FS:Specialized S-Works E5 road bike

ckeego

Specialized S-Works E5 road bike

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Built using their S-Works pro race technology and aero tube shape design. WCS winning frame, I believe...

Columbus E5 aluminium tubing with full S-Works carbon fork - most guys who know frames will tell you that an alu frame of this standard is far better than all but the very best and very expensive carbon frames

Very light and super stiff frame, and awesome ride
Size 56cm sloping with 56.5cm top tube

Ltd edition matt black

Specialized S-Works carbon seat post with insert

Full Campag Chorus 10 speed carbon groupset, incl carbon levers, carbon chainset and carbon rear mech

Campag Khamsin wheels (only 3 months old) with Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX tyres (or Gatorskins...Your choice)

Fizik Arione saddle

BBB bars with Lizard Skinbar tape (Or Zipp OS Bar with SRAM cork tape, again your choice)

Specialized bottle cages

(no pedals)

Everything runs perfectly and smoothly, with new chain and cassette.

In fact, I will throw in both a 10-23 and a 13-26 cassette (both brand new)

Gruppo is AS NEW and is worth selling price alone!

Paint work is immaculate apart from slight wear on one of the decals on the top tube (see picture)
Slight tear in one of the brake hoods, replacing these is the only thing required to make perfect
2008 model bike so 3 years old but absolutely mint - bike has actually been in the attic for the past year
Cost over €3,000 in 2008

It is a very reluctant sale but unf have no choice..

875 euro

ckeego

Surely some interest? Ideal winter training bike...

autotrader

I'd love it but just bought a spesh allez elite on the bike to work. looks great value to me

ckeego

autotrader wrote: »

I'd love it but just bought a spesh allez elite on the bike to work. looks great value to me

Thanks for the comment:)

Forgot to mention in the ad that this also comes with both an ITM carbon stem 110mm and also a standard alloy SMICA stem also 110mm

BBB bars are 26 and the (brand new) Zipps are OS with an FSA OS stem (90mm)

All are available to ensure a comfy fit!!;)

gerrybmw

Don't suppose you would consider selling the Chorus goupset seperetely?

fat bloke

gerrybmw wrote: »

Don't suppose you would consider selling the Chorus goupset seperetely?

If you did, I'd be interested in the frame and forks only (and possibly seat post and saddle). Subject to fitting and price.

ckeego

gerrybmw wrote: »

Don't suppose you would consider selling the Chorus goupset seperetely?

Hi gerry..
I'd prefer to sell the entire bike if at all possible.

Oldlegs was telling me he was down with you last week..I'm just up the road from you in Greystones..

Even if you weren't to use the frame,bars, saddle, seatpost, wheels, tyres, stems etc the groupset is spotless and worth a good chunk of the asking!

Personally, it would be a shame to dissect the entire bike-come and have a look if you are around on the weekend

fat bloke

ckeego wrote: »

Hi gerry..
I'd prefer to sell the entire bike if at all possible.

Oldlegs was telling me he was down with you last week..I'm just up the road from you in Greystones..

Even if you weren't to use the frame,bars, saddle, seatpost, wheels, tyres, stems etc the groupset is spotless and worth a good chunk of the asking!

Personally, it would be a shame to dissect the entire bike-come and have a look if you are around on the weekend

In that case - same offer to Gerry!. Buy the bike, sell me the frame!

ckeego

fat bloke wrote: »

In that case - same offer to Gerry!. Buy the bike, sell me the frame!

There's an offer!! @gerry might get himself a nice gruppo at a knockdown price!!!:)

@fat bloke..If gerry is acceptable to this, will you let me know what stem, bars that you want?

Cheers, fellas.

fat bloke

And it's a fabulous, top notch groupset, must be worth at least 600 quid alone .

I'm booked in for a bike fitting this saturday morning so if y'all can stall the beans until then hopefully I'll know all my measurements and at that point I'd be in a position to go see the bike (built up if possible please) and cast a leg, and a cold eye, over it.

Meantime, if you wanna have a think about how you value the bits individually - I don't need the wheels etc, I've a shimano shed

Oldlegs

I'll throw my tuppence in the ring also -
Interested in the OS bars and have a friend who would take the 90mm OS Stem.

Those wheels have to be worth a look too.

It would be a terrible shame to split the bike up, BUT, a broker could do very well here.

You could either put some individual prices on the parts, OR, a few bidders could chat together a put a single offer on the table for you (which I think is within forum rules).

