Irish Delegates walk out of Ahmadinejad UN Speech

irishconvert

http://www.thejournal.ie/us-france-walk-out-as-iran-delivers-un-speech-234000-Sep2011/

DELEGATES FROM THE US and Ireland walked out of the UN General Assembly today as Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad delivered a speech.

Ok, what did he say that was so bad? What in that speech (transcript link below) is so wrong? Do we always have to be the US lapdog?

http://publicintelligence.net/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-speech-to-un-general-assembly-transcript-september-22-2011/

RandomName2

irishconvert wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/us-france-walk-out-as-iran-delivers-un-speech-234000-Sep2011/



Ok, what did he say that was so bad? What in that speech (transcript link below) is so wrong? Do we always have to be the US lapdog?

http://publicintelligence.net/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-speech-to-un-general-assembly-transcript-september-22-2011/

Well he's wrong and rambling. Could understand US delegates walking out (as it would have been personally insulting). Perhaps the Irish delegates just got fed up of the tirade?

Jonny7

Excerpt :

Who abducted forcefully tens of millions of people from their homes in Africa and other regions of the world during the dark period of slavery , making them a victim of their materialistic greed.

Who imposed colonialism for over four centuries upon this world. Who occupied lands and massively plundered resources of other nations, destroyed talents, and alienated languages, cultures and identities of nations?

Who triggered the first and second world wars, that left seventy millions killedand hundreds of millions injured or homeless. Who created the wars in Korean peninsula and in Vietnam?

Who imposed, through deceits and hypocrisy, the Zionism and over sixty years of war, homelessness, terror and mass murder on the Palestinian people and on countries of the region?

Who imposed and supported for decades military dictatorship and totalitarian regimes on Asian, African, and Latin American nations.

Who used nuclear bomb against defenseless people, and stockpiled thousands of warheads in their arsenals?

Whose economies rely on waging wars and selling arms?

Who provoked and encouraged Saddam Hussein to invade and impose an eight-year war on Iran, and who assisted and equipped him to deploy chemical weapons against our cities and our people.

Who used the mysterious September 11 incident as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq, killing, injuring, and displacing millions in two countries with the ultimate goal of bringing into its domination the Middle East and its oil resources?

I could have sworn Germany might have had something to do with both World wars but obviously I must be mistaken.

mike65

It was the usual anti-west anti Jew rant from a nut. Ahmadinejad never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity to present a more constructive and friendly face to the world at large.

naldface

Jonny7 wrote: »

Excerpt :



I could have sworn Germany might have had something to do with both World wars but obviously I must be mistaken.

You could have, but you didn't. Therefore, guess again

Zombrex

irishconvert wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/us-france-walk-out-as-iran-delivers-un-speech-234000-Sep2011/



Ok, what did he say that was so bad? What in that speech (transcript link below) is so wrong? Do we always have to be the US lapdog?

http://publicintelligence.net/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-speech-to-un-general-assembly-transcript-september-22-2011/

The figure head of a brutal repressive Islamic regime does not lecture the west on what it is doing wrong. The worst days of the financial crisis would have seemed like a beautiful day to an Iranian.

The Waltzing Consumer

irishconvert wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/us-france-walk-out-as-iran-delivers-un-speech-234000-Sep2011/



Ok, what did he say that was so bad? What in that speech (transcript link below) is so wrong? Do we always have to be the US lapdog?

http://publicintelligence.net/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-speech-to-un-general-assembly-transcript-september-22-2011/

It is unnerving when a moderator defends a speech which contains factual inaccuracies, conspiracy theories and plain, hatred.

Do boards not have any set standards when it comes to picking mods?

Your forum must be a place of enlightenment with you modding it. :rolleyes:

digme

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

It is unnerving when a moderator defends a speech which contains factual inaccuracies, conspiracy theories and plain, hatred.

Do boards not have any set standards when it comes to picking mods?

Your forum must be a place of enlightenment with you modding it. :rolleyes:

what did he say that was inaccurate?

Benny_Cake

I wonder which group of evil geniuses were behind this list of atrocities.He asked the questions but left us hanging!

mike65

Benny_Cake wrote: »

I wonder which group of evil geniuses were behind this list of atrocities.He asked the questions but left us hanging!

There's the set up to an Iranian themed punch line if I ever saw one!

digme

digme wrote: »

what did he say that was inaccurate?

Starting two world wars?

