TV3 choice of champions league matches

AstonMartin

Tonight TV3 are showing UTD v Basel game yet I think the game involving a premier league team that the majority of viewers would prefer to watch is the Bayern v City game. Obviously this comes down to personal preference but I was wondering have TV3 bought the rights to air all the premier league games in partnership with RTE and they alternate days or did each station bid for each individual game as soon as the fixtures were released? from my personal point of view they could get similar viewing figures for all the english champions league matches yet a good portion of the time they pick the less interesting game from a neutrals point of view.

Pinturicchio

AstonMartin wrote: »

Tonight TV3 are showing UTD v Basel game yet I think the game involving a premier league team that the majority of viewers would prefer to watch is the Bayern v City game. Obviously this comes down to personal preference but I was wondering have TV3 bought the rights to air all the premier league games in partnership with RTE and they alternate days or did each station bid for each individual game as soon as the fixtures were released? from my personal point of view they could get similar viewing figures for all the english champions league matches yet a good portion of the time they pick the less interesting game from a neutrals point of view.

There are far more Manchester United fans than there are Manchester City fans in this country.

FearDark

AstonMartin wrote: »

Tonight TV3 are showing UTD v Basel game yet I think the game involving a premier league team that the majority of viewers would prefer to watch is the Bayern v City game. Obviously this comes down to personal preference but I was wondering have TV3 bought the rights to air all the premier league games in partnership with RTE and they alternate days or did each station bid for each individual game as soon as the fixtures were released? from my personal point of view they could get similar viewing figures for all the english champions league matches yet a good portion of the time they pick the less interesting game from a neutrals point of view.

RTE do the same, and it worse when United and Arsenal are playing the same night because they'll ALWAYS show the United game [Arsenal fan]. Supply and demand, there are more United fans in Ireland than they are Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool/City etc. Its not fair but hey.

The absolute worst thing about TV3 is having to put up with Trevor [I dont have a clue] Welsh and Mark [I'm a comedian] Lawrenson.

Having said that, Kirsty is a ****ing cracker.

Dozen Wicked Words

There are far more supporters of "other" teams put together than United fans, and most "other" fans would rather watch a closer, more interesting game with a less obvious outcome.

JimsAlterEgo

AstonMartin wrote: »

Tonight TV3 are showing UTD v Basel game yet I think the game involving a premier league team that the majority of viewers would prefer to watch is the Bayern v City game. Obviously this comes down to personal preference but I was wondering have TV3 bought the rights to air all the premier league games in partnership with RTE and they alternate days or did each station bid for each individual game as soon as the fixtures were released? from my personal point of view they could get similar viewing figures for all the english champions league matches yet a good portion of the time they pick the less interesting game from a neutrals point of view.

Here we go again

Kingp35

Pinturicchio wrote: »

There are far more Manchester United fans than there are Manchester City fans in this country.

There are far more fans of other teams than Man Utd in this country and the vast majority of them would prefer to watch the Bayern V City game.

flahavaj

AstonMartin wrote: »

Tonight TV3 are showing UTD v Basel game yet I think the game involving a premier league team that the majority of viewers would prefer to watch is the Bayern v City game. Obviously this comes down to personal preference but I was wondering have TV3 bought the rights to air all the premier league games in partnership with RTE and they alternate days or did each station bid for each individual game as soon as the fixtures were released? from my personal point of view they could get similar viewing figures for all the english champions league matches yet a good portion of the time they pick the less interesting game from a neutrals point of view.

United = Ratings, whether youy like them or not. They'd be stupid to show City, who sometimes don't even sell out their own ground.

mike65

The City game is the one to watch but RTE/ITV/TV3 are only interested in ratings unless its a total dead rubber when RTE will look elsewhere.

Still there is always the faint chance of seeing Utd slip up tonight

Le King

Kingp35 wrote: »

Pinturicchio wrote: »

There are far more Manchester United fans than there are Manchester City fans in this country.

There are far more fans of other teams than Man Utd in this country and the vast majority of them would prefer to watch the Bayern V City game.

