Media bias towards Dublin's win

DebDynamite

So the Dublin team will be appearing on the Late Late Show tonight and apparently Twink will be presenting them with a cake.

WTF??

I'm not a avid viewer of the Late Late but I'm quite sure the winning football team don't appear every year and have a cake presented to them.

Why the special attention for Dublin?

Le King

DebDynamite wrote: »

So the Dublin team will be appearing on the Late Late Show tonight and apparently Twink will be presenting them with a cake.

WTF??

I'm not a avid viewer of the Late Late but I'm quite sure the winning football team don't appear every year and have a cake presented to them.

Why the special attention for Dublin?

Because the Dubs have the biggest population by a mile and its there first win in a long time. Why not celebrate it. Plus media HQ is in Dublin. You would hardly think they were going to play it down in the media.

Gran Hermano

I'd be more concerned about RTE helping Twink by giving her airtime to pimp her cake decorating business

TeddyTedson

Gran Hermano wrote: »

I'd be more concerned about RTE helping Twink by giving her airtime to pimp her cake decorating business

I hate that old hag.

Dangerous Man

DebDynamite wrote: »

So the Dublin team will be appearing on the Late Late Show tonight and apparently Twink will be presenting them with a cake.

WTF??

I'm not a avid viewer of the Late Late but I'm quite sure the winning football team don't appear every year and have a cake presented to them.

Why the special attention for Dublin?

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DebDynamite

Le King wrote: »

Because the Dubs have the biggest population by a mile and its there first win in a long time. Why not celebrate it. Plus media HQ is in Dublin. You would hardly think they were going to play it down in the media.

This is the thing though, 16 years is not really a long time. Meath aren't too far behind with not winning it in 12 years. I wonder if we win it in the next fews years can we expect media soundbites about how we've been so hungry for so many years for a win. Maybe Hector will appear on the Late Late with the team and serende them with Beautiful Meath.

The national media in this country serves the whole nation and should show no obvious bias, particularly RTE as we all have to pay the licence fee. I can't imagine the BBC giving special treatment to just their London football teams.

DebDynamite

DebDynamite wrote: »

This is the thing though, 16 years is not really a long time. Meath aren't too far behind with not winning it in 12 years. I wonder if we win it in the next fews years can we expect media soundbites about how we've been so hungry for so many years for a win. Maybe Hector will appear on the Late Late with the team and serende them with Beautiful Meath.

The national media in this country serves the whole nation and should show no obvious bias, particularly RTE as we all have to pay the licence fee. I can't imagine the BBC giving special treatment to just their London football teams.

No, because no one gives a **** about Meath to put it bluntly.Also the fact that historically Dublin are one of the big teams will give more media bias because of the first time in 16 years win.

Compare it to Liverpool winning the premiership.

DebDynamite

Vincent Big Podiatrist wrote: »

Compare it to Liverpool winning the premiership.

Not really the same thing. Since the 70s until begining of the 90's Liverpool were the powerhouse of English football, practically winning the league every year and then...nothing. Of course them winning the league would be a big deal - because of their story - not because they are from the capital.

thegen

So what, If it upsets you turn off the TV.

dartbhoy

Don't watch the Late Late but as far as I know Turbidy has a say in the guest list so I'm sure he's responsible for them been on. Can't see the harm in them been on the Late Late anyway.

gooch2k9

In fairness, everyone knew if Dublin won the match we'd never hear the end of it, and that is just playing out now.

Probably a business decision with regards The Late Late, like this commemorative jersey O'Neills have brought out.

Profiler

thegen wrote: »

So what, If it upsets you turn off the TV.

Exactly.

Nobody is forcing you to watch it, are they?

Please tell me you are not one of those people who sees a program advertised in the papers/on the net and thinks.

"JASUS! :mad: I better watch that, otherwise I'll never know how upset, irritated or offended it would have made me..."

bruschi

not an avid viewer of the Late Late yet giving out because Dublin are on it. ???

I dont watch the Late Late, and I wont be tonight. but I'll bet there are thousands of Dubs who also dont watch it who will tune in for a change. its about advertising and demographics, you have on guests that make people watch.

who gives a shíte if its Dublin on. we knew there'd be heaps about it, no point whinging now. and to be honest, I cant say its been that over the top. if anything, it took away from the rugby on Saturday, and they ended up balancing out a bit during the week.