America was into isolationalism at the time.

irishh_bob

mike65 wrote: »

It was the usual anti-west anti Jew rant from a nut. Ahmadinejad never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity to present a more constructive and friendly face to the world at large.

ahmadinejad is a tedious ranter but i dont see why he was anymore entitled to a mass walkout than the barefaced liar that is benjamin neyenathou

The Waltzing Consumer

digme wrote: »

what did he say that was inaccurate?

The two world wars caused by the US? Nuclear bomb against defenseless people? His conspiracy notions about 9/11. He said European countries were paying a fine or ransom to the Zionists because of the Holocaust. He said NATO sanctioned drug trafficking. He said the US and allies threaten Iran because they question the holocaust.

:pac: yeah, it is really accurate.

irishconvert

irishconvert wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/us-france-walk-out-as-iran-delivers-un-speech-234000-Sep2011/



Ok, what did he say that was so bad? What in that speech (transcript link below) is so wrong? Do we always have to be the US lapdog?

http://publicintelligence.net/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-speech-to-un-general-assembly-transcript-september-22-2011/

You know when you are down in the pub and some aul lad that has had to much to drink starts ranting and you know he is talking absolute muck. It can cause you to leave instead of listen to such drivel. In the case od the irianian president, it's too much conspiracy theories he's had instead of drink.

leonidas83

its a thundering disgrace, could understand the american delegates walking out but the irish ones had no business doing so. Our representatives have become very good at brownosing in recent times and this is no exception.

Alot of what he says is historically inaccurate but he does make alot of valid points especially concerning weapons of mass destruction, nuclear or otherwise and america's hypocrisy surrounding these issues.

The irish delegates are nothing short of an embarrasment

Augmerson

Deleted User wrote: »

You know when you are down in the pub and some aul lad that has had to much to drink starts ranting and you know he is talking absolute muck. It can cause you to leave instead of listen to such drivel. In the case od the irianian president, it's too much conspiracy theories he's had instead of drink.

The mental image of Ahmadinejad sitting in the corner, absolutely locked on Gin and ranting away in the corner of your local while everyone pretends not to notice or care...priceless.

Dirk Gently

All this walking out of speeches at the U.N. is very childish and tedious. I'm disappointed with the Irish delegation for walking out on frankly anyone speaking at the U.N. If people walked out every time someone made a loaded speech then the permanent security council members would be orating to an empty room most of the time.

dlofnep

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

The two world wars caused by the US? Nuclear bomb against defenseless people? His conspiracy notions about 9/11. He said European countries were paying a fine or ransom to the Zionists because of the Holocaust. He said NATO sanctioned drug trafficking. He said the US and allies threaten Iran because they question the holocaust.

:pac: yeah, it is really accurate.

Did we read the same transcript? I just read it, and not once did I see him state that 2 world wars were caused by America. He was asking a question 'Who?' and not stating who. By reading it, I gathered that he was trying to highlight that all of these injustices were done in the absence of Iran. Basically - I think he's trying to highlight that Iran is unfairly criticised, when all of these other acts get a free pass.

He's right that the US used 9/11 as an opportunity to invade Iraq. That is not even up for dispute. He made some good points, right up until he went into conspiracy mode about who caused 9/11. We know very well it was Saudi Hijackers.

Now unless I've missed something - Could you point me out where he said that the US started 2 world wars? Also the ransom thing about Zionists, I couldn't find that either in the transcript.

digme

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

The two world wars caused by the US? Nuclear bomb against defenseless people? His conspiracy notions about 9/11. He said European countries were paying a fine or ransom to the Zionists because of the Holocaust. He said NATO sanctioned drug trafficking. He said the US and allies threaten Iran because they question the holocaust.

:pac: yeah, it is really accurate.

england and france "triggered" the second world war.
as for 9/11 , i don't believe the official story at all anyone with a bit of intelligence wouldn't either.

well the germans are giving Israelis massive amounts of money. the cia traffics drugs, so why not nato? questioning the jewish holocaust shouldn't be a crime. i support freedom of speech.

dlofnep

dlofnep wrote: »

Did we read the same transcript? I just read it, and not once did I see him state that 2 world wars were caused by America. He was asking a question 'Who?' and not stating who. By reading it, I gathered that he was trying to highlight that all of these injustices were done in the absence of Iran. Basically - I think he's trying to highlight that Iran is unfairly criticised, when all of these other acts get a free pass.