That's not the way TV works and good audience statistics would back this up. I'd say there are more Man United fans here than any of the other teams in the CL combined.

TV3 aren't going to lose viewers to satisfy the likes of you who would prefer to watch a particular game. That's completely retarded to think it was even at question at TV3.

Mitch Connor

Kingp35 wrote: »

There are far more fans of other teams than Man Utd in this country and the vast majority of them would prefer to watch the Bayern V City game.

I reckon if you offered the two up (say on RTE 1 and RTE 2) the United game would get better viewing, because United fans would want to watch the United game, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs (Etc) fans would certainly be more interested in the Munich vs City game, but I reckon the number that would actually watch it are less than the United game. If they HAD to watch either game, they'd watch the City game, but I reckon the vast majority won't watch either.

I'd love to see how the Sky broadcast ratings split (don't think we ever see them). They are showing both games, so it would be interesting to see how the Irish watch more.

amiable

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

Here we go again

How dare someone start a discussion on boards. ''FFS'':D

tallaghtmick

Since the start of the season liverpool have appeared on setanta more than any team why? They are the most supported prem team in Ireland and most of their games are on at 3 on a saturday,Man Utd have played 1 game at 3 on a saturday correct me if im wrong please due to espn and sky showing matches on late sat(espn) or sunday (sky)Its just how the ball rolls ratings wise.

Mars Bar

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Since the start of the season liverpool have appeared on setanta more than any team why? They are the most supported prem team in Ireland and most of their games are on at 3 on a saturday,Man Utd have played 1 game at 3 on a saturday correct me if im wrong please due to espn and sky showing matches on late sat(espn) or sunday (sky)Its just how the ball rolls ratings wise.

United have had no match at 3 on a Saturday. This Saturday will be the first.

ArmaniJeanss

AstonMartin wrote: »

Have TV3 bought the rights to air all the premier league games in partnership with RTE and they alternate days or did each station bid for each individual game as soon as the fixtures were released?

Just to clarify this bit, TV3 have the rights to one game of their choice on each matchday Tuesday, RTE on the Wednesday.
Their is no compulsion on either to pick a Premier League team, they can pick any fixture as their choice (if an LOI team qualifies then they will be obliged to show them).

tallaghtmick

mars bar wrote: »

United have had no match at 3 on a Saturday. This Saturday will be the first.

I thought so I figured by now United had one thanks.

Richard Hillman

I'd prefer to watch it on Setanta anyway. Trevor Welsh is a 90 minute cliche and Lawrenson doesn't have a clue about anything outside the epl and is quite xenophobic

Oat23

Pinturicchio wrote: »

There are far more Manchester United fans than there are Manchester City fans in this country.

Give it 2 years and the gap wont be near as big as it is now

Pinturicchio

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Give it 2 years and the gap wont be near as big as it is now

Of course. It was the same with Chelsea.

Sappy404

FearDark wrote: »

Kirsty is a ****ing cracker.

Her name is Kirsteen. And yes she is.

Are Setanta showing Bayern v City? They showed the Barca v Milan match 2 weeks ago when it wasn't on terrestrial TV.

Blatter

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Pinturicchio wrote: »

There are far more Manchester United fans than there are Manchester City fans in this country.

Give it 2 years and the gap wont be near as big as it is now

I'd say it'll take a bit longer than two years for the gap to close in anyway that's significant.

I'd agree it's inevitable though.

starviewadams

Yeah Setanta Ireland and Sky are showing the Bayern v City match,it's the match I'll be watching anyways.

v3ttel

The United game attracts bigger interest because of the enormous support they have in Ireland.

Neutral fans may prefer the other game, but how many of them would actually watch it, and if they did, would give a sh*t about the outcome?

Even if the numbers were similar (which I doubt, unless you vastly underestimate Uniteds following here), you'd show the game that meant the most to the peope that were watching.

Anyways, I'm sure TV3 would do their homework on which game would attract the bigger rating if they have the choice to pick and choose at will. Pity we don't have the numbers for ourselves.

