Why do people drive so slow in the overtaking lane?

dillo2k10

Its very annoying when you driving along and you come to a slow car, you want to overtake, but oh no there is a Micra driving at the same speed in the overtaking lane.

Why do people do this? Has anyone ever actually being given a fine or points for this?

For Forks Sake

There's a line in here that I think you'll be able to relate to in relation the the situation you describe..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2NKZtl07c

-Corkie-

IBTL

because they are the police of our roads and they won't be bullied, damn it!

Leeg17

What's an "overtaking lane" you speak of?

Bruthal

dillo2k10 wrote: »

Its very annoying when you driving along and you come to a slow car, you want to overtake, but oh no there is a Micra driving at the same speed in the overtaking lane.

Why do people do this? Has anyone ever actually being given a fine or points for this?

Because many drivers here are incompetent fools, with no awareness of whats going on around them, no judgement, no attributes suited to driving properly at all.

I find one of the most annoying is drivers merging onto motorways, but going down the ramp at 80kph. Just how complicated is it to work out why merging is then difficult at times.

Bruthal

Leeg17 wrote: »

What's an "overtaking lane" you speak of?

What do you call it then? Or do you really not know what the OP was talking about?

robbie7730

robbie7730 wrote: »

Because many drivers here are incompetent fools, with no awareness of whats going on around them, no judgement, no attributes suited to driving properly at all.

I find one of the most annoying is drivers merging onto motorways, but going down the ramp at 80kph. Just how complicated is it to work out why merging is then difficult at times.

80? you're lucky if they do 80. I have been stuck behind people doing 50-60 on the bloody merging ramp. Admiring the scenery or something. No idea how they expect to merge with traffic doing 120

dillo2k10

robbie7730 wrote: »

Because many drivers here are incompetent fools, with no awareness of whats going on around them, no judgement, no attributes suited to driving properly at all.

I find one of the most annoying is drivers merging onto motorways, but going down the ramp at 80kph. Just how complicated is it to work out why merging is then difficult at times.

Iv had someone stop at the end once waiting on cars to let them in. Luckily people moved to the overtaking lane.

Bruthal

bluewolf wrote: »

80? you're lucky if they do 80. I have been stuck behind people doing 50-60 on the bloody merging ramp. Admiring the scenery or something. No idea how they expect to merge with traffic doing 120

Yea i think your right, 80 is on a good day.

L-M

I spend a lot of time on the Motorway/Dual carriage way, and nothing annoys me more.

I just undertake and give them the middle finger. It honestly frustrates me beyond belief.

iphone4g

Because they are as thick as fu*k

Corkblowin

Happened last thursday on the M8 - came up behind a car doing 70-80 kph in right hand lane, we were the only cars for miles. Rather than undertake I moved into the right hand lane early & flashed her - she moved in to the left & I passed getting back up to speed - when lo and behold I look back as I'm moving back into the left hand lane & she's pulled back out to the right hand one!!! WTF!!!

CiniO

Limerick man wrote: »

I spend a lot of time on the Motorway/Dual carriage way, and nothing annoys me more.

I just undertake and give them the middle finger. It honestly frustrates me beyond belief.

Undertaking is an offence.

I always flash them until they move to the left.
Then when I overtake, I always get a middle finger

iphone4g

As said thick as fu*k

ahyeahok

CiniO wrote: »

Undertaking is an offence.

I always flash them until they move to the left.
Then when I overtake, I always get a middle finger

Would the exception where you can undertake when in lanes of traffic, when one lane is going slower than the other apply to this?

MugMugs

ahyeahok wrote: »

CiniO wrote: »

Undertaking is an offence.

I always flash them until they move to the left.
Then when I overtake, I always get a middle finger

Would the exception where you can undertake when in lanes of traffic, when one lane is going slower than the other apply to this?

Not on a motorway its not. By rights anybody going the speed limit in the left passing slow flutes in the right could be done. Undertaking is illegal unless the other vehicle is turning right. Find a right hand turn on a motorway.

Alanstrainor

MugMugs wrote: »

Not on a motorway its not. By rights anybody going the speed limit in the left passing slow flutes in the right could be done. Undertaking is illegal unless the other vehicle is turning right. Find a right hand turn on a motorway.

ahyeahok wrote: »

Would the exception where you can undertake when in lanes of traffic, when one lane is going slower than the other apply to this?

You may also undertake, if traffic in both lanes is moving slowly, and traffic in the right had lane is moving slower than the left. The key word in this is "slowly".

