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UCD SU 2011-12: Who will leave a mark?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Mark Stokes


    As I've had my name mentioned, may as well clarify a few inaccuracies.

    I'll start with the easiest first, Wolohan or Caoimhe for Education. Just no, they're either not interested in that position or even a sabbatical one. Aoife Nic running for Education or Welfare, HA. Not a hope. She is on placement for Semester 2, and if she was going to run, it'd be for the top job, she wouldn't add on another year to Medicine for anything less. Lawless isn't going for anything, in his own words "it just wouldn't pay me to do that!"

    Stephen Stokes is not my brother btw, just to clarify.....

    Also, as for your pronouncements on who's leading the field and who's unbeatable or working the hardest now, I know that much of that is inaccurate as I've seen first hand how certain people are doing, and how certain people just aren't doing.

    Oh, and ArtsSoc, eh, as Treasurer, I'd hope that I'd know about internal disagreements, and the committee get along great actually, McCahill as Auditor has things moving well and I don't know of anything that could be classed as a row, especially any sort of disagreements that would bring the committee or the society into disrepute. So, we're grand, thanks for asking.

    As for the elections, they'll come down to one thing (and I only fully grasped this lesson when I lost the Arts PRO race), it's not about how well known you are or what you've done or the experience in your manifesto or how you look etc etc etc, it's boots on the ground and how many canvassers you have from all the different faculties. And if you train your canvassers so they know how to approach people and get them to vote for your guy or girl, you'll win. Most people voting don't know the names of most candidates, let alone all the competing policies, it comes down to who pushed you into the polling booth.

    I should also mention, I'm pretty hopeful that I'll be on a Stagé (EU internship) next year, so I'd not be hopeful about my chances of running..... Oh, as for the FFer point, yep, I'm in FF and the KBC, as are a hell of a lot of people, the KBC membership list is a very interesting read, especially if you go back over previous years. Though KBC don't run candidates, if people from it decide to run and the people in the Cumann think they're good, they'll support and canvass for them, simple as that. It's, I'd think, what friends do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Mark Stokes


    Oh, also, I did NOT run Edel's campaign. I was on her team, but not her campaign manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,625 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Ah Stokes, the friendly banter that was going on here, you had to come in and ruin it all. If you'd given me a week in this thread you'd have won the C&C election...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭brownlad


    sorry bit of a noob in ucd...what does welfare do apart from give me condoms?

    thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    He could be a mover and shaker, but needs a base urgently.

    This line made me laugh! You'd think you were talking about Barack Obama before the Democratic Presidential nominations. I'm not sure if anybody at any stage in the SU's history could be deemed a mover and shaker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,625 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    brownlad wrote: »
    sorry bit of a noob in ucd...what does welfare do apart from give me condoms?

    thanks

    Welfare runs awareness weeks, provides counselling, manages the ewelfar fund sits on uni boards to stpp funding being taken aaay from key areasand generaly does all it can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 frankiesayrelax


    Sorry I just had to respond to this thread. Just a bit of background on who I am. I graduated last year after 4 years in UCD and am now doing a masters in UCD. I was never involved in the SU as a class rep or anything but always took an interest and was on a few campaign teams over the years. Was not on any campaign last year but knew half of the candidates.

    Anyway, it's a bit early to start talking about elections, we're only in OCTOBER!!! But since you started I might as well give my 2 cents.

    This thread was clearly started by one of the prospective candidates or someone who has a vested interest. Anyway, I'll talk about each race as I see it although it is very early and bear in mind, this time last year nobody would have envisaged Breslin or Geoghegan running, let alone winning.

    I think Lacey has President in the bag to be honest, he's almost untouchable. Lawless won't run, neither will Lannoye and if he does, everyone will know how to beat him. I've heard Breslin might challenge him and although that would be intriguing having two VPs against each other for the top job, Breslin has been struggling to cope recently. She's by far the hardest worker I hear but she's almost burned out and I've heard she ain't interested. Lacey has been gearing up for this since he came to UCD. And it's all been handed to him on a silver plate: he gets elected class rep with no hassle due to Ents giving him free booze to give to his class the night before the election, he runs Logue's failed campaign but polls a respectable 41% after coming from nowhere. He gets elected Sports Officer when Lynam decided to create a position. Then his opposition last spring for C&C was poor. I don't know Suzanne Lee but she was never getting elected. Emma Fortune is lovely but she had no chance. And now, he looks like he'll be following the De Brún path of C&C and then President. Lacey has had an unspectacular year but crucially he hasn't ****ed up yet and I doubt he will now that the Freshers Guide, Orientation Week and Class Rep Recruitment are over; he only has one more obstacle to overcome: this USI march. I doubt he gets 5,000 UCD students again but if he gets 3,000 he'll have passed the test in my opinion. The main reason why Lacey is untouchable however is the fact that he has **** all to do because C&C is a pointless position. He can't **** up because there is nothing for him to **** up. Knowing the type of character he is, I'm sure all the reps are in love with him and will form the basis of his campaign team along with the Roebuck/KBC brigade.

