Petrol Price

Petrol?

Hey,

I travel a 70 mile journey each weekend and 3 other girls travel with me.

I drive a 1L Polo and they always begrudge giving me some money for petrol, to such an extent, I feel embarrassed asking them.

Today, I asked them for 5euro each which would total €15, I thought this was a very reasonable price, considering the bus is €15 and the fact that they were been picked up at their door and dropped off at their door.

This started a heated conversation, where I was told that because €15 would cover the whole price of the journey home, that I was "getting home for nothing" and that that wasn't right.

TBH, Its is getting me really down, I don't want to fall out with these people as they are good friends of mine.

Should I be even be charging for petrol in the first place even? If so what should I be charging? I feel a bit lost as I only passed my test last month in Raheny and I guess I don't really know how these things work.

Thanks for the help in advance,

Mary

Delancey

Mary , I think this is really better suited to the Personal Issues forum.

robbie_998

well for starts

it is illegal to charge for that unless your insurance covers for "hire or reward" or something like that so its illegal.


now in saying that i do see where your coming from... they should not expect to be taxied everywhere for free.

make them get the bus and see how it feels then.

soon they will go crawling back to you as it will be easier and cheaper for them.

then you implement they voluntarily give you some kind of contribution !

Petrol?

Delancey wrote: »

Mary , I think this is really better suited to the Personal Issues forum.

I don't think so? they wouldn't know as much about the price of petrol? maybe your right, I dunno tbh.

MugMugs

Petrol? wrote: »

Hey,

I travel a 70 mile journey each weekend and 3 other girls travel with me.

I drive a 1L Polo and they always begrudge giving me some money for petrol, to such an extent, I feel embarrassed asking them.

Today, I asked them for 5euro each which would total €15, I thought this was a very reasonable price, considering the bus is €15 and the fact that they were been picked up at their door and dropped off at their door.

This started a heated conversation, where I was told that because €15 would cover the whole price of the journey home, that I was "getting home for nothing" and that that wasn't right.

TBH, Its is getting me really down, I don't want to fall out with these people as they are good friends of mine.

Should I be even be charging for petrol in the first place even? If so what should I be charging? I feel a bit lost as I only passed my test last month in Raheny and I guess I don't really know how these things work.

Thanks for the help in advance,

Mary

Mary, You should probably try Personal Issues


However, Did they not consider Wear and Tear on your vehicle ? Motor Tax? Insurance ? Tyres ? The fact they were getting a good ride.

Personally, I'd drive by the two of them next time.

If you choose to pick them up then charge them a tenner there and then and tell them to take the bloody bus if they don't like it.

ps - Taking passengers for reward is probably against your Insurance.

Mr Benevolent

Is that 70 miles in total or a 140 mile round trip? 70 miles in my 1L would cost me about €12.

Help2

Petrol? wrote: »

Hey,

I travel a 70 mile journey each weekend and 3 other girls travel with me.

I drive a 1L Polo and they always begrudge giving me some money for petrol, to such an extent, I feel embarrassed asking them.

Today, I asked them for 5euro each which would total €15, I thought this was a very reasonable price, considering the bus is €15 and the fact that they were been picked up at their door and dropped off at their door.

This started a heated conversation, where I was told that because €15 would cover the whole price of the journey home, that I was "getting home for nothing" and that that wasn't right.

TBH, Its is getting me really down, I don't want to fall out with these people as they are good friends of mine.

Should I be even be charging for petrol in the first place even? If so what should I be charging? I feel a bit lost as I only passed my test last month in Raheny and I guess I don't really know how these things work.

Thanks for the help in advance,

Mary

I drive a 1.1litre car and it probably costs a similiar amount to run as your car... i worked it out to be costing me about 13 - 15cents per mile... so 70miles * 15 cents = €10.50...

lets call it €10... 4 of you in the car... thats €2.50 each... if they dont want to pay tell them to get the bus.

If you do the maths yourself you can work out how much your fuel is costing...

Fill your car up... then record the mileage or reset the trip computer... drive the car untill its time to put more petrol in..

FILL IT UP... record the cost...divide the cost by the miles travelled = cost per mile... i think!

JoeySully

Mary - welcome to boards

you are between a hard place and a rock you have have to be firm but nice. I think 5 quid each for the spin in cheap. remember its not just fuel but wear of tyres, break pads and engine.

Its not stingy asking for petrol money these days !

They should be very grateful, €5 for a 70 mile trip and dropped to their door. Your not getting home for free, you are running a car, they obviously aren't. In fairness to them they are probably just a bit slow and lacking in common sense rather than nasty and tight.

Petrol?

robbie_998 wrote: »

well for starts

it is illegal to charge for that unless your insurance covers for "hire or reward" or something like that so its illegal.


now in saying that i do see where your coming from... they should not expect to be taxied everywhere for free.

make them get the bus and see how it feels then.

soon they will go crawling back to you as it will be easier and cheaper for them.

then you implement they voluntarily give you some kind of contribution !

