Clip of someone running over the top of a set scrum

BOHtox

I am pretty sure I saw a video once of a player receiving the ball from the scrum and then running on top of the scrum while it was still set.
1- Has this happened or did I just dream it?
2- Can someone direct me to a video of it?

Thanks

ps, I'm thinking it might have been a Welsh player.

BOHtox

Anyone at all?

CatFromHue

Nope you didn't dream it as I've seen to too.

Just not sure where.

Badgermonkey

Remember it too, long time since I've seen it, but my recall is telling me it was possibly US or Canadian footage.

[Jackass]

probably not the one you're thinking of, but have seen it many times in many videos...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUiI1bb_ks

Badgermonkey

Not it no, but that does bring back how bad Australian TV is. The above was most likely prime time viewing and exhibits above average production values.

PhatPiggins

[Jackass] wrote: »

probably not the one you're thinking of, but have seen it many times in many videos...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUiI1bb_ks

Did the try stand?

tolosenc

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Did the try stand?

I hope not.

Red card for stamping?

Johnnio13

Years ago on the Rugby show on Sunday's on BBC2 there was a clip of the scrum half going over the top of the scrum in the opening credits. I thought it was class at the time.But being a lock forward I never fancied a fat scrum half running over me.

leakyboots

Especially not that Tongan lad...

Flincher

Again, not the one you're thinking of, but a smashing finish by Andy Ellis from a few years back. He's lucky to land on his arse the way he gets flipped by the winger at the side of the ruck, and then hit by the 6 on his way down.

EDIT: I'm being a bit special with the youtube thingy, link HERE

I also remember seeing a photo of Christian Cullen in a Hurricanes jersey jumping over a ruck, but I've never been able to find a clip of it.

molloyjh

Flincher wrote: »

Again, not the one you're thinking of, but a smashing finish by Andy Ellis from a few years back. He's lucky to land on his arse the way he gets flipped by the winger at the side of the ruck, and then hit by the 6 on his way down.

EDIT: I'm being a bit special with the youtube thingy, link HERE

I also remember seeing a photo of Christian Cullen in a Hurricanes jersey jumping over a ruck, but I've never been able to find a clip of it.

I know we're meant to be looking at the ridiculous try, but I can't get over the ridiculous defending in that clip! :eek:

Talk about ball watching...

Reloc8

tolosenc wrote: »

I hope not.

Red card for stamping?

Couldn't possibly have stood legitimately.

That looks like an uncontested scrum to me, yet there are quite a lot of people in the stands - I wonder if it was an exhibition/jolly of some kind and the jog over the scrum a preplanned sort of thing.

Do that in any ordinary game and expect a red for dangerous play from any competent ref.

[Jackass]

I'd imagine it's dangerous play, penalty defending team. If you clean hurdle it however (i.e. not use your boots) it would be ok.

The Aussie

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Not it no, but that does bring back how bad Australian TV is. The above was most likely prime time viewing and exhibits above average production values.

You dont watch RTE much I presume.

PhatPiggins

The Aussie wrote: »

You dont watch RTE much I presume.

Are we a bit delicate today? State television in every country is generally pants, don't take it personally.

The Aussie

Nah, just lie stating the obvious, its what i do when i get bored:D

Reloc8

[Jackass] wrote: »

I'd imagine it's dangerous play, penalty defending team. If you clean hurdle it however (i.e. not use your boots) it would be ok.

As a ref I wouldn't give it. Its dangerous play.

edit : you're also likely to be considered to be illegally avoiding tackles by jumping, also a penalty.

I was sort of surprised the try over the ruck was awarded to be honest as it seemed to me that the scrum-half jumped a tackle.

BBDBB

Reloc8 wrote: »

As a ref I wouldn't give it. Its dangerous play.

yeah, no scaffolding, no ladders for working at height, no risk assessment, its a lawsuit waiting to happen

daveharnett

[Jackass] wrote: »

If you clean hurdle it however (i.e. not use your boots) it would be ok.

I'd say it's still dangerous play, even if only to yourself. The Ellis clip is a good example; the 6 diving in may have inadvertently saved him from breaking his neck.

There is also a question of fairness - defenders aren't allowed to tackle players who are off the ground, so ball carriers can't be allowed to jump over/at would-be tacklers.

Iang87

you didnt dream it OP i remember it years ago as a what happened next on a question of sport

BOHtox

Exactly where I saw it too. Glad I didn't dream it. A lot of pride is at stake here as my mates didn't believe me at the time. Anyone have a video?

Podge_irl

[Jackass] wrote: »

I'd imagine it's dangerous play, penalty defending team. If you clean hurdle it however (i.e. not use your boots) it would be ok.

You can't jump over a tackle so I imagine it would still be dangerous play. I can't imagine a single international ref giving that.

Badgermonkey

The Aussie wrote: »

You dont watch RTE much I presume.

I pick and choose tbh.

If you hold up RTE news, sport and current affairs output against the fare offered by ABC (if we're sticking to public service broadcasters), then yep, I'd plump for RTE.

