How Does Someone 'Get Into' American Football

curry-muff

Hello everyone, been trying to start following American Football this season, but I'm completely lost at where to start, from watching Soccer I've been raised as a United fan and been watching football since I was a child. I'm not sure how to transfer this interest to a sport that I've only started watching as a 22 year old.

What would be the best way to pick up the interest? I've been watching the Sunday night games on Channel 4 and slowly but surely picking up the rules and which teams are good and which teams aren't.

Should I be reading up on rules/plays to make sure I fully understand the sport or should I simply be watching more and more matches/highlights.

Think of this as sort of a beginners guide to American Football, where did you guys start off (I'm most interested to hear from those who have lived in Ireland all your life and follow a certain NFL team, how you began following them).

Which sites would you recommend for keeping up to date, in Soccer I use the likes of the BBC Sport website and Football365, what would the NFL equivalents be?

Thanks in advance for any advice/opinions you can offer

edit: Ive read Neil3030's beginners guide, I'm just looking to hear more of a first hand experience angle.

John mac

just keep on watching ..
the more you watch the more you will understand..

its a LOT more technical than football.

spiralism

buy, even rent one of the madden games, that helps a big deal imo. Really helps with learning the rules too

mikemac

So most importantly, who do you support?

If you have an xbox or playstation then getting the Madden game is a good way to learn.
I hadn't a clue what I was doing or what first and ten meant when I got it but you'll pick it up and learn more advanced things as you go along

John mac

i started when they had a idiots guide every week on ch4 ..

curry-muff

mikemac wrote: »

So most importantly, who do you support?

If you have an xbox or playstation then getting the Madden game is a good way to learn.
I hadn't a clue what I was doing or what first and ten meant when I got it but you'll pick it up and learn more advanced things as you go along

Haven't really decided who to support yet, sort of want to make a more informed decision before choosing, and still not sure how Im going to pick from the huge pool of teams :pac:

Yeah, I've been intending to pick up Madden the last few years but never bothered, may give it a go this year

spiralism

curry-muff wrote: »

Haven't really decided who to support yet, sort of want to make a more informed decision before choosing, and still not sure how Im going to pick from the huge pool of teams :pac:

Yeah, I've been intending to pick up Madden the last few years but never bothered, may give it a go this year

do, its probably the best of the big sports games

johnmcdnl

pick a team - how you decide is up to you..

(try not to pick a team that's looking absoutetly crap just so you won't loose interest when you team keeps loosing)


then buy a copy of Madden if you have a console and start playing away and you'll get to know the general rules and that..

watch the games on Channel 4 at night if you don't have sky because they give really good analysis so you start to know what to watch out for..

stick it out...

start fantasy football on nfl.com - even though it's a bit late and you mightn't know any players it's still good so you start following other players from other teams- (fantasy tip - Running Backs are key to having a good season)


once you have a team to follow and you have a general idea how the game works and you want to watch it you'll be loving it by the end of this season...

just stick it out for the first couple weeks when you don't have a notion at all what's going on - you'll be loving it soon enough

mikemac

Do you have any preferences about teams?
Old history? Sleeping giant fallen on hard times? Flashy offence? Brutal [in a good way] defence?

We'll get you some recommendations

curry-muff

mikemac wrote: »

Do you have any preferences about teams?
Old history? Sleeping giant fallen on hard times? Flashy offence? Brutal [in a good way] defence?

We'll get you some recommendations

I'd have to go for the flashy offense Id say, I like strong attacking teams/mentality in all the other sports I watch, not too fussed on history but I'd like to support a team that looks like it will sustain a challenge for a few years (I know that might be hard to predict).

Chucky the tree

United fans and bandwagons go hand in hand so New England Patriots are the team for you.

spiralism

Chucky the tree wrote: »

United fans and bandwagons go hand in hand so New England Patriots are the team for you.

no need for that. also, i'm a utd fan and i support the broncos, hardly bandwagoning

seriously though, be a bit original, there's too many who follow the sport over here that are pats fans tbh, and that's not a knock on the pats lads here

curry-muff

Chucky the tree wrote: »

United fans and bandwagons go hand in hand so New England Patriots are the team for you.

