Racism is a no go but sexism is okay?

willmunny1990 · 23-09-2011 9:38pm #1

Why does this largely appear to be the case in Irish society? It seems okay to alot of people to ridicule one's gender but racism is a different kettle of fish and is treated much more seriously.

We often hear sexist jokes from men like 'get back in the kitchen' and 'make me a sandwich' and often a time you will hear women(who are the victim of cheating) tar all men with the same brush - ''Men, they're all the same'

To me, deriding one's gender is just as bad as ridiculing the colour of someone's skin. They are both forms of discrimination and neither should exist in 2011.

But for some reason one seems more accepted than the other, why is that?

joannaman · 23-09-2011 9:42pm

I don't know.

Fukuyama · 23-09-2011 9:42pm

Your whining sounds like a whistling kettle.

joannaman · 23-09-2011 9:42pm

Google it!

Temptamperu · 23-09-2011 9:43pm

Not in my book, both are as bad as one another to be fair. Racism has just been in the news more.

Fukuyama · 23-09-2011 9:43pm

I'm not joking when I tell her to make me a sandwich.

py2006 · 23-09-2011 9:44pm

Both are intolerable but I think everybody is guilty of both at times in their lives.

El Guapo! · 23-09-2011 9:45pm

Sexism still gets a lot of news coverage........but only for women.

Seachmall · 23-09-2011 9:45pm

Because Irish people can give eachother **** and take it just as well. We know a kitchen joke or a Kerry man joke is just that, a joke.

Other cultures aren't necessarily as welcoming to that sense of humour, combine that with the PC craze that's sweeping the globe and jokes at the expense of foreigners are a no-go.

For the record I've made plenty of racist jokes around Irish people of non-Irish descent and they've never been taken the wrong way. As much as we complain about Irish culture that's one thing we do well, we've got a great sense of humour.

Ultimately though it comes down to the Jews and their attempts at world domination.

El Guapo! · 23-09-2011 9:46pm

Seachmall wrote: »

Ultimately though it comes down to the Jews and their attempts at world domination.

willmunny1990 · 23-09-2011 9:47pm

Dean0088 wrote: »

Your whining sounds like a whistling kettle.

Dean0088 wrote: »

I'm not joking when I tell her to make me a sandwich.

Oh wow, I just cannot believe how one of these isn't post of the day already:rolleyes:

rubadub · 23-09-2011 9:51pm

As with many of these threads, I do not see this being particular to Ireland, first time I ever heard the "make me a sandwich" thing was in the US tv show everybody loves raymond. I think I hear about as many racist jokes/comments as sexist ones, from both sexes and from other racists, like the cliche black comedian "black man goes like this, whiteman goes like this".

They are both forms of discrimination and neither should exist in 2011.

I am glad they do exist TBH, I would hate to see people taking themselves too seriously and be humourless PC drones. A lot of jokes are based on differences of some physicality.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 23-09-2011 9:53pm

Sitec wrote: »

Stop being sexist.

That's so racist

Artur Foden · 23-09-2011 9:55pm

I don't think joke making should be seen as similiar to actual racism or sexism.

Racism: not giving a woman a job, because she is a woman
Not racism: 'get back in the kitchen' (even though it's unfunny and overused)

holystungun9 · 23-09-2011 9:55pm

Racism is sexy!

themadchef · 23-09-2011 9:58pm

Racism, sexism, orgasm.

2 out of 3 eint bad

People are way too PC and need to lighten the fúck up. Im not talking taking the piss out of everyone that passes you on the street but come on, "shouldint exist"?

Laugh at yourself first, and i think thats the huge problem here, people take themselves far too seriously.

Renedick · 23-09-2011 10:02pm

I'm with you OP.

It's about time us decent upper and middle class folk put aside our differences and focused on the real enemy: those tracksuit wearing scum who assault our senses with their alternative culture :mad:.

Micky Dolenz · 23-09-2011 10:02pm

themadchef wrote: »

Racism, sexism, orgasm.

2 out of 3 eint bad

People are way too PC and need to lighten the fúck up. Im not talking taking the piss out of everyone that passes you on the street but come on, "shouldint exist"?

Laugh at yourself first, and i think thats the huge problem here, people take themselves far too seriously.

No we don't, how dare you.

themadchef · 23-09-2011 10:11pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

No we don't, how dare you.

Youre making the angry face dahling, think of the wrinkles. Pouting is where it's at.

carfiosaoorl · 23-09-2011 10:18pm

They are completely different mainly because there are plenty of men and women around to back themselves up when sexist jokes are told but that cant be said for minority groups. Hmm I thought this would be a long post but I guess not. Stupid question OP.

randylonghorn · 23-09-2011 10:39pm

Artur Foden wrote: »

I don't think joke making should be seen as similiar to actual racism or sexism.

Racism: not giving a woman a job, because she is a woman
Not racism: 'get back in the kitchen' (even though it's unfunny and overused)

I know women are from Venus and men are from Mars, but they're actually still the same race.

El Nero · 23-09-2011 10:42pm

I really think we all need to lighten up.

"Neither should exist in 2011" .

So in 5 years time we will all be boring mindless drones who cant have a laugh.