Min

Because they think it will be another 16 years wait.

Hence very little about Kilkenny or Kerry when they win.

eigrod

A selection of (unemployed) Cork footballers and Tipperary hurlers (both reigning AI champions at the time) were on it about 6 months ago discussing their unemployment situation.

If it promotes the GAA, then it's all good.

Twink can feck off though.

Tony10

ah lads.come on.They are the winners at the moment.It will bring in some ratings for the falling late late show ratings. Just let it go.I'm sure whatever team had won would be on the show tonight.You really have to stop with this dublin hating thing.it got old a long time ago.Suck it up.or don't watch the show.jeez.

Samich

Tony10 wrote: »

ah lads.come on.They are the winners at the moment.It will bring in some ratings for the falling late late show ratings. Just let it go.I'm sure whatever team had won would be on the show tonight.You really have to stop with this dublin hating thing.it got old a long time ago.Suck it up.or don't watch the show.jeez.

You need.spaces after.your full.stops.

fran oconnor

Where they on already??.

km79

Tony10 wrote: »

ah lads.come on.They are the winners at the moment.It will bring in some ratings for the falling late late show ratings. Just let it go.I'm sure whatever team had won would be on the show tonight.You really have to stop with this dublin hating thing.it got old a long time ago.Suck it up.or don't watch the show.jeez.

How many times were the recent Kerry teams "honored " like this ? Or maybe they just said no !!!

DH2K9

DebDynamite wrote: »

So the Dublin team will be appearing on the Late Late Show tonight and apparently Twink will be presenting them with a cake.

WTF??

I'm not a avid viewer of the Late Late but I'm quite sure the winning football team don't appear every year and have a cake presented to them.

Why the special attention for Dublin?

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's the county's first All-Ireland title in 16 years

n32

the media are going to ruin this dublin team over the coming months. the furore since sunday has been unreal. i ve never seen anything like the attention they ve been getting. Kilkenny won 4 in a row, a huge achievement, and it was forgotten about a few days after. On the news tonight there was about a big story dedicated to the fella that went on the field during the celebrations and showed him and the players going into RTE before the Late Late. I dont begrudge them their moment in the sun but they re not that remarkable a team that they deserve so much attention. In the long run this win could be detrimental to their development. If they had lost last Sunday they would have looked at improving on their obvious weaknesses (lack of scoring power etc) and would have been a much more rounded team for it but now they will be inundated with requests and hangers on.

By winning last sunday a lot of their weaknesses will be ignored. Also if Gilroy and whelan go, it will be very hard for a new man coming in. They still have an unfinshed look about them and by bringing in a new management team they will have to decide if they want to stick with Gilroys systems or rebuild and devise a new playing style.

If they had any sense they would enjoy this week and next week, then get back to their clubs and forget about interviews and all that other oul ****e because better teams than them have fallen into the trap of ''wintering well'' and not living up to their potential the following year. A few clubmates of mine were on the Cork squad last season and they felt really flat this year. They said they didnt realise how much the winter took out of them. When they should have been recharging they were bringing the cup here ther and everywhere, presenting medals and having their arse kissed. They said it really caught up with them during the summer. The best thing they can do is copy Steven Cluxton and avoid the media like the plague.

For any Dublin fan who reads this, its not a cut at the Dubs. I m not looking to start a city v country war

JacksonHeightsOwn

n32 wrote: »

the media are going to ruin this dublin team over the coming months. the furore since sunday has been unreal. i ve never seen anything like the attention they ve been getting. Kilkenny won 4 in a row, a huge achievement, and it was forgotten about a few days after. On the news tonight there was about a big story dedicated to the fella that went on the field during the celebrations and showed him and the players going into RTE before the Late Late. I dont begrudge them their moment in the sun but they re not that remarkable a team that they deserve so much attention. In the long run this win could be detrimental to their development. If they had lost last Sunday they would have looked at improving on their obvious weaknesses (lack of scoring power etc) and would have been a much more rounded team for it but now they will be inundated with requests and hangers on.

By winning last sunday a lot of their weaknesses will be ignored. Also if Gilroy and whelan go, it will be very hard for a new man coming in. They still have an unfinshed look about them and by bringing in a new management team they will have to decide if they want to stick with Gilroys systems or rebuild and devise a new playing style.