With the obvious exception of the BBC & Channel 4 stable of channels, RTE holds up surprisingly well when benchmarked against public broadcasters in the English-speaking world (home-produced comedy and drama excepted).

Way OT, so will leave it at that.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/

wavehopper1

I remember seeing this on a televised match (not question of sport!). But it was years ago (the eighties?). I distinctly remember the player who ran over the scrum stumbling/sagging with his stride that landed on the opposition player's back, so that he had lost all momentum when he hit/stumbled to the ground on the other side. Which meant that there wasn't much point in the end.

The rest of my memory is a bit hazy. I think it was the all-blacks and the runner was the blind-side wing?

The Aussie

Badgermonkey wrote: »

I pick and choose tbh.

If you hold up RTE news, sport and current affairs output against the fare offered by ABC (if we're sticking to public service broadcasters), then yep, I'd plump for RTE.

You are comparing Apples to Mangoes, one you pay 160 euro for the other is Free, if your to "hold up" stations why did you not choose one of the stations that shows Rugby as in your remark in your first post?

Badgermonkey wrote: »

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/

Irrelevant.

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Way OT, so will leave it at that.

Your only statement so far that has made sense, seems its a Rugby Forum.

Back on topic. Would have to be classed as dangerous play.
On a side note it would not be fun if packing down and finding some one using your back as a footpath, sort of thing that would have Boots being cleaned on his back at the next Ruck:D

Reloc8

I cringe thinking of a player jumping onto the back of a front-rower who is engaged in a scrum (even a non-contested)...he's likely to tread right down on the upper-back/neck area...

In fact, I'd red card it.

Badgermonkey

The Aussie wrote: »

Your only statement so far that has made sense, seems its a Rugby Forum.

You're taking what is essentially mild and subjective criticism of Australian television incredibly personally for whatever reason.

Bit baffled by that tbh.

braidman

This actually happened in 1989 Lions tour of Australia- a midweek game Lions v New South Wales Country XV - later featured on BBC Question of Sport "what Happened next?"
NSW had an attacking scrum in front of the Lions posts 15 metres out,the out half was lined up behind the scrum for what looked like a drop goal attempt.He duly recieved the ball dummied to drop goal and then ran forward jumped on top of the still formed scrum ran over the top of it and scored under the posts!
The try was disallowed but should have been awarded for sheer ingenuity!
Not sure where you could find actual footage of it.

The Aussie

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Bit baffled tbh.

Yes i agree you must be.

In fact OZ TV is tabloid driven drivel, but if you re read my posts i was pointing out that RTE is no better, in fact it is you spruiking the virtues of RTE given every opportunity and taking any comment about the precious state broadcaster rather personally, this must be what having a conversation with Gay Burne is like, whats next are you going to start pushing the FF political agenda.

Have you even bothered commenting on the contents of the Videos linked??? or just the quality in some ill conceived glib reply, (might be important seems its a Rugby Forum).

But i love quoting myself because it reaffirms existing suspicions, soooo....

The Aussie wrote: »

its a Rugby Forum.

The Aussie

[Jackass] wrote: »

probably not the one you're thinking of, but have seen it many times in many videos...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUiI1bb_ks

Im fairly sure that is a Rugby League Game, the Hardy brand padding on the goal post is a give away, from memory the last sponsored League back in the mid/early 80's, also cant spot any flankers:D

Badgermonkey

The Aussie wrote: »

In fact OZ TV is tabloid driven drivel

Consensus, finally.

The Aussie wrote: »

it is you spruiking the virtues of RTE

Perhaps so. If I'd any clue as to what spruiking meant, I'd be more definitive.

The Aussie wrote: »

whats next are you going to start pushing the FF political agenda.

Simply no arguing with cogency of such merit.

The Aussie

Ok, so let me get this right, you received with this.

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Bit baffled tbh.

Yes i agree you must be.

In fact OZ TV is tabloid driven drivel, but if you re read my posts i was pointing out that RTE is no better, in fact it is you spruiking the virtues of RTE given every opportunity and taking any comment about the precious state broadcaster rather personally, this must be what having a conversation with Gay Burne is like, whats next are you going to start pushing the FF political agenda.

Have you even bothered commenting on the contents of the Videos linked??? or just the quality in some ill conceived glib reply, (might be important seems its a Rugby Forum).

But i love quoting myself because it reaffirms existing suspicions, soooo....

The Aussie wrote: »

its a Rugby Forum.

And then returned Volley with this Pearl of Wisdom.

Badgermonkey wrote: »

Consensus, finally.



Perhaps so. If I'd any clue as to what spruiking meant, I'd be more definitive.



Simply no arguing with cogency of such merit.

Fair dinkum, this is like clubbing baby seals here. Your new at this whole trolling thing are you not???

Are you even going to bother having an opinion on the thread or is it beyond you at this stage???

RuggieBear

rugby forum. no more about state tv. take it to pm