Was there any need for the snide remark?

spiralism

for what it's worth OP:

teams with flashy offences:
new england patriots
san diego chargers
indianapolis colts (not this year though obviously)
green bay packers
new orleans saints
philadelphia eagles
atlanta falcons
houston texans
detroit lions
oakland raiders

teams that are currently in a strongly competitive position(i.e have won superbowls recently and could do so again, or in a very strong position to win one):
patriots
packers
saints
pittsburgh steelers
eagles

teams that have the potential to seriously compete over the coming years(could possibly do it, definitely not a given though):
falcons
lions
texans
colts (when manning returns)
chargers

Chucky the tree

I'd call the remark accurate instead of snide personnally.

spiralism

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I'd call the remark accurate instead of snide personnally.

once again, completely unnecessary, you could well get infracted for that over on the soccer forum so no need to bring it here, the op's only asking for some advice because he's new to the game, not for smartarse remarks about supporting united.

Chucky the tree

Thankfully this isn't the soccer forum though, I regret saying it now obviously as I didn't realise United fans where touchy and didn't expect you guys to cry this move over it. As for advice OP and getting back on topic I think the patriots would be a good team for you to support.

curry-muff

spiralism wrote: »

for what it's worth OP:

teams with flashy offences:
new england patriots
san diego chargers
indianapolis colts (not this year though obviously)
green bay packers
new orleans saints
philadelphia eagles
atlanta falcons
houston texans
detroit lions
oakland raiders

teams that are currently in a strongly competitive position(i.e have won superbowls recently and could do so again, or in a very strong position to win one):
patriots
packers
saints
pittsburgh steelers
eagles

teams that have the potential to seriously compete over the coming years(could possibly do it, definitely not a given though):
falcons
lions
texans
colts (when manning returns)
chargers

Thanks

Also been a bit excited by Cam Newton in the few games I've seen of his (Despite losing the first two), he looks like one for the future.

And despite the backhandedness of Chuckys comment I have heard a lot of great things about Brady, though I would prefer not to be called a bandwagon fan so I don't think I'd end up supporting the Pats.

The Manning brothers have been the highlights of the Superbowls Ive watched in the past so even if I don't end up supporting the Colts Im pretty sure I'll follow them with a keen eye.

spiralism

curry-muff wrote: »

Thanks

Also been a bit excited by Cam Newton in the few games Ive seen of his (Despite losing the first two), he looks like one for the future.

And despite the backhandedness of Chuckys comment I have heard a lot of great things about Brady, though I would prefer not to be called a bandwagon fan so I don't think Id end up supporting the Pats.

The Manning brothers have been the highlights of the Superbowls Ive watched in the past so even if I don't end up supporting the Colts Im pretty sure I'll follow them with a keen eye.

you're in for a rough year if you do lol, least nobody will land the bandwagon accusation on ya... just watch a load of different teams and see who ya like, the team chooses you more than anything

mikemac

Nonsense

You need to support the Baltimore Ravens

Not known for flashy offence but the defence is pretty flashy, leading the league in scoring

spiralism

anyways...time to make the case for my own lot:
go on, support the broncos. proud history, great fans and a tradition of attacking football. things arent too good right now but will be again soon, things change quickly in this league. also, look up tim tebow on youtube, he's our QB of the future

disclaimer: side effects of supporting this team include extreme cynicism and clinical depression

curry-muff

mikemac wrote: »

Nonsense

You need to support the Baltimore Ravens

Not known for flashy offence but the defence is pretty flashy, leading the league in scoring

Ray Lewis looks like quite the badass in that video :pac: I do like teams that play with agression and speed so they mightn't be a bad shout

This whole picking a side to follow is going to be harder than I thought :P

Jesus Wept

I watch the superbowl each year but I still don't understand the rulez.
Tried reading them on wiki but it still left me flummoxed.

Go Stealers.

Le King

Chucky the tree wrote: »

United fans and bandwagons go hand in hand so New England Patriots are the team for you.

I agree with the second part but for the first bit you can go elsewhere!

If you want to take the easy route pick the Patriots. Lots of Irish people support them because of the national tendency to bandwagon. It's shameful really.

Don't pick them. We have too many all ready. Go sign up to a few forums and find out who you like.

Eire-Dearg

Titans, obviously.

tallaghtoutlaws

Le King wrote: »

I agree with the second part but for the first bit you can go elsewhere!

If you want to take the easy route pick the Patriots. Lots of Irish people support them because of the national tendency to bandwagon. It's shameful really.

Don't pick them. We have too many all ready. Go sign up to a few forums and find out who you like.