    Chris Wong is a tough one. Someone said he's a cert, he ain't. He's certainly the front-runner at the mo although it's early days. There isn't another candidate to run against him that I can think of although the KBC may run a candidate like they do for Education every year! Wong was very pro RON last year so I doubt he enjoys Geoghegan holding the Education job. Wong and Williamson were best buds last year and Williamson is Wong's idol. Wong wants to follow in Williamson's path from Science PRO in to Education but he's also interested in Welfare.

    Wong is beatable 100%. Yes he polled 55% in a 5 candidate election for Science PRO but that was with the backing of the entire final year Science which he won't have again. He wouldn't have any other support outside of Science and the Welfare Crew (which were almost entirely Science students last year). I don't see him lecture addressing in a packed Theatre L and him getting a response. Whoever runs against him will romp home in Law, Eng, Quinn, Arts and Health Science. Wong isn't from the country so he won't even get the bogger vote in Ag. He'd be a tough candidate to beat but in a campus wide election, I think his base of support would be too narrowly focused.

    He could also run for Welfare because the sabbat he loves this year is Breslin. Breslin, it seems has followed on from Scott Ahearn and has the Welfare Crew running. Gallagher will definitely run but he'd be stabbed in the back by his Science buddy if Wong chooses Welfare. Another spanner in the works would be if Evan Heritage ran for Welfare too. If the three of them ran for Welfare, they'd split the Welfare Crew (and Science for Heritage and Wong leaving Gallagher as the favourite) leading to the possibility that an outside candidate could sneak in the back door. Gallagher will definitely run for Welfare and I feel he is the only cert among the VP races. Wong will definitely run but for which race? Either way, the Welfare Crew will have two candidates running thus splitting Wong's team and further proof that he can be beaten if he ran for Education. Gallagher is a cert because there is nobody else, not that he's been impressive as Arts PRO thus far. His election last year was quite lazy I felt. It was like he knew he'd get elected and didn't give a **** and that arrogance could come back to haunt him. Bear in mind, I voted for himself and Stokes also due to the fact that Sheerin and the other guy were utterly useless. Gallagher is an awful speaker so he wouldn't instill any belief in anyone from the bottom of a lecture theatre. If he shows the same level of spirit and determination he demonstrated the first time he ran for Arts PRO, then he has it in the bag. The only other credible candidate would be Mark Stokes for Education and the KBC may run him since there isn't anyone else but he shot himself in the foot by running for Mature and losing. Someone unexpected will run for Education in the last few weeks as always happens.

    Speaking of the Arts PROs, the C&C race is the one that everyone believes Sheerin has in the bag. She doesn't and I guarantee you she won't get elected. I have no idea how she even got elected Arts PRO but she's spread herself too thin this year among the SU and C&E and Arts Soc. She is getting on peoples nerves these days. I could only imagine what her input would be like on Exec. She is completely clueless. Somebody will emerge, Murnane or Conran would easily beat her but I'm not sure if they'd run. If it isn't them, it'll be someone else. Aisling Sheerin will never be a Sabbatical Officer in UCDSU.

    As for Ents, why would Darcy run again? He'll be 26 come next election and is yet to complete his degree. He's had a decent year with acts but hasn't sold out one event if you exclude LMFAO. Heffo would have it in the bag I feel and this might be the last Ents election as Gary Redmond wants to remove Ents from the Constitution as he sits on the Review Group. Redmond almost always gets his way.

    It's far too early to speak about elections, let's wait until February but Lacey will be the next President while Gallagher is heavy favourite for Welfare. Heffo I think will win Ents even if Darcy runs while a previous post suggest that Wong for Education and Sheerin for C&C are the only two certs, in my opinion those positions are the ones that are most up in the air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭beardedmaster


    I've never been a Class Rep or been involved in SU either, but I also have had an active interest in its runnings and have been on campaign teams, albeit for not as long.

    All I gotta say is, nice post!


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