If they had any sense they would enjoy this week and next week, then get back to their clubs and forget about interviews and all that other oul ****e because better teams than them have fallen into the trap of ''wintering well'' and not living up to their potential the following year. A few clubmates of mine were on the Cork squad last season and they felt really flat this year. They said they didnt realise how much the winter took out of them. When they should have been recharging they were bringing the cup here ther and everywhere, presenting medals and having their arse kissed. They said it really caught up with them during the summer. The best thing they can do is copy Steven Cluxton and avoid the media like the plague.

For any Dublin fan who reads this, its not a cut at the Dubs. I m not looking to start a city v country war

im not a huge GAA fan, but obviosuly being from Dublin, im delighted they won the All-Ireland

now to your highlighted part, i was at the Guinness hop store last night and a good few of the Dublin lads where there,

they werent in any VIP area, and where there just enjoying a few drinks.

i finally stumped up enough courage to go over and congratulate them. I was expecting a bunch of cocky arse-holes if im being honest, but i couldnt get over how humble, and genuinely friendly the players where. Even with all their media attention, i really was impressed with them,

so i dont think it will get to their heads.

oh, and lads, with all your whinging about the "media bias towards Dublin", you'se are coming off a bit small time

homerjay2005

i dont have a problem with it, they deserve the attention.

for those asking why they are on the late late, it is called ratings. i bet last nights late late, was up a few % on last week. youd have lads and ladies who never watch it, tuned in last night.

sure aint we talking about it here?in other words, job done for RTE.

Brendan97

DH2K9 wrote: »

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's the county's first All-Ireland title in 16 years

I don't have a problem with dublin getting attention or anything but there is a media bias towards dublin. if a team didn't win an all-ireland in 100 years or even never won an All-ireland, they wouldn't get the attention dublin get

Nonoperational

To be honest I'm a Cork supporter and I was expecting a much worse media fanfare. I think it's fair enough they celebrate it it's a big deal. I wouldn't think it's OTT at all.

Frankie Lee

As a Kildare man the media reaction to Dublin winning the AI has been bearable. If it the Dublin team of 3 or 4 years ago it would be a different story entirely.

corny

DebDynamite wrote: »

So the Dublin team will be appearing on the Late Late Show tonight and apparently Twink will be presenting them with a cake.

WTF??

I'm not a avid viewer of the Late Late but I'm quite sure the winning football team don't appear every year and have a cake presented to them.

Why the special attention for Dublin?

There are more people in Dublin is the very obvious answer. Surely you could have worked that out for yourself?

Anyway i haven't noticed any big exposure all week. I think a certain few will always be drawn on the 'hyped' Dubs when in reality this team has done everything in its power to shun the limelight when it mattered.

rpurfield

id no problem with them being on because i never watch it i cant stand that smug looking yoke that presents it.i just hope bryan cullen didnt mix up tubridy and the sam maguire the lugs on the two of them are fierce similar

DebDynamite

corny wrote: »

There are more people in Dublin is the very obvious answer. Surely you could have worked that out for yourself?

Funny when the question has been posed "why haven't Dublin, with their large population, been more successful in recent years?", the answers given would be "a lot of the Dublin population are actally from the country/abroad", "GAA comes second/third behind soccer (possibly Rugby) in terms of interest.

But now the reason given to justify the huge media interest contradicts those arguments. Which one is it?

Look, I don't begrudge the Dublin lads, their week(s) in the spotlight, but watching the Late Late last night, you'd swear it was the Ireland team coming home victorious from the GAA World Cup. People do realise the All Ireland is won every other year by other counties, right? Do they not deserve to get a few mins on Ireland's premier chat show and an oppurtunity to create some memories to show the grandkids when they're old?

DH2K9

Brendan97 wrote: »

I don't have a problem with dublin getting attention or anything but there is a media bias towards dublin. if a team didn't win an all-ireland in 100 years or even never won an All-ireland, they wouldn't get the attention dublin get

It's GAA getting media coverage. What's the problem with that?

Flukey

DebDynamite wrote: »

So the Dublin team will be appearing on the Late Late Show tonight and apparently Twink will be presenting them with a cake.

WTF??