See this bashing the bandwagon for the Pats annoys me some what. And it doesn't surprise me that a certain member brought it up again, it would be the first or second or third time. Not all of us are guys who started following in recent successful years. Fair few on here who starting liking them back when they were ****.

But I will give you how much of a bullsh1t idea people have when it comes to how many Pats fans are here. The team I coach has 27 players right now. Out of which only 4 of us are Pats fans. 2 of those are two young to remember the anything before 2001. When people latch on to new sports they tend to find a team they like. If it just happens to be the most successful at the time what is wrong with that? Its how they then follow the team after which defines them as fans.

But the amount of Steelers fans, Colts fans, Saints fans, Packers fans, Giants fans that have popped up in recent years is huge also. And why is that? Oh right that bandwagon you speak of. Raiders had plenty of bandwagoners back in the day as did the Bears and 49ers. In fact what team hasn't that won a Soup Bowl.

Now there is many folk out there I myself would rather not be Pats fans as they are nothing more than blow ins who generally dont know anything about the team but they are minority and they are the type of fan you encounter in every sport. They are fans when it suits them.

curry-muff

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Now there is many folk out there I myself would rather not be Pats fans as they are nothing more than blow ins who generally dont know anything about the team but they are minority and they are the type of fan you encounter in every sport. They are fans when it suits them.

That's exactly why I don't intend on rushing into making a decision, whoever I decide to follow I'm hoping that I'll be with them for good.

I'm struggling with the fact I'd like to support a team with a flashy offense as that could all change with the introduction of a new head coach, are there any teams that would be known historically for their attacking style?

mikemac

Buffalo have a history of flashy offence back in their best days over a decade ago.
Those days are coming back, racking up the scores. Well they haven't reached the play-offs in a long time but things are looking up

Nobody would accuse you of being on a bandwagon, we'd say you were joining a sleeping giant

Not that it matters but their jersey is extremly stylish too

Chucky the tree

Seems all the pats fans in Ireland are also all members of boards.ie aswell then TO. :pac:

AFC - EAST

Buffalo Bills
themont85

Miami Dolphins
Icepickle, Miami 365, raddo, Benimar, sammo13

New England Patriots
tallaghtoutlaws, Hazys, Utd4Ever, Mr. Guappa, eagle eye, Reacher Creature, Pat the Patriot, f1dan, de5pOi1er, bruschi, Toulousain, Archimedes, Iang87, Benedict XVI, Fox1978, mars_bar, baz2009, Whippersnapper, me89, kryogen, copper23, danieljm, PatrickL, plonk, brav, unknown13

New York Jets
SeekUp, LuckyLloyd, Zaph, Running Bing, Shoveller, candlegirl, Kimano-girl, freeoscar, JohnnyRyan99,Mr. Presentable

AFC - NORTH

Cleveland Browns
bacon bites, Silver-Tiger, revz

Cincinnatti Bengals
deisedude

Pittsburgh Steelers
The Munky, The Sparrow, mdwexford, figs86, steelcityblues, cactus mac88, tang1

Baltimore Ravens
mikemac, Stab City, columok, Ravage 1616, feelingstressed

AFC - SOUTH

Indianapolis Colts
Chanandler Bong, Dr. Slurm, davyjose, brennaldo, Jopari87, MickShamrock, McG, ak27

Tennessee Titans
Dohnny Jepp, Eire-Dearg

Houston Texans


Jacksonville Jaguars
Kev_s88, GBX, Liam O, Mickeyt086, metaoblivia, menu14

AFC - WEST

San Diego Chargers
Leslie 91, donmeister, RuggieBear, Clawfield, Pauleta, BrenoBolt91, landsleaving, Firehen

Denver Broncos
UhOh, yerayeah, poldebruin, Tribesmen7, spiralism,

Oakland Raiders
Max Power1, heyjude, Prefabsprouter, Titan#1, Frisbee, Chucky the Tree, TheHeadhunter, randomchild, rhonin, ankles

Kansas City Chiefs
Xavi6

NFC - EAST

New York Giants
Hynzie, boccy23, KrustyUCC, JJ, Third Echelon, golfnuts, Keno 92, ari gold24

Dallas Cowboys
Het-Field, Lirange, The Cool One, Neilster, smck99

Philadelphia Eagles
yupyup7up, titan18, Its so Easy, bobo the clown, pyjamarama, dardelve, D3PO, Kaisergunnar, Jimmy Iovine, bamboozling, johnmcdnl

