Blood, Sex and Violence

af_thefragile · 17-09-2011 2:58am #1

Today I made the mistake of watching 'A Serbian Film'. Once again curiosity got the better of me and now I feel my soul has been thoroughly raped and molested. If anyone of ye are feeling curious to watch it, all I'll say it don't, seriously don't. When you first start watching it, it's dark but it looks like a slightly more extreme and violent version of 8mm which you might think is not that bad. But by the time you've finished watching it, you only wish that you hadn't watched it. Its not something that shocks you instantly but more of it lingers at the back of your mind while your force yourself from recalling any memories of what you've just seen!

Anyway, this got me thinking about why we are so fascinated with such extreme violence and perversion? And it is something unique to us humans. You don't see animals partaking in such behaviour. Yes I know its just a movie and none of it is real but what makes the whole thing even more terrifying is that this movie is not the most violent and extreme movie made because far worse stuff exists out there (some of which is actually real) and when you think about the people who create it and buy it, you have to wonder what's wrong with their psychology?

Take for example the what happened in Auschwitz and more recently to a lesser degree in Abu Gharib prison and other such concentration camps and scenes of genocide, you wonder what is it that drives us humans to such levels of inhumanity and insanity which makes us commit such unthinkable actions towards another human being while at the same time gain some sort of an enjoyment and gratification from it.

AH is probably not the best place to discuss such a topic but as this is the most popular forum on here, I'ld like to know what the rest of the boardsies think of why we enjoy such mindless and extreme sex and violence and at times what drives us into partaking in such acts of madness? Why do we as humans enjoy it and keep doing it?

Tl;dr: A Serbian Film is a truly messed up film, stay well away from it cuz you'll only regret watching it and why are we humans so freaking messed up?!!

orourkeda · 17-09-2011 3:05am

Now we have to watch it.

longshanks · 17-09-2011 3:10am

Sometimes I think I've gotten the hang of using chopsticks. Then, a week later, and there are prawns flying all over the place. I have not mastered chopsticks.

Jesus Wept · 17-09-2011 3:14am

So Lee Harvey Oswald wanted to steal the Jack Ruby...

pragmatic1 · 17-09-2011 3:24am

Some people are bad. But most are fairly good.

Greentopia · 17-09-2011 3:30am

All boardsies enjoy mindless sex and violence? nope, not this one. I detest it. I heard about that film and others like it and have no cause to watch it after hearing about the contents.
What has been seen cannot be unseen and I don't want those images polluting my brain thank's.
The only reason I'd watch a film with any strong violence or torture in it would be because it comes with strong critical acclaim, like Oldboy for example.

James T Kirk · 17-09-2011 3:33am

You do realise that at least three more people are going to watch this film now, OP? :pac:

Xpsgamer · 17-09-2011 3:36am

LH Pathe · 17-09-2011 3:38am

all I saw was blood, sex and violence .. last poster james T. kirk. so what's this about then?

Xpsgamer · 17-09-2011 3:48am

I dunno, it sounds like a night out with a few Dublin girls

LH Pathe · 17-09-2011 3:54am

well.. the film is just depicting evil side of human nature right.. I don't like it to appear someone acting out their fantasy; sounds proper ott and gratituous

when's the rugby on?

barone · 17-09-2011 8:25pm

WHATS THE NAME OF THE FILM DAMMIT???

entropi · 17-09-2011 8:30pm

I've heard it described as cannibal porn...

that being said, I'd still watch it to see if it's in any way shocking and/or awesome.

barone...the name of the film is A Serbian Film.

Saila · 17-09-2011 8:34pm

An aging porn star agrees to participate in an "art film" in order to make a clean break from the business, only to discover that he has been drafted into making a pedophilia and necrophilia themed snuff film.

source

if this is what the sex is Ill pass thanks, if its a legal girl made to look young though I might watch?

17-09-2011 8:35pm

eh no i dont want to watch that thanks

Dangerous Man · 17-09-2011 8:37pm

It has been noted that some animals do appear to enjoy violence.

Cupcake_Crisis · 17-09-2011 8:37pm

Everything in A Serbian Film is really poorly executed, therefore its much harder to read about than it was to watch. I read the wiki and curiosity got the better of me......it's not pleasant, some utterly putrid ideas in it, but i've seen much, much bloodier and gorier in the cinema.

