Americans

Dangerous Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKDPbCUdi8

Anybody else see what's wrong with this ad? See how many you can get!

Temptamperu

But most of those things aint american

starbelgrade

That thing is 33 seconds long.

Not sure I can spare the time.

Chris P. Bacon

Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with Mr Daniels?

Temptamperu

Chris P. Bacon wrote: »

Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with Mr Daniels?

Its not very nice to be fair.

//puts on flame retardent gear :pac:

rockmongrel

We live in a country that lets people make things they believe in.

Oh the hilarity.

That was ****ing painful to watch.

Chris P. Bacon

Temptamperu wrote: »

Its not very nice to be fair.

//puts on flame retardent gear :pac:

Are you gay or something?

El Weirdo

Chris P. Bacon wrote: »

Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with Mr Daniels?

There is. It's dishwater.

Chris P. Bacon

El Weirdo wrote: »

There is. It's dishwater.

No its not.

Temptamperu

Chris P. Bacon wrote: »

Are you gay or something?

Only somtimes... only somtimes

PseudoFamous

Motorbikes were invented by a German
Television was invented by either a German or a Scotsman
Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America
Jeans were invented by a Jewish German
Plumbing isn't exactly exclusively American
Mechanical Fans were invented in India
An Englishman devised the original radio apparatus
The Automobile was invented in France
Telephones were invented by a Scotsman
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, oddly enough
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

Dotrel

Dangerous Man wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKDPbCUdi8

Anybody else see what's wrong with this ad? See how many you can get!

The only bits that were wrong was everything he said and the pictures associated. He only had to mention the word Freedom for his error to be complete.

El Weirdo

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Motorbikes were invented by a German
Television was invented by either a German or a Scotsman
Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America
Jeans were invented by a Jewish German
Plumbing isn't exactly exclusively American
Mechanical Fans were invented in India
An Englishman devised the original radio apparatus
The Automobile was invented in France
Telephones were invented by a Scotsman
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, oddly enough
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

I'm thinking that that's the point of the advert. That the only truly American invention out of the lot of them is JD itself?

Mickeroo

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America

And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

Ara now in fairness JD is bourbon and the hats were all stetsons. :pac:

sunflower27

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Motorbikes were invented by a German
Television was invented by either a German or a Scotsman
Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America
Jeans were invented by a Jewish German
Plumbing isn't exactly exclusively American
Mechanical Fans were invented in India
An Englishman devised the original radio apparatus
The Automobile was invented in France
Telephones were invented by a Scotsman
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, oddly enough
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

Man, that was fast. Do you have people working for you?

Hank_Jones

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Motorbikes were invented by a German
Television was invented by either a German or a Scotsman
Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America
Jeans were invented by a Jewish German
Plumbing isn't exactly exclusively American
Mechanical Fans were invented in India
An Englishman devised the original radio apparatus
The Automobile was invented in France
Telephones were invented by a Scotsman
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, oddly enough
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

I'm wondering how long it took you to look that stuff up. :pac:

Kojak

America invented aliens, didn't they?

PseudoFamous

Hank_Jones wrote: »

I'm wondering how long it took you to look that stuff up. :pac:

I knew all of them except the radio and fans!

DjFlin

Just because America didnt invent that stuff doesnt mean JD can lie and tell people they did. Its called Marketing. Its just like how wearing Axe/Lynx makes people avoid you, but they SAY it makes women flock to you.

Jesus Wept

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Motorbikes were invented by a German
Television was invented by either a German or a Scotsman
Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America
Jeans were invented by a Jewish German
Plumbing isn't exactly exclusively American
Mechanical Fans were invented in India
An Englishman devised the original radio apparatus
The Automobile was invented in France
Telephones were invented by a Scotsman
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, oddly enough
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

Why do you hate freedom?

sunflower27

PseudoFamous wrote: »

I knew all of them except the radio and fans!

Yeaaaaaaah riiiiiiiiight!

Spread

sunflower27 wrote: »

Man, that was fast. Do you have people working for you?

Men I hope. As prostitution is a crime in most States. Nevada being one of those that have legalised it.:D

randylonghorn

El Weirdo wrote: »

I'm thinking that that's the point of the advert. That the only truly American invention out of the lot of them is JD itself?

Something like that all right.

He never actually said the American's invented any of the others ... but the pictures depict American examples / adaptations of them, e.g. stetsons, Ford Model T, etc.

Similarly, JD is a very typically American adaptation of whiskey.

Tongue-in-cheek, I reckon tbh.

sunflower27

Spread wrote: »

Men I hope. As prostitution is a crime in most States. Nevada being one of those that have legalised it.:D

I was imagining him in an office, shouting out: "Byrne, check who invented hats; O'Brien, you check jeans; Murphy check plumbing.... well... don't just look at me, DO IT, DO IT NOOOOOOW!!!"

