Buying alcohol for minors

nyarlthotepful

Is it wrong or right? I recently got caught by my mammy buying alcohol for my sister (who's 15) and some of her friends.
As I'm fully grown, I can't really get in trouble with my mam about this but I did question if I was doing the right thing. Have any of your siblings asked you for alcohol? I'm a sensible sort and drink in moderation and didn't drink while I was underage either and I can't really see the harm in it.

af_thefragile

Its illegal...

Go figure...

mackg

I asked people do it for me when I was that age so I would do it for people underage now, people I know mind you not random people on the road.

sdanseo

nyarlthotepful wrote: »

Is it wrong or right? I recently got caught by my mammy buying alcohol for my sister (who's 15) and some of her friends.
As I'm fully grown, I can't really get in trouble with my mam about this but I did question if I was doing the right thing. Have any of your siblings asked you for alcohol? I'm a sensible sort and drink in moderation and didn't drink while I was underage either and I can't really see the harm in it.

No, but if the law catches you you'll be fined some ridiculous sum of money. :pac:

Logical Fallacy

Part of being a kid is trying to figure out how to get booze.

By getting it for your sister you are merely handicapping her possible creativity.

Shame on you OP.

Seachmall

People did it for me when I was younger but I wouldn't do it for someone else. Just couldn't be arsed really. In saying that kids are going to drink and it'd be safer if they did it in a place with adults present rather than having them crossing a rotten and disused train track bridge to drink under it. 6 feet from a fast moving river. With no barriers. In the dead of night.

brummytom

I turned 18 just over 2 weeks ago. I was amazed by how many new 16 friends I made the next day....



Yeah, I bought drinks for them. But I kept the change, so I didn't do it out of the goodness of my heart.
(These were kids from my school, I don't know them though)

Shield

nyarlthotepful wrote: »

As I'm fully grown

This was the bit I'd question the most.

stacexD

In fairness, if it was a once off thing or her first time drinking it's better that you got her drink than the randomer that she would have asked to buy her a 70cl of vodka later. At least (I assume) you bought her what she can handle and since you know already she will come to you if she gets in any trouble.

Elbi

I would often buy it for my brother and his mates when he was under age but that was for them to sit at home and drink while i was in the house.

Now and then I would be asked to by if for random kids hanging around outside the off-licence but I def never would. I'd worry they could go off, get utterly hammered and something could happen to them.

hondasam

nyarlthotepful wrote: »

Is it wrong or right? I recently got caught by my mammy buying alcohol for my sister (who's 15) and some of her friends.
As I'm fully grown, I can't really get in trouble with my mam about this but I did question if I was doing the right thing. Have any of your siblings asked you for alcohol? I'm a sensible sort and drink in moderation and didn't drink while I was underage either and I can't really see the harm in it.

You should not encourage her to lie to her mother, providing drink for her and her friends is stupid. Will you accept the blame if something happens to them.

foggy_lad

Seachmall wrote: »

People did it for me when I was younger but I wouldn't do it for someone else. Just couldn't be arsed really. In saying that kids are going to drink and it'd be safer if they did it in a place with adults present rather than having them crossing a rotten and disused train track bridge to drink under it. 6 feet from a fast moving river. With no barriers. In the dead of night.

I was in that situation a few times, beside the canal in dead of night with a keg or two stolen off the train:)

mackg

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Part of being a kid is trying to figure out how to get booze.

By getting it for your sister you are merely handicapping her possible creativity.

Shame on you OP.

It's 90% sheer perseverance IMO, most creative thing we did was get the booze from a cash and carry. Got loads of it for nearly nothing and they didn't even think to ask for ID. Opened the first few cans and the shades showed up and took the lot and brought us to the station:(

stacexD

hondasam wrote: »

You should not encourage her to lie to her mother, providing drink for her and her friends is stupid. Will you accept the blame if something happens to them.

Fact is the kid is gonna drink whether her sister buys it or she gets it another way. If you ever drank when you were younger you'd know that the people whos family were aware of them drinking usually got on better than those who didn't, most of my friends parents, although they didn't encourage the drinking would call a few times during the day to check in because they knew well what was going on.. and they were always the ones that were made to go home by a certain time.
Then there were the other ones who kept it a secret asking random people to buy them drink (and the kind of random people that will buy a 15 year old drink don't usually care about them) they usually just lied to their parents about staying in peoples houses and all that and would stay in town till all hours.
Just saying it's good that her sister knows what's happening once it's a once off. Having someone to look out for you goes a long way when you're a drunk 15 year old

AgileMyth

My mother used to buy mine from I was 15ish. When we were going to discos and such she was the only parent who actually knew what her kids were drinking. I was never the one who had to be carried home/brought into hospital either.

