Bottle of Jameson Every Night, Problem?

LegacyUser

Dear all,

I'm not exactly sure if I have an alcoholic problem or not,...long story short, I used to drink a can or two every night of a standard beer. Then I 'upgraded' to wine, and now I'm onto whiskey, drinking a 700ml bottle every night. However, the thing is, I don't drink during the day, I'm fairly happy and don't 'crave' alcohol. Then at night, it just seems habitual at this stage...rather than 'addiction'. Obviously, this has health implications, but I'm not here to look for health advice...although I am only 22. As for background, yes I am stressed out about finance, family and other stuff but drink doesn't make me depressed about these issues, I just drink around my flatmates (who admittedly at the time don't drink with me, except for weekends). What do you think of this situation?

Thanks

Beruthiel

I think anyone who drinks every single night has a problem.
It does your liver no harm to give it a few days off to regenerate.
If you are posting here in PI unregged, then it's clear you are already worried.

Test yourself, don't drink for a week.

Penn

Just try breaking the habit. If you feel you're not craving it and it's just habitual, just try and not drink, or do as your flatmates do and just have a few at the weekend. Quicker you break the habit the easier it'll be, and though you might be stressed, if you're worrying about this issue it'll only really add to the stress. Much better health-wise too

LegacyUser

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

I'm not exactly sure if I have an alcoholic problem or not,...

You've escalated your drinking to the point where you're consuming around seven or eight times the recommended maximum level of alcohol per week. You've escalated your drinking to the point where you're consuming more alcohol in a day than many social drinkers would in weeks. You have a problem alright, and it's going to end badly unless you set about ending it first. Give it up. If that doesn't work, and it may well not, go talk to your GP or contact the AA or another support group.

jester77

That's a nice but of alcohol every night, doesn't give your liver much of a break. I used to drink a nice bit when I was living on my own, used to grab a six pack on the way home from work. It was more habit than anything else as I would have one with dinner, a few while I was doing some work online and a few when I put the feet up. Find something else to occupy yourself with, even it was just something as basic as reading a book. Plus if your stressed about finances, then you would have an extra €10 or so a day if you quit the whiskey, €300 a month would help ease some of that stress.

mathproblem

If you could switch from the bottle of whiskey to a 5k run every night, or a boxing session / interval session or something else that will help burn off the stress of your finance worries/otherworries, then i'd say you dont have a problem. Any of these will send chemicals flooding around you brain and your bloodstream that will have the same effect as the whiskey of putting your day/other worries behind you except with positive health consequences instead of negative ones(but beware it is possible to become addicted to these brain chemicals aswell). If it's just a habit then switch it fron a bad one to a good one.

If you are unable to just leave the whiskey behind on your own like that then you should go speak to a doctor/line up some sort of treatment.

In short, yes you should stop drinking every night!

ash23

I just googled it so not sure of accuracy, but there's approx 28 units of alcohol in 700mls of whiskey/bourbon.
So you are drinking more than your weekly allowance(21 units) in one go.
You're consuming 7 times more alcohol than you should.

I'd suggest getting medical advice as I don't think it's safe to stop cold turkey and to be honest, it sounds like you have a serious alcohol problem. Do you ever have nights where you don't drink?

LegacyUser

Back again, thanks for all the replies thus far.

@Beruthiel/Penn: I've said for a long time to my flatmates that I would stop for a short time, but every night that arrives, I just want to relax with some alcohol. Beer doesn't really do anything for me anymore, but I'd fly through the whiskey from about 8pm-2am, conk out asleep and repeat the following night.

@Anon_123/Ash23: I appreciate there are health implications with this habit, but as I said, I'm only 22 and I dare say not much will happen at this age given I'm not overweight and eat quite well during the day. That's not to say no risk exists, but I think maybe the risk is exaggerated, if especially you drink for the whole day while not expending energy and not eating healthily.

@ the others: Thanks for the comments. I'm not really an exercise type of guy, which is a pity I admit, wish I was. The level of units is a problem however, as for 'Cold Turkey', wouldn't that be more for alcoholics or severe drug addictions like heroine.

