The Presidential Election Discussion Thread (read post 1)

homer simpson

Ok Folks we've decided to merge the current threads and make one thread, please use this thread for discussion but please don't be soapboxing or posting silly things, like abusing any of the candidates.

annascott

Is anyone else disgusted that Donegal County Council will meet tomorrow to agree to back Dana as a presidential candidate?

muffler

The Council still have to meet, discuss and come to a decision so for now I'll lock this and when we have it as FACT then I'll open it again.

muffler

Hot off the press...Donegal County Council have now given their support to Dana. Thread opened again.

danniemcq

muffler wrote: »

Hot off the press...Donegal County Council have now given their support to Dana. Thread opened again.

DCC f*ck off

Dana, as bad as bankers and bailouts are, you as president would be much much worse.

you and your all kinds of everything can f*ck right off.

Flibbles

From what the Fiance tells me, DCC seem to choose the absolute worst possible choice in every single thing they do. Would that be accurate?

muffler

danniemcq wrote: »

DCC f*ck off

Dana, as bad as bankers and bailouts are, you as president would be much much worse.

you and your all kinds of everything can f*ck right off.

Grow up Danny...maybe take the next few days to consider what you have to offer here.

You can put your points across without the profanities

homer simpson

I cannot understand peoples negativity around Dana. She actually is a very very nice woman.

My OH's relative was involved in a fatal car accident, and Dana actually came and sang our lady of knock at his Funeral. She didn't know him personally or any of the family personally.

The reason she done it was because Darren and 2 of his mates went on the All Ireland Talant show, for a laugh and sang our lady of knock in a rap, it was halarious, Dana thought so too (she was one of the judges) it made a lasting impression on her and 3 years later upon hearing of who was involved in the tradgic accident she offered to sing at his funeral, I thought it was very nice of her, a lovely touch and she consoled al the family / friends / relatives too, it wasn't like she sang and ran.

I have heard lots of nice stories about her, honestly cannot understand some peoples negativity

Senna

Im sure she is a very nice woman.........when she not trying to push her right wing religious agenda.

Just when the country seems to be standing up for itself against the church, the last thing we need is Dana as president with her stuance biggoted opposition to abortion, contraception and divorce. If we (the people of ireland) voted in a referemdom to legalise abortion, would Dana pass it into law?????









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oranbhoy67

Senna wrote: »

Im sure she is a very nice woman.........when she not trying to push her right wing religious agenda.

Just when the country seems to be standing up for itself against the church, the last thing we need is Dana as president with her stuance biggoted opposition to abortion, contraception and divorce. If we (the people of ireland) voted in a referemdom to legalise abortion, would Dana pass it into law?????









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Agree with your post in general .. but do you have to be a "religous bigoted right-winger" to oppose abortion?? just asking cos i would consider myself liberal im Catholic but not practising & left-wing.. yet i oppose abortion.

homer simpson

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Agree with your post in general .. but do you have to be a "religous bigoted right-winger" to oppose abortion?? just asking cos i would consider myself liberal im Catholic but not practising & left-wing.. yet i oppose abortion.

Nipping this on the bud before it starts. The topic is "DCC to back Dana" not an abortion discussion, lets stick to that please.

retalivity

she's a bigoted relic from a bygone age...has no place in irish politics.
what dcc are doing nominating her ive no idea.

oh yes....ff'ers & the old vote etc...
she hasnt a chance nationally, hope she gets pummelled and thats the end of her

GetWithIt

Had a good oul lol at this.

Read in one of the local papers recently, Cllr Jimmy Harte (I think) explaining that DCC wouldn't be supporting Senator Norris for the Presidency. No, no, there's no agenda, it's just that we'd have to put a motion to the Council and shure it's too late at this stage.

Dana cruises along and lickity split the nomination process is complete and she's on the ballot.

0lordy

I think it's just democracy at work, you mightn't like it, but then you can blame the people who voted them in...

Firblog

Can't please all of the people all of the time...

Durnish

An interesting side bar, in the new film version of Tinker Tailor (not all it's cracked up to be) I did laugh out loud when Dana singing All Kinds played in the background at some crucial moment in the mole's Lock house.

Durnish

but no, I am not annoyed.

R.D. aka MR.D

i'm extremely annoyed about it to be honest.

As another poster has mentioned what this country does not need is some right-wing catholic misogynist representing us.

muffler

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

i'm extremely annoyed about it to be honest.

As another poster has mentioned what this country does not need is some right-wing catholic misogynist representing us.

