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SWTOR Launch Date Confirmed!

  • 24-09-2011 12:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭


    http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20110924

    Ive got exams around that time, we have a 2 week exam period and i have 4 exams hopefully my exams will be finished in the first few days :cool:

    Prices are:

    1 Month Subscription: $14.99 (£8.99/€12.99)
    3 Month Subscription: $13.99 per month (one-time charge of $41.97/£25.17/€35.97)
    6 Month Subscription: $12.99 per month (one-time charge of $77.94/£46.14/€65.94)

    Looks good to me :), 22nd December, when do you think early access will start!??


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Early access is usually around 1 week before release, sometimes 2 depending on the game.

    Dating is kinda odd but makes sense, people will be off so can sit around playing over Xmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Guess I'll be booking more time off around Christmas/Jan then :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ZeitgeistGlee


    Finish in college in mid-December and off until late January so I'll have plenty of time to play the game.

    Sticking to my standard, "buy subs in sterling" practice again. €13 conversion from $15 is just ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Thats much later than i hoped =[


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Very very strange release date.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Ravage1616


    At least we know now!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    BF3 - end of October
    SKyrim - 11.11.11
    SWTOR - Christmas


    PERFECT !!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭String


    Dcully wrote: »
    BF3 - end of October
    SKyrim - 11.11.11
    SWTOR - Christmas


    PERFECT !!!!!!!!!

    BF3 beta tuesday :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    DrMorphine wrote: »
    BF3 beta tuesday :D

    Indeed man, cant wait :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭TheFairy


    Wasnt intending getting this as I wont be able to put the time in that some clan mates might, however with the Xmas release, and the hols around then I have been suckered in!


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Seems like an odd date, and i won't get to play much for the few days around Christmas, but it's good from a release date point of view. A fair bit after Skyrim/BF3 and a fair bit before Mass Effect 3.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    I think it is to late for a proper Christmas launch honestly; short of releasing boxes a month in advance most people will not want/be able to get the boxes at that date due to travelling, postal delivery and what not for giving it away.

    Now if the boxes are available in late November in stores how ever that's a completly different story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Tyrant^


    silly release date !
    The developers going to work over christmas / new year to fix all the bugs ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭hal9000


    man i hope origin has pre loading like steam otherwise its going to be hell on the 22nd of dec :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ZeitgeistGlee


    It's been confirmed a while back you'll be able to download the client quite a while before launch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    hal9000 wrote: »
    man i hope origin has pre loading like steam otherwise its going to be hell on the 22nd of dec :pac:
    Actually they already mentioned in an interview somewhere that the client will be downloadable before release.

    [edit] As above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭-Kenny-


    Hi guys I dont know where to put this (sorry) but quick question.. Will a nvidia Geforce 8200m g graphics card be able to handle this game ?


    Also delighted about the release date !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Should be, yeah - Requirements are a 7800, so you should be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ZeitgeistGlee


    Should be OK, but given it's a laptop graphics card you're probably going to have to keep settings on low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭-Kenny-


    Thanks for the feedback guys ! Yeah ill be in College so Ill only have my laptop.. I dont mind the settings on low once I can play the thing .. Thanks I appreciate it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    Tyrant^ wrote: »
    silly release date !
    The developers going to work over christmas / new year to fix all the bugs ?

    Thats EA's call no doubt, must haev MMMMMMMMOOOOONNNNNEEEEEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Odd release date...

    Now while I'm visiting houses I'll be swetin to play star wars, brilliant : /

    Still looking forward to it, will take up the free trial that comes with and then see where I go from there, alot of friends joining the bioware staff so fingers crossed a few free subs come my way, and its nice to know I'll have a core group of lads to play with, and work for the bloody thing :D


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I wouldn't say it was all EA's doing tbh. I think it's a good time to release as you've let people get the madness of November and all the single player games that are coming out go past. There have been whispers that there were bigger technical issues than first realised that became apparent in beta testing and of course, there's the need to get Ireland's infrastructure upgraded, not to mention the 200 new jobs filled to have proper day 1 support globally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    What ive learned from playing a few MMO's, if the game isnt on par with wow come release, its doomed. The only games that have been expected to over shadow wow are produced by EA, and they never have the patience, and sadly, as much as id love to see this game blow the **** out of wow..