I'm not a avid viewer of the Late Late but I'm quite sure the winning football team don't appear every year and have a cake presented to them.

Why the special attention for Dublin?

Yes, in the history of the Late Late Show, this is the first time that anyone associated with the GAA has ever appeared on it. On the news bulletins last Sunday evening, for the very first time in the history of RTE, they mentioned what team won the All-Ireland. On Monday night, for the first time in the history of RTE, they mentioned the homecoming of an All-Ireland winning team on the news. During the week the Dublin meeja, [which of course consists of natives of counties from all over the country], wrote stories about an All-Ireland final.

The irony of all of this giving out is that the only time people from the other 31 counties pay detailed attention to the media, is when Dublin are mentioned, leading them to actually believe the sentences of the above paragraph. If they paid a bit more attention, [if you are not from Dublin, please make sure you are sitting down before reading on and have medical attention close at hand], they would notice that all counties get large amounts of media attention.

I really hope the hospitals around the country can deal with the amount of people now heading to them after the shock revelation of the last sentence of my previous paragraph.:rolleyes:

Flukey

After Dublin being on last night's Late Late Show, you'll all be glad to hear that Kerry will feature on Brendan O'Connor's show tonight. Ms. Katona will be among the guests. A Celebrity Bainnisteoir will also feature. So that kills all the talk of bias and if that doesn't please you, nothing will.

Paulie Walnuts

As far as media bias, absolutely. The Dublin fans can say it's sour grapes/jealously by everyone else but there hasn't been any objective reporting on Dublins win. No media outlet seems to want to mention that the Dubs always have home advantage in the AI championship. This article states that The Dubs have played in Croker 30 out of 31 times in the past 6 six championhips up to 2011. This years games included, it would bring that figure up to 35 of 36.

http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/news/gaa/Dublins-home-stand-is-an-unfair-advantage.aspx

...and before Dublin fans respond with "Parnell Park is Dublins home ground" nonsense, I reiterate, 35 of 36 games people! Also Dublin fans seem to believe they have a god given right to Hill 16 so don't bother with any of that Croker is the national stadium guff or that it makes financial sense for he GAA. When one team is given an advantage over the rest on financial grounds, it stops being sport and becomes a money making racket.

Any reporter worth his/her salt would see that this is fairly significant but where's the reporting? Where was the reporting of the disgraceful behaviour of the Dublin "fans" who booed and whistled the Kerry players everytime the took a free kick? Or the fact that Dublin got so many soft frees in the final (or the pathetic decision to "give" Dublin a free kick in the last minute of the Kildare game).

The media wil be w*nking all over themselves for the next decade about Dublins win but none of them want to tell it like it is. That the GAA have done everything in their power to make Dublins win possible.

Seamo87

1. Everyone in Ireland pays a TV licence (otherwise some weird people call to their door).......Even people outside of Dublin have to pay this fee, which is used to run the Late Late. So why threat some customers/contributors different to others?!!!

2. Armagh had never won an All-Ireland and they never got their night on the Late Late or a cake 4rm Twink, likewise Tyrone, Kerry won back to back (only team in last 20 years to do so).......Kilkenny went and won 4 bloody All-Irelands, and yes again no cake and no Late Late!!!

Case closed, it's clearly bias towards Dublin, we've seen it all the time, the GAA are guilty of it too. None of this is to knock Dublin's acheivements, nothing to do with that. But RTE and the GAA are shameful in the way they favour Dublin. I would have rathered they had the Tipp minors on the Late Late (I'm not 4rm Tipp), their win was far more significant, if you disagree, then you don't know your GAA/sport in general.

Give the rest of Ireland a fair shake!!!!!!!!

Flukey

Paulie Walnuts wrote: »

As far as media bias, absolutely. The Dublin fans can say it's sour grapes/jealously by everyone else but there hasn't been any objective reporting on Dublins win. No media outlet seems to want to mention that the Dubs always have home advantage in the AI championship. This article states that The Dubs have played in Croker 30 out of 31 times in the past 6 six championhips up to 2011. This years games included, it would bring that figure up to 35 of 36.

http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/news/gaa/Dublins-home-stand-is-an-unfair-advantage.aspx

...and before Dublin fans respond with "Parnell Park is Dublins home ground" nonsense, I reiterate, 35 of 36 games people! Also Dublin fans seem to believe they have a god given right to Hill 16 so don't bother with any of that Croker is the national stadium guff or that it makes financial sense for he GAA. When one team is given an advantage over the rest on financial grounds, it stops being sport and becomes a money making racket.