Has she had a sex change that we aren't aware of?

irish1967

I think you have all missed the most important point. Her voice is so annoying. If she got elected I could never listen to our president speak. Cringe worthy

alchemist33

I don't see why people are so annoyed. This is the way Presidential nominations work and it's democracy in action. You all now have the opportunity to not vote for her.

(I'll be voting for someone else too)

oranbhoy67

irish1967 wrote: »

I think you have all missed the most important point. Her voice is so annoying. If she got elected I could never listen to our president speak. Cringe worthy

same has to be said about Norris!!!

R.D. aka MR.D

muffler wrote: »

Has she had a sex change that we aren't aware of?

Unfortunately women can be misogynists too. But i know the term is usually used referring to men hating women.
In the broader philosophical sense of the word she is a misogynist.

Firblog

alchemist33 wrote: »

I don't see why people are so annoyed. This is the way Presidential nominations work and it's democracy in action. You all now have the opportunity to not vote for her.

(I'll be voting for someone else too)

Thanks God that we can vote 'for' people, if we were allowed to vote against candidates my 2 votes would be split as I can't decide who I dislike the most from 3 of the shower that's running

killerbeg

I think the Council nomination of Dana is my fault, and people like me. I have never voted in a local election, I just could never take the candidates seriously. As a result the Council is populated by a bunch of wallies who seriously think that little miss 'all kinds of every prejudice' is Presidential material.................shame on me.

danniemcq

Ok so I’m going to be more eloquent in todays post. I don’t believe Dana would make a good spokesperson for Ireland (as lets be honest that’s all the president really is). She is famous for singing a few songs years ago and being on the telly, that’s it. She has no ability in politics as proven over and over again in her recent past.

The below is stats after she got elected to European Parliament after basing her campaign on as at the time there was a lot of discussion on topics like abortion and divorce which in a very different Ireland was quite important.

In 2002, Dana contested a seat in Galway West in the Irish general election, again as an independent. She lost, scoring a mere 3.5% of the first preference vote in a general election where Independent candidates performed well. In June 2004, Dana lost her European Parliament seat, taking 13.5% of the vote. Later that year, she failed to secure a nomination to the office of President of Ireland against the uncontested incumbent.

So people realised that she was terrible and it showed in the votes.

So looking at the stats and history or her she really is a poor choice. She might be a lovely woman and really nice and all that, but so is my ma and she’d make a terrible president.

The issue therefore I have with DCC nominating her over another candidate (Norris for example) shows that DCC is completely out of touch with what the people want. With the way the current election system is set in Ireland it is very very awkward and tough to get your name on the ballot paper. So therefore more thought and planning should go into these kind of decisions. It seems to me that DCC are playing it safe. Norris despite the support he is getting nationwide is still a very controversial choice so they go with Dana.

Until the system is changed in Ireland I think that Councils should put a lot more thought into their decisions. I can see how they can’t have a poll asking who would the people like to vote for as this could be open to abuse but with the system broken as it is something has to be done.

buckfasterer

On a side note.....is there anyone you can contact to get posters taken down? Theres a horrendous one of Michael D at the killross junction as your heading to ballybofey. It's partially covering the reflective barriers so shouldn't be there, not to mention having to look at his face every morning......

muffler

buckfasterer wrote: »

On a side note.....is there anyone you can contact to get posters taken down? Theres a horrendous one of Michael D at the killross junction as your heading to ballybofey. It's partially covering the reflective barriers so shouldn't be there, not to mention having to look at his face every morning......

The Council roads office in Stranorlar - tel: (074) 9131015

Bomany

She hasn't a hope of getting elected. I'm sure she is a nice person on a one to one level, but her "world view" is pretty narrow.

The Assistinator

Personally i dont think the council should have the power to do this its not what they were elected for half the canidates are a joke at this stage :mad:

Firblog

Really don't know why people are so annoyed at the DCC for doing this; sure Dana has her views that people don't like, the same can be said of most of the other candidates too. The only way they could've kept everyone on here happy is if they didn't back anyone. Not exactly being active democrats; exactly the inaction some people on here are now lamenting...

killerbeg

Firblog wrote: »

Really don't know why people are so annoyed at the DCC for doing this; sure Dana has her views that people don't like, the same can be said of most of the other candidates too. The only way they could've kept everyone on here happy is if they didn't back anyone. Not exactly being active democrats; exactly the inaction some people on here are now lamenting...