TBH during the "heated converstion" I told them to F*uck off and get the bus. But like I said if that happens, I fall out with them and I really don't want that to happen

vectra

God forbid if you had an accident you would find out fairly lively how much of a friend they really are.
Let them bus it

Help2

Delancey wrote: »

Mary , I think this is really better suited to the Personal Issues forum.

I think this thread is usefull here also... as it concerns the cost of petrol/diesel.. which would be a touchy subject for most posters on this forum these days i would say:D

robbie_998

Petrol? wrote: »

TBH during the "heated converstion" I told them to F*uck off and get the bus. But like I said if that happens, I fall out with them and I really don't want that to happen

so their using you ?

dont sound like very good friends if they wont be friends with you if you dont give them a lift for free to be honest.

but the general consensuses here at my best guess would be they pay something or get lost.

if they dont accept it let them suffer on a bus.

you dont want to be getting used or the likes by people like that.

Alanstrainor

Hi Mary,

I've moved your post to the personal issues forum. As this isn't really a motors query.

Alan

Petrol?

Confab wrote: »

Is that 70 miles in total or a 140 mile round trip? 70 miles in my 1L would cost me about €12.

140 round trip

MugMugs wrote: »

Mary, You should probably try Personal Issues


However, Did they not consider Wear and Tear on your vehicle ? Motor Tax? Insurance ? Tyres ? The fact they were getting a good ride.

Tax and insurance, tyres etc "get me to work aswell so they shouldnt have to pay for it":(

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Hi Mary,

I've moved your post to the personal issues forum. As this isn't really a motors query.

Alan

why not? Its about petrol? Id prefer it if you moved it back tbh, it would get a much better response, which is what I'm after.

Thoie

It's rare that I'm giving people those kind of lifts, and when I am it's more likely that my friends will start throwing 20's at me

However the fairest way to do it is to fill the tank at the start of the journey (with them sitting waiting). Towards the end of the journey, when they're all still with you, fill the tank again. Divide by 4. Round up to the nearest euro if you've had to collect them from various spots before leaving.

That can be your baseline unless petrol prices rise or fall dramatically. If they start saying "petrol came down by 0.00000001 cents", tell them to **** off and get the bus.

Petrol?

Thoie wrote: »

It's rare that I'm giving people those kind of lifts, and when I am it's more likely that my friends will start throwing 20's at me

However the fairest way to do it is to fill the tank at the start of the journey (with them sitting waiting). Towards the end of the journey, when they're all still with you, fill the tank again. Divide by 4. Round up to the nearest euro if you've had to collect them from various spots before leaving.

That can be your baseline unless petrol prices rise or fall dramatically. If they start saying "petrol came down by 0.00000001 cents", tell them to **** off and get the bus.

Should I have to pay my share to? should it be divided by 3 or 4?

Petrol?

Petrol? wrote: »

140 round trip



Tax and insurance, tyres etc "get me to work aswell so they shouldnt have to pay for it":(



why not? Its about petrol? Id prefer it if you moved it back tbh, it would get a much better response, which is what I'm after.

A €5 for 140 miles, two trips.
These are silly, tight, nasty b1tches.
You're dead right telling them to f*ck off, how much did they reckon was fair btw? A tenner between the 3 of them?

As a compromise drop them off outside your own destination and tell them to be there at x time if they want a lift back., that'll soften their cough.

Petrol?

RoverJames wrote: »

A €5 for 140 miles, two trips.
These are silly, tight, nasty b1tches.
You're dead right telling them to f*ck off, how much did they reckon was fair btw? A tenner between the 3 of them?

As a compromise drop them off outside your own destination and tell them to be there at x time if they want a lift back., that'll soften their cough.

sorry, maybe Ive confused you, I wanted a fiver for 70mile. They offered me 3€ for 70 mile.

I know Ive said it a few times, but I dont really want to fall out with these people, I dont really want to disclose why on a public forum either. Im sure you'd understand more why if I said so.

MugMugs

Petrol? wrote: »

Tax and insurance, tyres etc "get me to work aswell so they shouldnt have to pay for it":(

So ? They've still had use of them. The trip has used them and lead to the their eventual demise due to the extra weight.

Petrol? wrote: »

sorry, maybe Ive confused you, I wanted a fiver for 70mile. They offered me 3€ for 70 mile.

I know Ive said it a few times, but I dont really want to fall out with these people,

It costs them 15 quid to get the bus each. A tenner each to you in the comfort of a car is a fine deal. So what if you make money on it. It's your car.

Tell them to take a hike if they want to argue over a few bob.

Petrol?

MugMugs wrote: »

So ? They've still had use of them. The trip has used them and lead to the their eventual demise due to the extra weight.