It's 3pm now, and already I'm tempted to relax for the night with a bottle. Although I know I shouldn't.

ash23

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

Back again, thanks for all the replies thus far.

@Beruthiel/Penn: I've said for a long time to my flatmates that I would stop for a short time, but every night that arrives, I just want to relax with some alcohol. Beer doesn't really do anything for me anymore, but I'd fly through the whiskey from about 8pm-2am, conk out asleep and repeat the following night.

@Anon_123/Ash23: I appreciate there are health implications with this habit, but as I said, I'm only 22 and I dare say not much will happen at this age given I'm not overweight and eat quite well during the day. That's not to say no risk exists, but I think maybe the risk is exaggerated, if especially you drink for the whole day while not expending energy and not eating healthily.

@ the others: Thanks for the comments. I'm not really an exercise type of guy, which is a pity I admit, wish I was. The level of units is a problem however, as for 'Cold Turkey', wouldn't that be more for alcoholics or severe drug addictions like heroine.

It's 3pm now, and already I'm tempted to relax for the night with a bottle. Although I know I shouldn't.

OP I think you're kidding yourself if you think you don't have a drinking problem. You're ignoring the health risks by saying you're too young to be affected, you're justifying your drinking because you don't drink during the day. But you've said you would stop before and not been able to. And it's 3pm and you're craving a drink.

I suggest a GP visit or a trip to AA.
Of course, you need to admit you have a problem first or else nothing will change and it won't matter what anyone else here or in your life say to you about it.

PS : didn't Amy Winehouse's father say her cause of death was due to alcohol withdrawal? She was only 27.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44503268/ns/today-today_health/t/winehouses-death-points-dangers-detoxing-alone/

Get help before giving up alcohol because it can be very dangerous if you've been a heavy drinker.
(hope this doesn't cross the lines of medical advice mods)

28064212

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

as for 'Cold Turkey', wouldn't that be more for alcoholics or severe drug addictions like heroine.

If you can't go cold turkey, you are an alcoholic

tenchi-fan

It's pretty harmful for your health even though you don't think it is.
It's also quite expensive. Not a good idea if you're worried about finances.
You probably won't realise it's a problem until you try to quit and aren't able to.

Big Bag of Chips

You are in denial and making excuses...

You most certainly have an alcohol problem. The fact that you are making all the above excuses leads me to believe that.

Going cold turkey if you don't crave it shouldn't pose any risks for you. If you find out while going cold turkey that you are fact craving it... sweats/shakes etc... THEN you know you have a problem.

Tell yourself you won't have a drink tonight, and see how you get on.

Never tell yourself you are giving up completely. "One day at a time" as they say.

Decide not to have a drink tonight and see what happens.

MissFlitworth

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

I've said for a long time to my flatmates that I would stop for a short time, but every night that arrives, I just want to relax with some alcohol.

So you can't stop drinking every night?

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

@Anon_123/Ash23: I appreciate there are health implications with this habit, but as I said, I'm only 22 and I dare say not much will happen at this age given I'm not overweight and eat quite well during the day.

The risks are not exaggerated for people who drink really heavily. I know of a 24 year old alcoholic who (before he died of alcoholism) who would have been putting back around a litre/litre and a half of alcohol per day and more on 'social occasions' who ended up with severe nerve damage to his legs because of it. His father, also an alcoholic, can no longer walk. Heavy drinking can really fcuk you up no matter how healthily you eat during the day or when you drink it.

You seem to be dressing your drinking up as something lovely you do to 'relax', like sitting back 'relaxing' with a large amount of booze somehow means you couldn't possibly have a drink problem. Craving the relaxing effect of booze to the point that you can't resist having some is a craving for alcohol. If you can't stop drinking every night then you do have a problem with alcohol, no matter how much or how little you drink or the time of day you do it. If you can't cut out drinking any time you want to then you should go to your Doctor & ask for some help

LegacyUser

I take what everyone is saying on board. I always associated a so-called 'alcoholic' with one of those depressed types that literally drink all the day and are acutely stressed out from some unforeseen terrible life experience. By no means am I trying to justify drinking, just trying to place it in the right context. As for the duration of my drinking, it's almost just over a month and a half at this stage. Thanks again for the comments.