(As I told you, I need to stop visiting this cycling/ads forum )

shamwari

I already got a new road bike recently, but can I say OP that that bike is a great buy for that money. Hope you sell it to someone worthy of it.

Dangerous Dave

Hi Ckeego. I sold you this bike not so long ago, at a great deal too. Why you selling so soon? I'd be interested in taking the wheels back, with tyres and the 11-23 cassette, so if three of the lads are taking frame, group and cockpit, you could have a team of 4 buyers. Willing to get the ball rolling with €50 offer for the wheels. Can collect tomorrow. maybe the rest if lads could row in with offers that get you a total close to your asking price ........ lads?
Cheers

Oldlegs

Currently trying to work things out with Fat Bloke and gerrbmw - looking at the OS Bars&Wheels myself - will keep you posted.

Cracking bike, btw. Hoping to put ckeego out of his misery soon

ckeego

Dangerous Dave wrote: »

Hi Ckeego. I sold you this bike not so long ago, at a great deal too. Why you selling so soon? I'd be interested in taking the wheels back, with tyres and the 11-23 cassette, so if three of the lads are taking frame, group and cockpit, you could have a team of 4 buyers. Willing to get the ball rolling with €50 offer for the wheels. Can collect tomorrow. maybe the rest if lads could row in with offers that get you a total close to your asking price ........ lads?
Cheers

Hi Dave..
The bike is a cracking piece (as you know!) but unfortunately, I have had a couple of weeks bad luck with my bikes...

It will mean that I am selling both my Trek (now sold for parts as frame had a drop out incident!) and the S works and will be just settling on the one bike...The S is a great bike and whilst I am sure (given time) I could get a lot more for it, it is only fair to pass it on at the same as I got it for

Indeed, I am willing to throw in the extra cassette and give the potential buyer the choice of stems, tyres etc.

To the rest of ye hungry vultures!!!
All seem to be interested in different parts etc.
As Old legs said, it is in someones best interest to buy the bike as a whole unit at the asking and then divide it up.
Depending on whichever stem and bar the buyer decides on, I am very happy to pass on the unwanted tyres, stems, bars etc at a minimal cost, but WOULD prefer to sell the bike as a whole.

I will be resurrecting the Trek parts myself to build a new machine, so won't be off the road for too long!!:D

seandoiler

ckeego wrote: »

Hi Dave..
The bike is a cracking piece (as you know!) but unfortunately, I have had a couple of weeks bad luck with my bikes...

It will mean that I am selling both my Trek (now sold for parts as frame had a drop out incident!) and the S works and will be just settling on the one bike...The S is a great bike and whilst I am sure (given time) I could get a lot more for it, it is only fair to pass it on at the same as I got it for

Indeed, I am willing to throw in the extra cassette and give the potential buyer the choice of stems, tyres etc.

To the rest of ye hungry vultures!!!
All seem to be interested in different parts etc.
As Old legs said, it is in someones best interest to buy the bike as a whole unit at the asking and then divide it up.
Depending on whichever stem and bar the buyer decides on, I am very happy to pass on the unwanted tyres, stems, bars etc at a minimal cost, but WOULD prefer to sell the bike as a whole.

I will be resurrecting the Trek parts myself to build a new machine, so won't be off the road for too long!!:D

Offer 750

ckeego

seandoiler wrote: »

Offer 750

Sorry, but too low...Need to get a bit closer to the asking...

seandoiler

ckeego wrote: »

Sorry, but too low...Need to get a bit closer to the asking...

well seeing as you purchased the bike from an ad on boards for €800 a couple of months ago, i'm going to leave my offer stand open for the time being

ckeego

seandoiler wrote: »

well seeing as you purchased the bike from an ad on boards for €800 a couple of months ago, i'm going to leave my offer stand open for the time being

Fully understood, seandoiler, but I have also had it fully serviced, put a brand new set of Gatorskins and tubes on as well as purchasing a new ITM carbon stem, a Zipp bar and SRAM tape, an FSA stem and a brand new Campy cassette, which if you were to choose that particular set up;) to ride away on, would cost you an extra 300 euro minimum.

Conservatively, the gruppo is worth in the region of 5 to 600 euro, I have spent the above on it as well and as Dave said above, the bike was sold to me at an excellent price..

If you went to 800, you can have the bike as it was sold to me by Dave (BBB 26 speedbar, SMICA stem, Corsa EVO tyres)

I can then pass on the stem and OS bars to Oldlegs.

ckeego

@gerrybmw...
To keep everyone's options open, how much are you willing to pay for the gruppo?
I have tried to source a frame to semi replace the Madone (without calling in NAMA:rolleyes:) and I may consider building up the Spesh frame with the gruppo and bits from the other bike
Let me know...

