, Co Meath, said that the presidential favourite promised him two hours of mentoring at €250 an hour -- but he said the meeting lasted just 90 minutes and he was still charged €500.

    He said his session in February with the businessman and TV star, which promised to bring his "business to the next level", was "useless" and he felt deeply let down.

    €250 an hour is damn nice money if you can make it.
    Mr Gallagher requested full payment in advance of the two-hour session and cashed their cheque immediately, almost two weeks before they met.

    But as to the advice given during this 90 minutes ???
    I wanted my son to leave with his chest pumping with motivation but the whole thing was totally uninspirational. It was the sort of mundane spiel you'd get in a public house or on the sidelines of a football pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    So finally the media are publishing facts that they have known all along about Sean Gallagher.I wonder what took them so long? This may catually move McGuinness up .
    Gallagher should be toast now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    raymon wrote: »
    He is not in Smarthomes any more

    His new business is quite interesting ... please read

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/1020/1224306126915.html

    Because of an earlier warning I will refuse to comment on this story.

    however if I was a businessman I wouldnt like him as a partner.

    As a citizen i would not like him to be my president

    RAYMON,you seem to talk a very dislike to sg,very personal,maybe you know him or have personal connection ??
    even to extent you on several threads about him and you even have a special thread for him, very weird..
    one thing to not like someone who was connected to ff or you going to say because you think he lied ,welcome to politics,,, anyone connected too these political things lies to some degree,
    politicians are just bad actors, get over it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    So finally the media are publishing facts that they have known all along about Sean Gallagher.I wonder what took them so long? This may catually move McGuinness up .
    Gallagher should be toast now.

    like marty mc guinness :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    like marty mc guinness :)

    Indeed. It's Micharl D's to lose now.
    By the way i don't think it's fair to say Raymon has a personal vendetta. He was arguing in the face of beligerence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    RAYMON,you seem to talk a very dislike to sg,very personal,maybe you know him or have personal connection ??
    even to extent you on several threads about him and you even have a special thread for him, very weird..
    one thing to not like someone who was connected to ff or you going to say because you think he lied ,welcome to politics,,, anyone connected too these political things lies to some degree,
    politicians are just bad actors, get over it

    I don't know Gallagher .

    My motivation was this : I was watching the guy on tv telling blatant lies that I knew were not true.

    Nothing personal. I just have a strong dislike for people who publicly lie

    Also I am not affiliated with any party, I usually vote a mix of independents , FG and lab depending on the individual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    politicians are just bad actors, get over it

    No, I don't think we should get over it. Some people have been complaining about the negative tone of the campaign, but I don't think that's a problem. I object when actual dirty tactics are used. Norris was accused of things which were simply untrue in the press, some fact checking would be good, but...

    Norris really does have questions to answer about those Nawi letters, and his excuses for not answering them are feeble.

    Dana really is a complete looper.

    MMG was Chief of Staff of the IRA long after 1974.

    Mary Davis is still a nobody, and all that Special Olympics work was very well paid indeed, and not any kind of admirable charity work.

    I don't know what the hell Mitchell and FG were doing during this campaign, but no-one even had to go negative on them, they did a job on themselves.

    Once the spotlight turned to him, Gallagher was revealed as an FF insider of the kind we just tossed out of Government.

    These are not fake or made up issues, they are real reasons why these people should not be President. The so-called negative campaign is the only reason we know all of this.

    Which leaves only Michael D standing (for now). He's a bit old and shaky, but that's really the only significant thing anyone has against him, and it's not very unusual for our Presidents past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    raymon wrote: »
    Now that the threads are merged (not sure why) I will restate the question ..... is Sean Gallagher a good businessman.???

    It is my opinion that he is a spoofer and has little or no business skills.

    He has misrepresented his business success on his webpage

    The business that he states is the fastest growing technology company in Ireland is reduced to 20 people now from 60-100

    I will not vote a spooofer into the Aras

    Look most of the ones who profitted during the building bubble were not good businessmen.
    They were lucky to be involved in an industry where it was very hard to fail to succeed.

    As Michael O'Leary has commented about how a recession is needed to get rid of the cr**, so it was with the building crash.

    All the so so tradesmen with 30 people working for them, the non builders who suddenly were developers, were weeded out and suddenly shown up.
    Sad thing is the crash also took down the honest decent smart ones who had been in business and doing ok for decades.

    gallagher and his buddy had an idea and went with it.
    They were lucky that they started during the biggest property bubble nearly in history.
    What is surprising though is why such a company at such a time needed so much state support ?
    RAYMON,you seem to talk a very dislike to sg,very personal,maybe you know him or have personal connection ??
    even to extent you on several threads about him and you even have a special thread for him, very weird..
    one thing to not like someone who was connected to ff or you going to say because you think he lied ,welcome to politics,,, anyone connected too these political things lies to some degree,
    politicians are just bad actors, get over it

    The converse could be said of you.
    You have gone out of your way to defend him at every opportunity and make like of the blatant rewriting by gallagher of his political background.

    If you accuse Raymon, it is equally valid then to ask if you have a personal connection to gallagher or a member of his team ?

    Oh and stop pedalling the usual ff line about how everyone is equally as bad.
    It doesn't excuse what he has done.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    RAYMON,you seem to talk a very dislike to sg,very personal,maybe you know him or have personal connection ??
    even to extent you on several threads about him and you even have a special thread for him, very weird..
    one thing to not like someone who was connected to ff or you going to say because you think he lied ,welcome to politics,,, anyone connected too these political things lies to some degree,
    politicians are just bad actors, get over it

    +1

    There would seem to be party affiliated posters on many of the threads, not just the SG ones. Everyone is aware of this and I would give some credit to people reading threads that they can take the facts from amongst the spin where it exists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    jmayo wrote: »
    It doesn't excuse what he has done.

    Just what has he personally done that is so bad? This is the crux of the discussion that is missing.


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