Predict the iphone 4S 64GB Price!

RobitTV

Here's this evenings quest -

Predict the price of the iphone 4s 64GB

any ideas?

bobmalooka

three fiddy

omb0wyn5ehpij9

€779 sim free

Dublinstiofán

€699. People won't be prepared to pay over €700 in my opinion

RobitTV

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

€699. People won't be prepared to pay over €700 in my opinion

I will be annoyed if it's 700+

omb0wyn5ehpij9

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

€699. People won't be prepared to pay over €700 in my opinion

The 16gb will be €600 or very close to it as per previous iPhones, so there is very little chance there will be only €100 between the 16gb and 64gb versions

Sad Professor

Dublinstiofán wrote: »

€699. People won't be prepared to pay over €700 in my opinion

€699 will be the price of the 32GB. The 64GB is likely to be in the region of €799.

DubDJ

I'd say anywhere from €700 - €1,000,000,000,000

massy086

http://store.apple.com/fr/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTAyNTQzMjI i,d say that is 16gb

seamus

iPhone 4 32GB was €729 at launch. So €799 seems like the kind of figure for this IMO. Considering that they're pitching the 8GB iPhone 4 at €500, the minimum premium on top is €100 for the 4S

tigershould

sim free iphone4s prices (IMO) =

16gb - 599€
32gb - 699€
64gb - 849€


this is based on iphone4 8gb at €499

Crackity Jones

£699 in the UK according to T3. More expensive than iPad 2 3G 64GB!

Edit. £499 and £599 for the other two 4S models.

Jev/N

tigershould wrote: »

sim free iphone4s prices (IMO) =

16gb - 599€
32gb - 699€
64gb - 849€


this is based on iphone4 8gb at €499

I couldn't believe the price they're currently setting for the 8GB 4; the 32GB was around €649/669 only a few days ago. With the 4S now, that should also drop so the 8GB 4 seems OTT

Sad Professor

Jev/N wrote: »

I couldn't believe the price they're currently setting for the 8GB 4; the 32GB was around €649/669 only a few days ago. With the 4S now, that should also drop so the 8GB 4 seems OTT

Not, it wasn't. The 32GB iPhone 4 was €699 sim-free. You are probably thinking of the PAYG version.

eeloe

seamus wrote: »

iPhone 4 32GB was €729 at launch. So €799 seems like the kind of figure for this IMO. Considering that they're pitching the 8GB iPhone 4 at €500, the minimum premium on top is €100 for the 4S

No it wasn't, it was €699...

Mellor

These are the prices for unlocked iPhones here in Australia

3GS 8GB- $449, (IE is e349)
4 8GB- $699, (IE is e499)
4S 16GB $799
4S 32GB $899
4S 64GB $999

So if I had to guess, I'd say Irish prices will be e559, e629 and e699

Jev/N

Unless my eyes were deceiving me that was definitely the price on apple.com/ie store within the past few days, not at launch - I know that was the price then

edit: I'm 99% sure it stated €669

Jev/N

Mellor wrote: »

These are the prices for unlocked iPhones here in Australia

3GS 8GB- $449,
4 8GB- $699
4S 16GB $799
4S 32GB $899
4S 64GB $799

*From the apple site
just to give an idea of the difference in prices between unlocked phones, the difference should be about 50-80 euros in ireland

How is the 64GB S cheaper than the 32GB S?

Mellor

Jev/N wrote: »

How is the 64GB S cheaper than the 32GB S?

How did you not spot that it was obviously a typo?

guil

i'd say it will definitely 799 if last years keynote is anything to go buy, the 16gb and 32gb were 199 and 299 in the US on contracts and it's the same this year

seamus

eeloe wrote: »

No it wasn't, it was €699...

Maybe I was thinking of another country. If that's the case, then my vote goes for €749, minimum.

Dont be at yourself

iPhone 3GS 8GB - €349 (confirmed on Irish store)
iPhone 4 8GB - €499 (confirmed on Irish store)
iPhone 4S 16GB €629 (confirmed on German store)
iPhone 4S 32GB €729
iPhone 4S 64gb €799

Sad Professor

As I said in the other thread, German and French prices do not reflect Irish prices. Their prices are more expensive than ours.

Dont be at yourself

Sad Professor wrote: »

As I said in the other thread, German and French prices do not reflect Irish prices. Their prices are more expensive than ours.

True; 3GS and 4 8gb prices are €20 higher. I guess that's to absorb some local recycling or anti-piracy tax on electronic goods? If the trend continues, we're looking at €609 for the 16gb 4S...

Jev/N

Mellor wrote: »

Jev/N wrote: »

How is the 64GB S cheaper than the 32GB S?