Any reporter worth his/her salt would see that this is fairly significant but where's the reporting? Where was the reporting of the disgraceful behaviour of the Dublin "fans" who booed and whistled the Kerry players everytime the took a free kick? Or the fact that Dublin got so many soft frees in the final (or the pathetic decision to "give" Dublin a free kick in the last minute of the Kildare game).

The media wil be w*nking all over themselves for the next decade about Dublins win but none of them want to tell it like it is. That the GAA have done everything in their power to make Dublins win possible.

Parnell Park is Dublin's home ground, so that is not nonsense, no matter how often Dublin play in Croke Park. As for Croke Park being an advantage, given that this is the first time in 16 years that Dublin has won the All-Ireland, it is hardly an advantage. There was a 12 year gap before that. With the exception of 2001, Dublin have been knocked out of the championship in Croke Park in those years, so again it is hardly an advantage. Since Dublin had last won the All-Ireland Galway, Meath, Kerry, Cork and Tyrone have all won the All-Ireland more than once, so Croke Park is obviously a far greater advantage to them.

As to Hill 16 being for Dublin fans only, now that is nonsense. The majority of Dublin fans in Croke Park on a big match day are not on Hill 16, and Hill 16, as we saw last Sunday and on any other occasion Dublin play in Croke Park, always has fans of other counties on it.

As for Dublin fans booing free takers, well that makes them just like fans of the other 31 counties, as does getting soft frees in matches. If the media are helping Dublin to win all-Irelands, then again I must reiterate that this was their first win in 16 years, so the media are obviously doing a very bad job of it.

Fitzerb

DebDynamite wrote: »

This is the thing though, 16 years is not really a long time. Meath aren't too far behind with not winning it in 12 years. I wonder if we win it in the next fews years can we expect media soundbites about how we've been so hungry for so many years for a win. Maybe Hector will appear on the Late Late with the team and serende them with Beautiful Meath.

The national media in this country serves the whole nation and should show no obvious bias, particularly RTE as we all have to pay the licence fee. I can't imagine the BBC giving special treatment to just their London football teams.

If you lot win in the next two years you can expect Jesus to drop in to present it on the late late. Because if you win in the next 20 years it will be a miracle

PARKHEAD67

Samich wrote: »

You need.spaces after.your full.stops.

You need to take your pills.first thing.in the morning.

Fitzerb

Seamo87 wrote: »

1. Everyone in Ireland pays a TV licence (otherwise some weird people call to their door).......Even people outside of Dublin have to pay this fee, which is used to run the Late Late. So why threat some customers/contributors different to others?!!!

2. Armagh had never won an All-Ireland and they never got their night on the Late Late or a cake 4rm Twink, likewise Tyrone, Kerry won back to back (only team in last 20 years to do so).......Kilkenny went and won 4 bloody All-Irelands, and yes again no cake and no Late Late!!!

Case closed, it's clearly bias towards Dublin, we've seen it all the time, the GAA are guilty of it too. None of this is to knock Dublin's acheivements, nothing to do with that. But RTE and the GAA are shameful in the way they favour Dublin. I would have rathered they had the Tipp minors on the Late Late (I'm not 4rm Tipp), their win was far more significant, if you disagree, then you don't know your GAA/sport in general.

Give the rest of Ireland a fair shake!!!!!!!!

Your having a laugh........ Your begrudging attitude is oozing out of the screen........ Why not change the station

PARKHEAD67

Fitzerb wrote: »

If you lot win in the next two years you can expect Jesus to drop in to present it on the late late. Because if you win in the next 20 years it will be a miracle

Clare never got to meet uncle gayboy in 92 after we won the Munster Football Final. Beating the great Kerry in the Final that year.Now THAT was a miracle.:D

Paulie Walnuts

Flukey wrote: »

Parnell Park is Dublin's home ground, so that is not nonsense, no matter how often Dublin play in Croke Park.

If the media are helping Dublin to win all-Irelands, then again I must reiterate that this was their first win in 16 years, so the media are obviously doing a very bad job of it.

sighs...

