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good value green fees

  • 28-09-2011 4:21pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭


    well lads some really excellent value out there at the moment
    played some fantastic courses lately so i thought id make a list
    feel free to add a coures where youv played that you thought was excellent value, excluding opens
    mcreddin E 30 + buggy
    coolattin E 35
    woodenbridge E 20 earlybird
    gowran park E 20 earlybird
    enniscorthy E 15 earlybird
    waterford castle E 24 earlybird
    dungarvan E 12 earlybird
    callan E 20
    castlecomer E 20
    faithlegg E 25


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    Gowran is 20 quid midweek regardless of time ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭mcgarrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sssssiiiiimon


    Is macreddin only 30 euro including a buggy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭david


    Is macreddin only 30 euro including a buggy?
    Mon-Fri if you bring 4. EUR35 otherwise!

    Dave.

    Golf Manager,
    Macreddin GC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,176 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Playing Ballinrobe next week. €20 Mon-Thurs. Excellent value for a very good course


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭sssssiiiiimon


    david wrote: »
    Mon-Fri if you bring 4. EUR35 otherwise!

    Dave.

    Golf Manager,
    Macreddin GC.

    Thats fantastic value. i'm going to book a greenfee for Monday so. Thanks David


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭Icepickle


    My club, Woodlands in Kildare, have Winter Green Fee Specials;

    Midweek (All Day) - 3 Ball €30 & 4 Ball €40
    W/End (PM Only) - 3 Ball €40 & 4 Ball €50

    Alot of work was done last year on fairway drainage & additional hard surface paths were built around teeboxes which have made a big difference to playing conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭liam12989


    dont forget lads good value and cheap greenfees means course maintenance has gone out the window


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    liam12989 wrote: »
    dont forget lads good value and cheap greenfees means course maintenance has gone out the window

    ehhhh not really, ive played on a few places for 15 and 20 quid thats been looked after!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭liam12989


    cant see it tbh...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    woodlands at 10 euro before 10.30 is in great nick, gowran at 20 is the same, plenty around man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Playing Rathcore for 30 this saturday

    Cracking price for a weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭chrisp2281


    Looking for somewhere to play tomorrow that does buggy rental? anywhere within 30 minute drive of South Dublin (Dundrum area). any ideas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭david


    liam12989 wrote: »
    dont forget lads good value and cheap greenfees means course maintenance has gone out the window
    I'm insulted by that blanket statement. It's a free market and there are many, many top class courses adapting their business model to provide a fantastic product at realistic money to help keep afloat. It's survival of the fittest, there is a complete over supply of quality courses in this country and if you can't look after your bread and butter (basic course maintenance) people won't play there again regardless of price. End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Kid Charlemagne


    well said david.
    chap is coming on slaggin off courses he hasnt played - makes me wonder what his agenda is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭liam12989


    come off it lads this is the reason the golf market like the hotel market is f***ked....Underpricin the **** outta it and not makin it easy for any club to demand a decent greenfee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭AldilaMan


    liam12989 wrote: »
    come off it lads this is the reason the golf market like the hotel market is f***ked....Underpricin the **** outta it and not makin it easy for any club to demand a decent greenfee


    To quote Bill Clinton from 1992 - "It's the economy stupid"

    If there's no demand for green fees at €50 a round then you have to price it appropriately to create demand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭david


    liam12989 wrote: »
    come off it lads this is the reason the golf market like the hotel market is f***ked....Underpricin the **** outta it and not makin it easy for any club to demand a decent greenfee
    So you're saying the golf industry should get some price-fixing cartel going so course management don't have to adapt their business model and think outside of the box?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭david


    liam12989 wrote: »
    come off it lads this is the reason the golf market like the hotel market is f***ked....Underpricin the **** outta it and not makin it easy for any club to demand a decent greenfee
    Are you saying that the hotel & golf industry would be less screwed if we kept Celtic Tiger rates through recession?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Played Craddockstown this year for €15 on earlybird, super little track in fantastic condition. Best value i've gotten this year though was Naas for €20, not a blade of grass out of place and a great testing round of golf. Theres some great value to be had out there atm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭golfwallah


    david wrote: »
    I'm insulted by that blanket statement. It's a free market and there are many, many top class courses adapting their business model to provide a fantastic product at realistic money to help keep afloat. It's survival of the fittest, there is a complete over supply of quality courses in this country and if you can't look after your bread and butter (basic course maintenance) people won't play there again regardless of price. End of.