Washington Redskins
Cruiserweight, UALacrosse, djimi

NFC - NORTH

Green Bay Packers
Paddy C, skeleton_boy, Pherekydes, Conor74, spank inferno, cooker3, me-skywalker, christopher, cheesehead, WakeyTyke, COSATRON

Detroit Lions
faulk28, MC_G, Raoul, Lionbacker

Minnesota Vikings
Vikings, Hulk Hands

Chicago Bears
Bobby Wade, Oatesy23, Spongey 1975, Jimdagym, dl, purcela, davetherave

NFC - SOUTH

Atlanta Falcons
Ryaner

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
johnnycnandy , Naos, DDC1990, Wompa1, jester1980

New Orleans Saints
Dodge, kevin11, jamsieboy86, Nemanja91

Carolina Panthers
malachyscott

NFC - WEST

Seattle Seahawks
Royal Seahawk, Neil 3030, cambridge7, giddyup, NTMK

San Francisco 49ers
Sea Devils, Lothaar, supremenovice, Codofwar, VinylJunkie, 49ers fan, BastardPrince

Arizona Cardinals
dougal, ondarack, frankmagnet, thebiggestjim, Adam

St. Louis Rams
Karluss

Eire-Dearg

Houston Texans have no fans. Pick them! Wouldn't be a bad choice IMO.

FreeOSCAR

Ignore all the bandwagon malarky. I think pick whoever you want really but make sure to stick with them regardless of whether they have a winning or losing record each season.

Personally I started supporting the JETS because I saw them in the AFC Championship game 2 years ago against the Colts. Along with the affection I have with NYC it was an easy choice from then. I then done research on the franchise and saw some things I really liked. They were then the featured team on Hard Knocks in 2010 season which gave me exposure to the whole team.
Since then I count myself as a proper fan, not only of the JETS but also the sport.
Thats the beauty of this game though, whichever Franchise you choose to follow none of them are really a bad choice due to the yoyo nature of this league. ( Except maybe the Bengals :P )

spiralism

the only teams i'd warn you not to support are the browns and bengals due to a storied history of ineptitude and bad management from the top down, they will drive you mad.

oakland, buffalo and detroit are ones to be careful about too, though they look good now, they have had serious issues for at least the past decade(five in detroits case) from the front office down to management and are only coming out of it now.

mikemac

Browns have a long and rich history though
And maybe the greatest player imo in Jim Brown

I just love the idea of picking a sleeping giant if such a thing exists in the NFL
But that's just me


If you pick the Bengals, well I'll be seeing you over in Personal Issues forum for stress and frustration

Leslie91

I'll give you one not to pick. The Bengals, v poorly run organisation. Until a new owner takes over they will forever be at best average.

Now you have 31 to choose from!.

If you like Offense (and you don't want to pick the Pats, good decision btw) and generally avoid the bandwagon, then how about one of these teams;

Buffalo (young team on the up)
Houston (have some really good players now, not sure about the HC)
Detroit (another strong team on the up after years of futility)
San Diego (best O in the league on paper, will frustrate the hell out of you)
Atlanta (good roster)
St Louis (v good young QB, good defensively minded HC)

Let us know who you select.

Peyton Manning

If I was to pick a new team to support, it'd be the Rams. Seriously, one more solid draft and a bit of luck with injuries to his supporting cast, and Sam Bradford is going to dominate the NFL for years. They'll win a Superbowl within the next 3-4 years imo.

Dohnny Jepp

Buy Madden, play it, have fun and you'll learn bits and pieces about the game. Find a team you enjoy playing on madden and they could be your team.

Just watch games on sunday, or highlights on nfl.com.

I wouldnt reccomend reading up on all the intricities you'll just bog yourself down and lose interest.

Just keep watching it and you'll learn everythin you need to know.

tallaghtoutlaws

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

But the amount of Steelers fans, Colts fans, Saints fans, Packers fans, Giants fans that have popped up in recent years is huge also.

I think in fairness some of those teams (maybe not the Saints) were selling out stadia decades before the Patriots were founded, and are seen as amongst the traditional powerhouses of football. Much and as I may not like them, I'd add the Bears too.

In addition, 4 out of 27 is statistically high, no?

