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Saudi woman to get ten lashes for driving

  • 27-09-2011 4:20pm
    #1
    MrMatisse
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    Disgusting

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0927/breaking47.html
    A Saudi woman has been sentenced to 10 lashes for defying the kingdom’s ban on female drivers.

    Shaima Ghassaniya was found guilty of driving without the government’s permission.

    No laws prohibit women from driving, but conservative religious edicts have banned it.

    The ruling comes just two days after Saudi King Abdullah announced that, for the first time, women have the right to vote and run in the country’s 2015 local elections.

    Najalaa Harriri, who is also facing court for driving, said she needed to drive to take better care of her children.

    The verdict is the first of its kind in Saudi Arabia. Other women were detained for several days, but had not been sentenced by a court.
    How any country can get away this is beyond belief.


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  • #2
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    She lives there and knows the laws of the country, It might not be right to us but it's their law.


  • #3
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    America should go in with bombs to give them freedom.


  • #4
    bronte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Religion has no place in the ruling of a country.


  • #5
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    But sure its grand, the Saudis are on the American side.


  • #6
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    bronte wrote: »
    Religion has no place in the ruling of a country.

    It's a pity you couldn't have told us that years ago. :cool:


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  • #7
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    bronte wrote: »
    Religion has no place in the ruling of a country.

    Glass houses.....

    Look at us ffs.


  • #8
    Dudess
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    hondasam wrote: »
    She lives there and knows the laws of the country, It might not be right to us but it's their law.
    It's not right full stop - the forbidding of women driving, and the 10 lashes. But yes, she would have known there'd be consequences.


  • #9
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    up for anything wrote: »
    It's a pity you couldn't have told us that years ago. :cool:
    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    Glass houses.....

    Look at us ffs.
    Not really "us" though. And it doesn't for one second mean we don't have a right to criticise Saudi, just like we criticise the catholic church here.

    I cannot understand the logic of the usual "Awful stuff happened in our country, therefore we can't criticise other countries" stuff. As if we hold responsibility for the awful stuff that happened in our country up to 40 years ago...

    And if anyone defends this because "it's their culture", you're a twat...


  • #10
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    hondasam wrote: »
    She lives there and knows the laws of the country, It might not be right to us but it's their law.

    It isn't actually against the law. It's a religious edict. But anyway, sometimes laws are better broken than accepted.


  • #11
    darragh16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    Sure they only got the right to vote... She probably got really excited and drove down the polling station a few years too early.


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  • #12
    tenchi-fan
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    I think we have enough of our own problems without needing to worry about a Saudi woman breaking her country's laws.


  • #13
    Chuck Stone
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    hondasam wrote: »
    She lives there and knows the laws of the country, It might not be right to us but it's their law.

    What?
    No laws prohibit women from driving, but conservative religious edicts have banned it.

    This unecessary violence is doled out due to religious edict is just plain discriminatory against half the population of that country.


  • #14
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Islam the religion of peace and tolerance :rolleyes:


  • #15
    4leto
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    Only 10 lashes for endangering other road users

    No woman drivers Saudi roads must be the safest in the world.:D

    Anyway I will hide behind the coach now.


  • #16
    stephen_k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭stephen_k


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qdhbkTko4


  • #17
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Religion has stupid laws that effect people everywhere in the world. Here even today to a lesser extent. Religion should have no effect on anyone's day to day life with laws or rules that don't want it to regardless. But it does.


  • #18
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Islam the religion of peace and tolerance :rolleyes:
    Meh, I could cherry-pick an atrocity done in the name of christianity and write "Christianity, the religion of peace and tolerance :rolleyes:".

    Give me a moderate muslim before a fundamentalist christian any day... and vice versa.


  • #19
    Dudess
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    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    I think we have enough of our own problems without needing to worry about a Saudi woman breaking her country's laws.
    Shur you could say that about anything ever.

    There's a building going up in the playing field in my neighbourhood - I'd better worry about that rather than worrying about anything at a national level...


  • #20
    Captain Chaos
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Not really "us" though. And it doesn't for one second mean we don't have a right to criticise Saudi, just like we criticise the catholic church here.

    I cannot understand the logic of the usual "Awful stuff happened in our country, therefore we can't criticise other countries" stuff. As if we hold responsibility for the awful stuff that happened in our country up to 40 years ago...

    And if anyone defends this because "it's their culture", you're a twat...

    I wasn't even hitting at that, I was hitting at stupid stuff that effects us because of religion, because the poster I quoted said that religion should not have any say in the laws of a country.

    It does here with, education, marriage, alcohol, trivial but still effects the average pleb.


  • #21
    keano_afc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Lets send an aid flotilla. Wont someone think of the children!


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  • #22
    willmunny1990
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    Its as if this is a shock or something,these things go on in Arab,Muslim countries all the time its nothing new! Arab countries deal out animalistic style punishment all the time but what can you do?

    You cant keep sending the yanks in to bomb the sh*t out of them


  • #23
    cosmicfart
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    great idea the '10 lashes' we should defo bring it over here and let our perverted totally unreformable sex criminals do their part/community service by dishing out the 10 lashes


  • #24
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    keano_afc wrote: »
    Lets send an aid flotilla. Wont someone think of the children!
    How christian of you...


  • #25
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Arabs are animals
    Phail...


  • #26
    Statistician
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Statistician


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    You cant keep sending the yanks in to bomb the sh*t out of them

    It's worked for the last 10 years.


  • #27
    WindSock
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    4leto wrote: »
    Only 10 lashes for endangering other road users

    No woman drivers Saudi roads must be the safest in the world.:D

    Anyway I will hide behind the coach now.


