Get Dark Souls or Skyrim?

Bonesy.

What to get? I'll end up getting both eventually..but which should I get on release date?Can't decide..

johnners2981

Both, I've pre ordered dark souls to get the game guide and pre ordered skyrim for the proper map. Never pre ordered before this

ShadowHearth

Dark souls.

Bonavox

Skyrim. What a silly question. :pac:

Magill

Both... Dark souls looks YUMMMMMMY !! But if your only getting one... i guess darksouls since its out next week ? Full month to save up for skyrim.

richymcdermott

Dark souls

Your facial expression will change :

When ya get the game ::D
When ya start it up::)
First enemy encounter::p
Deathtraps::mad:
Losing all your souls::(
First Boss battle::eek:

Let the game begins :pac::pac:

Sisko

Did you play demon souls yeah?

Personally I would recommend dark souls but I loved demon souls and found Oblivion to be mediocre in the end once I got over the shiny graphics.

But if you are only a casual gamer I would point you towards skyrim.

Dark souls are for those seeking a challenge , a game that really pushes you. Skyrim would be more escapism but weak on gameplay.

Both very different games too.

Sephiroth_dude

skyrim for me..........I can see dark souls being frustrating for me,is it an open world game too ya?

johnny_ultimate

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

skyrim for me..........I can see dark souls being frustrating for me,is it an open world game too ya?

It's a game that bends you over and takes advantage of you at every opportunity, and all the better for it. It's semi-open world - I imagine it, like Demons Souls, will let you play the game in an order of your choice. Levels are kind of like mazes you have to navigate to get to the boss.

It's also probably going to be one of the greatest games of the year, or hell all time.

Skyrim can, in the words of Donnie Darko, go suck a ****. It'll probably be grand if not great: a pleasant, empty and utterly formulaic fantasy word to frolic around in with dragons and stuff. Dark Souls will challenge you around every corner, and separate the men from the boys so to speak. I think I'd rather spend 100 hours with the latter.

Bonesy.

Sisko wrote: »

Did you play demon souls yeah?

Personally I would recommend dark souls but I loved demon souls and found Oblivion to be mediocre in the end once I got over the shiny graphics.

But if you are only a casual gamer I would point you towards skyrim.

Dark souls are for those seeking a challenge , a game that really pushes you. Skyrim would be more escapism but weak on gameplay.

Both very different games too.

I'm actually only getting it this week , and seeing the amount of hours to endure..I would definatley not be done by the time Dark Souls comes out..BUT I want to trade Dead Island in against it before it loses value..so yeh..

megaten

Get Dark Souls when it comes out. For Skyrim wait a year for the inevitable mass of game breaking bugs to be sorted out and get the game of the year edition with all the dlc.

Bonesy.

megaten wrote: »

Get Dark Souls when it comes out. For Skyrim wait a year for the inevitable mass of game breaking bugs to be sorted out and get the game of the year edition with all the dlc.

Very good thinking

johnners2981

Why's skyrim getting picked on here? Both games will be great. Dark souls will obviously be more challenging and complex, its a totally different kind of game.
But I think skyrim will be one of the best games ever, maybe my expectations are too high

Big Knox

Dark Souls every day of the week

Although I will be getting both!!

YouSavedMyLife

Dark Souls.
Ive never been so hype for a game as far as i can remember. When you play it (Demons Souls), it feels like one of those games you used to play back in the day that didnt give you any kind of crutch to lean on, and was unrelenting in its difficulty. Games these days give you auto-aim this and regenerating health that. It pulls no punches. The athmosphere is so dark you would be surprised that it game from a Japanese developer considering all of the teeny bopper crap that country has spewed out in recent years.

As for Skyrim. Yeah it looks alright and i might give it a look but Oblivion did nothing for me at all, but maybe i didnt give it a chance as i kinda gave up after the first portal quest thing-a-majig

richymcdermott

not to forget , demons souls has the best online ever , invading other peoples worlds or helping others out always leaves you on your toes , thinking the a.i was bad enough having some elite black phantom invade your world runs off , hiding , ya wish you had your blue stone with ya on your journey to HELL!!!

Overheal

whaaaat is Dark Souls?

johnny_ultimate

Overheal wrote: »

whaaaat is Dark Souls?

A glorious nightmare.

F1ngers

Bonesy. wrote: »

What to get? I'll end up getting both eventually..but which should I get on release date?Can't decide..

Dark Souls all the way.

Bonesy. wrote: »

I'm actually only getting it this week

Lucky bastard, the pain and suffering you are going to endure playing Demon's Souls - followed by pure elation of taking down your first boss.
I'd love to experience it again - You will enjoy it immensly.

Overheal wrote: »

whaaaat is Dark Souls?

It will be THE game of this gen. Taking over from Demon's Souls.

tuxy

Another vote for Dark Souls here. Only playing through Demon Souls now. Difficult game, it really punishes careless mistakes. You have to take your time, learn from mistakes.
Such a rewarding game.

Robert ninja

Lol at the 'both' replies. He said he's getting both but just wants to know which one FIRST. Lazy feckers not even reading a short post XD

Anyway, as personal opinion, I say get Skyrim first since it probably won't last as long as Dark Souls. That way you can play through it a couple of times... but Dark Souls goes online so there'll be plenty of firend and grinding fun for ya there... meaning it can last a lot longer and seems like a smarter choice to get it later if you're not getting much after that either. Have fun.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

dark souls will last longer than skyrim?
I didn't know dark souls was a 300+ hour game

Irish_Elect_Eng

I have played all the Daggerfall games, and while oblivion was the least ground-breaking of the series, it was still a very enjoyable game with a huge non linear world.

Demon souls was good,but the huge hype surrounding the release of Dark Souls has me a bit concerned as that usually precedes a game that sucks...but I live in hope that it will be even better than Demon soul

Optimalprimerib

Could you not just rent dark souls, see if it appeals to you and base your opinion on that.

I never played demons souls (being a 360 owner), so i really don't know what to expect from dark souls. I have not heard anything but good things about demon souls but I have a sneaky feeling that there is a lot of bravado clinging to these games. If someone said that they are sh1t, it would be e-penis suicide.

That said... There's only one way to find out.

Bonesy.

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

Could you not just rent dark souls, see if it appeals to you and base your opinion on that.

I never played demons souls (being a 360 owner), so i really don't know what to expect from dark souls. I have not heard anything but good things about demon souls but I have a sneaky feeling that there is a lot of bravado clinging to these games. If someone said that they are sh1t, it would be e-penis suicide.

That said... There's only one way to find out.

I would usually do that with any game I was going to decide between but with this being so many hours I doubt I'd even be able to get into the game by the time I have to bring it back

Kiith

If it's just a choice of which to get first, get Dark Souls. It's out over a month before Skyrim.

As someone who loved both games, i'd still say Skyrim. I loved Demons Souls, and will love Dark Souls, but the Elder Scrolls games have been some of my favourite for a long time. Morrowind remains to this day one of my favourite games of all time, with an amazing and massive game world. Oblivion was a bit more generic, but it was still amazing. It has it's problems, but so did Demons Souls.

Either way, both are day 1 purchases for me.

johnny_ultimate

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

dark souls will last longer than skyrim?
I didn't know dark souls was a 300+ hour game

300+ hours of optional fluff, though, if Oblivion is anything to go by.

Most people are saying Dark Souls on a first playthrough is a solid hundred hours long. I think when you reach three figures, you're into value for money territory anyway.

F1ngers

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

dark souls will last longer than skyrim?
I didn't know dark souls was a 300+ hour game

In Demon's Souls I have 1 character at over 240 hours...:o
Had other characters at over 100 hours too.
I imagine Dark Souls will last longer than that.
So yeah, Dark Souls is a 300+ hour game.

penev10

Isn't Dark Souls supposed to be 100 hours for one playthrough? Add to that playing NG+, then starting with a new build..... easy 300 hours of your life eaten up.

Magill

Irish_Elect_Eng wrote: »

Demon souls was good,but the huge hype surrounding the release of Dark Souls has me a bit concerned as that usually precedes a game that sucks...but I live in hope that it will be even better than Demon soul

Going by every preview and review diary i've read... its better (And harder) than demon souls in almost every way.... wooohoo !!

Big Knox

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

dark souls will last longer than skyrim?
I didn't know dark souls was a 300+ hour game

As I said already both are day one purchases for me but I know i'll get tired of Skyrim long before I will with Dark Souls.

One playthrough takes 100+ hours and thats just the main storyline. Realistically if anyone got 300 hours of playtime out of Oblivion with or without Mods I would have to question their sanity. The combat gets extremely boring after a few hours...

humanji

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

300+ hours of optional fluff, though, if Oblivion is anything to go by.

Most people are saying Dark Souls on a first playthrough is a solid hundred hours long. I think when you reach three figures, you're into value for money territory anyway.

Now, I've never played Demon Souls and know little about it or Dark Souls, but isn't the point that you die and repeat everything over and over until you get past?

If that's the case, then it would only be comparable to Skyrim if you also played that over and over, wouldn't it? I'm not trying to be smart or anything, but I thought that was the point of Dark Souls and why people enjoyed it (the frustration followed by the elation).

I'm debating getting Dark Souls, but am not sure if it's for me. I watched 30 mins of gameplay and it didn't do much for me. But the fact that so many people are singing it's praises and those of Demon Souls, it makes me feel like I'm missing out.

But to answer the OP, obviously if you're thinking you'd like both then get Dark Soul, as you'll have a month or so to save up for Skyrim. And as said before, it'll give them time to release any patches that are needed.

johnners2981

humanji wrote: »

I'm debating getting Dark Souls, but am not sure if it's for me. I watched 30 mins of gameplay and it didn't do much for me. But the fact that so many people are singing it's praises and those of Demon Souls, it makes me feel like I'm missing out.

If you don't get play dark souls, you are definitely missing out

Retr0gamer

Demon's Souls is far and away the best game this generation for me so if Dark Souls is half as good then it's a sure fire for my game of the year. I'm broke but living on beans on toaster next week will be worth it.

humanji

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Demon's Souls is far and away the best game this generation for me so if Dark Souls is half as good then it's a sure fire for my game of the year. I'm broke but living on beans on toaster next week will be worth it.

Won't that electrocute you?

hooradiation

humanji wrote: »

Now, I've never played Demon Souls and know little about it or Dark Souls, but isn't the point that you die and repeat everything over and over until you get past?

It appears to be almost Sisyphean and aimed at people with a hell of a lot more free time than I have.
Not my cup of tea honestly - but if the OP is trying to decide between two games that wear the insane time investment needed like a badge of honour then I guess the one that also decides to punish you ceaselessly is probably the best bet.

So, yeah, dark souls, i guess...

johnny_ultimate

humanji wrote: »

Now, I've never played Demon Souls and know little about it or Dark Souls, but isn't the point that you die and repeat everything over and over until you get past?

If that's the case, then it would only be comparable to Skyrim if you also played that over and over, wouldn't it? I'm not trying to be smart or anything, but I thought that was the point of Dark Souls and why people enjoyed it (the frustration followed by the elation).

The difficulty of Demon's / Dark Souls would best be described as 'challenging' rather than 'hard'. There's no denying it has a higher level of difficulty than your average game, but once you learn to play there are very consistent and dare I say 'fair' rules you must abide. It's a fine line, but in Demon's Soul when you die it's usually your fault - not being careful enough, or pushing your luck too far. Dark Souls could easily miss that balance if just aims for hard, hard, hard (as I said elsewhere, one preview worryingly mentioned a stealth death pit or two) but the joy of the first game is feeling like you are genuinely conquering the world. And the world is built to be conquered.

Sure, you'll die a lot, but you'll come back and push forward, even in moments of pure frustration when an hour of work is cruelly rendered moot by a misjudged sidestep. You'll slowly push past one group of enemies and onto the next. Get cocky and you die. Your fault. Take your time, obey and learn the rules, and you'll be able to push onwards. And there's a sense of satisfaction to that pacing other games can't manage.

By all accounts it's a rather big game. Maybe it lacks the square footage of Skyrim, but how much of that is going to be empty space? Demon's Souls had the best level design of any game in recent times. Oblivion had a pretty open world, but the level design was dreadful - repetitive, endlessly recycled assets were their excuse for dungeons.

Demon's Souls was an utterly unique experience, with hundreds of hours of content if you wanted. A world that adapted as you played, equipment hidden and requiring hours of involving work to get your hands on, and all sorts of other secrets. It was a game that always rewarded exploration and commitment. I don't have the time to commit 100s of hours to a game either, and hopefully the 'core', less OCD game of Dark Souls will not take five or six full days of playing to complete. But the option is there. I have no doubt Skyrim will be great in its own way, but I'd be surprised if it provided the same unique, varied rewards Dark Souls will.

penev10

I didn't think Demon's Souls would be for me, I was half expecting to exchange it within a week of getting it. I took a gamble on it as there was nothing else out around that time (June 2010).

I'm no masochist, I like a moderate challenge and hate having to relay parts of games over and over but DS is so rewarding. I'm a RPG fan so maybe that helped with the grinding aspect but it;s such a great experience - being utterly alone in an evil, punishing environment with such an oppressive atmosphere but such a great levelling dynamic and the single best upgrading system I've come accross.

So, yeah, give it a go!

Sl!mCharles

wish i had a PS3

johnny_ultimate

Sl!mCharles wrote: »

wish i had a PS3

Do you have a 360?

Then: Good news, everyone!

Grayditch

I need both of these games. I couldn't chose between them. We're talking the next games from the makers of Demon's Souls and Oblivion. I'd chose either of these over any Uncharted Asylums, Modern Battlefields, Fifa Evolutions or Gears Of Rages with ease, but I couldn't chose between both.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

humanji wrote: »

Won't that electrocute you?

that's just how hard you have to be to play demon souls

Retr0gamer

TBH Demon's Souls difficulty level is blown way out of proportion. It's finishable by anyone. The press just went over the top considering it's one of the few games released that actually punishes you for dying instead of letting anyone finish it by bumbling through on recharging health and checkpoints.

Sl!mCharles

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Do you have a 360?

Then: Good news, everyone!

Yes I have a 360. so many PS3 exclusives I'd love to play is all

rickyjb

Retr0gamer wrote: »

TBH Demon's Souls difficulty level is blown way out of proportion. It's finishable by anyone. The press just went over the top considering it's one of the few games released that actually punishes you for dying instead of letting anyone finish it by bumbling through on recharging health and checkpoints.

I have to agree with this, I'm far from a hardcore gamer or anything but I thought it was pretty manageable once you learned from your mistakes and concentrated on what you were doing. Running forward into a group of enemies will inevitably get you killed but taking your time and picking them off one by one while healing occasionally usually got you through, even without much additional levelling up of your character. I wouldn't call that level of difficulty "extreme" or anything like it.

Hopefully Dark Souls will take a similar view with the difficulty level and not throw in too many cheap shots. As mentioned above the key thing will be that it should be your fault every time you die, not the games fault.

Magill

rickyjb wrote: »

I have to agree with this, I'm far from a hardcore gamer or anything but I thought it was pretty manageable once you learned from your mistakes and concentrated on what you were doing. Running forward into a group of enemies will inevitably get you killed but taking your time and picking them off one by one while healing occasionally usually got you through, even without much additional levelling up of your character. I wouldn't call that level of difficulty "extreme" or anything like it.

Hopefully Dark Souls will take a similar view with the difficulty level and not throw in too many cheap shots. As mentioned above the key thing will be that it should be your fault every time you die, not the games fault.

Yup, the actual difficulty was never really that extreme like you said.. it can be heartbreaking if you lose all your souls tho !! which is something i think a lot of newcomers to proper RPG's were put off by.

But once ya learn not to play the game like its dragonage, i.e Leeroy jenkin's style AOE pulling ! and use your brain a bit.. its extremely rewarding.

rickyjb

Magill wrote: »

Yup, the actual difficulty was never really that extreme like you said.. it can be heartbreaking if you lose all your souls tho !! which is something i think a lot of newcomers to proper RPG's were put off by.

But once ya learn not to play the game like its dragonage, i.e Leeroy jenkin's style AOE pulling ! and use your brain a bit.. its extremely rewarding.

You did have the opportunity to get them back at least, if you were careful. The most soul destroying part of the game was losing all your souls at a difficult bit that it'd taken you ages to get to, then getting killed immediately by something stupid at the start of a level thus losing all your hard-earned souls for good. Every time you died with a good few souls your instinct was to try and sprint back to where you lost them as quickly as possible. I thought this was a clever move on the developers part as if there's one thing you (generally) didn't get away with in demon's souls it was trying to go too fast or taking stuff for granted.

This worked the other way too as if you did manage to make it back you would now have all the souls you collected getting to that point again plus the ones you lost the last time you died. They really nailed the whole effort/achievement/reward aspect of gaming in my opinion.

Kiith

rickyjb wrote: »

You did have the opportunity to get them back at least, if you were careful. The most soul destroying part of the game was losing all your souls at a difficult bit that it'd taken you ages to get to, then getting killed immediately by something stupid at the start of a level thus losing all your hard-earned souls for good. Every time you died with a good few souls your instinct was to try and sprint back to where you lost them as quickly as possible. I thought this was a clever move on the developers part as if there's one thing you (generally) didn't get away with in demon's souls it was trying to go too fast or taking stuff for granted.

That's what always happened to me. Would carefully make my way through a level, taking my time and collecting everything, but i'd get killed with 50k souls. Respawn, start running back, and fall off a cliff/roasted by dragon. Queue joypad smashing off wall.

Most of my deaths in the game were just by me not being careful enough. It's a tough game, but not insanely difficult like some people seem to think. Punishing is the right word.

tuxy

Is it too late to pre order Dark Souls to get the extra's? And if not where does one order from?

Snakeblood

tuxy wrote: »

Is it too late to pre order Dark Souls to get the extra's? And if not where does one order from?

http://www.gamestop.ie/core/common/default.aspx?quickSearch=Dark%20souls

Bonesy.

And could I trade in Dead Island in gamestop (cause last time I checked it had 35e store cred) and get it on a gamestop card and get Dark Souls when it comes out?(also for future reference)