Cavehill Red

PseudoFamous wrote: »

M
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

Total nonsense.

ascanbe

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Motorbikes were invented by a German
Television was invented by either a German or a Scotsman
Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America
Jeans were invented by a Jewish German
Plumbing isn't exactly exclusively American
Mechanical Fans were invented in India
An Englishman devised the original radio apparatus
The Automobile was invented in France
Telephones were invented by a Scotsman
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, oddly enough
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

And the inventor of basketball, James A. Naismeth,(a basket also features in this ad as a representation of quintessential Americana), was actually Canadian..
But that's not really the point.
The 'invention' of anything, results as leap of imagination/genius by an individual; and even then is somewhat based on work done by people down through the generations, many of whom toiled and, however unwittingly, ultimately laid the platform that made the 'invention' possible, before a time when the country the eventual inventor happens to be identified with was even dreamed up.
So, even though the circumstances forged by the reality of some countries have undoubtedly played a large part in the 'invention' of certain things, it's ultimately preposterous for any country to claim they actually 'invented' anything, just because the 'inventor' of that thing happened to hail from that country.
Of the things referred to in this advertisment, it can certainly be said that the existence of the USA has played a large role in their dissemination, development and popularity.

Overheal

It's sort of like pointing out we didn't invent Spaceflight either, but we did pretty much own it there for a good while.

I think the point of the ad wasn't about invention but creation: obviously motorcycles originated elsewhere, but where often are they usually hand-made? I think that's also why you see a depiction of a Hot Rod too.

Jeans were invented by a Jewish German

Yeah you can't walk past a guy wearing jeans without assuming he's Jewish, German - or both. Again, I think that's missing the point :P Jeans as clothing were made fashionable by American companies like Levi

You could also mention the Guitar originated from Asia/India but what does it matter? It was changed into something else by western culture. Similarly, Nobody claims that they invented beer (unless they're egyptian) but they like to take pride in crafting it. But speaking of that... lads in the video are the founders of Dogfish Head, an American micro-brewery. You can find some of their stuff in Dublin, check the store finder on their website.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

It's sort of like pointing out we didn't invent Spaceflight either, but we did pretty much own it there for a good while.

I think the point of the ad wasn't about invention but creation: obviously motorcycles originated elsewhere, but where often are they usually hand-made? I think that's also why you see a depiction of a Hot Rod too. Yeah you can't walk past a guy wearing jeans without assuming he's Jewish, German - or both. Again, I think that's missing the point :P Jeans as clothing were made fashionable by American companies like Levi

You could also mention the Guitar originated from Asia/India but what does it matter? It was changed into something else by western culture. Similarly, Nobody claims that they invented beer (unless they're egyptian) but they like to take pride in crafting it. But speaking of that... lads in the video are the founders of Dogfish Head, an American micro-brewery. You can find some of their stuff in Dublin, check the store finder on their website.

That's all fine and good but the ad uses words like "designers" "creators" "architects". Your points are good but the video isn't representing them.

Sonics2k

Overheal wrote: »

It's sort of like pointing out we didn't invent Spaceflight either, but we did pretty much own it there for a good while.

I think the point of the ad wasn't about invention but creation: obviously motorcycles originated elsewhere, but where often are they usually hand-made? I think that's also why you see a depiction of a Hot Rod too. Yeah you can't walk past a guy wearing jeans without assuming he's Jewish, German - or both. Again, I think that's missing the point :P Jeans as clothing were made fashionable by American companies like Levi

You could also mention the Guitar originated from Asia/India but what does it matter? It was changed into something else by western culture. Similarly, Nobody claims that they invented beer (unless they're egyptian) but they like to take pride in crafting it. But speaking of that... lads in the video are the founders of Dogfish Head, an American micro-brewery. You can find some of their stuff in Dublin, check the store finder on their website.

Dude...

losthorizon

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Motorbikes were invented by a German
Television was invented by either a German or a Scotsman
Hats probably existed before the original settlers even made it to America
Jeans were invented by a Jewish German
Plumbing isn't exactly exclusively American
Mechanical Fans were invented in India
An Englishman devised the original radio apparatus
The Automobile was invented in France
Telephones were invented by a Scotsman
Hamburgers are from Hamburg, oddly enough
And finally, Whiskey is from Iraq.

All very American, I'm sure.

Well, In fact it was Tesla who invented the Telephone not bell. He was Serbian who later took took out American citizenship. OMD had a song about him funnily enough.

Biggins

The building number at the start is 664 - does the chap with live two doors away from the Devil?

Haelium

Overheal wrote: »

It's sort of like pointing out we didn't invent Spaceflight either, but we did pretty much own it there for a good while.