Bababa

Another annoying thing being the non use of indicators changing lanes and turning off. Brain dead idiots.
I tend to flash once behind the Cabbage fools in the overtaking lane who are wired to the moon at slow speeds(mesmerized by the white line?) and if they don't move I leave full headlights on till they do. Is a pity I don't have a loud hailer to shout obscenities at them and a dogsh1t flinging machine to cover their car in sh1t.
Muppets

MugMugs

105 is slower than 120 so one would assume passing a motorist driving at 105 on the left would be okay.

Naturally weaving in and out can be dangerous etc but "Garda, I passed in my lane at the right speed" shouldn't see much of an issue.

ahyeahok

MugMugs wrote: »

Not on a motorway its not. By rights anybody going the speed limit in the left passing slow flutes in the right could be done. Undertaking is illegal unless the other vehicle is turning right. Find a right hand turn on a motorway.

I was behind a long line of cars a few weeks ago and an old woman was driving at around 30 mph and we came to a overtaking lane stretch, which of course she stayed on the wrong lane for the entire length of it. Everyone undertook her as she was really taking the piz.

MugMugs

Bababa wrote: »

Another annoying thing being the non use of indicators changing lanes and turning off. Brain dead idiots.
I tend to flash once behind the Cabbage fools in the overtaking lane who are wired to the moon at slow speeds(mesmerized by the white line?) and if they don't move I leave full headlights on till they do. Is a pity I don't have a loud hailer to shout obscenities at them and a dogsh1t flinging machine to cover their car in sh1t.
Muppets

So you're an aggressive dangerous driver then ?

scotchy

CiniO wrote: »

Undertaking is an offence.

I always flash them until they move to the left.
Then when I overtake, I always get a middle finger

I’m not so sure about this.

My drive home from work sometimes involves the M50 from the Mad cow to Sandyford exit (three lanes all the way for those not familiar with it).

Now, my car is not fast and I try to stay in the left lane all the way. So while doing a steady 110/120 KPH in the so called “slow lane”, surely I’m not required to drop to a slower speed because some Muppet is cruising along in the outside lane at 80 KPH.




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richiebceltic

Might have something to do with the fact that many drivers on our roads have never sat, or passed, a driving test.

Bullseye1

Because they are miserable and want everyone to be as miserable as themselves. The roads are full of these people.

MugMugs

ahyeahok wrote: »

MugMugs wrote: »

Not on a motorway its not. By rights anybody going the speed limit in the left passing slow flutes in the right could be done. Undertaking is illegal unless the other vehicle is turning right. Find a right hand turn on a motorway.

I was behind a long line of cars a few weeks ago and an old woman was driving at around 30 mph and we came to a overtaking lane stretch, which of course she stayed on the wrong lane for the entire length of it. Everyone undertook her as she was really taking the piz.

listen dude. Drive the M1 at 7am for that crap. Every tool from the north east falls from bed into their cars and onto the motorway and straight into the right hand lane until Dublin.

I've actually got from the Drogheda toll to Lusk in the left lane undertaking the entire way.

Bababa

MugMugs wrote: »

Bababa wrote: »

Another annoying thing being the non use of indicators changing lanes and turning off. Brain dead idiots.
I tend to flash once behind the Cabbage fools in the overtaking lane who are wired to the moon at slow speeds(mesmerized by the white line?) and if they don't move I leave full headlights on till they do. Is a pity I don't have a loud hailer to shout obscenities at them and a dogsh1t flinging machine to cover their car in sh1t.
Muppets

So you're an aggressive dangerous driver then ?

No. Just on principle. Hate monkeys hanging out in the overtaking lane just because they can. Not because they need to. Why be in the overtaking lane if ur not overtaking?

ahyeahok

MugMugs wrote: »

listen dude. Drive the M1 at 7am for that crap. Every tool from the north east falls from bed into their cars and onto the motorway and straight into the right hand lane until Dublin.

I've actually got from the Drogheda toll to Lusk in the left lane undertaking the entire way.

Im more talking about non-motorways where you haven't got many chances to overtake and stuck behind a biddy for ages.

CiniO

scotchy wrote: »

I’m not so sure about this.

My drive home from work sometimes involves the M50 from the Mad cow to Sandyford exit (three lanes all the way for those not familiar with it).

Now, my car is not fast and I try to stay in the left lane all the way. So while doing a steady 110/120 KPH in the so called “slow lane”, surely I’m not required to drop to a slower speed because some Muppet is cruising along in the outside lane at 80 KPH.




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Of course you are required to slow down, or move right to overtake.
Undertaking is illegal, unless traffic is moving slowly, and traffic on left lane is moving faster than on right.

PS. I though all M50 had limit to 100km/h.

scotchy

CiniO wrote: »

PS. I though all M50 had limit to 100km/h.