How did you not spot that it was obviously a typo?

I never said I didn't, suppose I could have phrased it better!

tigershould

Yeah, I can't believe the price of a simfree iphone4.
€499 - ridiculous!

Gumbo

tigershould wrote: »

Yeah, I can't believe the price of a simfree iphone4.
€499 - ridiculous!

have you priced sim free version of other phones recently?

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/10250402/art/htc/sensation.html

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/10024873/art/samsung/i9100-galaxy-s-ii-android.html

Gekko

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

iPhone 3GS 8GB - €349 (confirmed on Irish store)
iPhone 4 8GB - €499 (confirmed on Irish store)
iPhone 4S 16GB €629 (confirmed on German store)
iPhone 4S 32GB €729
iPhone 4S 64gb €799

German price and Irish price for the 16gb may differ due to differences in the VAT rate.

I would've thought the 16gb would be €599, 32gb €699 and 64gb €799 in Ireland.

challengemaster

Who in their right mind pays €800 for a phone. One that'll be outdated in a year. Forget the *99 stuff as it's only a marketing technique. :rolleyes:

Tazz T

Those are mental prices.

Sure the iPhone 5 will be out in a couple of months.

Zonda999

challengemaster wrote: »

Who in their right mind pays €800 for a phone. One that'll be outdated in a year. Forget the *99 stuff as it's only a marketing technique. :rolleyes:

There are people who will pay that much, 800€ up front does sound like an appalling amount in isolation alright. But what you need to think about though, is the overall cost of using the phone, as in the initial cost plus network costs. The pint being, on 30 day contracts, you can get much better deals, and change plans at will, as opposed to being tied in to 2 year contracts. Often the price works out very similar. and, as far as i know, in Three's most recent free iphone contract offer, it was probable that it would work out cheaper to go with the contract. For some people, the thought of a 64gb iphone will be what they've been waiting for, for years. In fairness, it is the only phone to offer that level of storage without the use of micro sd cards

Tazz T wrote: »

Those are mental prices.

Sure the iPhone 5 will be out in a couple of months.

Well, it'll be June 2012 at the very earliest, or may well be September/October next year again, who knows..

challengemaster

Zonda999 wrote: »

There are people who will pay that much, 800€ up front does sound like an appalling amount in isolation alright. But what you need to think about though, is the overall cost of using the phone, as in the initial cost plus network costs. The pint being, on 30 day contracts, you can get much better deals, and change plans at will, as opposed to being tied in to 2 year contracts. Often the price works out very similar. and, as far as i know, in Three's most recent free iphone contract offer, it was probable that it would work out cheaper to go with the contract. For some people, the thought of a 64gb iphone will be what they've been waiting for, for years. In fairness, it is the only phone to offer that level of storage without the use of micro sd cards

But it's still a stupid price.

Gumbo

challengemaster wrote: »

Who in their right mind pays €800 for a phone. One that'll be outdated in a year. Forget the *99 stuff as it's only a marketing technique. :rolleyes:

Tazz T wrote: »

Those are mental prices.

Sure the iPhone 5 will be out in a couple of months.

just like everything else in this world, whay works for you, might not work for others.

the price for the iPhone from apple may seem high at the offset but if you factor in contract prices etc it may work out exactly the same.

sim free 32gb = 699
24 months of PAYG top up at 20e per month = 480

700 + 480 = 1380

buy for 299 from network = 299
24 months of 50e = 1200

300 + 1200 = 1500

so not alot in it tbh, plus the PAYG option means you can sell it tomorrow if your having financial problems, moving away etc etc

kingshankly

kceire wrote: »

challengemaster wrote: »

Who in their right mind pays €800 for a phone. One that'll be outdated in a year. Forget the *99 stuff as it's only a marketing technique. :rolleyes:

Tazz T wrote: »

Those are mental prices.

Sure the iPhone 5 will be out in a couple of months.

just like everything else in this world, whay works for you, might not work for others.

the price for the iPhone from apple may seem high at the offset but if you factor in contract prices etc it may work out exactly the same.

sim free 32gb = 699
24 months of PAYG top up at 20e per month = 480

700 + 480 = 1380

buy for 299 from network = 299
24 months of 50e = 1200

300 + 1200 = 1500

so not alot in it tbh, plus the PAYG option means you can sell it tomorrow if your having financial problems, moving away etc etc

well vodafone must love me as I buy the phone myself yet stay in their 60 a month contract

Gumbo

kingshankly wrote: »

well vodafone must love me as I buy the phone myself yet stay in their 60 a month contract

this is it, what works for you might not work for me. Theres no right way or wrong way, just different ways.