Darkginger

A bottle of whiskey a day is a lot, no matter what age you are. I managed to get up to a bottle of vodka a day myself, so I do understand, and know that it doesn't actually seem like that much when you're doing it. When you're that acclimatised to alcohol, the hangovers aren't that bad either. Fact is, it's harming you - and although the damage may not show up for many years, it's still happening.

I still drink, but not half as much as I used to - the health aspects of it worried me, which is why I decided to cut down - and I did that by, first of all, switching to wine instead of spirits (same volume, less % proof). I'd read that it was dangerous to just go cold turkey, hence the switch, but after a couple of weeks of chugging down one or two bottles of wine a night, I took an entire week off. The first night, sleeping was difficult - but after that, no problem at all.

Now I drink a bottle of wine on a Friday night, and maybe one on the Saturday too. Maybe every 6 weeks or so we'll have a bottle of vodka over a weekend (we being myself and partner), get silly drunk, dance and giggle etc.

The thing about drinking a bottle of spirits a day is that it's no fun - it stops having much of an effect after a while, and all you're doing is spending the money for no return. I also found that a lot of my habit came down to just having *something* there to drink - and nowadays a pint glass of water works as well as anything else.

It is SO good waking up in the morning feeling well - it's also good to be able to have a great night on a single bottle of wine (especially when you make your own, like I do now!).

Oh, one more tip - when I was on my bottle of vodka a night, I used to sit at the computer with the bottle next to me, and top up the glass when I'd emptied it. Leaving the vodka in the freezer, and having to make a conscious effort to go get another glass of it helped me slow down - which is how a bottle can last an entire weekend now - I just have a pint of Diet Coke in between (the DC still lives next to the puter!).

Best of luck cutting back - your older self will thank you for looking after his liver

LegacyUser

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

@Anon_123/Ash23: I appreciate there are health implications with this habit, but as I said, I'm only 22 and I dare say not much will happen at this age given I'm not overweight and eat quite well during the day. That's not to say no risk exists, but I think maybe the risk is exaggerated, if especially you drink for the whole day while not expending energy and not eating healthily.

Being overweight or not, energy use or healthy eating really aren't the point. Alcohol is poisonous. In moderate amounts, a healthy adult body can deal with it with few problems, and there are suggestions that it may even be of some benefit. You're not drinking a moderate amount, or anywhere near it. Your liver and nervous system, and potentially your heart and various other parts of your body will end up badly damaged, to the point of fatal damage, if you keep this up. Whether or not you're an alcoholic or an addict or any other label you care for doesn't change that an iota. Talk to your GP.

sharper

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

It's 3pm now, and already I'm tempted to relax for the night with a bottle. Although I know I shouldn't.

This is the root of the problem, you need to find a different way to relax. Exercise is good but since it's not your thing you'll have to find something that suits you.

Put your feet up with a cup of tea instead. If you can't then you have a problem and you need to start considering outside help. Don't explain away or justify your behaviour or it'll just get worse.

Taltos

OP - this is a tough thing for anyone to face up to.

However it is not too late to turn things around for yourself - the first step I suggest is reaching out for support - either your GP or one of the links on our charter.

Best of luck - Taltos

LegacyUser

Surely a bottle of Jameson costs the best part of €20.

Which would work out at nearly €150 a week....

If you are a student with money worries, I don't see how this is possible.

I would also fail to see how you can physically consume a bottle of whiskey every night without it effecting you the next day, or for the next couple of days.

Not sure if anyone could consume that amount of booze without suffering from some form of hangover.

Sound Bite

OP, a bottle of Jameson every night is a problem. Whether or not you are an alcoholic nor not I'm not certain but you are certainly heading that way.

Here's a very easy test.
Tomorrow evening - don't drink.
If you cannot manage without it, you are an alcoholic.
If you can manage not to drink tomorrow evening, then you can manage every evening.

Try it and see. If you have a problem, face up to it.

OwenM

I'd give you a maximum of five years to live.

