Who are 'The Poor'?

Freddie59

Having watched the RTE programme about the property crash the other night, it begs the question:

Who are the poor in modern-day Ireland?

The beggars conning people out of millions of euro a week?

The ones conning the V de P and the SW?

Over to you........

PK2008

No good will come of this thread

papajimsmooth

The poor people who have preconceptions about everybody

Chuck Stone

Freddie59 wrote: »

Who are the poor in modern-day Ireland?

The beggars conning people out of millions of euro a week?

The ones conning the V de P and the SW?

You've made up your mind already Freddie.

pragmatic1

Yo momma nigga.

Jake Rugby Walrus666

The poor are to people who have very little material wealth.

The Internet Explorer

Blast her with piss.

Suryavarman

The Internet Explorer wrote: »

Blast her with piss.

Well played Mr. Explorer, well played.

JustAddWater

Anagram: Ther poo

Micky Dolenz

Cut credit and we are all poor.

tunedout

Suryavarman wrote: »

Well played Mr. Explorer, well played.

what is this sh*t ? well done sir, well done. well said mr, well said.
what the f*ck is this a new fu*ckin thing? it's pure sh*t.

Suryavarman

tunedout wrote: »

what is this sh*t ? well done sir, well done. well said mr, well said.
what the f*ck is this a new fu*ckin thing? it's pure sh*t.

OK calm down it's not the end of the world.

Jake Rugby Walrus666

Rich people have lots.

Poor people don't have very much. Sometimes nothing.

tunedout

Suryavarman wrote: »

OK calm down it's not the end of the world.

f*ck yourself

jdooley28

tunedout wrote: »

f*ck yourself

easy tiger

El Weirdo

tunedout wrote: »

f*ck yourself

Well played, sir. Well played.

Micky Dolenz

tunedout wrote: »

f*ck yourself

Banned

Lab_Mouse

tunedout wrote: »

what is this sh*t ? well done sir, well done. well said mr, well said.
what the f*ck is this a new fu*ckin thing? it's pure sh*t.

well played Sir,well played

EDIT:lol snap el weirdo:)

Mr. Presentable

There are no poor in Ireland, only relatively less rich. If you want to see poor go to South America, Africa, Eastern Europe etc.

mikemac

Straight from the source OP, Combat Poverty Agency
Another quango set up for jobs for the boys

In Ireland, 11 basic items are used to construct the deprivation index:

Without heating at some stage in the last year
Unable to afford a morning, afternoon or evening out in the last fortnight
Unable to afford two pairs of strong shoes
Unable to afford a roast once a week
Unable to afford a meal with meat, chicken or fish every second day
Unable to afford new (not second-hand) clothes
Unable to afford a warm waterproof coat
Unable to afford to keep the home adequately warm
Unable to afford to replace any worn out furniture
Unable to afford to have family or friends for a drink or meal once a month
Unable to afford to buy presents for family or friends at least once a year

Yes, taxpayers pay for people to do this research and come up with these lists

In Ireland, relative income poverty is measured by calculating the median income - the mid-point on the scale of all incomes in the State from the highest to the lowest - and setting the line at 60% of the median. People whose incomes fall below this line are said to be at risk of poverty. The most recent figures show 14.1% of the population at risk of poverty.

So if times are good and average wages like the average industrial wage go up, then welfare has to be increased to match or people get "left behind"

darrcow

im poor ive got holes in my jocks and my socks.

tatabubbly

In the case of above, I'm really really poor then, I confirm to number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11

Sinfonia

tunedout wrote: »

what is this sh*t ? well done sir, well done. well said mr, well said.
what the f*ck is this a new fu*ckin thing? it's pure sh*t.

Pretty rich giving about about new trends on AH, given your 1 day of membership.

pragmatic1

darrcow wrote: »

im poor ive got holes in my jocks and my socks.

Eww. Bet you're smelly too.

Absurdum

Unable to afford to have family or friends for a drink or meal once a month
Unable to afford to buy presents for family or friends at least once a year

I think that means if you can't afford unnecessary luxuries, you're poor and we should all be filled with shame at our own failures to provide you with a handout to pay for beer and selection boxes.

fedor.2.