Simon201

Less of a prediction me thinks but the 64gb is £699 on the UK site. I hope I'm wrong but that puts it at a wild €800 here!

(edit) Confirmed - an even wilder €849 on the French store!

120_Minutes

$849 in the US, confirmed by gizmodo.

RobitTV

Quite pissed at the euro prices

16 GB
€ 629.00
--
32 GB
€ 739.00
--
64 GB
€ 849.00

Why are the products in this world so expensive and have unreasonable prices.

Inquitus

kceire wrote: »

have you priced sim free version of other phones recently?

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/10250402/art/htc/sensation.html

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/10024873/art/samsung/i9100-galaxy-s-ii-android.html

Aye but they are cutting edge phones, not something that is 18mths old.

tigershould

€849!!!!!

That's fu*kin' ridiculous isn't it?
Or am I missing something?

If you say €45 x 24 mths contract + upgrade price (probably €600/700 on a gold O2 maybe?) that's a whopping €1600ish in two years.

Just for interest, does anyone know how much it actually costs to manufacture one?

God bless you Steve, you sure knew how to make the money.

Sad Professor

We don't know the Irish prices yet. I doubt it will be 850. Not all euro prices are the same.

Oafley Jones

tigershould wrote: »

€849!!!!!

That's fu*kin' ridiculous isn't it?
Or am I missing something?

If you say €45 x 24 mths contract + upgrade price (probably €600/700 on a gold O2 maybe?) that's a whopping €1600ish in two years.

Just for interest, does anyone know how much it actually costs to manufacture one?

God bless you Steve, you sure knew how to make the money.

I saw a Bill of Materials estimate for the 32GB 4S of 203 dollars some where today. They're an incredibly profitable product for Apple.

120_Minutes

Not defending the Irish networks, but your average iPhone costs them roughly 400 from apple, so if a customer gets it free then then the network begins to earn revenue back at about month 14.

I remember reading what an iPhone cost to make, can't remember what model but it was somewhere between 150 - 250 dollars I think.

Hogzy

€850, iPhones are nice, but they are no where near worth that money even if you end up paying it back through a 2yr contract.

Without getting into the whole Apple v Android debate can you Apple Fanboys really justifying paying THAT MUCH for a phone. I mean a 16gb Galaxy S II from Amazon is €450 delivered Sim free, add €50 for a 32gb SD card and its €500 for a 48gb phone that has the exact same features as an iPhone 4s (Some features are actually better), and android has had its own google voice for nearly a year and a half.

I have an android, i also have a head. Everytime i do the maths i just cannot justify why someone would pay that much more for a phone that is not that much better than its rivals (I personally prefer android but each to their own).

Sad Professor

It should be kept in mind though that hardware manufacturing costs are not the whole picture. Those figures don't take into account other costs like marketing, R&D, support, shipping and software development. But the iPhone is undoubtedly very profitable. All their products are very profitable. If they can't make a profit from it they don't make it.

Hogzy

Sad Professor wrote: »

If they can't make a profit from it they don't make it.

I think you will find that most companies will do this

Sad Professor

Not necessarily. A lot of companies sacrifice short term profitability in their attempts to dominate a market. I mean, have Sony started making a profit on the ps3 yet? The last I heard they were still selling it at a loss. Apple don't do this.

Hogzy

Sad Professor wrote: »

Not necessarily. A lot of companies sacrifice short term profitability in their attempts to dominate a market. I mean, have Sony started making a profit on the ps3 yet? The last I heard they were still selling it at a loss. Apple don't do this.

The PS3 turned a profit for Sony in Q2 2010. Yes late i know but once the break even point has been reached then your profit will soar. If a company is selling a product at a loss i can guarantee you it will be making some sort of profit for the company indirectly.

Sad Professor

Yeah but my point is Apple don't do this. When Jobs returned he focused the company on achieving short term profit. This allowed them to spend more money improving those products and staying ahead of their competitors - not in terms of sales but in terms of innovation. But this eventually resulted in greater sales. This was key to Apple's success in the post-return years IMO.

LuckyCharms

Following on from what was said above, i think it isnt something that can be compared like for like since Apple operate in a specific area regarding their phones while

Sony has so many different revenue streams interconnected that one making a loss is often done to allow for others to generate substantial revenue.

Apple do not have that kind of diversified portfolio to leverage. PS3 is more like the apple store than the iphone. Apple uses it's various products to leverage its consolidated music and app library but since itunes can be used by anyone, having an iphone is not a pre requisite to gain access to these revenue streams.

speeding

64gb Iphone 4s ordered this morning shipping to a friends house in the north. Just got my confirmation email :-).