You don't have to explain why you like the Pats. You do. I like Cork City, founded in 1984, in "soccer". I don't have to justify that or say they are comparable with Bohs or Shamrock Rovers. Just not sure comparing the Pats to the Colts or Packers really is like with like.

riffmongous

I've been following the Ravens for years, just checking scores and such every few weeks, but this year I've decided to become a proper fan

I know you mentioned flashy offence but one of the great things about American Football compared to other sports is that you can have flashy defence too, intercept TDs are one of the most exciting things in the game and is there a finer sight than a perfectly executed blitz?
So I'd say go with the Ravens

tallaghtoutlaws

Deleted User wrote: »

I think in fairness some of those teams (maybe not the Saints) were selling out stadia decades before the Patriots were founded, and are seen as amongst the traditional powerhouses of football. Much and as I may not like them, I'd add the Bears too.

I was talking about in recent years though. You take new fans these days especially in the last 10 years who wouldn't have known the history of the NFL or who were powerhouses. They are generally going to pick the Big guy who are the powerhouses now or the underdog type guy.

As for teams in the days gone by a lot of non Americans would have also jumped on the bandwagon of succesfull teams as they do today. Not there is anything wrong with it in my eyes. To each their own.

In addition, 4 out of 27 is statistically high, no?

No idea what you are asking here

You don't have to explain why you like the Pats. You do.

See this is the problem these days. As a Pats fan we are forever called bandwagon fans and you always end up having to explain why we follow them or justify. We shouldn't have to but it is what it is. Some folk just don't get it or are just plain assholes who can't accept it.

I like Cork City, founded in 1984, in "soccer". I don't have to justify that or say they are comparable with Bohs or Shamrock Rovers. Just not sure comparing the Pats to the Colts or Packers really is like with like.

You missed my point. Teams that win things get new support jumping on the bandwagon. And these teams have won Super Bowls in the last decade. Its not like im comparing Packers fans or Colts fans in the US as the high majority are from the same state. This bandwagon thing rears its head more so on foreign shores where the game/league is not native so its easy to compare the trends of foreign support on the back of success.

D3PO

Deleted User wrote: »

In addition, 4 out of 27 is statistically high, no?

.

Its above the mean but 4 isnt what you call high. If you consider some of the main factors around why somebody with no affiliation might support a team its actually surprisingly low Id say.

New England is in Boston. Boston would be a pretty popular destination in America for Irish people with a strong Irish identity. You would automatically expect therefore that that would positively influence the number of Patriots fans you would expect to have from Ireland.

Yes having a flashy offense and winning a few superbowls in recent memory will help probably gravitate some fans, but I think you will find most people dont pick an NFL team as a bandwagoner. This isnt soccer the draft and wage caps mean that every team has an opportunity of being a success.

The fact that 29 of the 32 teams have made the playoffs in the last 9 years proves the point. (Only Detroit, Buffalo & Houston havent) and all 3 have a good shot of making the playoffs this year.

D3PO

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I was talking about in recent years though. You take new fans these days especially in the last 10 years who wouldn't have known the history of the NFL or who were powerhouses. .

Exactly thats human nature. Hense why there are so many Bears, Dolphins, Broncos and 49'ers fans who started to follow the game in the 80's

Derfil

Just enjoy the sport. You don't have to limit yourself to one team. Historically I've always enjoyed watching the Patriots, Giants, Steelers, Packers and Jets. Nowadays I've added the Falcons to my list with Matt Ryan being from Boston and his Irish connections.

D3PO

Derfil wrote: »

Just enjoy the sport. You don't have to limit yourself to one team. Historically I've always enjoyed watching the Patriots, Giants, Steelers, Packers and Jets. Nowadays I've added the Falcons to my list with Matt Ryan being from Boston and his Irish connections.

Exactly. Im an eagles fan but enjoy watching the Falcons, Ravens and Texans. Once they arent playing against or in a game that has Eagles implications

tallaghtoutlaws

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I was talking about in recent years though. You take new fans these days especially in the last 10 years who wouldn't have known the history of the NFL or who were powerhouses. They are generally going to pick the Big guy who are the powerhouses now or the underdog type guy.

Oh I agree.

I was landed with the Packers myself in the mid 80s, because my Godmother is from Green Bay and her family are residents who are just nuts about the Pack for decades.

When I was young, I wished she lived in Miami, Chicago or even Boston, particularly the season the latter 2 met in the Superbowl!

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

No idea what you are asking here

Sorry, the 4 out of 27 players you coach.