Oldlegs

Still hopeful of getting 3 of us together much closer to your asking.
But if you want to revert to the original set-up and take an offer of €800 I will take the other bits for the difference.
I am just here to help

ckeego

Oldlegs wrote: »

Still hopeful of getting 3 of us together much closer to your asking.
But if you want to revert to the original set-up and take an offer of €800 I will take the other bits for the difference.
I am just here to help

Cheers for that:)

To be 100% fair, seandoiler was first in with an offer for the entire bike. If he raises to 800, the original bike is his and remaining spare parts can be divvied out.

Still see a killing to be made from someone offering the asking and getting their choice of goodies!!!:D and the division of the spoils!

Just bear in mind that it is NOT a joblot at 875 (you will only get a choice of bar and stem and tyres) and remember as per the original ad that the LOOK pedals aren't included...

C'mon, Oldlegs...I know your the man for the lot! You'll easily shift the Planet X!!:)

ckeego

Ok...Here we go:D

As there has been no whole offer close enough to the asking, I am willing in the absence of a whole offer (hint hint!!) to accept sensible offers on the individual lots..

1. Entire Campag chorus groupset only (gerrybmw, perhaps)Easily worth the price of the entire bike.

2.Campag Khamsin wheelset with ONE cassette (I don't feel 50 euro is a sensible offer for an as new wheelset and cassette;) The wheels alone are about 140 on Wiggle and the cassette cost 65 euro 3 weeks ago)

3. Brand new Zipp OS bars with SRAM cork tape (Oldlegs, definitely)

4.BBB speed bar, ITM carbon stem and SMICA stem (all 26 diameter)

5...The whole shooting gallery for 875 (change of heart, I know, but I need to get sorted in the next day or 2.)

This would be an excellent opportunity for say Oldlegs and seandoiler to work together, or indeed gerrybmw and Oldlegs and I'll keep the frame:D

I'll probably incur a charge in getting the bike stripped, so keep the offers sensible.
The ONLY option I won't accept is the frame only or splitting the groupset...Sure then it would only get messy:p

fat bloke

Jaysus man, can you wait 12 hours til I get me bike fitting done!!? :rolleyes:

What's your frame/fork price anyway?

chakattack

What condition are the Vittoria Tyres in?

Is it a chorus cassette 11-23 10 speed in great condition? Drivetrain looks a bit dirty in the pic.

I might be interested in making an offer for the wheels, tyres and cassette

What length are the cranks?

ckeego

fat bloke wrote: »

Jaysus man, can you wait 12 hours til I get me bike fitting done!!? :rolleyes:

What's your frame/fork price anyway?

12 hrs..You're on the clock!! Time waits for no man!!

Won't be selling the frame/fork seperately, I'm afraid..If the bike is stripped, I'll hold onto the frame and start again from scratch

Where are you being fitted? I'm 6'1 and the 56 is a perfect fit

Let me know how you get on!

ckeego

chakattack wrote: »

What condition are the Vittoria Tyres in?

Is it a chorus cassette 11-23 10 speed in great condition? Drivetrain looks a bit dirty in the pic.

I might be interested in making an offer for the wheels, tyres and cassette

What length are the cranks?

52-39 and 170mm.It's nice and clean and I'll be sure to polish it!

The cassette is indeed a Chorus 11-23 and is spotless as I changed it off for the hills we have down here!

TBH, the Vittorias are in OK condition..loads of side grip there but they knick a bit on loose chippings..Grand for training spins. The Gatorskins that are currently on the Campag Khamsins are in mint condition and the tubes and rim tape are brand new front and back.
Also a 13-26 Centaur cassette-brand new from a few weeks back.

Wheels in particularly good condition and ideal for the winter runs..

Oldlegs

Offer €40 for OS bars.

Hopefully this gets things moving on the rest :-)

Dangerous Dave

hey ckeego, now you have two firm offers (bars and wheels) and you're already up to 90 quid. I'd like the wheels, but you can buy those wheels for 85 quid sterling, plus i gave you a good deal on the whole bike in the first place, and a pair of free pedals you talked me into, so you owe me a favour ; )

I tell you what, I'll take the wheels back for my original offer of €50, but without tyres or any cassette. You can then get an extra 40 for the cassette and 30 for the tyres seperately and you'll be quids in.