Cirrhosis of the liver kicks in at that level of consumption and it's generally irreversible.

Cut back to 2-3 cans of beer, 5 nights a week, if you can't then see your GP.

Beruthiel

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

@Beruthiel/Penn: I've said for a long time to my flatmates that I would stop for a short time, but every night that arrives, I just want to relax with some alcohol.

Bells going off, lights flashing!
That's a big problem right there OP and should be enough for you do something asap before you are dragged down further.

I'm only 22 and I dare say not much will happen at this age given I'm not overweight and eat quite well during the day.

That's where you are wrong OP, I recall my sisters friend being told if she didn't stop drinking she'd be dead soon. She was 21 at the time.
You're not immortal at 22.

The level of units is a problem however, as for 'Cold Turkey', wouldn't that be more for alcoholics or severe drug addictions like heroine.

Definition of an alcoholic:
Alcoholism is a primary illness or disorder characterised by some loss of control over drinking.

Considering that you have already lost control - ie - you cannot stop, even for a night, then yes, I would consider you in the first stages of alcoholism at this point.
If you are unable to stop, get yourself help now OP.
You're only 22 with a full life ahead of you.
Stop denying you have a problem.

LegacyUser

I went through a phase of a few months of doing the same thing at the same age and like you I was too arrogant to acknowledge it was a problem. Like you I also knew it was a bad thing to be doing. I was able to get up and cycle a few miles to work the next morning, so that proved I was able to handle it. I wasn't getting sick or fat either. Like you I seemed to be unable to get drunk on beer. I thought I was something special that enabled me to drink so much without harm - this ludicrous sort of view is helped by consuming copious amounts of whisky in the first place. The thing I remember most was that my farts smelled something awful at the end of it. Quite unnatural in fact.

It was very detrimental to my health, physically and psychologically. When i stopped I was extremely nervous in general for a good while, and that seems to be comon to a lot of heavy drinkers who stop. I suppose being accustommed to a large supply of Dutch courage does nothing for your normal courage. I compared myself mentally to the brown bottle strip in viz (comic) at that stage I remember.

I didn't feel compelled to keep drinking when I decided to quit. I had been using it as a form of comfort though. A complete change of situation probably helped me stop easily. I'm pretty sure I would have found it hard to stop if I had continued like that much longer though.

iguana

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

The level of units is a problem however, as for 'Cold Turkey', wouldn't that be more for alcoholics or severe drug addictions like heroine.

Be very, very careful here. Heroin withdrawal is massively exaggerated in the media and in many cases is actually akin to a bad flu. It's unpleasant but rarely life threatening. Alcohol withdrawal for someone who is physically dependant on alcohol, however, is extremely, extremely dangerous and can cause permanent brain damage and even death.

The reason for this is that alcohol interacts very closely with a substance in our brain called gamma-Aminobutyric acid. This is our chief inhibitory neurotransmitter and is responsible for a huge amount of our physical well being. If we abuse alcohol we damage this region of the brain and the alcohol takes on a "substitute" role, meaning that suddenly stopping drinking will cause problems in every region of our body and brain that the GABA is responsible for.

I can't tell you if you are physically dependant or not, but there is a decent chance that you are with the amount you are drinking each night. The only way to find out is to stop drinking and a short time after you usually start drinking you will start feeling withdrawal symptoms, which will usually start with severe shakes and sweats and progress to vomiting and diarrhoea. If this happens you will know that you need to wean yourself slowly off alcohol or else seek medical assistance. It is possible to wean yourself down but many people find that incredibly difficult as it requires a tremendous amount of will power. Medically you can be treated with a number of medications which will help your brain adjust safely to the loss of alcohol.

There are a number of ways you can help yourself to de-stress which other posters have pointed out, such as exercise. An extremely good way for someone who was abusing alcohol to de-stress, is to practise yoga each evening. I know it may sound a bit wishy-washy but studies have shown that following a yoga session GABA production increases by 27%. This will have a very similar neurological effect as drinking alcohol, except that it's physically safe and healthy. There are yoga classes everywhere but if you don't feel like taking one you could always go over to youtube as there are numerous beginners lessons on there. An hour of yoga each evening could really help with your desire to drink.