AFAIK only in places, but open to correction.

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MugMugs

Bababa wrote: »

No. Just on principle. Hate monkeys hanging out in the overtaking lane just because they can. Not because they need to. Why be in the overtaking lane if ur not overtaking?

I don't know. I don't do it.

It doesn't justify dazzling somebody and potentially causing them an accident and injury though. Nothing can justify that. Relax yourself. They may upset you but it doesn't warrant headlights on full.

donalg1

Was on a roundabout yesterday and a car stopped on it to wait for traffic to pass so they could change lanes and make the exit. Stopped of all things like the roundabout doesn't go round again!!!! Shocking drivers out there driving test every 7-10 years.

slimjimmc

MugMugs wrote: »

105 is slower than 120 so one would assume passing a motorist driving at 105 on the left would be okay.

Naturally weaving in and out can be dangerous etc but "Garda, I passed in my lane at the right speed" shouldn't see much of an issue.

The most important words are "slowly" or "slow moving queues", just going at a slower high speed than the other lane is neither of these. A Garda could easily take issue as it's deemed a traffic offence.

scotchy wrote: »

I’m not so sure about this.

My drive home from work sometimes involves the M50 from the Mad cow to Sandyford exit (three lanes all the way for those not familiar with it).

Now, my car is not fast and I try to stay in the left lane all the way. So while doing a steady 110/120 KPH in the so called “slow lane”, surely I’m not required to drop to a slower speed because some Muppet is cruising along in the outside lane at 80 KPH.

Technically, I think you are but it's hard to see you getting rapped for it when there's an entire lane separating you, assuming you're not passing the traffic in lane 2 as well.

Bababa

MugMugs wrote: »

Bababa wrote: »

No. Just on principle. Hate monkeys hanging out in the overtaking lane just because they can. Not because they need to. Why be in the overtaking lane if ur not overtaking?

I don't know. I don't do it.

It doesn't justify dazzling somebody and potentially causing them an accident and injury though. Nothing can justify that. Relax yourself. They may upset you but it doesn't warrant headlights on full.

Well if it wakes them from their stupor then maybe it might save their lives. They can always turn their mirror away if their eyes are so sensitive... Wear shades... Or just get into the correct lane. If a car is behind me I get out of the way and let them on

Chuck_Norris

scotchy wrote: »

CiniO wrote: »

PS. I though all M50 had limit to 100km/h.

AFAIK only in places, but open to correction.

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The bulk of the M50 is 100kph. It goes up to 120 just after the Sandford exit (going south) and the reverse applies. It also drops to 80kph as you get to the M1 (going north).

Leeg17

robbie7730 wrote: »

What do you call it then? Or do you really not know what the OP was talking about?

Wait, my bad, thought he called it the "fast lane". Stupid me

Mind's all over the place today.

barura

Just went for a little drive to bray and back. Sweet ****, all those spanners with fog lights, overly bright HID's, tools not knowing which lane to be in coming off a roundabout, some taxi drivers, some spoon weaving in and out of traffic in a ford focus and best of all, multiple one headlight cars that look like motorbikes in the dark!

Having said that, my car is sickly underpowered to be doing any 'aggressive' manoeuvres, but why do people think that when they get a 1.4 litre Golf or a 316 they are gods gift to driving like a gob****e?

/rant over

Having said that, a mandatory resit of the test would make sense for people with a licence for more than 5 years. If the government did the first one free, noone could complain that it's unfair as so long as they can drive properly. People who don't pass it are demoted to a learners permit and have to sit their full licence test again.

And if you think that once you have your full licence it's good forever and you want to get on a high horse about "Why should I do that, I drive everyday and never have an accident", if you can drive, there is nothing to worry about resitting a test that's free to prove that.

Seth Brundle

And from the M50/M1 interchange all the way through the tunnel, the M50 is 80km/h IIRC.

scotchy

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

The bulk of the M50 is 100kph. It goes up to 120 just after the Sandford exit (going south) and the reverse applies. It also drops to 80kph as you get to the M1 (going north).

Uh ho. Well let’s not drag this thread off topic.:o



Shuffles awkwardly away.;)


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Chuck_Norris

scotchy wrote: »

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Uh ho. Well let’s not drag this thread off topic.:o



Shuffles awkwardly away.;)


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Coolio. Totally agree regarding slow drivers in overtaking lane though. I've driven the guts of 275,000 kilometres in the last 5 years, and learned very early on that patience is a virtue.

Still and all, the blood does get angried up by some people who seem to see it as their job to police the driving of others by driving in the overtaking lane.