If you sell those two items to me and oldlegs you'll be off and running and the rest of the lads will row in with offers for the group etc then. Don't delay, you might lose us all ; )

ckeego

How ye all keeping this morning?;)

Here we go on the merries again!!

@ Oldlegs...Offer accepted at 40 euro..Always a pleasure to deal with, I know your haunts so will meet up over the weekend!

@ Dave...A great politician! Offer for the wheels only accepted at 50 euro. You are indeed owed a favour or 2! But;) I did slip you an extra 30 for the pedals!! My missus keeps reminding me of this as I had to run back into the house and get it leaving you with BOTH the bike and the cash outside!! You should have hopped in the car quicker!!!
Can I interest you in that pro level ratio cassette too? Go on, you know you need one!!

@ The rest...The entire bike with groupset, original bars, stems, seatpost, saddle cabling etc still up for grabs.

BUT only as an entire bike or groupset only. I won't be selling the frame on it's own, for the moment. I need a frame to put an Ultegra gruppo on from another bike.
Based on Dave's pricing of wheels, or for those with wheels only, I will accept an offer of

Bike without wheels...700

Groupset only..450 euro

fat bloke

Well if Gerrybmw was happy to pay 450 for groupset i'd row in with the 250 difference to secure the frame & fork for myself.

If it fits! Obviously.

I'm a tad worried that the fork has been cut down too far.

If it was allowed, I'm in Wicklow this morning for bike fitting. OP is in Wicklow as well i believe and i could take a quick look at it afterwards and rule it in/out?

ckeego

fat bloke wrote: »

Well if Gerrybmw was happy to pay 450 for groupset i'd row in with the 250 difference to secure the frame & fork for myself.

If it fits! Obviously.

I'm a tad worried that the fork has been cut down too far.

If it was allowed, I'm in Wicklow this morning for bike fitting. OP is in Wicklow as well i believe and i could take a quick look at it afterwards and rule it in/out?

Howdy...
I'm sure that's fine, but I am up to my tonsils this morning..If you are around before 1130, I'm in Greystones..I have sent you a PM with my number. Just to clarify though, I won't sell the frame on it's own without a buyer for the rest of the bike.
CK

chakattack

ckeego wrote: »

52-39 and 170mm.It's nice and clean and I'll be sure to polish it!

The cassette is indeed a Chorus 11-23 and is spotless as I changed it off for the hills we have down here!

TBH, the Vittorias are in OK condition..loads of side grip there but they knick a bit on loose chippings..Grand for training spins. The Gatorskins that are currently on the Campag Khamsins are in mint condition and the tubes and rim tape are brand new front and back.
Also a 13-26 Centaur cassette-brand new from a few weeks back.

Wheels in particularly good condition and ideal for the winter runs..

The vittoria tyres were the main selling point for me and you're selling the wheels to Dave so I'm out, thanks.

fat bloke

Seems a 56 is my size alright, so I'm interested in the frame & forks, but it seems I need a partner in crime to take the groupset.

If anyone's interested, speak now or forever hold thy dura-ace :rolleyes:

Alternatively, if the OP changes his mind, I'm good for the frame, forks (and saddle and seatpost actually if they're available), cash in the chamber and ready to pull the trigger.

fat bloke

Just thinking out loud here. - If I went for the frame and groupset.... Everything I have in my shed is shimano, so I'd be stuck for cassette and wheels wouldn't I? All my wheels are shimano cassettes, which means shimano hubs, so I'd need new wheels as well.

Ah no, fcuk it, not worth the hassle.

As you were.:rolleyes:

chakattack

If you decide to split I'll offer 100 for cranks, bottom bracket (assuming it's english thread), rear mech and chain.

The groupset is not worth 450. It's from 2007 at the latest. 11 Speed ergopower was brought out in 2008. I'd put more value on the frame than the group to be honest (sorry Fat bloke....)

Dangerous Dave

To be fair, the groupset is worth damn near 450. 11 speed didn't come out til 09, and it'd cost clues to a grand

chakattack

I know Chorus is probably better, but older series used ultegra groups have been selling here for 200-300.

It's worth is whatever the market is willing to pay I suppose.

ckeego

chakattack wrote: »

If you decide to split I'll offer 100 for cranks, bottom bracket (assuming it's english thread), rear mech and chain.

The groupset is not worth 450. It's from 2007 at the latest. 11 Speed ergopower was brought out in 2008. I'd put more value on the frame than the group to be honest (sorry Fat bloke....)