He's right that the US used 9/11 as an opportunity to invade Iraq. That is not even up for dispute. He made some good points, right up until he went into conspiracy mode about who caused 9/11. We know very well it was Saudi Hijackers.

Now unless I've missed something - Could you point me out where he said that the US started 2 world wars? Also the ransom thing about Zionists, I couldn't find that either in the transcript.

Every other one of his points referred to the USA.

The Waltzing Consumer

leonidas83 wrote: »

its a thundering disgrace, could understand the american delegates walking out but the irish ones had no business doing so. Our representatives have become very good at brownosing in recent times and this is no exception.

Alot of what he says is historically inaccurate but he does make alot of valid points especially concerning weapons of mass destruction, nuclear or otherwise and america's hypocrisy surrounding these issues.

The irish delegates are nothing short of an embarrasment

There needs to be a standard. The man could be blasting on about how Ireland had been full of leprechauns, then those Jewish English Americans came over with rock music and weapons of mass destruction, the native leprechauns were forced to flee into cereal boxes and hollywood films and now how all this was a clever ploy for Zionist imperialism.

Why the hell would someone sit through boring fantasy speeches? It would be more useful and accurate for the UN to be hanging out in the Games Workshop or on the world of warcraft with a bunch of nerds listening to them, then listening to this Iranian nutjob.

digme

digme wrote: »

england and france "triggered" the second world war.
as for 9/11 , i don't believe the official story at all anyone with a bit of intelligence wouldn't either.well the germans are giving Israelis massive amounts of money. the cia traffics drugs, so why not nato? questioning the jewish holocaust shouldn't be a crime. i support freedom of speech.

Are you serious? I feel sorry for you.:(

Jonny7

digme wrote: »

england and france "triggered" the second world war.

This is the second time you've made that claim on this forum..

Can you back it up?

The Waltzing Consumer

digme wrote: »

england and france "triggered" the second world war.
as for 9/11 , i don't believe the official story at all anyone with a bit of intelligence wouldn't either.

well the germans are giving Israelis massive amounts of money. the cia traffics drugs, so why not nato? questioning the jewish holocaust shouldn't be a crime. i support freedom of speech.

right...I mourn when threads in the politics forums delve this low. The fact that England and France are being blamed for triggering the second world war, followed by 9/11 conspiracy rant.

Can we move this thread to the conspiracy section of the site?

digme

Jonny7 wrote: »

This is the second time you've made that claim on this forum..

Can you back it up?

1939: Britain and France declare war on Germany

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/3/newsid_3493000/3493279.stm

digme

digme wrote: »

1939: Britain and France declare war on Germany

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/3/newsid_3493000/3493279.stm

So it's fine to annex countries?

The Waltzing Consumer

This thread has officially been taken over by the Jim Corr society

mike65

Here we go! In digmes world Germany invades Poland everyone stands by despite a mutual assistance pact

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_of_Mutual_Assistance_between_the_United_Kingdom_and_Poland-London_(1939)

Mahatma coat

The USSR Invaded Poland too,yet they became Allies of Britain

Churchil was a Warmonger, The Fuhrer's Germany didnt want a War until at least the mid Forties. Churchill started the War for his own egotistical ends.

What else do people consider Untrue in Ahmidinijads Statement???

Mahatma coat

Mahatma coat wrote: »

The USSR Invaded Poland too,yet they became Allies of Britain

Churchil was a Warmonger, The Fuhrer's Germany didnt want a War until at least the mid Forties. Churchill started the War for his own egotistical ends.

What else do people consider Untrue in Ahmidinijads Statement???

Churchill wasn't prime minister until 1940. Do people seriously not know this?


He said "Last year, when the need to form a fact-finding team to undertake a thorough investigation concerning the hidden elements involved in September 11 incident was brought up; an idea also endorsed by all independent governments and nations as well as by the majority in the United States, my country and myself came under pressure and threat by the government of the United States.

Instead of assigning a fact-finding team, they killed the main perpetrator and threw his body into the sea."

wes

No fan of Ahmadinejad, but I fail to see how anything he said was any worse than the garbage spewed by Obama and Netanyahu. If Irish delegates are going to walk out, then I would expect them to do so, when other people engage in similar crap, like Obama and Netanyahu did. Right now, the whole thing looks childish and reenforces Iran's image that it is unfairly singled out (which they are to a certain degree, considering the West ignore Israels nuclear program for example), when other people don't receive the same treatment for similar speeches that are full of crap.