I don't want to live in that world!

LH Pathe · 23-09-2011 10:42pm

No racism is ok too, judging by the black 'comedian' I just saw heckled to fück on The Roast of Charlie Sheen

but he was just overly sensitive. and tbh, even the women were funnier

For Forks Sake · 23-09-2011 10:43pm

El Nero wrote: »

I really think we all need to lighten up.

"Neither should exist in 2011" .

So in 5 years time we will all be boring mindless drones who cant have a laugh.

I don't want to live in that world!

Whats's needed here is some sexy racism. Or some racy sexism.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 23-09-2011 10:47pm

I remember one time you had to pay for sexism, the fact that we use it so freely now surely shows how progressive we have become as a society, no?

Cupcake_Crisis · 23-09-2011 11:21pm

Sexism is hilarious!

Logical Fallacy · 23-09-2011 11:24pm

When i say make me a sandwich i am not joking.

I really want that sandwich.

Sofaspud · 23-09-2011 11:25pm

I'm not racist. Racism is a crime, and crime is for black people.

Alternatively:

I'm not sexist. Sexism is wrong, and being wrong is for women.

TheZohanS · 23-09-2011 11:25pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Oh wow, I just cannot believe how one of these isn't post of the day already:rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

Cupcake_Crisis · 23-09-2011 11:26pm

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

When i say make me a sandwich i am not joking.

I really want that sandwich.

I love when a guy asks me to make him a sandwich, because I love saying no.

RichieC · 23-09-2011 11:27pm

A black man and a women are knocked down and go flying through the air about 20 yards, the police charged the black man with attempted breaking and entering a fleeing the scene and told the woman to make them a cup of tea and a sandwich.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 23-09-2011 11:36pm

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

I love when a guy asks me to make him a sandwich, because I love saying no.

Obviously he could make the better sandwich :rolleyes:

stmol32 · 23-09-2011 11:46pm

I hate women but I love people from Africa.

I'm confused what should my label be, I think I need to know so I can move on with my life.

stmol32 · 23-09-2011 11:47pm

Ohh **** this isn't personal issues

Ficheall · 23-09-2011 11:51pm

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

I love when a guy asks me to make him a sandwich, because I love saying no.

You should check out 2 Unlimited's "No Limit".

Da_Doc · 24-09-2011 12:51am

El Nero wrote: »

I really think we all need to lighten up.

"Neither should exist in 2011" .

So in 5 years time we will all be boring mindless drones who cant have a laugh.

I don't want to live in that world!

Wait I'm back in 2006......DONT BUY HOUSES, ITS A BUBBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Richard Hillman · 24-09-2011 12:57am

I'd love to see Loose Woman replaced by Loose Immigrants to see how long it lasts.

Duggy747 · 24-09-2011 1:45am

Life would be so much duller without these kinds of jokes. When we would be ashamed of cracking a joke about our differences that aren't malicious or personal.

I love our dark sense of humour. We don't just take the piss out of others, we utterly destroy ourselves and crack jokes at our own expense to get a laugh.

Saila · 24-09-2011 2:10am

Artur Foden wrote: »

I don't think joke making should be seen as similiar to actual racism or sexism.

Racism: not giving a woman a job, because she is a woman
Not racism: 'get back in the kitchen' (even though it's unfunny and overused)

was that an intentional fcuk up or

pragmatic1 · 24-09-2011 3:01am

Duggy747 wrote: »

Life would be so much duller without these kinds of jokes. When we would be ashamed of cracking a joke about our differences that aren't malicious or personal.

I love our dark sense of humour. We don't just take the piss out of others, we utterly destroy ourselves and crack jokes at our own expense to get a laugh.

I agree and myself and my mates are constantly making messed up jokes. Thing is theres nothing really that can be said at the expense of white, hetrosexual, males.

Kanoe · 24-09-2011 3:14am

I don't find sexist stuff funny at all. I mean I hope I have a sense of humour but it's just not that funny. I suppose it's different when you're on the other end of it. It's difficult not to look at the men who do find it funny and think they're mammies are probably still making them dinner and tucking them into bed at night. Which I suppose is grand if that's what you're into. And then I don't really listen to what women have to say on the subject.

ch750536 · 24-09-2011 7:24am

Just asked my wife if she thinks I'm sexist and she said 'will ham & cheese do'?

milehip1 · 24-09-2011 7:38am

LH Pathe wrote: »

No racism is ok too, judging by the black 'comedian' I just saw heckled to fück on The Roast of Charlie Sheen

but he was just overly sensitive. and tbh, even the women were funnier

I had the "pleasure" of watching that debacle and tbh the set was funnier than the roasters.

TheZohanS · 24-09-2011 7:46am

ch750536 wrote: »

Just asked my wife if she thinks I'm sexist and she said 'will ham & cheese do'?

By god I hope you told her that's just not good enough!

Tell her you want scrambled with your fry up.

Eric Cartman · 24-09-2011 10:58am

nah i do both in fairly equal proportions, their part of daily life , the difference is if your racist you might piss off some big black or polish lads , and with sexism worst case youve pissed off some women , but their in the kitchen so cant do anything to you