It costs them 15 quid to get the bus each. A tenner each to you in the comfort of a car is a fine deal. So what if you make money on it. It's your car.

Tell them to take a hike if they want to argue over a few bob.

I wish I could show them this thread just to reiterate, what Im trying to tell them.

Help2

work out how much its costing you per mile... if its costing your €12 for 70 miles then its €3 each. If its costing you €16 for 70miles then its €4 each.

Id say for a 1.0polo its probably costing you about €11-€13 for 70miles depending on the year of the car and how fast your going!! work it out and charge accordingly.

If its a regular thing its not fair that your paying €12 in petrol for the journey and they dont contribute.

If it was a one-off then its another story..

I have the same problem when driving to the cinema or whatever.. i spend about €6 driving to the cinema cause its a fair bit away.. so if theres 3 of us thats €2 each...

Why should the driver pay to get there and the passengers pay nothing?

They prob dont understand cause they dont have to run a car themselves...price of fuel has gone up big time in the last few years so lay down the law!:)

Night_Prowler

Im sorry to be harsh here but your "friends" are taking you for a ride in every sense!
You have asked them to donate to the pertol fund and they refuse.(im still shocked at this) If you continue to let them travel for free then you are now the mug.

Be strong and stand up for yourself - you dont have to get all nasty on their asses, just a polite notification that if they are not willing to contribute to the costs of their generous lift then they should make alternative travel arrangements.

Petrol?

Night_Prowler wrote: »

Im sorry to be harsh here but your "friends" are taking you for a ride in every sense!
You have asked them to donate to the pertol fund and they refuse.(im still shocked at this) If you continue to let them travel for free then you are now the mug.

they never refsued, sorry if Ive confused you.

they offered 3euro while I asked for 5euro. I was querying whether or not I should be charging and if so, how much?

Night_Prowler wrote: »

Be strong and stand up for yourself - you dont have to get all nasty on their asses, just a polite notification that if they are not willing to contribute to the costs of their generous lift then they should make alternative travel arrangements.

Alas, If it were only that simple

thanks for the helpful reply.

Aishae

The problem doesnt seem to be 'should they contribute to petrol?' the answer is YES.

The problem is how to handle them.

Maybe explain you can't afford the trip every weekend anymore to see if theyd then be more forthcoming with a little contribution to the petrol.
Or tell them you have no need to make the trip now, so by that note you will not be free/ able to afford the petrol when you don't even need to go - or however you want to put it.

It is just not on to leech off people like this. You can be more forceful on the subject without getting nasty. It sounds like they're treating you like a free taxi.

Petrol?

Petrol? wrote: »

they never refsued, sorry if Ive confused you.

they offered 3euro while I asked for 5euro. I was querying whether or not I should be charging and if so, how much?

thanks for the helpful reply anyway:)

Settle on €4, no one wins or loses then
If they're not happy with that they are silly b1tches.

Petrol?

Aishae wrote: »

The problem is how to handle them.

good point

Aishae wrote: »

Maybe explain you can't afford the trip every weekend anymore to see if theyd then be more forthcoming with a little contribution to the petrol.
Or tell them you have no need to make the trip now, so by that note you will not be free/ able to afford the petrol when you don't even need to go - or however you want to put it.

this is another good point. Unfortunetly, I have to make this journey every weekend. so It wouldnt be possible for me to say Ive no need to make the journey.

Petrol?

RoverJames wrote: »

Settle on €4, no one wins or loses then
If they're not happy with that they are silly b1tches.

You think €4 is fair? :pac: I just feel so tired of arguing with them. They are so tight that they complain over 1/2euro. no matter what amount I seem to suggest its fired down. Thats why I said a fiver today which I thought was reasonable

Aishae

RoverJames wrote: »

Petrol? wrote: »

they never refsued, sorry if Ive confused you.

they offered 3euro while I asked for 5euro. I was querying whether or not I should be charging and if so, how much?

thanks for the helpful reply anyway:)

Settle on €4, no one wins or loses then
If they're not happy with that they are silly b1tches.

Ah right. Well the trips wear out the break pads and tires faster. Plus - the more people in the car, the more petrol it uses.

Petrol?

Aishae wrote: »

Ah right. Well the trips wear out the break pads and tires faster. Plus - the more people in the car, the more petrol it uses.

Yeah these points have been made already and I have mentioned this to these girls but they just don't seem to get it.

Aishae

Petrol? wrote: »

Aishae wrote: »

Ah right. Well the trips wear out the break pads and tires faster. Plus - the more people in the car, the more petrol it uses.

Yeah these points have been made already and I have mentioned this to these girls but they just don't seem to get it.

Either they really don't comprehend running a car and refuse to understand or they're aware of that and just being stingy.

What if in future you fill the tank mid journey and before you go to pay you say 'ok girls we all chip in here'?