100 euro?? In fairness chakattack, that's an insult:mad: Dave will back me up on this..Despite your strange comment about the drive looking dirty in the picture, the entire gruppo is spotless, with minimal mileage and is as new.

FFS 100 euro? A basic Campag chain is around 50 euro, and a chainset on clearance and 45% reduced is 300 sterling which is nearly 350 euro at the moment. And that's not even half the effing gruppo.

Sorry, but that's timewasting.

ckeego

Dangerous Dave wrote: »

To be fair, the groupset is worth damn near 450. 11 speed didn't come out til 09, and it'd cost clues to a grand

Spot on..It's 1100 in Fitzcycles today. Thank you, Dave. A fair man as always.

ckeego

fat bloke wrote: »

Just thinking out loud here. - If I went for the frame and groupset.... Everything I have in my shed is shimano, so I'd be stuck for cassette and wheels wouldn't I? All my wheels are shimano cassettes, which means shimano hubs, so I'd need new wheels as well.

Ah no, fcuk it, not worth the hassle.

As you were.:rolleyes:

Get yourself a Campag free hub for 35 euro and you would be sorted...Simple job apparently.

AND Minimal messing around with stripping out groupsets etc...

She is all polished up and ready to rock....

chakattack

ckeego wrote: »

chakattack wrote: »

If you decide to split I'll offer 100 for cranks, bottom bracket (assuming it's english thread), rear mech and chain.

The groupset is not worth 450. It's from 2007 at the latest. 11 Speed ergopower was brought out in 2008. I'd put more value on the frame than the group to be honest (sorry Fat bloke....)

100 euro?? In fairness chakattack, that's an insult:mad: Dave will back me up on this..Despite your strange comment about the drive looking dirty in the picture, the entire gruppo is spotless, with minimal mileage and is as new.

FFS 100 euro? A basic Campag chain is around 50 euro, and a chainset on clearance and 45% reduced is 300 sterling which is nearly 350 euro at the moment. And that's not even half the effing gruppo.

Sorry, but that's timewasting.

I think it's a realistic offer. Again full ultegra groups (with hollow bb) selling for 250.

I bought a new centaur ultratorque crankset recently for 60 online. A new centaur chain is about 30 and weighs about 4g less than the chorus equivalent. The rear mech is equivalent to current centaur or veloce in terms of weight and performs the same.


The 11 speed group is completely different and much better so there's no comparison. It can also be had for much less than 1100

I think your overvaluing old and used equipment, what price would you accept?

ckeego

chakattack wrote: »

I think it's a realistic offer. Again full ultegra groups (with hollow bb) selling for 250.

I bought a new centaur ultratorque crankset recently for 60 online. A new centaur chain is about 30 and weighs about 4g less than the chorus equivalent. The rear mech is equivalent to current centaur or veloce in terms of weight and performs the same.


The 11 speed group is completely different and much better so there's no comparison. It can also be had for much less than 1100

I think your overvaluing old and used equipment, what price would you accept?

If you see one of those full Ultegra groupsets for 250, buy 2 and I'll take on off ya!! Cos, I sure as heck haven't seen one!

You are probably barking at the wrong branch in terms of thinking I would let the groupset go for that type of money.

Centaur is very much the lower end of Campag and I would also value Dangerous Dave's assessment. Centaur most definitely doesn't perform the same as Chorus, 4 g or not. I shift well more than 4g each time I visit the boy's room either way..

Being stuck in a bit of a quandry and trying to get back on the road is where I am at and if it means building up this frame from scratch, I will.

But in the meantime I would ask that you not refer to me as overvaluing old and used equipment.

Anyone that has dealt with me will tell you that I am fair in my dealings and if the other side of the deal is fair and straight, I am more than happy to go half way.

@Fatbloke..I would strongly advise to buy and split with gerrybmw or fit the campag free hub. I'll throw in the Gatorskins to sweeten the deal.

@chakattack...The bike is a stunner. I am (as I have stated) not going splitting the bike. You make a sensible (400 euro plus) offer on the entire gruppo or please withdraw and stop making disparraging remarks either to me or trying to ruin the deal for fatbloke. If you value the gruppo at 100 and he the frame at 250, it comes up a tad short of the asking...

Thks.
Ck.

PortLN

I'd offer c250 for the groupset. It is at least 5 years old as it is pre-ultra torque BB set up (looks like a square taper chainset). That to me is a fair price.

chakattack

I believe Dirk Voodoo was selling an ultegra group at 250 asking.