    Saudi roads....safe? :pac:

    trololololol


    It's a bit dangerous giving her 10 lashes to stick on in traffic. Hard enough to use mascara while driving.


  • #28
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Arabs are animals but what can you do?

    That's it - let all that prejudice just flow out.


  • #29
    SIMPLYTHE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭SIMPLYTHE


    Fieldies Dreams wrote: »
    Well she'l no better next time she tries to drive.

    :mad: why is there no UNLIKE button?:mad:


  • #30
    KeithAFC
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    If that is the law, then OK. Don't think we should be telling them what to do.


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  • #31
    bronte
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    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    Glass houses.....

    Look at us ffs.
    Trust me, I'm no fan of what happens in Ireland either.


  • #32
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Dudess wrote: »
    It's not right full stop - the forbidding of women driving, and the 10 lashes. But yes, she would have known there'd be consequences.

    Of course it's not right but we cannot change it.
    My name is URL wrote: »
    It isn't actually against the law. It's a religious edict. But anyway, sometimes laws are better broken than accepted.

    Yes I know it's a religious thing, we cannot change that either.


  • #33
    SIMPLYTHE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭SIMPLYTHE


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    If that is the law, then OK. Don't think we should be telling them what to do.

    It's great being a man and not having to worry about these things....:rolleyes:


  • #34
    4leto
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    I seen a programme about Sharea law, I was expecting to be horrified, but no, the system actually works and in some case better then our system.

    In the case of lashes it wasn't cat of nine tales stuff, it was more a symbolic public humiliation.

    In saying that the programme I seen was filmed in a part of Nigeria and not Saudi.

    Because we all know what a progressive and fair country that is (not) Saudi even makes Nigeria seem like a shining beacon of the free world.


  • #35
    dlofnep
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    Saudi Arabia is a shít-hole. Was just about to post a thread about this. What a bunch of archaic ****. Shows what people will justify in the name of religion.


  • #36
    stovelid
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    4leto wrote: »
    In the case of lashes it wasn't cat of nine tales stuff, it was more a symbolic public humiliation.

    Ah well that's grand so.


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  • #37
    Saila
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    10 lashes eh, does that mean they got a bunch of guys to run a train on her :confused:


  • #38
    hondasam
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    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    What?

    What? am I a mind reader?:confused:


  • #39
    WindSock
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    hondasam wrote: »
    Of course it's not right but we cannot change it.



    Yes I know it's a religious thing, we cannot change that either.



    Who says we are trying to change it? Surely the women who are pissed off in Saudi have a right to at least try.

    Fair fecks to her. Hope more and more stand up the the scumbags now as a result.


  • #40
    KeithAFC
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    SIMPLYTHE wrote: »
    It's great being a man and not having to worry about these things....:rolleyes:
    Women know the law in that country. If you aren't allowed to drive, don't drive. Better "human rights" didn't happen over night in the western world.


  • #41
    The_Kew_Tour
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Women know the law in that country. If you aren't allowed to drive, don't drive. Better "human rights" didn't happen over night in the western world.


    Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia? Have you ever seen what these women have put up with?

    I have and its not as simple as a you think you know it.


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  • #42
    wes
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    Yeah, Saudi Arabia is a mad place alright, and its sad to see this kind of thing happen.


  • #43
    dlofnep
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Know your role you whores, and obey God and Country.

    I fixed your post, because that's pretty much what you are saying.


  • #44
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    WindSock wrote: »
    Who says we are trying to change it? Surely the women who are pissed off in Saudi have a right to at least try.

    Fair fecks to her. Hope more and more stand up the the scumbags now as a result.

    Yes they have a right to try and fair play to them, I hope they succeed in getting it changed.


  • #45
    Freddie59
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    Stinicker wrote: »
    Islam the religion of peace and tolerance :rolleyes:

    If you're a man.


  • #46
    4leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    stovelid wrote: »
    Ah well that's grand so.

    I know how this sounds but it was done gently and with the public, it was a shaming and humiliation for their actions of offending the community.

    It was more communal justice then state out of touch justice.

    Like American Judges making offenders wear signs.

    But it worked levels of crime were greatly reduced although you could get a hand amputated, it only happened once and that guy asked for that sentence so he would be forgiven by god for his crime.


  • #47
    Chuck Stone
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia is a shít-hole. Was just about to post a thread about this. What a bunch of archaic ****. Shows what people will justify in the name of religion.


    Booze, hookers and blow for the lads and ten lashes for the girls for driving a car.

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/12/08/inside_saudi_arabias_party_scene

    What a hateful bunch of hypocrites.


  • #48
    KeithAFC
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    I fixed your post, because that's pretty much what you are saying.
    Not at all. This is a different country and a different culture and religion. They take religion more seriously in that part of the world. The Qur'an is literally the truth to most of the people in these countries. It isn't like our part of the world.


  • #49
    Freddie59
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Women know the law in that country. If you aren't allowed to drive, don't drive. Better "human rights" didn't happen over night in the western world.

    This is the 21st century. This is the stuff of the Middle Ages. Just as well Rhianna never goes there - particularly after that DUP chap threw a strop yesterday.:rolleyes:


  • #50
    Freddie59
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Meh, I could cherry-pick an atrocity done in the name of christianity and write "Christianity, the religion of peace and tolerance :rolleyes:".

    Give me a moderate muslim before a fundamentalist christian any day... and vice versa.

    In fairness the thread is not about Christianity.:rolleyes: Now where did I hear that type of argument before.............:D


  • #51
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I fixed your post, because that's pretty much what you are saying.

    Why do you even bother?


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