Although their coverage is horrendous, Kirsteen is unreal.

tallaghtmick

Every abu will be watchin United anyway to cheer on basle;)

Ush1

Do people actually know how T.V ratings are gathered? It's an absolute crock of sh*t. Such a small sample it's essentially useless.

Le King

Ush1 wrote: »

Do people actually know how T.V ratings are gathered? It's an absolute crock of sh*t.

Yes, but those statistics are generally relied upon despite how accurate they may be.

Ush1

Le King wrote: »

Yes, but those statistics are generally relied upon despite how accurate they may be.

How useful are statistics that aren't accurate?

flahavaj

Ush1 wrote: »

Do people actually know how T.V ratings are gathered? It's an absolute crock of sh*t. Such a small sample it's essentially useless.

Its at least a larger sample than those using the argument that "more people on the forum would rather see City/Bayern."

Ush1

flahavaj wrote: »

Its at least a larger sample than those using the argument that "more people on the forum would rather see City/Bayern."

How do you know how many people are using that argument?

Blatter

I might end up being woefully wrong but I've a feeling the Bayern game might not live up to the hype. Think Mancini could go there with a very negative approach and try to frustrate Bayern. I might be wrong though, but that's my gut feeling.

amiable

Blatter wrote: »

I might end up being woefully wrong but I've a feeling the Bayern game might not live up to the hype. Think Mancini could go there with a very negative approach and try to frustrate Bayern. I might be wrong though, but that's my gut feeling.

You might be right, it's the game i'll be watching anyway:)

Fighting Irish

TV stations will show which ever match they think will get the most viewers!! What don't people get about this?

dfx-

I can't stand seeing the big EPL game being shown as anyone else of sound mind with other big games on instead...games like Madrid v Milan, Inter v Munich, Juve v Munich that got Munich out of the group and into the final..huge games, not shown.

But once Citeh go 0-2 up, every neutral switches off. When Man Yoo go 4-0 up, people who are watching that game, Yoo fans, will not switch off.

Which would you pick?

AstonMartin

People in the thread are saying the utd match will get more viewers because there are more utd supporters in ireland.

most of those fans support utd as a loose affiliation rather than be die hard supporters and would rather watch two top european teams where they are familar with both teams and it has the potential to be a great game (could just as easy be a no score bore) than watch an injury ravaged utd team play defensively away to a relatively poor team. The majority of people in this thread alone are planning on watching the city game.

obviously it caters to the casual fan and so would be a game involving an english team rather than the game with the greatest potential to be a football spectacle of open attacking play otherwise they would probably show the napoli game.

i think they picked the wrong game to appeal to the majority. Basel who?

MUSEIST

Fighting Irish wrote: »

TV stations will show which ever match they think will get the most viewers!! What don't people get about this?

While there are a lot of utd fans around I still think there are more neutral football fans who would prefer to watch a more competitive game. The utd game will be a formality in a easy group, fairly meaningless match. The city munich game will be more competitive and will interest more people IMO. Strange decision to be showing this game.

AstonMartin

dfx- wrote: »

I can't stand seeing the big EPL game being shown as anyone else of sound mind with other big games on instead...games like Madrid v Milan, Inter v Munich, Juve v Munich that got Munich out of the group and into the final..huge games, not shown.

But once Citeh go 0-2 up, every neutral switches off. When Man Yoo go 4-0 up, people who are watching that game, Yoo fans, will not switch off.

Which would you pick?

you only have to watch a fraction of the match to be counted as a viewer for statistics and the stats is the big factor in generating advertising revenue so your point is irrevelant from tv3s pov.

AstonMartin

Who here would switch off if city went 2-0 against a good attacking bayern team who will throw the everything at city to get back into the game but would continue to watch utd outplay a poor enough basel team?

dfx-

AstonMartin wrote: »

you only have to watch a fraction of the match to be counted as a viewer for statistics and the stats is the big factor in generating advertising revenue so your point is irrevelant from tv3s pov.

Yeah, but as a business which one would you buy advertising space for?

The one where no-one is watching the advertising at half time because the game is over or those who are watching until the bitter end credits regardless of the result..