    Spot on, David! The clubs and courses that give customers value for money in terms of quality experience at affordable prices will survive. The rest don't deserve to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭davidrafferty


    liam12989 wrote: »
    come off it lads this is the reason the golf market like the hotel market is f***ked....Underpricin the **** outta it and not makin it easy for any club to demand a decent greenfee

    “Decent” green fees charged by golf clubs stuck in the now defunct Celtic Tiger model = overpriced not underpriced golf for the hard pressed golfer in 2011.
    Take home pay is shrinking and golf clubs, like their customers, have to adapt to survive.
    Most of these same customers are still playing golf but are voting with their feet to get good value – away from golf clubs still stuck in overpricing mode.
    It’s competition – not price fixing that will force the fittest clubs to adapt and do what it takes to give value for money. The rest will be history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    Rathbane in Limerick for €3 mid week......

    Oops, did someone mention good course aswell as value!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Unglika Norse


    A bit off topic but the door has been opened by other comments.

    Golf survived and thrived in the past because of its exclusiveness and cartel like behavior.
    Because of this every Tom Dick and Harry with a bit of ground looked to open a golf course with the idea that they could emulate the long standing traditional club who through it’s efforts over many years had built a sound and solid business and get in on a slice of the action.

    Many clubs are now offering green fees simply to turn money, as they try to keep their debts and running costs under some sort of control and keep banks happy with repayments and many are not succeeding with this practice.

    A large number of the “resort courses” are anecdotally in serious financial difficulty due to their business model and are being run to the determent of other courses by selling at unsustainable green fee rates compared to their running cost simply to try and ride out the current economic storm.

    Not every club has the luxury of going into receivership to alleviate their debt only to be bought back at a fraction of the debt owed, (only last week a former entity of a well known golf club was listed for strike off,) with debts cleared and a new slate to write on, such a club is in an obvious position to reduce its rates. As is the club who does not have to pay its creditors due to being protected by receivership.

    Part of the solution to the problem is in the hands of the GUI/ILGU in as much as that any course that has been put into receivership should lose its affiliation even given the fact that it is the club that is affiliated. Furthermore, golf clubs should only allow those persons who are members of the GUI/ILGU to avail of lower green fee rates and although this will no doubt bring howls of protest, recreate the exclusivity that had made golf the success that it was.

    For persons who are not members, the pay as you go courses who are not affiliated can fight it out on a survival of the fittest basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭pajodublin


    just look at Killeen Castle.
    Its exclusivity has been its downfall. It got the Ladies Irish Open and then the Solheim Cup.
    The only thing that has saved this course from being closed is the fact it's been given the Ladies Irish Open again for 2012.
    It's leaking money as no one wants to pay the huge fees to play it.
    It has houses on site that they can't sell worth millions.
    Taken over by NAMA
    It's royally Fecked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Unglika Norse


    pajodublin wrote: »
    just look at Killeen Castle.
    Its exclusivity has been its downfall. It got the Ladies Irish Open and then the Solheim Cup.
    The only thing that has saved this course from being closed is the fact it's been given the Ladies Irish Open again for 2012.
    It's leaking money as no one wants to pay the huge fees to play it.
    It has houses on site that they can't sell worth millions.
    Taken over by NAMA
    It's royally Fecked


    It wasn't the exclusivity it was the business model that was wrong, and it will now ride out the storm on the back of nama who has given it a 10 year leeway,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    pajodublin wrote: »
    just look at Killeen Castle.
    Its exclusivity has been its downfall. It got the Ladies Irish Open and then the Solheim Cup.
    The only thing that has saved this course from being closed is the fact it's been given the Ladies Irish Open again for 2012.
    It's leaking money as no one wants to pay the huge fees to play it.
    It has houses on site that they can't sell worth millions.
    Taken over by NAMA
    It's royally Fecked

    The writing was on the wall in Killeen Castle for a fair while. We played it shortly after it opened (€100 with tea/coffee pastries)... and yer right it was marketed as "exclusive" .. from the security at the gate, to the bag drop area attendants - think there were 6 when we arrived. We had 3 different employees direct us to the locker rooms, final guy was buffing the members golf shoes.

