No Achievements

Would it annoy you to play a game without achievements/trophies?

Morag

No, I'd rather there was proper plot/story/game/char development done then tacking on of achievements.

Kiith

I don't care less about achievements. It has no bearing on the game whatsoever.

Off the top of my head, only Portal 2 and Bulletstorm were the only games I played that used achievements/trophies to their full extent.

Retr0gamer

I have notifications turned off on my360 because I find the achievement notifications distracting and take you out of the experience. Really could not care less about achievements.

Penn

Only time I cared about them was the last two Assassin's Creed games, which I wanted to get the Platinum trophies (might go back and do AC1 too). Didn't get the AC:Brotherhood one because of one of the multiplayer trophies which is next to impossible without boosting.

If the achievements/trophies offer a challenge, I might go for them. But generally I couldn't care less. Most of them just happen when you progress through the game. Hardly an achievement to finish a training level.

Kiith

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I have notifications turned off on my360 because I find the achievement notifications distracting and take you out of the experience. Really could not care less about achievements.

I didn't even know you could do this. Will have a look later.

Zero-Cool

I'm not exactly a 'trophy whore' but I sure do like em . Multiplayer trophies should be banned and the 'collect 300 rocks' are tedious as hell!

However, I think Trophies can contribute to a game as well. Take Batman Arkham Asylum. I would never have pumped hours into the combat challenge rooms if not for the platinum trophy that waited for me at the end. Going back then playing it on Hard, I was kicking a$$ because of the moves I learned from the combat rooms. So trophies can encourage you to play more of a game you wouldn't usually play but some just take the piss.

Zeouterlimits

Deleted User wrote: »

Would it annoy you to play a game without achievements/trophies?

Annoy me? Certainly not.
The reason I like Achievements is having a handy digital record of what I've played in the past 5 years. I love looking back and going "Oh yeah, I only rented Lost Planet and finished the first 3 levels, I should pick it up and finish it" etc.

Burning Eclipse

I really like achievements, and trophies to a lesser extent (even though I know it's not cool to like them), but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Valkyria Chronicles had no trophies when I played it earlier this year but I was gripped and couldn't put it down.

Great games don't need achievements, but they can really add to some games. I always use this example, but Pacifist in the original Geometry Wars is a perfect example.

Morag

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/achievements

pablomakaveli

Achievements/trophies arent a dealbreaker for a game but they are a good way of encouraging players to explore more of a game or try playing it in a different way.

For example i went back to Red Dead Redemption to have a go at unlocking a few trophies and ended up doing stuff i missed out on when i had just played through the story and enjoyed the game more as a result.

ionapaul

I've no particular interest in achievements / trophies but some games I've played have leveraged the concept well IMHO - they help keep some multiplayer games fresh (I'm thinking Team Fortress 2 or L4D2 maybe) and improve the longevity of some single-player games, making you further explore the world and whatnot.

Notorious

I like achievements/trophies, but they have no bearing on how or whether or not I play a game. Sometimes they're completely pointless (eg collecting all the film reels in LA Noire - trophies like that I just don't have the time for). For me, they can add an extra challenge to a game.

I don't understand people who won't play a game if it has no trophies/achievements, or others who will grind through a game they don't like just to bump their Gamerscore. A friend of mine just plays games for trophies and has admittedly played through some terrible games just to ping an easy platinum. It isn't for me, but different strokes...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

the only achievement I cared about in my history of gaming was the pacifist approach to deus ex HR. There was a bug in a quest that meant that even though I tranquilised everyone, the game reported them as dead and I didn't get the achievement, but I went through the game without killing anyone so I don't really care that steam doesn't report it. it's the act itself that's important not the fact that I have a little picture on my steam profile.

marco_polo

I'd be rather the opposite more often a game that has achievements annoys me more especially those completely pointless ones in a story driven game (yes I know I completed all the main missions that is how I finished the damn game :rolleyes:).

That said I would certainly conceed that done well in certain games they can add to the experience in terms of replayability etc.

tonydude

Ive got a few trophies, and i like the whole idea of them really but then again im quite competitive and the option of seeing what games your m8s have played is also available. Trophies drive me to complete the game the way its meant to be played not rushed through. People playing easy games for trophies is stupid though, you wont find any useless games on my list.

YouSavedMyLife

Not an achievement whore but i do like them. When there is a game that i really really like i try to clear it 100% and that usually ties in with the achievement list of the game.

ríomhaire

If that seriously bothers you you might be a bit OCD.

That_Guy

Nah, they're not important at all. I've turned off the notifications on my Xbox anyway so I never know when I've gotten an achievement.

Most achievements are for repetitive actions it seems. What's the fun in that?

calex71

Love them, that is all.

ríomhaire

That_Guy wrote: »

Nah, they're not important at all. I've turned off the notifications on my Xbox anyway so I never know when I've gotten an achievement.

Most achievements are for repetitive actions it seems. What's the fun in that?

I do this for steam when I'm playing a singleplayer story driven game and I'm trying to immerse myself. I don't do it for multiplayer or casual games like osmos though because it disables chat messages too.

deathrider

I don't think many of my games would have clocked up half the amount of hours that they did in my place if not for achievements. I love them. It gives me lots of reasons for replay games ovr and over. Bayonetta (for example) I have great fun get the achievements from. Batman: AA (as someone stated earlier) was time well spent too. It gives a bit more drive to games.

I don't like this gameply/story Vs Achievements argument, because it makes no sense to me. If a game is good, it's good, regardless of wheather or not it has achievements. And if a game is sh1te, then it'll take a lot more than a few gamerscore to make me play it.

Healium

With the little time I now have to play games, I'd be much more likely to boot up a 360 game, get Achievements, and have something to show for my time than replay an old Xbox/PS2 gem

Napper Hawkins

Spent most of my gaming life without any of this rubbish so no, don't care. Only time I've ever given it a fair go was when I went for the Big Boss title in MGS4.

krudler

Couldnt care less, I play the game to finish it, I do try unlock guns and stuff in COD but that happens through playtime anyway rather than specifically doing it, most of the awards I have on that are accidental

Retr0gamer

I've too many games to play to bother with achievements and drag out games long after they've stopped being fun.

TerrorFirmer

I like achievements in certain games. I absolutely loathe achievements that demand pointless repetition, but I really love ones in games like say, Fallout 3 that really encourage you to try your hand at approaching the game in different ways and really making sure you get your moneys worth. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are the two games I have the most achievements in actually (about 2,800 between them), simply because I love them so much and just getting the achievements was a hell of a lot of fun, not to mention incredibly satisfying. Most games, I'll just play once and whatever my achievement total at the end, is as good or as high as it gets. Most games sadly just have the balance/motivation/reward out of whack.

Sisko

I've had many a rant about them. I think they're a terrible addition to gaming - not the worst mind but the fall out from it with so many people seemingly obsessed by them = less of actual REAL game content. Devs must be very happy that the can entertain so many with out adding anything to a game but text.

I don't really get those with that personality type, I fear for such people if they ever touch an mmo.

:eek:

d22ontour

Achievements/perks started out with a decent ideal but now have become nothing but a joke imo.
Playing Goldeneye/Perfect Dark/Timesplitters 2 for achievements was worthwhile, now it's fire 30 bullets to get the 30 bullets fired badge...

deathrider

Does nobody see achievements as kinda special features on a DVD, or bonus tracks on a CD? Special features are always there, but easily ignored and often a waste of time.

jaykhunter

i don't care about 'cheevos' but i do like it when games include stuff for your avatar when completing the game. i'm all about gameplay, characters and storyline, i couldn't care less about achievement hunting. it's not like you can do anything with it and i don't have the time, the patience or the want to fullfil tasks over and over until i get a useless number to go up.

but if i were Microsoft, i think it's an ingenious idea to get people to play as many games as they can.

Overheal

in fairness some achievements are a gas. especially the ones you discover by accident: as it should be. I never like knowing what the achievments are, or how to 'grind' for them. Like this gem I found when Portal 2 came out, by virtue of just being me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAxQ3AwH_H0

It seriously added to the LMFAOctor that it resulted in a trophy.

Elmidena

I like updating my gamerscore/steam achievements or whatever, but I don't farm them. If I happen to unlock them ingame, then great! But there's some games that absolutely should not have achievements--Terraria springs to mind. Takes the point of sandboxing away if you have a set to-do list, and your imagination will be left lacking freedom. I definitely don't rent/buy games to farm score off, but it does give me a little bit of cheer when I get a few points for pulling off a difficult level or whatever =D

James Howlett

Healium wrote: »

With the little time I now have to play games, I'd be much more likely to boot up a 360 game, get Achievements, and have something to show for my time than replay an old Xbox/PS2 gem

That's true. As free time becomes more precious with age it's nice to have a little bonus that helps you justify the time you spent gaming, even just to oneself.

I do often play retro games for enjoyment but I have nothing against achievements in current games.

djkeogh

I love the cheevs as well. I'll happily put more time into a game I really enjoyed for some more cheevs. I'd never bother replaying a game I was sick of by the end of the campaign though. but as long as I still have a passion for the game I'll go through again and 1K if possible. Just 1K'd Enslaved a few weeks ago and am on my way to 1K in Castlevania LOS now. Loved both games so enjoying going through them a second time.

calex71

djkeogh wrote: »

I love the cheevs as well. I'll happily put more time into a game I really enjoyed for some more cheevs. I'd never bother replaying a game I was sick of by the end of the campaign though. but as long as I still have a passion for the game I'll go through again and 1K if possible. Just 1K'd Enslaved a few weeks ago and am on my way to 1K in Castlevania LOS now. Loved both games so enjoying going through them a second time.

Agree there, much as I love them (Hit 6000 achievements earlier) I would never put another 20 hours into a game I hated for 10GS

At the end of the day you either love them or couldn't care less about them. As others have said they turn off the notifications etc.

For me personally I love the get your moneys worth kind , like how fallout 3 did them, that made you seek out new missions and areas and ones for playing as a bad ass like I wouldn't normally do in a game but had a ball being mean to folks and blowing them up

deathrider

calex71 wrote: »

Agree there, much as I love them (Hit 6000 achievements earlier) I would never put another 20 hours into a game I hated for 10GS

I'd never put twenty hours into something I hated fullstop. Regardless of G-count, if a game is good, it's worth playing again. If a game is not, then chances are I wouldn't ven give it one full playthrough. The achievements are really a bonus, and keep me coming back for seconds, but only if I enjoyed the main course to begin with.

funky penguin

sheehy83 wrote: »

I'm not exactly a 'trophy whore' but I sure do like em . Multiplayer trophies should be banned and the 'collect 300 rocks' are tedious as hell!

However, I think Trophies can contribute to a game as well. Take Batman Arkham Asylum. I would never have pumped hours into the combat challenge rooms if not for the platinum trophy that waited for me at the end. Going back then playing it on Hard, I was kicking a$$ because of the moves I learned from the combat rooms. So trophies can encourage you to play more of a game you wouldn't usually play but some just take the piss.

I'm with you on this Sheehy. Not the be all and end all in a game, but if they're done well, I like the additional challenges. AC2 platinum trophy was a joy to get, as was Mirror's Edge. Some take the piss though, especially, as you said, the multiplayer ones.

Gandalph

Anyone with more achievements than me is a no lifer, anyone with less is a newb

Mr. K

I'm a big fan of achievements. I don't mind playing games without them, but they're the main reason I buy multiplatform games on 360 (along with the pad and Live).

I don't suffer through poor games just to get achievements though, that'd be sad. If I have all of the achievements in a game, it's usually a sign that I really enjoyed it; my way of telling the developers, "Good job!".

ironictoaster

I like achievements where it is an achievement to unlock them. None of this grinding for achievements lark.

Grayditch

They give me replay value on some games and give me different reasons to play them in different ways, like challenges. Games I only think are 'meh', I don't care about those. Platinums like the Fallout 3, Assassin's Creed 2 and Demon's Souls were fun for me. Only if I'm really enjoying them.

v3ttel

Game content > Achievements/Trophies.

I picked up Jonah Lomu Rugby Challenge and used the edited option file with all the correct international player names, better player likenesses, etc.

Seeing as trophies as disabled when you use another users option file, I can't unlock any trophies, but 'd prefer a better gaming experience.

It is nice to look back over what you've unlocked ocassionally, but I'm never going to do the collect '500 boxtops' type ones.

There is no point in having a trophy/achievment if it wasn't fun.

Agricola

Dont bother with them at all. I know they incentivise people to replay games, and that is a good thing, but their primary reason for being is a willy waving exercise whereby you have a bigger number under your name than your friends.
I dont play much MP so this kind of thing means nothing to me really. Any trophies I have are accidental.

Varik

I choose platform based on mods, controls, and trophies/achievement(360 not steam). Graphics play a role for me deciding but not a major one. I won't get a game just for trophies in any case, my time/money is limited and i play games that i'll will enjoy.

But it does affect platform

Deus ex, i haven't gotten it yet but will likely get it on PS3 for trophies as modding it does not appeal to me.

Skyrim, PC for the mods.

Arkham city, PS3 for the controls and big screen with trophies added but not a deciding factor.

Testament1

I dont really care about achievements in games and will never go out of my way to get achievements/trophies. I much prefer my games to try and immerse me in a good storyline, which would explain why I have no love for multi-player either, apart from racing games.

Sisko

deathrider wrote: »

Does nobody see achievements as kinda special features on a DVD, or bonus tracks on a CD? Special features are always there, but easily ignored and often a waste of time.

Well if half the people that watched DVD's where so blown away by the special features and so obsessed by them that they started not to care enough if parts of the actual films themselves started to go missing....
and if movie makers started to realise they only need to make half a movie and fill the rest of the dvd with bogus special features.... then yeah. I could see them being like special features on a dvd.


:pac:

deathrider

Sisko wrote: »

Well if half the people that watched DVD's where so blown away by the special features and so obsessed by them that they started not to care enough if parts of the actual films themselves started to go missing....
and if movie makers started to realise they only need to make half a movie and fill the rest of the dvd with bogus special features.... then yeah. I could see them being like special features on a dvd.


:pac:

Then again, there are some people for everything. Look at pretty much anything you like, and you'll find some people who'll make a complete balls of it, and give it a bad name.

ríomhaire

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mcgovern

Playing a game without achievements/trophies feels like wasted time.