AnonoBoy

They've had a tough time in Wales recently.

F*ck it, buy those miners booze.

Mits

Buying drink for underage kids is irresponsible. You should have be looking out for your sister not putting her in danger.
If your old enough you are sure to have come across drunken teenagers.

hondasam

stacexD wrote: »

Fact is the kid is gonna drink whether her sister buys it or she gets it another way. If you ever drank when you were younger you'd know that the people whos family were aware of them drinking usually got on better than those who didn't, most of my friends parents, although they didn't encourage the drinking would call a few times during the day to check in because they knew well what was going on.. and they were always the ones that were made to go home by a certain time.
Then there were the other ones who kept it a secret asking random people to buy them drink (and the kind of random people that will buy a 15 year old drink don't usually care about them) they usually just lied to their parents about staying in peoples houses and all that and would stay in town till all hours.
Just saying it's good that her sister knows what's happening once it's a once off. Having someone to look out for you goes a long way when you're a drunk 15 year old

Yes I drank when I was younger and my parents knew about it which is why I would never encourage or condone it myself.

Elmidena

Next time, take all the cash of sister et al, and then keep it. What's she going to do, tell your Mammy :pac:

Chuck Stone

It depends.

If I knew she was able to handle it and was kinda responsible I would do it. If I was living in the same house so I could keep my eye on her I would no probs.

Being 15 doesn't automatically = stupid.

Mr. CooL ICE

When I was 16, myself and my mate went to Cork city for the day and decided to get drunk. Although I looked 18, first off license I tried didn't serve me (probably because I asked where the nagans were - duh).

We went outside and some hobo complemented my mates t-shirt and then asked for change. So we decided to give him £20 and tell him to buy us 3 nagans of vodka and said he could keep the change. He was more than happy to get change and we were happy to get our alcohol

Moral of the story: Well, is there one? Hell do i know

bridgemond

AgileMyth wrote: »

My mother used to buy mine from I was 15ish. When we were going to discos and such she was the only parent who actually knew what her kids were drinking. I was never the one who had to be carried home/brought into hospital either.

I was in the same boat. My parents knew I drank from about 15 and always bought me drink. Wouldn't get it for my mate's though. I used to come home at whatever time the parents said, Unlike some other buddies who would not go home in fear of getting caught drinking and where out very late with there parents looking for them, So there parents probably ending up worrying about them alot more than mine.

I would buy drink for people if I know them well and if there parents allow them drink.

Hank_Jones

LordChessington wrote: »

When I was 16, myself and my mate went to Cork city for the day and decided to get drunk. Although I looked 18, first off license I tried didn't serve me (probably because I asked where the nagans were - duh).

We went outside and some hobo complemented my mates t-shirt and then asked for change. So we decided to give him £20 and tell him to buy us 3 nagans of vodka and said he could keep the change. He was more than happy to get change and we were happy to get our alcohol

Moral of the story: Well, is there one? Hell do i know

Hobos will do almost anything for a few quid?

PseudoFamous

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Hobos will do almost anything for a few quid?

I'll do it for a few quid, and the shady looking lad found smoking outside the pub did it before me, and probably another fellah before him.

It's the circle of life.

billybudd

cool thing to do because we dont already have a circle of drink related problems here.

patwicklow

Was 19 when i started drinking as my mum was in the pub trade and i worked behind the bar for a good few years before i wanted booze. but my mates were footballers at the time(well known) and when i started boozing that was it for me for ten years.. so some advice for some youngters 16 onwards stay well away..

willmunny1990

I did it a couple of times mainly when i just turned 18,id go in and buy it for my friends who hadnt turned 18 yet,when i turned 19-20 i stopped completely,if someone came up to me now i wouldnt do it.

Never did it, Didn't need to, the pub we used to go to wasn't worried about the fact that we were underage!

4zn76tysfajdxp

When I started drinking at seventeen, I'd just buy my own drink and hand over my own ID. Dunno how but it worked every time. Tell her to try that, OP.

biko

It's wrong/illegal.
Some people will do it anyway, some will get caught.
Some minors will form an addiction. Some will not.
It may, or may not, be your fault.

Then of course there's a difference between a 14yo and a 17yo but the line has to go somewhere and society has chosen 18.

StudentDad

biko wrote: »

It's wrong/illegal.
Some people will do it anyway, some will get caught.
Some minors will form an addiction. Some will not.
It may, or may not, be your fault.

Then of course there's a difference between a 14yo and a 17yo but the line has to go somewhere and society has chosen 18.

No I wouldn't - a: it's illegal and b: horrible waste of money.