The good news is that you are very young and are aware that your drinking is either a problem or in danger of becoming a problem. Tackling it now could help you avoid a tonne of heart ache in the future. A good website for tips and peer support is www.mywayout.org/community/ The people over there range from those who want to quit to those who can cut down successfully. They all try a range of methods like exercise, diet, hypnosis, supplements or are on different medical programmes. The idea is that they work out personal solutions. Lastly I suggest that if you do nothing else, please take a Vitamin B1, (Thiamine) supplement each day. Alcohol abuse can cause long term memory damage, especially in the withdrawal stage, and while not a panacea Thiamine is very helpful in mitigating the damage.

LegacyUser

Thanks again for all the replies. I didn't drink a whole bottle yesterday, surprisingly which actually stressed me out more than I thought. I and others noticed that I was quite agitated. When walking around the city earlier, I felt intensely paranoid, to quite an unbearable level actually. And when I tried to sleep last night, I guess it wasn't until around 5am that I slept...so quite exhausted today.
Thanks for that explanation Iguana...I'm actually trained in this area (ironically) so pretty much knew about all of that, but I guess self-denial was more important the previous few days. I've noticed today I have a small but nagging pain in my chest, which to put it mildly is starting to p*** me off. But to all the others remarks, thanks for the comments, I've taken them on board.

LegacyUser

OP, I could have written your post sometime ago, and there is some good advice on this thread, apart from all the "You're in DENIAL!!!". If you were in denial, you wouldn't have started the thread to begin with.

zagooga wrote: »

Surely a bottle of Jameson costs the best part of €20.

Which would work out at nearly €150 a week....


If you are a student with money worries, I don't see how this is possible.

I would also fail to see how you can physically consume a bottle of whiskey every night without it effecting you the next day, or for the next couple of days.

Not sure if anyone could consume that amount of booze without suffering from some form of hangover.

You would be surprised. Drinking every night your tolerance increases, and you may get to the stage where you can drink a lot and not even feel it. Which means nights out become very expensive.

The last time I drank "a lot", it was about 10 pints and 5-6 whiskies in a pub, and then home for a bottle of scotch, and I got up the next morning on time for work, no more than a bit thirsty. Obviously though I knew I needed to stop, so went cold turkey. Had minor withdrawal symptoms, which subsided after a couple of days, and then I reprogrammed my attitude. The number one thing which will help is to get a evening hobby. Preferably something out of the house.

I know you said you have money worries, but if you halved your intake, you would have about 70+ euro a week for evening entertainment. Thats a lot of money to throw at a hobby.

Dont get an xbox or whatever and say you are saving by staying in(Sure, ill drink if I go out), because it wont be long until John Jameson is staying in with you, too.

Something physical would be good too, I would suggest a martial art of some kind? Judo/Kick boxing etc. Again, not just the gym because it can get lonely, something with more of a social aspect.

Its just become a habit now, dont let it get to the stage where you are dependent. Then things get difficult.

If you're 22, why are you not out, trying to score hot women? Its what I would be doing if I was 22. At 22 you can hit on 18 year olds and not get arrested, unlike my age. Seriously, dont wake up at 40 and realise you spent the best years sipping whiskey and talking ****e with your flatmates.

BattleCorp

Nah, I don't think you have taken all the comments on board. If you took all the comments on board, you'd have gone straight to the doctor, AA etc.

Plain and simple.........YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.

Without a s**t load of alcohol you couldn't sleep, you were stressed and agitated and paranoid.

Alcohol has taken over your life.

Say what you like, agree with what other posters say, but as long as you don't do anything about YOUR PROBLEM, you aren't taking a single word on board.

Without change, you are probably headed to a miserable life and an early grave.

Only you can do something about it.

Gordon

BattleCorp wrote: »

Nah, I don't think you have taken all the comments on board. If you took all the comments on board, you'd have gone straight to the doctor, AA etc.