I knew it, i just knew it. Did you even watch the game? Did you see Hill 16? Where is Croke Park situated? It's in Dublin last time i checked. If a team plays almost every game in one place then you can take it for granted that is their home ground. If you don't see this then you are not being realistic.

As for Hill 16, have you forgotten how the Dublin team reacted a few years back when Mayo had the cheek to warm up in front of Hill 16? Players and management were an embarrassment to the game.

The fact that Dublin win an AI so rarely is testament to the mediocrity of Dublin GAA. If other teams were allowed play all their games at home you can be sure they wouldn't have as woeful a record as Dublin.

The_Kew_Tour

As a Corkman I say better luck to the Dublin team..

I think it's good for the GAA and I can see the buzz it has given the city in last week.

Fair play to them and if they get media attention so what.

They seem like good bunch of lads maybe bar one or two. Met two them before and they were dead sound guys.

thegen

Great to see the bitterness from some of the other counties coming to the fore, makes the win all the sweeter, there are some gracious rivals who have behaved like adults, fair Play.

mikemac

If they had lost the media which is praising them now would be ripping them to pieces and calling for mass firings
As well as being called chokers

Sure it's happened even year they've been knocked out the championship by better teams

What's that they say about the Dubs and the English football team? Build them up to knock them up.

Let the Dubs have their moment as if they can't repeat next year the media will not hold back with their vicious criticism

Paulzx

Paulie Walnuts wrote: »

sighs...

I knew it, i just knew it. Did you even watch the game? Did you see Hill 16? Where is Croke Park situated? It's in Dublin last time i checked. If a team plays almost every game in one place then you can take it for granted that is their home ground. If you don't see this then you are not being realistic.

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What do you suggest? Move Croke Park to a different county any time Dublin are due to play there?

Jesus, the Dub hating has got to a new level when the fact Croker is in Dublin is a problem for some people

Paulie Walnuts

Paulzx wrote: »

What do you suggest? Move Croke Park to a different county any time Dublin are due to play there?

Jesus, the Dub hating has got to a new level when the fact Croker is in Dublin is a problem for some people

Hi-larious. I would suggest that Dublin play an away game in the AI series more than once in 7 years. Is that too much to ask?

Profiler

Paulie Walnuts wrote: »

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I knew it, i just knew it. Did you even watch the game? Did you see Hill 16? Where is Croke Park situated? It's in Dublin last time i checked. If a team plays almost every game in one place then you can take it for granted that is their home ground. If you don't see this then you are not being realistic.

As for Hill 16, have you forgotten how the Dublin team reacted a few years back when Mayo had the cheek to warm up in front of Hill 16? Players and management were an embarrassment to the game.

The fact that Dublin win an AI so rarely is testament to the mediocrity of Dublin GAA. If other teams were allowed play all their games at home you can be sure they wouldn't have as woeful a record as Dublin.

Honestly? you are having a go at Dublin over Croke Park?

Given how many people are prepared to part with hard earned and much needed cash to see Dublin play, what other venue in Dublin do you suggest the Dublin Hurlers and Footballers play at?

Despite not being Sam Maguire winners for 16 years, Dublin are the biggest box office draw in the GAA.

It has suited the GAA for Dublin to play in Croke park, in fact there are times when it has suited the GAA more than it suited Dublin.

As for the Media, they've taken more than their fair share of needless pot shots at Dublin in the past, I'm not saying they owe Dublin anything.

All I see is a thread whinging about media praise for Dublin, where were the corresponding threads by non Dublin fans saying the media went over the top when slagging off Dublin?

Nowhere, you can't love it when the media slag off Dublin and then whinge when the praise them.

All I can speak about is that I've ignore the press as much this week as I've ignored them in the last 16 years.

Paulie Walnuts

So just because Dublin are the biggest draw they should have an unfair advantage over every other team? How about every fixture is arranged in order to maximize ticket sales. It's not like home advantage counts for anything anyway right? Every Munster game would be moved to Cork, every Connaught game would be played in Galway.

Th media slagging off Dublin, sure that happens sometimes but they also build Dublin up to be a better team than they really year after year. Every year we are told that "this is Dublins year" and almost ever year they are shown up to hyped up chokers.

Sunnyisland

Seamo87 wrote: »

.Kilkenny went and won 4 bloody All-Irelands, and yes again no cake and no Late Late!!!