    Beautiful place I grant ya - but that "new type" exclusivity has been proven not to work - I think the joining fee at that stage was 30 g's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭blue note


    But if Kileen Castle starts charging €30 and €40 for green fees just to get some money rolling in what are other courses supposed to charge? The end result will be that they will have to sell green fees at prices that don't really make them any money.

    There are too many clubs at present, and some will have to close. Unfortunately, it will not be simply the best courses that will stay open. There will be good courses without the membership base that will close and poor courses that have been around donkeys years that will stay open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    blue note wrote: »
    But if Kileen Castle starts charging €30 and €40 for green fees just to get some money rolling in what are other courses supposed to charge? The end result will be that they will have to sell green fees at prices that don't really make them any money.....

    Ah I don't really buy into that tbh, it's like the hotel being empty @ full price or full @ half price ... surely it's better to have an income pipeline from green fees irrespective of the perceived full value price. An empty golf course still has overheads. My own club has increased revenue from green fees by €40,000 this year, with a variety of initiatives very few of which paid the "standard green fee"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    blue note wrote: »
    But if Kileen Castle starts charging €30 and €40 for green fees just to get some money rolling in what are other courses supposed to charge? The end result will be that they will have to sell green fees at prices that don't really make them any money.

    There are too many clubs at present, and some will have to close. Unfortunately, it will not be simply the best courses that will stay open. There will be good courses without the membership base that will close and poor courses that have been around donkeys years that will stay open.

    I think you're right. The idea that the fittest will survive is dubious at best. There is an equal chance that all courses will be terminally damaged. It's like when two lions are placed in an area that can only support one - the strongest doesn't survive - they both die.

    Killeen Castle selling green fees at €30 means that a nearby 'lesser' course has to reduce their fees to 15-20 (say) thereby putting that course at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Played Carrick-on-Suir yesterday. Green Fees are €15 Mon-Fri.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭colmsix


    open singles beaverstown golf club monday 10th october. last chance for .1's back. greens are in top shape.15 -20 euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭tamloc


    colmsix wrote: »
    open singles beaverstown golf club monday 10th october. last chance for .1's back. greens are in top shape.15 -20 euro

    Tut tut!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭colmsix


    tamloc what are you tut tuting about. just trying to give my home course a plug and get people out for singles on a monday when not much else is happening around:). for the record i believe you only have a lend of good golf for a while and then it passed on to the next bloke so when you play well grab it and enjoy so off 5 all .1 's count either way . rant over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 golfer99


    You can get a 4ball in Dunmurry Springs for €100 during the week, played it the other day, the green are in some great shape for this time of year


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭BUACHAILL


    Im pretty sure he was only having a cheeky dig at your reference to getting a .1 back. It does read like you should play just for the .1 and we all have guys we know with inflated handicaps for that exact reason. but pretty sure it was meant in good gest !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Society Day in Glasson for team of 6 - EUR25 per man on Sunday 23rd

    Also heritage Open week week after next EUR30 for the singles.

    Both very good value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    TUBBY wrote: »
    Also heritage Open week week after next EUR30 for the singles.

    Do you have any details on this, don't see anything about it on their website or on the GUI Open Fixtures.

    Also I see the European club have an open singles competition on Tues 18th and Thurs 20th, anyone any ideas of the entry fee as again no details on their website. For such a high ranking course their website is particularly poor.