Or to test our powers of telepathy by failing to indicate, leaving it to the last second to turn off at a junction.

sh1tstirrer

richiebceltic wrote: »

Might have something to do with the fact that many drivers on our roads have never sat, or passed, a driving test.

Back in the 70's there was a backlog and they cleared it by giving out licences without the driving test. The amnesty lasted one month I believe. One month back in the 70's and it makes you say many drivers :rolleyes:

dharn

Limerick man wrote: »

I spend a lot of time on the Motorway/Dual carriage way, and nothing annoys me more.

I just undertake and give them the middle finger. It honestly frustrates me beyond belief.

what happens the day the dozy driver drifts back into the left lane while you are undertaking them not expecting you to be there

CiniO

dharn wrote: »

what happens the day the dozy driver drifts back into the left lane while you are undertaking them not expecting you to be there

I'd say 50/50

Bababa

dharn wrote: »

Limerick man wrote: »

I spend a lot of time on the Motorway/Dual carriage way, and nothing annoys me more.

I just undertake and give them the middle finger. It honestly frustrates me beyond belief.

what happens the day the dozy driver drifts back into the left lane while you are undertaking them not expecting you to be there

Beep the Fu€k out of them.... and foot to the floor(or brakes) depending on what's necessary.

stoneill

Just pass them on the inside lane.
Do not concern yourself about them, do not try to rationalise their actions, do not expend any more energy than is necessary in passing them.
Once past, do not perform a mental post mortem, do not think any more about them, do not allow any detail of their stupidity enter your mind.
Just pass them. You will never see them again in your entire life.

ZENER

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

scotchy wrote: »

Or to test our powers of telepathy by failing to indicate, leaving it to the last second to turn off at a junction.

Or worse still, driving slow in the Right lane then not indicating across 3 lanes to get to an exit all in the space of a couple of hundred meters !! Common occurrence on the M1 Southbound every morning at the airport and M50 exit.

Driving back from Sligo on Sunday about 40KM from Dublin on the M4 I came up behind a 10-D Jaguar doing 90 - 100KM/h with full headlights on. Stayed behind him for about a KM hoping he would notice my right indicator and move left. He didn't !! Had to overtake on the left to get by him, completely oblivious he was ! A$$hole !! He had his full beams on for as long as he was in my view as well !!

Ken

ZENER

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

Back in the 70's there was a backlog and they cleared it by giving out licences without the driving test. The amnesty lasted one month I believe. One month back in the 70's and it makes you say many drivers :rolleyes:

But how many of those untested drivers went on to teach their offspring to drive ? It's only in recent years that proper driver training has become mandatory prior to doing a test. Before that many learned how to do the test - not necessarily how to drive properly ?! All because of that amnesty !

Ken

Oral Surgeon

robbie7730 wrote: »

I find one of the most annoying is drivers merging onto motorways, but going down the ramp at 80kph. Just how complicated is it to work out why merging is then difficult at times.

I recently had to stop behind a truck who was merging onto the M50 so slowly that he had to stop in the merge on ramp. I was coming behind him and wasn't going to be stopped behind him at 8 am in full rush hour, very dangerous... a quick undertake to the hard shoulder and accelerate to merge and safe again. He was asking for a pile-up and I wasn't interested....

savagecabbages

stoneill wrote: »

Just pass them on the inside lane.
Do not concern yourself about them, do not try to rationalise their actions, do not expend any more energy than is necessary in passing them.
Once past, do not perform a mental post mortem, do not think any more about them, do not allow any detail of their stupidity enter your mind.
Just pass them. You will never see them again in your entire life.

Its not the other driver i'd be worried about, its the Traffic Corps who will (quite rightly) do you for undertaking.

savagecabbages

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

Back in the 70's there was a backlog and they cleared it by giving out licences without the driving test. The amnesty lasted one month I believe. One month back in the 70's and it makes you say many drivers :rolleyes:

I'd say it happened more than just one month, I know of several drivers who haven't done their test. Maybe its just a co-incidence, but they hardly all got the free licence during the same month in the 1970's.
Not that the test is much use anyway, I never drove on a dual, let alone triple carriageway during any of my lessons or the test itself...

L-M

CiniO wrote: »

Undertaking is an offence.

I always flash them until they move to the left.
Then when I overtake, I always get a middle finger

Staying in the outside lane is against what the RSA say to do as well.

dharn wrote: »

what happens the day the dozy driver drifts back into the left lane while you are undertaking them not expecting you to be there

Then that "dozy" driver shouldn't be on the road. Most motorways have a good stretch and if they can't see me approaching from a distance, they shouldn't be on the road.