AstonMartin

dfx- wrote: »

Yeah, but as a business which one would you buy advertising space for?

The one where no-one is watching the advertising at half time because the game is over or those who are watching until the bitter end credits regardless of the result..

the companies marketing department goes by the actual stats not voodoo premonitons.

homerjay2005

Pinturicchio wrote: »

There are far more Manchester United fans than there are Manchester City fans in this country.

exactly...i like the way the original post says "the majority of viewers", when the majority of this country are either united or liverpool fans and i dont think either of them are that interested in seeing city play.

in reality, if 500,000 people would watch united, city game would probably only attract 50% of that. united and liverpool are the 2 most supported teams in this country and their games attract more viewers. its a no brainer really.

Paparazzo

dooferoaks wrote: »

There are far more supporters of "other" teams put together than United fans, and most "other" fans would rather watch a closer, more interesting game with a less obvious outcome.

Agree with that, and thank fúck for setanta.

tommyhaas

If they don't show Utd, the vast majority of Utd fan's will make the effort to watch the Utd game elsewhere, be it online or another channel, while the non-Utd supporters will watch the City match

However, if they do show Utd, the Utd fan's will watch it, as will the vast majority of neutrals, simply because they wont be arsed making the effort to find another game online etc

As much as I'd prefer to watch the City match, I can't see how it would get more viewers

EDIT: Just noticed the match threads for both games. Despite the Utd thread being started later, it has nearly 4 times as many replies, which serves to somewhat demonstrate the varying levels of interest in both games

steelcityblues

TV3 and RTE make some odd choices.

I remember TV3 choosing Liverpool's last 16 tie against Benfica, over Arsenal's in Madrid. The same year Arsenal got to the final.

MagicMarker

TV3 are obviously showing the UTD game because they think it will get more viewers.

The Man City game is on Setanta Ireland, what's the problem?

flahavaj

Ush1 wrote: »

How do you know how many people are using that argument?

I'm not referring to how many are using the argument. If you're looking for the sample size of how many on the thread would prefer to see City then you'd have to ask the people who think its a valid argument.

flahavaj

The respective match threads and their relative number of posts will be interesting too for all those saying more posters on this forum are interested in the City game.

Ush1

flahavaj wrote: »

I'm not referring to how many are using the argument. If you're looking for the sample size of how many on the thread would prefer to see City then you'd have to ask the people who think its a valid argument.

I'm not looking for that sample size?

flahavaj

Ush1 wrote: »

I'm not looking for that sample size?

I don't really care about the other one.

mike65

tommyhaas wrote: »

EDIT: Just noticed the match threads for both games. Despite the Utd thread being started later, it has nearly 4 times as many replies, which serves to somewhat demonstrate the varying levels of interest in both games

If City were on TV3/RTE/ITV it would have a lot more traffic than it will have

steelcityblues wrote: »

TV3 and RTE make some odd choices.

I remember TV3 choosing Liverpool's last 16 tie against Benfica, over Arsenal's in Madrid. The same year Arsenal got to the final.

As has been pointed out whatever one thinks about the choices its bums on seats that matters in tellyland so Liverpool over Arsenal any day of the week on that score.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

steelcityblues wrote: »

TV3 and RTE make some odd choices.

I remember TV3 choosing Liverpool's last 16 tie against Benfica, over Arsenal's in Madrid. The same year Arsenal got to the final.

Because Liverpool would get more viewers than Arsenal in Ireland.

It's really not that complicated.

Ush1

flahavaj wrote: »

I don't really care about the other one.

What other one?

You said:

Its at least a larger sample than those using the argument that "more people on the forum would rather see City/Bayern."

The sample size I was referring to was 2000 which I believe is the number of homes monitored for the stats.

What is this 2000 larger than exactly and how you do you know it's larger than said thing?

flahavaj

mike65 wrote: »

If City were on TV3/RTE/ITV it would have a lot more traffic than it will have

The City tread's been open since the afternoon and still has 7 posts, inclusing 2 by the OP, so regardless of who's showing it the interest isn't quite as strong as somw would have you believe.