    It wont, because EA wanna rush it for the quick buck, which is what they are all about.. I don't even know HOW EA got involved in this ****, last i checked it was Lucas arts, obviously and Bioware doing all the work. Why are EA in on this ****?

    Now bare in mind, i may be wrong, but judging from how things usually roll in the gaming world, im pretty sure i wont be, id love to try this game out, but i would need to upgrade my system which is falling apart as i speak. But no game on the horizon is worth the upgrade, sadly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    I kinda disagree with you, But this isnt the thread for it.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    -Kenny- wrote: »
    Hi guys I dont know where to put this (sorry) but quick question.. Will a nvidia Geforce 8200m g graphics card be able to handle this game ?


    Also delighted about the release date !

    I highly doubt it will. The minimum specs say the 7800 which is a much better card than the 8200M. You'd be very lucky to get it to run at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    nix wrote: »
    I don't even know HOW EA got involved in this ****, last i checked it was Lucas arts, obviously and Bioware doing all the work. Why are EA in on this ****?

    Because EA own Bioware. System requirements are actually pretty low, take a look


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    Damn EA buying everything :)

    Im sure my system could handle it, but its on its last legs in terms of hardware, stuff falling off etc

    And Dohnny, i dont think its a matter of agreeing/disagreeing, more of a matter of fact. Name one game EA have their name on/made, thats been going strong for many years that isn't hampered with sequel after sequel each year.

    Warhammers a perfect example, they rushed it out, ****ed it up and made little to no effort to redeem their mistake. The game had so much potential and they wasted the effort in the name of greed.

    PM meh if ya prefer not to derail the thread :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    nix wrote: »
    And Dohnny, i dont think its a matter of agreeing/disagreeing, more of a matter of fact. Name one game EA have their name on/made, thats been going strong for many years that isn't hampered with sequel after sequel each year.
    Ultima Online. 14 years and still running.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    I'm talking with a large player base / competitive community.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    You can't give out about EA for making their name on franchises/sequels though. That's how most of the big publishers do it. They have their franchise/money maker, and then they will invest in other smaller titles...which is exactly what EA do. I'm not their number 1 fan at all, and they had a long period of being the 'devils' of gaming, but they've improved significantly over the last few years.

    At the end of the day, they are a business. If their developers are not meeting their targets, they have to eventually say enough is enough. Sucks to get a game pushed out early, but it's always going to happen. And there's nothing to say that this is what's happening with The Old Republic.

    I'm defending EA? What is this, bizarro land?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    I believe the initial plans were a Q1 2011 release, so we're talking about 10ish months of extra dev time that's gone into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    How have they improved?

    They whore out sequels way before they have to, before the game is even dated, and they add very very little to their sequels. The only reason they do this is to make a ****load of cash. They don't let any of their games grow in terms of competitive/community, which is what online PC gaming is all about (or used to be).

    If they only did it with a few of their games i wouldn't mind, but they do it with ALL of there games, not one excluded.

    Except "Ultima online" which lets face it, is so dated it costs nothing to run and they get bragging rights on what im predicting is thee oldest online MMO still going..

    Apologies for derailing thread, ill stop..

    December 22nd, yeah wooooooo !

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ZeitgeistGlee


    As far as I remember the game was actually aimed for release in mid 2010, before BioWare decided to completely redo the Jedi classes (including storyline aspects) and several other major elements of the game.

    @Doc Lucky you mate, I've got a feeling your loot drops would be enviable. :P


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    You're raising a pretty valid point nix, there's very little new IP from EA, but there's very little new IP from anyone outside of the indie scene which is very disappointing.