That's 'taking action on all the comments', 'taking comments on board' means weighing them up and considering them in line with your own position, listening to, not rejecting the comments. You take cargo on board, you don't let it take the steering wheel, but you consider carefully where you will take the cargo to achieve the best result for you.

Good luck OP, great that you are considering changing your actions at your age, if you keep drinking like that you'll end up in trouble.

Overheal

Let's see, my brother has admitted he's an alcoholic. My father has even been to AA meetings in years past. They both still don't manage to beat down a whole bottle of Jameson in one night. Or two nights. Or three. I'm pretty sure by the 4th or 5th day they're curious about the next one, but a 700ml per night is an extremely high figure. Not to mention a serious health issue. those are the kind of volumes asociated with permanent liver damage, and even liver failure, which can lead quite painfully to death. Don't believe me? Wiki it. Google it. Better yet, see your GP. Do whatever you have to do.

Thanks again for all the replies. I didn't drink a whole bottle yesterday, surprisingly which actually stressed me out more than I thought. I and others noticed that I was quite agitated. When walking around the city earlier, I felt intensely paranoid, to quite an unbearable level actually. And when I tried to sleep last night, I guess it wasn't until around 5am that I slept...so quite exhausted today.

I've noticed today I have a small but nagging pain in my chest, which to put it mildly is starting to p*** me off.

Withdrawal symptoms, likely. A world better than liver failure though. I'll never look at a beer belly in the same light again.

LegacyUser

OP, you need to get help and you need to get it now.

My mother drank a similar amount to you everyday. She now has permanent brain damage and a heart condition and many many other problems. I wish I could bring you to meet her. You seem to be in total denial about this.

Also someone else has already said it but withdrawing from alcohol is lethally dangerous. Believe me my mother learned this the hard way. You need to go to a professional for advice.

harrythehat

OP as someone else has said - you're 22! No need to be staying in every night downing whiskey. It sounds like you're in college - get involved in clubs and socs. From sports to drama, politics, debating, journalism and so many more you're bound to find something that will get you out of the house and meeting people in a non-alcoholic setting.

I am a friend

Op you really have to be kidding us or yourself if you are on here asking if a bottle of whiskey per day is too much. Come on....

username123

I am a friend wrote: »

Op you really have to be kidding us or yourself if you are on here asking if a bottle of whiskey per day is too much. Come on....

Yes, I couldnt agree more with this. Youre 22, an adult. Its perfectly obvious that a bottle of whiskey a day is a problem. Get help.

Miss Fluff

anonymousalcoholic wrote: »

Thanks again for all the replies. I didn't drink a whole bottle yesterday, surprisingly which actually stressed me out more than I thought. I and others noticed that I was quite agitated. When walking around the city earlier, I felt intensely paranoid, to quite an unbearable level actually. And when I tried to sleep last night, I guess it wasn't until around 5am that I slept...so quite exhausted today.
Thanks for that explanation Iguana...I'm actually trained in this area (ironically) so pretty much knew about all of that, but I guess self-denial was more important the previous few days. I've noticed today I have a small but nagging pain in my chest, which to put it mildly is starting to p*** me off. But to all the others remarks, thanks for the comments, I've taken them on board.

I hope you didn't drink last night.

I think you've gotten a lot of great advice on this thread. For your own health I think it's really important that you consult a GP as a matter of urgency however. Going cold turkey off your own bat is extremely dangerous. I'm not for one moment suggesting you go and buy a bottle of whiskey on the way home to counteract that but I do think if you're giving up the booze it needs to be under medical supervision - they will most likely prescribe you something to help you sleep/calm you down over the next week or so and advise you on the best way to go about it.

And don't say you can't afford GP fees - it's the same as a couple of bottles of whiskey.

Mister Dread

OP some left field thinking here. You should change from jameson to one of tesco or aldis whuskrys. Not the cheapest stuff but you should find an extra 40 quid a week in your pocket. You could spend a night shopping or at he cinema with that and have even less need for whiskey. You then cut back to tesco value whiskey. Again even more savings and you'd be less inclined to drink itas much. Eventually id like to see you just treat yourself once or twice a week with a bottle of jameson which is manageable.