SD

blackwhite

Mits wrote: »

Buying drink for underage kids is irresponsible. You should have be looking out for your sister not putting her in danger.
If your old enough you are sure to have come across drunken teenagers.

Resisting..... urge......to make.......smart..........comment........

it's legal for parents to buy it for them

It is illegal for minors to buy alcohol, to attempt to buy it for minors, or for minors to consume alcohol in a public space in Ireland. Those under 18 may consume alcohol in a private residence when permission is given from a parent or guardian. It is illegal to purchase alcohol for anybody under the age of consent without permission from their guardians. One cannot purchase alcohol in a shop/off licence after 10 pm.[53]

but you aren't their parent or guardian nor do you have permission, so...

Emiko

I've been asked a few times by youngsters, 16/17, outside offies, to buy them drink, which I'd no problem doing.

Snakeblood

I wouldn't buy it for kids. They're kids would be the main reason. They act stupidly without booze, I don't see why allowing them to get into it young is ok.

Show Time

I just rob the money off them.

deman

nyarlthotepful wrote: »

I recently got caught by my mammy.
As I'm fully grown, I can't really get in trouble with my mam about this.

Fully grown??

Korvanica

I wonder why were you buying drink for her and her friends?

Angron

I get asked the odd time by kids, but I never do it. Mainly cause I'm bitter and vindictive and I don't want them to enjoy themselves with booze.

Minstrel27

I wouldn't buy it for them. They will need to use some imagination.

4leto

Never mind the morals, its the danger, with alcohol things have a tendency to happen and when they do it was you who bought it for them.

And that was spoken by a true hypocrite, I drank when I was underage and an older mate always got our supply. I wouldn't change any of that either,

Amalgam

I got a few slaps for refusing to buy drink. 4 on 1, nice. A busy shopping center, south Dublin. No one batted an eyelid.

I just stonewall now, walk straight past..

the_syco

Used to get drink for my mates bro (mate was in Galway at the time). I'd know who I was getting drink for, and would have a set place and time where I'd put the drink on the ground, and walk away.

A neighbour got me and my mate drink when we were 15, and started getting served in offies at 17. I started going to a pub called Kennys in Lucan when i was 17 (it had a strict over 23's policy at the time).

Nowadays, I just say no. If they REALLY don't get the message, I leave the €50 note half sticking out of the poor box, and tell them to take it back themselves.

CrazyRabbit

5 year olds are hilarious when drunk.

pickarooney

I bought alcohol for miners once. Spent a day getting ****-faced 100m underground with a bunch of Bolivians. Crazy day.

Horse_box

I started drinking at 15 and it was always a pain in the hole to get somone to into the offo. We always got it in the end though. Underage drinking was the happiest time of my life!

I'd have no bother going in for anyone over 16ish tbh, they will get it one way or the other

Brianderunner

Stupid doing it for strangers imo. Chances are the kids have been in the store minutes beforehand trying to buy exactly what they want you to buy and when you get to the counter they will know full well what is going on. All they need to do is look at the cctv from outside the shop and you're the one in hot water.

That being said i've no problem with 15/16 year olds drinking, i did it myself, got the older brother to buy it for me, it's all part of growing up.

kerry4sam

nyarlthotepful wrote: »

Is it wrong or right? I recently got caught by my mammy buying alcohol for my sister (who's 15) and some of her friends.
As I'm fully grown, I can't really get in trouble with my mam about this but I did question if I was doing the right thing. Have any of your siblings asked you for alcohol? I'm a sensible sort and drink in moderation and didn't drink while I was underage either and I can't really see the harm in it.

You say you're all grown up? You say you can't see the harm in buying alcohol for adolescents, yes adolescents (a.k.a. underage)! & some of whom you don't actually know what medical conditions they may or may not have. Do they drink in your presence or would you know what dangers they would be exposed to once under the influence and how vulnerable they would be?

This does happen, you're not alone in this; some under-age do get served drink in some bars; After-hours drinking does happen too - all illegal but why would you help them and encourage them to break the law at this age? You don't know how they would be thinking when they see they can get away with breaking this 1 law do you?

:mad: cop yourself on will you and act the grown-up you say you are! This absolutely riles me when I see people choosing which law they want to adhere to and which they think meh!

UglyBolloxFace

af_thefragile wrote: »

Its illegal...

Go figure...

That phrase. That ****ing phrase. I ****ing hate it.

pickarooney

Go figure. Wheeeeeeaaaa-whaaaaaw. The man with the minus touch.

4leto

This was a first, a few weeks ago I was asked by a kid of I would say about 13/14 would I buy cigarettes for him, "Here's the money they're for my da"..

I categorically said "no" and I was thinking about what type of Da he has if they were for him.