    Look at all the major AAA releases this season: Deus Ex, Skyrim, Arkham City, MW3, Assassins Creed, Demon Souls, BF3, Saints Row 3 - all are sequels. It's a trend at the moment when times are tough and it's difficult to justify millions of dollars on a new project that may not perform. You also get a new EA sports game for every title they have every year when the updates could just as easily be DLC or gods forbid, free!

    However, given that Star Wars Galaxies was such a flop and knowing that, as you said, if it's not as good as WoW on day one, this will flop, all parties concerned are absolutely committed to making this work, so I don't think it's fair to say that EA are pushing some sort of "greed" based agenda other than "OK guys, we're way over time here, we have to get it out the door as people are getting impatient and it's starting to cost us a lot of money." They're already employing 200 support staff in Ireland where wages are quite high and who aren't really doing any work (they are supporting people on Beta they told me) and so are a giant money sink. That's not an unreasonable way of looking at it, big and rich as EA are, we're talking about a lot of zeros - this is big business and the ability to earn money means the ability to make more games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    Ah i know stuff like that costs money, but they could have saved money by not jumping the gun so soon, atleast wait until beta is over and wait for a thumbs up from the devs before you start setting up customer support centers and making jobs with no work until release.

    Careful planning, instead of rushed planning.

    A December 22nd release date sounds like a "lets rush it out for Christmas", from the bits and pieces ive been reading, it wont be ready come Dec 22nd. And its gonna be a very **** Christmas for alot of their employees.

    But ill hold off judging until the week after release, im just saying with EA's trend, its likely gonna get fooked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Nah, this game's not being rushed out - this has been the window for a while now, ever since it slipped the spring release. Having played it (granted, for only 20 minutes PvE and 15 minutes PvP) it's more or less done, and the beta atm is ironing out bugs and balance, plus stress testing serverside software.

    Frankly, while I'm far from EAs biggest fan, their enormous vats of money have made The Old Republic a way better game than it would have been without it - stuff like the full voicing, or the ridiculously extended development period - things like these need a huge amount of capital, which EA can, and did provide. They're not gonna rush it out for a christmas release, because box sales are meaningless for an MMO. And, from what I've heard about this games budget, box sales will never make back their investment.

    What EA want is to sell subs, not boxes. And selling subs is best served by letting Bioware make the best game possible, and releasing it when it's done. Which, I'm pretty confident, is what has happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    Ok but ill remain skeptical and shifty eyed at EA >_>

    Why did they rush out Warhammer online if that's the case though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    nix wrote: »
    Ok but ill remain skeptical and shifty eyed at EA >_>

    Why did they rush out Warhammer online if that's the case though?

    Maybe because Warhammer was a piece of crap that was more hype than gameplay and at some stage the product either ships or becomes another Duke Nukem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ZeitgeistGlee


    If I recall correctly it to try to capitalise on the market before Blizzard released the Wrath of the Lich King expansion. Obviously time has shown how much of a backfire that was.

    I actually think SWTOR's protracted development schedule has been in direct contrast to what happened with WAR. EA pushed WAR out at least six months too early with too many key features missing and promises broken, then spent two years trying to undo the damage with little success. Now with SWTOR BioWare seem intent on polishing it to the nines before being willing to release. EA seem to be have learned from their mistakes.

    Personally I think BioWare have been as playing a dangerous a game with release as Mythic did. Mythic released too early and fans with disappointed with the half-complete nature of the game despite all the hype Mark Jacobs built up. By comparison the hype around TOR which has been present for so long, and indeed reached fever-pitch at several points has been dying off in the face of constant delays and BioWare's treatment of the fanbase with regard to Red/Green Zones, beta and just general communicativeness.

    Ironically BioWare could release the game only to find response it that aside from full-voicing it does nothing new or particularly interesting in the face of better looking and more innovative competition (GW2 comes to mind). I genuinely hope that SWTOR knocks the socks off everything it comes up against but I'm no longer certain it'll be an automatic winner outside of a massive launch.


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