In fairness D3PO did point out some other good reasons why the Pats should have statistically higher support in Ireland.

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

See this is the problem these days. As a Pats fan we are forever called bandwagon fans and you always end up having to explain why we follow them or justify. We shouldn't have to but it is what it is. Some folk just don't get it or are just plain assholes who can't accept it.

Ah yeah. But you'll get that. Sure most people assume I started following the Packers either in 1996 or just a few months back! Hence I have to keep on explaining myself...just like I did above!

me-skywalker

curry-muff wrote: »

I'd have to go for the flashy offense Id say, I like strong attacking teams/mentality in all the other sports I watch, not too fussed on history but I'd like to support a team that looks like it will sustain a challenge for a few years (I know that might be hard to predict).

You dont just pick a team... it picks you... you want a team with histoty, you want a team that you wont be called a bandwagoner, a team that will challenge in a few years, thats young, entertaining and got great potential, your a United fan, yes, want to allow for some connection, go with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Plus got a great logo to stick on your wall!

Hazys

All this bandwagon BS is quite retarded to me.


Unless you grew up in a city that has a football team, you can be called a band wagon fan.

If you pick the Pats/Steelers/Ravens/Packers/etc, because they are good or have a great history, you're a bandwagon fan.

If you pick the Rams/Lions/Bills/etc, you're essentially picking them so you can get in there just before they actually become good, so no way you could be called a bandwagon fan, i'm still going to call you a badwagon fan

If you pick the Bengals, you are going so far out of your way to not being called a bandwagon fan, its sad.

If you pick the Jets, you're an a$$hole :P


OP, at the end of the day pick a team that you like the most whether thats because they have your favourite player, you like the jersey, you visited their city before, whatever.

Dont worry about the whingers.

Hazys

Hazys wrote: »

All this bandwagon BS is quite retarded to me.

Unless you grew up in a city that has a football team, you can be called a band wagon fan.

So you're saying that the bandwagon accusations are stupid...because everyone jumps on a bandwagon?

If that is your point, it's fair enough. Not sure I would agree. If you follow a team because, say, the Colts were on the first game you ever saw, or you have relations in New York who love the Giants, or you lived a student in Dallas, that's not bandwagon jumping, which really means following a team for success.

But I do agree that most teams have a large number of bandwagon fans, and all that changes is the age profile depending on when they were successful.

Hazys

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're saying that the bandwagon accusations are stupid...because everyone jumps on a bandwagon?

If that is your point, it's fair enough. Not sure I would agree. If you follow a team because, say, the Colts were on the first game you ever saw, or you have relations in New York who love the Giants, or you lived a student in Dallas, that's not bandwagon jumping, which really means following a team for success.

But I do agree that most teams have a large number of bandwagon fans, and all that changes is the age profile depending on when they were successful.

My point was that anybody can accuse you of being a bandwagon supporter, so dont worry about it. Just pick your team for whatever reason and stick with them.

The reason i'm a Pats fan is because the first superbowl i was allowed to stay up and watch was the Pats Rams in 2002. I went for the underdogs in that game and what i saw was the one of the greatest games in any sport i had ever seen and that Tom Brady chap was a legend.

I'm sure somebody will call me a bandwagon fan for picking my team based on who was in the Superbowl that year but f'em i was 15 at the time and i was blown away by that game.

I live in Boston now and go to two games a year. I fractured my hand in fustration while watching the Pats lose to the Jets last season. I went to my room and sulked for the day after the game yesterday and didnt bother to watch or pay attention to any other games. Teams grow on you and I'm a fan for life.

me-skywalker

Hazys wrote: »

fractured my hand in fustration...

Is that a medical phenomenon? Did this affliction strike you last night again?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Before I even started watching AF I picked the Patriots. Pretty much because I was in Boston and saw the Celtic and Bruins play in basketball and hockey. Began supporting those two so I said I might as well stick with teams from that area. Didn't have a clue if they were any good at the time.

Since I started watching it more and more I've gotten a soft spot for the Rams, dunno why really, and the Panthers 'cause of Cam Newton this season.:P

Hazys

me-skywalker wrote: »

Is that a medical phenomenon? Did this affliction strike you last night again?

Ha, I hate the Jets so much my hand just exploded.

Nah i smacked my hand off my knee at a really bad angle and fractured a bone in my palm. I think it was on the fake punt mishap...i still blame the Jets, i'm gona sue those assholes