Case closed, .

Give the rest of Ireland a fair shake!!!!!!!!

Friday, 11 September 2009


Jermaine Jackson gives his first interview outside the US since his brother's death. The "Liam McCarthy Cup" winners and All-Ireland champions for four years in a row, Kilkenny, are Ryan's first guests. While Kelly Osbourne talks candidly about her rock 'n' roll teens and the Fair City cast celebrate their twentieth anniversary.

Donald_ducked

Profiler

Paulie Walnuts wrote: »

So just because Dublin are the biggest draw they should have an unfair advantage over every other team?

You are no student of history are you? Where were the complaints and whinging about "unfair advantage" when Kerry beat us by 17 points, when Tyrone handed us our arse on a plate?

Paulie Walnuts wrote: »

How about every fixture is arranged in order to maximize ticket sales.

How about you calm down? Every county board (Dublin, Cork, Letrim, Longford, Sligo) does what it can to provide the best venue for the most fans of it's home team that it can, why are you so insistent that Dublin not be afforded the same right?

Paulie Walnuts wrote: »

The media slagging off Dublin, sure that happens sometimes but they also build Dublin up to be a better team than they really year after year. Every year we are told that "this is Dublins year" and almost ever year they are shown up to hyped up chokers.

When have you complained about the hype in the same way you now whinge about the praise?

I'm not listening to it, why are you listening to it when it seems to offend and wind you up so much?

Flukey

Paulie Walnuts wrote: »

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I knew it, i just knew it. Did you even watch the game? Did you see Hill 16? Where is Croke Park situated? It's in Dublin last time i checked. If a team plays almost every game in one place then you can take it for granted that is their home ground. If you don't see this then you are not being realistic.

As for Hill 16, have you forgotten how the Dublin team reacted a few years back when Mayo had the cheek to warm up in front of Hill 16? Players and management were an embarrassment to the game.

The fact that Dublin win an AI so rarely is testament to the mediocrity of Dublin GAA. If other teams were allowed play all their games at home you can be sure they wouldn't have as woeful a record as Dublin.

Did I watch the game? Yes, I was at it. Did you I see Hill 16? Yes, I was in section 301 of the Cusack Stand... yes a Dub in Croke Park who was not on Hill 16, imagine that!!!! Yes, top marks for your geography, Croke Park is indeed in Dublin. No matter how often we play there, it is not our home ground, and in that I am being 100% realistic, because those are the facts of the matter.

So we don't win All-Irelands because we are mediocre. Now this is the crunch of the issue. Time and time again we have people come on here telling us that Croke Park is an advantage to Dublin, yet they can never give even one reason why. Being an advantage would imply that we derive some benefit from it. 1 All-Ireland in the last 16 years, or 2 in the last 28 years does not seem to show any advantage. Exiting the championship there in all of those years, bar Thurles in 2001, would show we don't have an advantage. In the last 16 years we did not even get to a final. As I stated in my last post other counties have won more All-Irelands in that period and they and others have also reached multiple finals. So we are being told that we have an advantage over the teams that have all achieved more than us, which does not make sense.

We play in Croke Park a lot, true, but as the stats prove, it is not an advantage. The only statistic that people saying we have an advantage ever use is the amount of times we play there. That's like saying that someone who regularly buys a Lotto ticket, but never wins anything has benefitted more than someone who has only bought a few, but won several times. So, you have the statistics of how often we play there, but if you are going to make an argument about it being an advantage, where are the statistics that prove it? There aren't any. As I've shown though, there are plenty to prove it isn't an advantage. So the fact of the matter is, just like Parnell Park is Dublin's home ground, Croke Park is not an advantage to Dublin. End of debate... unless you can come up with any statistics that prove otherwise. In all the years that people have been saying "Dublin have an advantage by playing in Croke Park", they've never produced any.

In 16 years time, if say Dublin have won 10 of the All-Irelands in that time, maybe we can consider re-opening the debate. But for now, it is indisputable that Croke Park is not an advantage to Dublin. In order to keep yourselves occupied in the next 16 years, maybe head over to one of the science forums and start a debate about how water isn't wet. Now I know there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to prove that, but little details like that haven't stopped you all making similar arguments here. Have fun!