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

There are no poor in Ireland, only relatively less rich. If you want to see poor go to South America, Africa, Eastern Europe etc.

You really need to get out more.

PARKHEAD67

Freddie59 wrote: »

Having watched the RTE programme about the property crash the other night, it begs the question:

Who are the poor in modern-day Ireland?

The beggars conning people out of millions of euro a week?

The ones conning the V de P and the SW?

Over to you........

The ethnic people who burn out the houses that us taxpayers fund.Them lads.;)

PARKHEAD67

fedor.2. wrote: »

You really need to get out more.

Hes right

Malteser Heads

Gypos

PARKHEAD67

Malteser Heads wrote: »

Gypos

You racist .Dat there is DISCRIMINATION!;)

mikemac

Malteser Heads wrote: »

Gypos

They have plenty of money

I would have more too if I didn't pay tax

PARKHEAD67

mikemac wrote: »

They have plenty of money

I would have more too if I didn't pay tax

Spot on. But that oul tarmac thats gettin laid by this ethnic minority:D.Surely thats not taxable like.Surely your entitled to lay tarmac(tax free) AND claim your dole.Is that not how it works?? Its certainly how Ireland works.

Mike 1972

This should go down well on AH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I

Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home:

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they:
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

jamiecoins

Freddie59 wrote: »

Having watched the RTE programme about the property crash the other night, it begs the question:

Who are the poor in modern-day Ireland?

The beggars conning people out of millions of euro a week?

The ones conning the V de P and the SW?

Over to you........

simple answer poor people are people with little or no money simple as

case closed

AulBiddy

People with no money. Duh.
But still, as many beggars as I see around Dublin I'll never forget the poor lad who died outside Londis on Grafton St. Passed out, stone cold with a cup with around €2 in it next to the shop on a Monday morning. It was so horrible to see

Cee-Jay-Cee

The poor are those that get up every day to go to work, pay their mortgages and bills and have very little left for anything else once bills have been looked after.

The perception is that those on SW who are also getting rent supplement and allowances for everything else are the poor but theyre not. Theyre well off in comaprison to many working people...they have no money worries, theyre not stressing about not being able to pay bills or their mortgage, they have a medical card for their medical needs, if things get tight (money wise) they go crying to their community welfare officer and generally theyre looked after.

Richard Hillman

The poor are the people who wear €100 runners, €80 tracksuits and €60 football jerseys. Whilst puffing on their €8.65 cigarettes.

paddyandy

'Poor' is a term that does'nt have a precise enough definition .....there are 'poor' middle class people struggling with morgages and 'poor' innercity people struggling with expensive habits so WHICH OR WHAT definition are we talkin' about????????????????????????

ShadowHearth

We have a joke at work with few people:

"what are you talking about! I can't afford it! I am not on social welfare!"

Poor people in Ireland - idiots who work full time and pay for theyr own rent, food, entertainment, kids.

Me and misses work full time and haven't taken a penny from social welfare. We can't even dream about luxury of having kids. We couldn't even afford to get a puppy as we bouth work and there wont be anyone at home to look after it while it's small.

Couple I know has 2 kids bouth work part times ( shady ) and get social welfare. Get child benefit and rent allowance etc. Medical cards. They are on third holiday this year. 2-3 weeks each...

They are on social welfare, but why I feel like a poor man...

Bajingo

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

There are no poor in Ireland, only relatively less rich. If you want to see poor go to South America, Africa, Eastern Europe etc.

Save some money, if you want to see poor people take a bus into Dublin.

tempura

CJC999 wrote: »

The poor are those that get up every day to go to work, pay their mortgages and bills and have very little left for anything else once bills have been looked after.

The perception is that those on SW who are also getting rent supplement and allowances for everything else are the poor but theyre not. Theyre well off in comaprison to many working people...they have no money worries, theyre not stressing about not being able to pay bills or their mortgage, they have a medical card for their medical needs, if things get tight (money wise) they go crying to their community welfare officer and generally theyre looked after.

Sweet jesus, i've seriously had enough of reading this consistant shyte on boards relating to how being on sw is a walk in the park. First and foermost it is not as simple as people seem to think, you cannot just walk into your local sw office and say, " Hi, im a bit short pal, can you give me a few quid "

There is a system in place which requires you to present a hell of a lot of proof adhering to you financial situation.