Don't know that anyone is suggesting they should not have nominated a candidate, I think the concern is that they went out of their way to nominate this particular candidate. A case could be made for any of the main candidates being presidential material, it's hard to make a case for a former winner of the 'Craggy Island Lovely Girls competition'. My point is simple, the coucillors sat down and agreed that Dana, in their opinion, should be President............wtf?

retalivity

ff gombeenism hasnt left the country yet, and judging by this it is rife in donegal;

Firblog

The council had committed to giving the nomination to Sean gallagher earlier in the year, but he rereleased them from that when he got four others; so there were then only two candidates that needed support from the council, Dana and Norris... Now given the choice between the winner of the lovely. Girl contest or some one who tries to get a pae** a lighter scentence I think the council picked the lesser of two evils

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Firblog wrote: »

The council had committed to giving the nomination to Sean gallagher earlier in the year, but he rereleased them from that when he got four others; so there were then only two candidates that needed support from the council, Dana and Norris... Now given the choice between the winner of the lovely. Girl contest or some one who tries to get a pae** a lighter scentence I think the council picked the lesser of two evils

Not sure of that now when she said well more or less that it was better to have children in danger rather than priests breaking the confessional seal

Firblog

Have never heard any reference to her saying that, surely it would have been highlighted prior to her getting nominated.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

On the late late last night she basically said she wouldn't compel Priests to break confession

muffler

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

On the late late last night she basically said she wouldn't compel Priests to break confession

Yup! And got very agitated when the question was put to her by retaliating with "why are you asking me this question instead of all the candidates" or words to that effect.

Firblog

Well she's rightly fecked up whatever small chance she had of getting elected now; however the DCC made their call based on the information that was in the public domain at the time, easy to say they got it wrong if you believe that Norris and his advocating of paedo pederasty would have been the correct choice...

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Firblog wrote: »

Well she's rightly fecked up whatever small chance she had of getting elected now; however the DCC made their call based on the information that was in the public domain at the time, easy to say they got it wrong if you believe that Norris and his advocating of paedo pederasty would have been the correct choice...

I don't believe it has been said that Norris would have the correct choice. Also I don't think what she said should be a big surprise to anyone.

Firblog

Well it was either Dana/Norris or nobody; make your mind up which was best...

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Firblog wrote: »

Well it was either Dana/Norris or nobody; make your mind up which was best...

Oh these difficult questions I will go for nobody

Don't know why your confused mind you

annascott

Is there a problem with the word STATUTORY? There seem to be a lot of people who either fail to recognise or understand it. Norris does not condone paedophilia. The boy in question was three weeks away from being 16 in a country where 16 is the age of consent.

Neady_b

annascott wrote: »

Is there a problem with the word STATUTORY? There seem to be a lot of people who either fail to recognise or understand it. Norris does not condone paedophilia. The boy in question was three weeks away from being 16 in a country where 16 is the age of consent.

So that makes it right does it? Underage is still underage no matter how close they are to being not underage, you seem to fail to recognise or understand what the word underage means :rolleyes:

Flibbles

Neady_b wrote: »

So that makes it right does it? Underage is still underage no matter how close they are to being not underage, you seem to fail to recognise or understand what the word underage means :rolleyes:

Since we all know that 3 weeks is when the kid fully matures!

All the presidential candidates seem to be crap, and I can't vote for them anyway.

retalivity

Ive met Norris quite a few times and he's a well-spoken intelligent man who i'd be happy to see as president. the letters he wrote, is it any different from the ****e many td's do on behalf of their constituents? I know of elected representatives in donegal who have done very similar things because 'they're a good family'. in fact, i would put some of them as worse than trying asking for clemency for narwi.
But he's gay, and protestant, and so knives are out wherever they can get them in. As such, any pertinent questions about ayatollah dana are swept under the carpet as 'ah sure wasnt she one of us back in 97 and <snip>
i'd rather dcc have nominated him over that idiotic battleaxe. But seeing who is on dcc, i cant see im surprised. monkey see, monkey do, monkey nominate

Firblog

retalivity wrote: »

But he's gay, and protestant, and so knives are out wherever they can get them in.

Yes that's it! It's obvious now that you say it, nothing at all to do with his actions...

Firblog

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Don't know why your confused mind you

Not confused lol, was just wondering who you would have preferred they pick

NIMAN

Considering Donegal voted in 2 Sinn Fein TDs in the last election, do you all think its a foregone conclusion that McGuinness will top the poll easily in Donegal?

cosanostra

Fine Gael also have 2 TDs so I really think it comes down to the person and Donegal is very close to MMG's heart maybe Geography will play a more important role than party affiliations here.

Noreen1

cosanostra wrote: »

Fine Gael also have 2 TDs so I really think it comes down to the person and Donegal is very close to MMG's heart maybe Geography will play a more important role than party affiliations here.

I didn't know that. Any idea why?
No idea who I'm going to vote for, btw.