I think the point of the ad wasn't about invention but creation: obviously motorcycles originated elsewhere, but where often are they usually hand-made? I think that's also why you see a depiction of a Hot Rod too. Yeah you can't walk past a guy wearing jeans without assuming he's Jewish, German - or both. Again, I think that's missing the point :P Jeans as clothing were made fashionable by American companies like Levi

You could also mention the Guitar originated from Asia/India but what does it matter? It was changed into something else by western culture. Similarly, Nobody claims that they invented beer (unless they're egyptian) but they like to take pride in crafting it. But speaking of that... lads in the video are the founders of Dogfish Head, an American micro-brewery. You can find some of their stuff in Dublin, check the store finder on their website.

So by making things popular it makes it their creation? You sound like the type of person who thinks that Apple are great innovators.

RichieC

rockmongrel wrote: »

Oh the hilarity.

That was ****ing painful to watch.

from the country that claims to have invented mom and apple pies...

Overheal

Haelium wrote: »

So by making things popular it makes it their creation? You sound like the type of person who thinks that Apple are great innovators.

You are then arguing that Claude Monet was not an inspring artist because he didn't invent the painting?

I am not so sure you understand the meaning of Creation in this context.

from the country that claims to have invented mom and apple pies...

Im not sure anybody ever did. Nor did Ireland invent the Potato, but it became associated with the Culture.

Naomi00

Overheal wrote: »

It's sort of like pointing out we didn't invent Spaceflight either, but we did pretty much own it there for a good while.

I think the point of the ad wasn't about invention but creation: obviously motorcycles originated elsewhere, but where often are they usually hand-made? I think that's also why you see a depiction of a Hot Rod too. Yeah you can't walk past a guy wearing jeans without assuming he's Jewish, German - or both. Again, I think that's missing the point :P Jeans as clothing were made fashionable by American companies like Levi

Lol
Levi Strauss invented jeans, hence the name.
And no, it was brands like Diesel who made jeans 'fashionable'.

Overheal

I stand corrected then.

Naomi00

None of those things are what comes to mind when you think of America...whoever made that ad is a bit deluded.

Even if it was meant to be tongue in cheek, I'd say most of the Americans who watch that would be too busy going 'omg we're so great blah blah blah' to even notice that they didn't invent any/most of those things.

Big Nasty

My read on it is that they 'perfected' many of these items and that in JD they also 'perfected' whiskey.

dpe

Loath as I am to stick up for Americans, nothing in that ad said Americans actually invented any of those things, but all of the actual products in the ad (Levis, Indian motorbike, Ford hotrod etc.) are American, and mostly iconically so.

TheZohanS

America invented freedom, and they saved all your asses in WW2, never forget that...ever.

Big Nasty

TheZohan wrote: »

America invented freedom, and they saved all your asses in WW2, never forget that...ever.

Am I having De Ja Vu or did you post something very similar to this on another thread yesterday?

Cú Giobach

TheZohan wrote: »

America invented freedom, and they saved all your asses in WW2, never forget that...ever.

Unfortunately they seem to have lost the instruction manual.

TheZohanS

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Am I having De Ja Vu or did you post something very similar to this on another thread yesterday?

Possibly.

losthorizon

TheZohan wrote: »

America invented freedom, and they saved all your asses in WW2, never forget that...ever.

You mean the USSR saved the world in WW2. And the Americans did not invent Democracy. The Nordic countrys. George Washington was a slave owner btw.

Apolloyon

TheZohan wrote: »

America invented freedom, and they saved all your asses in WW2, never forget that...ever.

I had all my donkeys shipped to Newfoundland during the Emergency. Safest place for them one way or another!

losthorizon

Apolloyon wrote: »

I had all my donkeys shipped to Newfoundland during the Emergency. Safest place for them one way or another!

get your asses back here now!

Big Nasty

TheZohan wrote: »

Possibly.

So I'm not gone mad!

America is great, long live America!

Ghost Buster

Whiskey or whisky is irish or Scottish depending on how you like your E....

Overheal

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Whiskey or whisky is irish or Scottish depending on how you like your E....

Jack Daniels, and most whiskeys from the region are typically Bourbon.

Robdude

Haters gonna hate...I can understand why people want to hate on the America. But there was nothing wrong with that commercial.

It showed things that many American's identify with. Things made by american companies. It didn't claim that American's "invented", exclusively, all of those things. And, truthfully, it's ridiculous to claim any of those modern inventions were invented by one person or one country.

Do you really think a modern cell phone is the same as the first telephone invented? Or that TVs haven't advanced and changed and been incrementally improved upon by many people?

Still, if you think the US hasn't played a major role in invention and innovation in it's short history you are being intentionally obtuse. And if you have a problem with that commercial, you're probably looking a little too hard for an argument.

Voodu Child

Overheal wrote: »

It's sort of like pointing out we didn't invent Spaceflight either, but we did pretty much own it there for a good while.

Thanks in no small part to ex-Nazi rocket scientists that America poached after the war :pac: