Prime Time Presidential Debate 48 hour Snapshot Poll . . . . . .

LordSutch · 12-10-2011 10:50pm #1

Following on from Wednesday's RTE Prime Time Presidential debate, who would you now vote for as the President of Ireland?
Obviously this poll doesn't proove anything, just a bit of fun, with all the runners on yet another TV debate & with just two weeks to go, it would be interesting to see who is in the running, and who isnt . . . . . . .

Mary Davis
Seán Gallagher
Michael D. Higgins
Martin McGuinness
Gay Mitchell
David Norris
Dana R. Scallon
*None of the above

Remember, this 48 hour Poll opens right now, Wednesday 11:50pm, and closes 11:50pm Friday night.

Quick, get your votes in now!

Pat D. Almighty · 12-10-2011 11:27pm

I'm voting McGuinness, but I think Michael D. came off the best tonight.
Miriam O'Callaghan was ****e. "Hands up if you think...". Where does she think she is?

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 12:07am

1 > Michael D Higgins.
2 > Sean Gallagher.
3 > David Norris.

I guess Michael D is now a dead cert, but who will be runner up?

KnifeWRENCH · 13-10-2011 12:13am

Higgins won the debate but I think McGuinness did well to hold his own under the barrage from Miriam. Norris also did better than he has in previous debates.

Biggest losers tonight were Gallagher and Dana.

Liam Byrne · 13-10-2011 12:18am

No change for me. Michael D is still the best by far of a poor field, with some absolute undesirables not even fit to get a 4th or 5th preference.

RichardAnd · 13-10-2011 7:39am

Michael D for me. I only caught bits of the broadcast as I'd things to do but I agree with the above, Miriam was poor. I honesty will never grasp what people see in her, she's a real product of the closed shop of RTE.

MagicMarker · 13-10-2011 7:40am

Ooops, I voted for Norris when I meant to vote for Higgins.

RichardAnd · 13-10-2011 7:43am

MagicMarker wrote: »

Ooops, I voted for Norris when I meant to vote for Higgins.

Don't do that on polling day!

james405 · 13-10-2011 7:49am

That's a shame it looks like Michael D is going to pull it off! The man is an old bag of bones! Im giving my vote to Gallagher! As they said for the last 12 months the normal duties of Mary Mac have shifted toward promoting irish exports! Realistically its the only way to go! They all talk about supporting this / that! We need the cash to do anything positive!

He's the man for that job! Its a shame he doesnt have more character / stage presence!

cardwizzard · 13-10-2011 7:53am

I didn't think there was an outright winner last night. Suppose most of them are playing it safe at this stage. Gallagher didn't do himself any good with the FF thing. Jesus there is nothing wrong with saying he was a member, loads of people supported FF for years. Dana had a horror show. Mary for me Davis is boring, Martin seemed to defend himself well, thought Miriam gave it to the others to attack him and nobody did, apart from a few sly quips from Mitchell. Norris was decent:eek: never thought I'd say that and, Micheal D was himself, at least he knows what hes talking about regarding the law and Constitution.

1. Martin, undecided on the rest as of yet, hope it hots up during the week.

leonidas83 · 13-10-2011 8:05am

cardwizzard wrote: »

I didn't think there was an outright winner last night. Suppose most of them are playing it safe at this stage. Gallagher didn't do himself any good with the FF thing. Jesus there is nothing wrong with saying he was a member, loads of people supported FF for years. Dana had a horror show. Mary for me Davis is boring, Martin seemed to defend himself well, thought Miriam gave it to the others to attack him and nobody did, apart from a few sly quips from Mitchell. Norris was decent:eek: never thought I'd say that and, Micheal D was himself, at least he knows what hes talking about regarding the law and Constitution.

1. Martin, undecided on the rest as of yet, hope it hots up during the week.

I would say the main reason for this would be Gay Mitchell's tactic of continually attacking McGuinness backfiring on him spectacularly. Now he is languishing in the polls and the rest of them can see the results of attacking a candidate with an obviously dodgy past.

I thought McGuinness held his own quite well under intense and somtimes utterly stupid questioning from Miriam, Michael D. was his usual self and is rightly the bookies favourite. Gallagher wasnt as smooth and together as he usual is and id say he will suffer because of this.

Prediction:
1) Michael D
2) McGuinness
3) Gallagher

pubview · 13-10-2011 8:09am

Looking at the (totally unscientific, of course) current state of play in our poll, you can see how clever it was of Michael D to ensure Norris got a run-out. Norris's 2nd prefs will see Higgins safely home.

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 12:10pm

Michael D Higgins by a mile . . . . .

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 12:27pm

A disgusting display by Miriam, I think she is a puppet to be honest.

MMG gets my vote.

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 12:35pm

FetchTheGin wrote: »

A disgusting display by Miriam, I think she is a puppet to be honest.

MMG gets my vote.

So even though you know his past, you are prepared to vote in Martin McGuinness (formerly of the Provisional IRA) as the President if Ireland :rolleyes:

cardwizzard · 13-10-2011 12:41pm

LordSutch wrote: »

So even though you know his past, you are prepared to vote in Martin McGuinness (formerly of the Provisional IRA) as the President if Ireland :rolleyes:

Yes I would, and so would 33 people of the above poll. Would he be the first ex IRA President?

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 12:46pm

LordSutch wrote: »

So even though you know his past, you are prepared to vote in Martin McGuinness (formerly of the Provisional IRA) as the President if Ireland :rolleyes:

I will vote Martin McGuinness, a man responsible(with a number of others) for winning civil rights for ALL people in the North, an experienced politician responsible for many economic improvements in the North, with the right political connections in America and elsewhere. He is a competent and astute politician.

Therefore, in my opinion, he is the best man for the job.

My name is URL · 13-10-2011 12:50pm

LordSutch wrote: »

So even though you know his past, you are prepared to vote in Martin McGuinness (formerly of the Provisional IRA) as the President if Ireland :rolleyes:

You set up the poll.. are you going to argue with anyone who votes for the candidates you don't deem to be fit for office? Why did you even include McGuinness as an option if that's the case?

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 12:54pm

It's also amazing that in almost ALL the polls I've seen on boards, MMG has came 2nd only to Higgins, which is pretty amazing, since the people that are shouting loudest, are his detractors.

meditraitor · 13-10-2011 12:57pm

McGuinnes is a bore, if I have to listen to

" myself, ian paisley and peter robinson"
" the people on the street dont care"

echo, echo.......

Even if he was never in the RA he would still be a bad candidate, He knows nothing about the south and how we feel, he should stick to norn irn politics.

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 12:58pm

meditraitor wrote: »

He knows nothing about the south and how we feel..

Who are you voting for then?

meditraitor · 13-10-2011 1:01pm

FetchTheGin wrote: »

Who are you voting for then?

For the first time in my grown up life I will not be voting, the candidates are an embarresment.......

Even the referendum are a joke, slipping them in under a pile of presidential poo so they are not examined close enough by the public,

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 1:04pm

meditraitor wrote: »

For the first time in my grown up life I will not be voting, the candidates are an embarresment.......

Even the referendum are a joke, slipping them in under a pile of presidential poo so they are not examined close enough by the public,

No real right to be complaining about MMG running then.

meditraitor · 13-10-2011 1:05pm

FetchTheGin wrote: »

No real right to be complaining about MMG running then.

Why is that?

meditraitor · 13-10-2011 1:08pm

FetchTheGin wrote: »

No real right to be complaining about MMG running then.

Unlike MMG I have been an active citizen of the Republic of Ireland all my life, MMG has been dropped in from the UK because SF believe they have enough fanboys to pull this of.... but what they dont realise is that young , full of piss and vineger men dont vote! he will be lucky to get 15%.

Zubeneschamali · 13-10-2011 1:09pm

Even if the whole field is an embarrassment, you should still be able to vote by putting the most objectionable last.

Liam Byrne · 13-10-2011 1:10pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Even if the whole field is an embarrassment, you should still be able to vote by putting the most objectionable last.

That would involve actually voting for Gallagher, Norris, Dana and Davis, though! :eek:

Zubeneschamali · 13-10-2011 1:11pm

Liam Byrne wrote: »

That would involve actually voting for Gallagher, Norris, Dana and Davis, though! :eek:

Well, yes, that's the system. Always vote for everyone on the ticket to get the most from your vote.

meditraitor · 13-10-2011 1:11pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Even if the whole field is an embarrassment, you should still be able to vote by putting the most objectionable last.

Your right of course but I really dont see the point in voting for the candidates on show, I will probably reconsider the referendum vote as I feel this is important (that I vote with consideration) .

jonniebgood1 · 13-10-2011 1:17pm

FetchTheGin wrote: »

It's also amazing that in almost ALL the polls I've seen on boards, MMG has came 2nd only to Higgins, which is pretty amazing, since the people that are shouting loudest, are his detractors.

Is it not his fans who shout loudest?

The poll would suggest he has a higher percentage of supporters on boards.ie than in reality.

pubview · 13-10-2011 1:19pm

The election will be decided on transfers and MMG is transfer-toxic.

Dempo1 · 13-10-2011 1:23pm

Just back from working abroad and caught the debate last night, watching from abroad I caught some of headlines to date, Norris out, then back in, Dana the cry baby back but maybe gone again, the Seiner's poster boy joining the race, Sean Gallagher (WTF), Mary Who, Fianna Fails silliness, Gay Mitchell, back home for another lash and Micheal D deciding he must contribute more sincerity on the nation, MOG, from a far this entire debacle seemed surreal, could this really be an Irish Presidency Election?, now I am home and saw the nonsense last night, I have discovered its all true and yet strangely surreal. Bizarre stuff and one wonders why bother. Miriam was however her usual vigorous and enjoyable self, albeit, looking as bewildered as I.

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 1:25pm

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Is it not his fans who shout loudest?

The poll would suggest he has a higher percentage of supporters on boards.ie than in reality.

So boards.ie posters aren't entitled to vote?

You only have to look at the dozen MMG threads on boards to see that his detractors are loudest.

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 1:31pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Bizarre stuff and one wonders why bother. Miriam was however her usual vigorous and enjoyable self, albeit, looking as bewildered as I.

Do you think her interviewing skills were good last night?

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 1:33pm

The Sinn Fein/ McGuinness/ IRA voices certainly seem to be the loudest on Boards.ie, just look in the Politics forum, or this Election forum & the place is littered with Pro-McGuinness guff, (some of the propaganda thinly disguised as anti-McGuinness), just so another McGuinness thread can be started. The Boards.ie polls are also totally of the wall, with McGuinness either winning the polls, or coming 2nd in most :cool:

Reality is a different place, thank God.

pubview · 13-10-2011 1:36pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Just back from working abroad and caught the debate last night, watching from abroad I caught some of headlines to date, Norris out, then back in, Dana the cry baby back but maybe gone again, the Seiner's poster boy joining the race, Sean Gallagher (WTF), Mary Who, Fianna Fails silliness, Gay Mitchell, back home for another lash and Micheal D deciding he must contribute more sincerity on the nation, MOG, from a far this entire debacle seemed surreal, could this really be an Irish Presidency Election?, now I am home and saw the nonsense last night, I have discovered its all true and yet strangely surreal. Bizarre stuff and one wonders why bother. Miriam was however her usual vigorous and enjoyable self, albeit, looking as bewildered as I.

A pity in a way that the campaign didn't go on until Halloween and then the candidates could've come on the telly for one last debate dressed in their favourite costumes.

Hmmm, I wonder who would dress up as what - any suggestions ?

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 1:37pm

LordSutch wrote: »

The Sinn Fein/ McGuinness/ IRA voices certainly seem to be the loudest on Boards.ie, just look in the Politics forum, or this Election forum & the place is littered with Pro-McGuinness guff, (some of the propaganda thinly disguised as anti-McGuinness), just so another McGuinness thread can be started. The Boards.ie polls are also totally of the wall, with McGuinness either winning the polls, or coming 2nd in most :cool:

Reality is a different place, thank God.

Throw up some links there.

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 1:42pm

No need to mate, just click on Elections, and have a look at how many McGuinness threads are running at any one time!

The same thing happened during the General Election, with Pro-Sinn Fein threads popping up all over the place at a rate of ten to one (vis a vis) all the other Political parties put together, and then SF end up with 10% of the vote.

Makes ya wonder

Bergkamp 10 · 13-10-2011 2:00pm

Lord Sutch you really are boring with your constant snipes at McGuinness we get it you hate the man. He deserved a chance to speak last night though.

It's funny really certain sections of society upper classes cant deal with the thought of him as president. Ironically the sheer volume of abuse he has taken is making him more popular.

FetchTheGin · 13-10-2011 2:01pm

LordSutch wrote: »

No need to mate, just click on Elections, and have a look at how many McGuinness threads are running at any one time!

The same thing happened during the General Election, with Pro-Sinn Fein threads popping up all over the place at a rate of ten to one (vis a vis) all the other Political parties put together, and then SF end up with 10% of the vote.

Makes ya wonder

As I suspected, like most of your "points", are empty rhetoric and media spun BS.

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 2:04pm

Bergkamp 10 wrote: »

Lord Sutch you really are boring with your constant snipes at McGuinness . . .

Constant snipes, that's ironic. Yes I hate everything he stands for, and Yes I hate the way many innocents convienently "forget" about the past atrocities of the Provo's. Yes I will be bloody glad when he doesnt make the grade and is sent packing, back to his own wee region of the UK.

Bergkamp 10 · 13-10-2011 2:08pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Constant snipes, that's ironic. Yes I hate everything he stands for, and Yes I hate the way many innocents convienently "forget" about the past atrocities of the Provo's. Yes I will be bloody glad when he doesnt make the grade and is sent packing, back to his own wee region of the UK.

Do you really think you are convincing anyone?

Every silly post you make turns more people towards McGuinness. You seem obsessed with the man even in threads nothing to do with him.

You want to constantly remind everyone about his past in every single post because you are afraid of that small chance he get elected.

I'm voting for him as are many others, deal with it. Your posts make me more sure of voting for him. I would love to see your face if he was announced as President, what a picture it would be....:D

DrumSteve · 13-10-2011 2:08pm

Bergkamp 10 wrote: »

Do you really think you are convincing anyone?

Every silly post you make turns more people towards McGuinness. You seem obsessed with the man even in threads nothing to do with him.

You want to constantly remind everyone about his past in every single post because you are afraid of that small chance he get elected.

I'm voting for him as are many others, deal with it. Your posts make me more sure of voting for him. I would love to see your face if he was announced as President, what a picture it would be....:D

Sounds like your describing Gay Mitchell

Bergkamp 10 · 13-10-2011 2:12pm

DrumSteve wrote: »

Sounds like your describing Gay Mitchell

Lord Sutch sounds like Gay Mitchell himself. Bottom of the poll so his views are not as widely accepted as he would like to think.

pubview · 13-10-2011 2:12pm

Bergkamp 10 wrote: »

I would love to see your face if he was announced as President, what a picture it would be....:D

And I'd love to see MMG's face if, having been elected President, loads of people turned the tables on him and said "We don't recognise you."

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 2:13pm

Bergkamp 10 wrote: »

I'm voting for him as are many others, deal with it. Your posts make me more sure of voting for him. I would love to see your face if he was announced as President, what a picture it would be....:D

Well I guess it would be one of total disgust & disbelief, but it won't happen, because McGuinness (the ex Provo) hasn't got a chance

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Bergkamp 10 · 13-10-2011 2:15pm

pubview wrote: »

And I'd love to see MMG's face if, having been elected President, loads of people turned the tables on him and said "We don't recognise you."

So your openly stating you wont accept the democratically voted president if it doesnt suit you.

Is it North Korea? Again the anti McGuinness extremists on here really come out in so many posts dictators telling everyone else what to do and what will be accepted .

Bergkamp 10 · 13-10-2011 2:17pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Well I guess it would be one of total disgust & disbelief, but it won't happen, because McGuinness (the ex Provo) hasn't got a chance )

Yet again you cant help yourself...:D

Do you realise every time you do this, you arent helping your aim to stop McGuinness becoming president.

Its kind of funny :pac:

pubview · 13-10-2011 2:18pm

Bergkamp 10 wrote: »

So your openly stating you wont accept the democratically voted president if it doesnt suit you.

Is it North Korea? Again the anti McGuinness extremists on here really come out in so many posts dictators telling everyone else what to do and what will be accepted .

It was a wee jokeen, person-with-foreign-footballer's-name. Lighten up.

(It's YOU'RE openly stating ... btw.)

LordSutch · 13-10-2011 2:20pm

Bergkamp 10 wrote: »

Yet again you cant help yourself...:D

Do you realise every time you do this, you arent helping your aim to stop McGuinness becoming president.

Its kind of funny :pac:

So because I post anti McGuinness posts it spurs people into forgetting his past and voting for him, Ah come on now would ya

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jonniebgood1 · 13-10-2011 2:22pm

FetchTheGin wrote: »

So boards.ie posters aren't entitled to vote?

You only have to look at the dozen MMG threads on boards to see that his detractors are loudest.

Is paranoia setting in. What part of my post said 'boards.ie posters aren't entitled to vote?'

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

Is it not his fans who shout loudest?

The poll would suggest he has a higher percentage of supporters on boards.ie than in reality.

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