I've helped a few acquaintances with this method and its worked a treat.

flahavaj

Mister Dread wrote: »

OP some left field thinking here. You should change from jameson to one of tesco or aldis whuskrys. Not the cheapest stuff but you should find an extra 40 quid a week in your pocket. You could spend a night shopping or at he cinema with that and have even less need for whiskey. You then cut back to tesco value whiskey. Again even more savings and you'd be less inclined to drink itas much. Eventually id like to see you just treat yourself once or twice a week with a bottle of jameson which is manageable.

I've helped a few acquaintances with this method and its worked a treat.

Ridiculous post. Its not the brand thats the problem its the alcohol FFS.

Taltos

All - please keep responses on-topic and constructive to the OP.

Medical or alternative treatment advice is not within our remit here.
Similarly if anyone has an issue with a post - report it. Criticisms of a post inthread just result in threads like this being dragged off topic.

As always if you have not read our charter or if it has been a while you can find it here.

Taltos

tenchi-fan

Mister Dread wrote: »

I've helped a few acquaintances with this method and its worked a treat.

Op should also nip over the border where duties are lower. Perhaps find a cash and carry

Taltos

Final reminder all - keep your posts on-topic and constructive to the issue at hand.
Advice on where to get cheap alcohol is not constructive advice to a potential alcoholic.

Taltos

LegacyUser

Hey all,
I'm back with an update
I've practically stopped with the Jameson, haven't purchased a bottle of it since my last post which I never saw coming if I'm honest. In that interval, I purchased wine, and then downgraded to beer, and now only had a beer or two maybe twice a week. This may sound easy on the face of it, but I can assure you it was most certainly not. I had many sleep disturbances for the first few nights, and found it difficult to essentially 'replace' that void every night. However, I'm richer; both bank and health wise!

So thanks again for all the advice, I've obviously come out the other end without a bottle in my hand. Appreciated!

That's what this forum is for....reform. I guess you could then call Personal Issues a 'Reforum' :-)

Miss Fluff

Wow, that's great progress OP. Well done

I am a friend

Well done op - that's a fantastic achievement :cool:

LegacyUser

Fair play to you!
Its great to read some good news for a change!
At 22 your whole life is ahead of you...so make the very most of it!
Thanks for the update...I have a fuzzy feeling of pride in me little heart for you.
That may sound silly...but was thrilled to read your update.
Thanks...and a heartfelt WELL DONE!

neuro-praxis

OP, I think this is a problem that will re-occur. I'm not sure you have found the solution you think you have. I've yet to meet an alcoholic who can have a "beer or two" once or twice a week.

I wish you all the best, but I doubt this is the end of your troubles. I suggest a trip to your doctor asap.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Well done. A ten glass of jameson was some going. I binge drink a fair bit being a student but a bottle of jameson would have me wrote off.

Going forward just don't ever bullsh*t yourself. Alcohol's a powerful drug and we have to respect that.

Boskowski

Seriously! What is going on here? Whether you have a problem or not? Try give it up for a day? May cause damage in years to come? May become an alcoholic? Just relaxing?

I think the OP is not the only one in denial here.
Anyone who works themselves up to a bottle of Jameson a night is a full blown alcoholic. No maybes and also no early stages. This is serious sh1t and it will only get worse from here!!!

OP you need to address this immediately. See your GP about it and check out what other help you can get. And I mean now before you p1ss your youth and health and mental capabilities away. I may also remind you that alcohol is actually toxic.

PS: I wrote this before reading page 3 and was going to delete my post. However I thought about and will leave it here because I really think that people have a misconception over alcoholism. I would also like the OP to think about how close he was.
In any case I'm delighted to hear you turned the corner. Please don't ever go back there.

Overheal

Very glad to hear your update OP being around a couple people myself that drink excessively >_>

I'll only chime what others are thinking, that this is something that you want to be conscious of over time, that you don't end up creeping back into the same pattern over time.

Good on you though. It might be a good idea to set up reminders for yourself: as in, set something up through your calendar or email that will remind you every month to 3 months or something for you to self-check how you've been getting on within that time frame.