The technology is generally passed down the groups each year...Chorus to Centaur etc., well except for recently when they downgraded with all that powertorque stuff. The 2007/2008 chorus rear mech is identical to the 2009 centaur version.

The bottom bracket alone weighs around 200g compared to 50g for ultratorque cups so there's no denying that it is old technology.

The front mech is only good for standard chainsets, you can swap between compact and standard (with ease...) with the newer gear.

The old shape levers aren't as comfortable (for me anyway, but some do prefer them....)

Anyway no point debating the merits of the groupset caste system and old vs. new.... I don't need any of this stuff but would take them at a reasonable price. My offer stands if you change your mind or if you want to propose a price for the chainset and bb alone I'd be interested.

The frameset is very nice, I had a similar columbus alu frame and it was a dream to ride, it's worth more than 250 and I'd be making a good offer if it was my size.

chakattack

ckeego wrote: »

@chakattack... If you value the gruppo at 100 and he the frame at 250, it comes up a tad short of the asking...

Thks.
Ck.

In case you picked me up wrongly...I offered 100 for cranks, bb, rear mech and chain. Not the full group...You have shifters, cassette, front mech and brakes left over.

The shifters are the money maker.

ckeego

chakattack wrote: »

I believe Dirk Voodoo was selling an ultegra group at 250 asking.

The technology is generally passed down the groups each year...Chorus to Centaur etc., well except for recently when they downgraded with all that powertorque stuff. The 2007/2008 chorus rear mech is identical to the 2009 centaur version.

The bottom bracket alone weighs around 200g compared to 50g for ultratorque cups so there's no denying that it is old technology.

The front mech is only good for standard chainsets, you can swap between compact and standard (with ease...) with the newer gear.

The old shape levers aren't as comfortable (for me anyway, but some do prefer them....)

Anyway no point debating the merits of the groupset caste system and old vs. new.... I don't need any of this stuff but would take them at a reasonable price. My offer stands if you change your mind or if you want to propose a price for the chainset and bb alone I'd be interested.

The frameset is very nice, I had a similar columbus alu frame and it was a dream to ride, it's worth more than 250 and I'd be making a good offer if it was my size.

Well, Now you know why I wanted to sell the bike as a whole!:)

I personally rate the groupset, and most definitely rate the frame..

My money is on Fatbloke closing the deal.

ckeego

PortLN wrote: »

I'd offer c250 for the groupset. It is at least 5 years old as it is pre-ultra torque BB set up (looks like a square taper chainset). That to me is a fair price.

I know Fatbloke is strongly considering purchasing the entire bike but as I stated earlier in the thread, I will sell the entire gruppo as a whole.

It is spotless and has minimal mileage.

I am strongly leaning towards keeping the frame if the groupset doesn't make a reasonable price

Chain is new, it comes with 2 cassettes one of which is only a couple of weeks old and the brakes come with as new Swisstop blocks.

The brake hoods need a new pair if you are fussy.

I was willing to haggle to 400 and I will drop 20 to replace the hoods, so I will accept 380.

The Bike still presents a lot better value at 700 though

Tonyandthewhale

Any interest in selling the shifters seperately?

fat bloke

No, I was never really in the whole bike purchase game tbh. 250 was probably ambitious for the frame but 700 is too rich for my blood, I can't afford that. If I had that kind of money, I'd buy the Canyon roadlite for 999, brand new, shimano components to suit my shed and wheels to boot.

I'm not playing hard to get. I'm still willing to pay a fair price for frame and forks but OP has been pretty consistent saying that he's not prepared to sell frame and fork seperately so.

Whaddya gonna do?

ckeego

@ FatBloke..When you say 250 was ambitious for the frame, do you mean ambitious by me or by you?

As there seems to be various interest in the groupset or parts thereof, make an offer on the frameset, seatpost and saddle.

The reason I was keen to sell a whole bike was pending half a day stripping out the bike, half a day then arranging collection of 4 or 5 lots of parts with people.

It was a 3000 dollar frame alone less than 5 yrs ago, fitted with a bloody good groupset.

Whilst I understand your point about the Canyon, these bikes are not exactly comparable. This frame is a top end frame that is still a long way ahead of the Canyon in build and quality.

What you are not factoring in about the Canyon is that you are taking a risk with a bike that you cannot try out first and by first hand accounts, their sizing is quirky. You will also have to factor in delivery and a bikebuild on top of your thousand euro.

As I said, make a sensible offer on the frameset etc and I will deal with the groupset.

Otherwise, I will strip the frame and sell the groupset from tomorrow.