You have many many interviews to ensure that you are not trying to play the system.

And then, if you are lucky, after about six weeks, you may just get something.

It is by no means a stress free, happy go lucky life on sw.

It could be anyone of you signing on in the coming weeks, one never knows what it around the corner.

Was happily employed for the last 20 years myself up until two weeks ago.

Think before the sweeping statements.

mickydoomsux

tempura wrote: »

Sweet jesus, i've seriously had enough of reading this consistant shyte on boards relating to how being on sw is a walk in the park. First and foermost it is not as simple as people seem to think, you cannot just walk into your local sw office and say, " Hi, im a bit short pal, can you give me a few quid "

There is a system in place which requires you to present a hell of a lot of proof adhering to you financial situation.

You have many many interviews to ensure that you are not trying to play the system.

And then, if you are lucky, after about six weeks, you may just get something.

It is by no means a stress free, happy go lucky life on sw.

It could be anyone of you signing on in the coming weeks, one never knows what it around the corner.

Was happily employed for the last 20 years myself up until two weeks ago.

Think before the sweeping statements.

See you made the key mistake of working for a living at some point. You would have had a much easier time of it if you came straight out of school on to the dole.

Dudess

Freddie59 wrote: »

Having watched the RTE programme about the property crash the other night, it begs the question:

Who are the poor in modern-day Ireland?

The beggars conning people out of millions of euro a week?

The ones conning the V de P and the SW?

****ing hell...

paddyandy

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

There are no poor in Ireland, only relatively less rich. If you want to see poor go to South America, Africa, Eastern Europe etc.

you are absolutely correct...my friend came back from a visit and told me that in Bunoes Aires the litter bins in public places are empty.Nothing stays long in them.......They think they are poor here.Telly feeds them that idea...

Micky Dolenz

While we can all agree that there is no absolute poverty in Ireland, we do have many people who can't afford to heat their homes, feed themselves properly or have any sort of quality of life.

Everything is relative, comparing us to 2nd or 3rd world countries isn't really fair.

Zen65

The real poor don't have computers & internet at their disposal, so they don't have a voice here in this thread. Don't be surprised then if nobody comes on here giving a truly graphic description of their lives in poverty, and certainly don't draw the conclusion that there are no poor because this thread didn't find them.

Be at peace,


Z

ShadowHearth

Zen65 wrote: »

The real poor don't have computers & internet at their disposal, so they don't have a voice here in this thread. Don't be surprised then if nobody comes on here giving a truly graphic description of their lives in poverty, and certainly don't draw the conclusion that there are no poor because this thread didn't find them.

Be at peace,


Z

You right, they will use iPhone.

hondasam

I don't think anyone will die with the hunger in Ireland, yes people have to cut back etc but it's not poverty.

Ostrom

tempura wrote: »

Sweet jesus, i've seriously had enough of reading this consistant shyte on boards relating to how being on sw is a walk in the park. First and foermost it is not as simple as people seem to think, you cannot just walk into your local sw office and say, " Hi, im a bit short pal, can you give me a few quid "

There is a system in place which requires you to present a hell of a lot of proof adhering to you financial situation.

You have many many interviews to ensure that you are not trying to play the system.

And then, if you are lucky, after about six weeks, you may just get something.

It is by no means a stress free, happy go lucky life on sw.

It could be anyone of you signing on in the coming weeks, one never knows what it around the corner.

Was happily employed for the last 20 years myself up until two weeks ago.

Think before the sweeping statements.

Same idiotic reasoning presents in every one of these threads unfortunately - I cant understand. Either through bigotry or ignorance, people seem incapable of distinguishing between the long term unemployed (i.e. the 4.2% of the 'full employment' years) and the recent jobless (now the majority unemployed), some with decades of experience and unbroken empolyment histories

I've been lucky enough to avoid the dole so far. After seeing my partner deal with them for the past year I hope I never have to, it is miserable

melekalikimaka

the people who protest the most

saywhatyousee

melekalikimaka wrote: »

the people who protest the most

Obviously