    Druid's Glen also has an open singles competition on Tues 18th for €40. Have never played the course so anyone any ideas what condition it's in with all the rain as of late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭Kevinmarkham


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Do you have any details on this, don't see anything about it on their website or on the GUI Open Fixtures.

    Also I see the European club have an open singles competition on Tues 18th and Thurs 20th, anyone any ideas of the entry fee as again no details on their website. For such a high ranking course their website is particularly poor.

    Druid's Glen also has an open singles competition on Tues 18th for €40. Have never played the course so anyone any ideas what condition it's in with all the rain as of late.


    Heh Dr Colossus. I am on the text alerts for the Heritage so thats how I got it. Monday and Wednesday are the two singles days. Both next week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭redhill


    Do you have any details on this, don't see anything about it on their website or on the GUI Open Fixtures.

    Also I see the European club have an open singles competition on Tues 18th and Thurs 20th, anyone any ideas of the entry fee as again no details on their website. For such a high ranking course their website is particularly poor.

    Druid's Glen also has an open singles competition on Tues 18th for €40. Have never played the course so anyone any ideas what condition it's in with all the rain as of late.

    Played 2 rnds on Druids Glen 10 days ago, it was in great condition. Very much a thinking mans course, you can't rip the driver off every tee, greens were exceedingly fast for the end of sept


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭plumber77




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    TUBBY wrote: »
    Society Day in Glasson for team of 6 - EUR25 per man on Sunday 23rd

    They wouldn't give us a rate like that for the Boards Society. :mad:

    I played there on easter monday for €30 which i think was a great deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    They wouldn't give us a rate like that for the Boards Society. :mad:

    I played there on easter monday for €30 which i think was a great deal.

    This is for Open Comp CharlieIRL. Team of 6 hard to get but at EUR25 a man, it worth looking. Its on Sunday week I think.

    Between that and Heritage (and maybe Galway Bay) I hope to have a busy few weeks:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭tamloc


    TUBBY wrote: »
    This is for Open Comp CharlieIRL. Team of 6 hard to get but at EUR25 a man, it worth looking. Its on Sunday week I think.

    Between that and Heritage (and maybe Galway Bay) I hope to have a busy few weeks:D

    It is a society comp, it is not run by the golf club. It is to raise funds for local golfers.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    tamloc wrote: »
    It is a society comp, it is not run by the golf club. It is to raise funds for local golfers.

    ahh right, anyone want to play there to make up the 6?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭SkrApsAK


    Dublin City golf course will always do a deal for you if you ask.

    We usually get a 4 ball up there anytime of the week for €25 each which will include 2 buggies. good value and course is always kept very well.
    Some really nice holes too.

    if any of you are unemployed, I think they'll give you a round up there for €12 if you show your dole receipt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    SkrApsAK wrote: »
    Dublin City golf course will always do a deal for you if you ask.

    We usually get a 4 ball up there anytime of the week for €25 each which will include 2 buggies. good value and course is always kept very well.
    Some really nice holes too.

    if any of you are unemployed, I think they'll give you a round up there for €12 if you show your dole receipt.

    So they take it upon themselves to further tax the working and tax paying golfer in the form of a subsidy towards the unemployed green fee rate? Why not offer everyone a standard €20 rate.
    Granted the club are entitled to charge whatever they like to whom ever they choose, it's just that I don't see why an unemployed golfer should be entitled to a significantly reduced green fee rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Kid Charlemagne


    So they take it upon themselves to further tax the working and tax paying golfer in the form of a subsidy towards the unemployed green fee rate? Why not offer everyone a standard €20 rate.
    Granted the club are entitled to charge whatever they like to whom ever they choose, it's just that I don't see why an unemployed golfer should be entitled to a significantly reduced green fee rate.

    Its not a tax now is it?
    Dont be talking daft.

    Presumably they are trying to get extra revenue so are looking to get unemployed people in when the course is quiet during the working week. I doubt their concern is cossetting the unemployed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭SkrApsAK


    its not.....
    its this keep active scheme with the social welfare, to get unemployed to join gyms and play sports etc...

    Good idea really. And definately fair.
    Stop being a begrudger :P


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