I still wouldn't recommend watching it though!

Saila · 17-09-2011 8:40pm

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

Everything in A Serbian Film is really poorly executed, therefore its much harder to read about than it was to watch. I read the wiki and curiosity got the better of me......it's not pleasant, some utterly putrid ideas in it, but i've seen much, much bloodier and gorier in the cinema.

I still wouldn't recommend watching it though!

SOLD! ffs thanks :rolleyes:

*shakes fist*

Cupcake_Crisis · 17-09-2011 8:43pm

Saila wrote: »

SOLD! ffs thanks :rolleyes:

*shakes fist*

You are welcome.

Herrick · 17-09-2011 8:45pm

From it's Wikipedia article...

Later, Vukmir shows Miloš another one of his projects: a film of Rasa helping a woman give birth to a baby girl; Rasa then proceeds to rape the newborn in what the director calls "newborn porn"

I actually feel like getting sick

bigwormbundoran · 17-09-2011 8:46pm

I actually quite liked A Serbian Film, once ya get past all the nastiness I found it to be a pretty decent thriller, maybe thats because im perverted though

Cupcake_Crisis · 17-09-2011 8:56pm

Herrick wrote: »

From it's Wikipedia article...
Later, Vukmir shows Miloš another one of his projects: a film of Rasa helping a woman give birth to a baby girl; Rasa then proceeds to rape the newborn in what the director calls "newborn porn"

I actually feel like getting sick

Thats the only really over the top bit! Absolutely gross

Fulton Crown · 17-09-2011 8:59pm

bigwormbundoran wrote: »

I actually quite liked A Serbian Film, once ya get past all the nastiness I found it to be a pretty decent thriller, maybe thats because im perverted though

Well...your from Bundoran...:rolleyes:

bigwormbundoran · 17-09-2011 9:00pm

Herrick wrote: »

From it's Wikipedia article...
Later, Vukmir shows Miloš another one of his projects: a film of Rasa helping a woman give birth to a baby girl; Rasa then proceeds to rape the newborn in what the director calls "newborn porn"

I actually feel like getting sick

I like the bit where

The protagonist escapes and is getting attacked in the alley, then the lad who was in that newborn scene kills the fellas attacking the main character, then proceeds to undo his trousers, but the maker of the movies stops him from riding the dead lads, found that quite funny I must say

krudler · 17-09-2011 9:00pm

awful film, and not awful in the way its trying desperately to be, its just awful. shocking for the sake of being shocking, any film that shows a newborn baby being raped (really) is struggling pretty hard in the gore pron stakes.

Cupcake_Crisis · 17-09-2011 9:01pm

Domo230 wrote: »

Is it worse than the human centipede?

The human centipede is brilliant!

LeixlipRed · 17-09-2011 9:02pm

My curiousity has been piqued, downloading it now. Doing nothing this evening so might as well. I won't eat before I watch though :eek:

17-09-2011 9:03pm

good lord i read the wiki page - i'm going to have to watch a LOT of lighthearted stuff to get that out of my brain
who the f* would make that disgusting stuff argh

Cupcake_Crisis · 17-09-2011 9:03pm

LeixlipRed wrote: »

My curiousity has been piqued, downloading it now. Doing nothing this evening so might as well. I won't eat before I watch though :eek:

Another one bites the dust

Nodin · 17-09-2011 9:03pm

LeixlipRed wrote: »

My curiousity has been piqued, downloading it now. Doing nothing this evening so might as well. I won't eat before I watch though :eek:

It's an allegory of recent Serbian history, apparently. I wouldn't sit through it meself though.

Saila · 17-09-2011 9:04pm

never got why people like horror so much, just more **** to come back and haunt you when you least expect it

especially if you ever do acid

I dont want to see anything with eye/dick gore thanks, almost anything else goes now, it wasnt that way for a long time for me though..
being scared does nothing for me, my imagination is enough and THAT good

strobe · 17-09-2011 9:04pm

Seen it. Meh.

I don't really get how anyone can find something like that shocking or disturbing. I mean it's not real (obviously, I guess). I found the scene out of Casino where Antony Spilotro and his brother are beaten to death to be deeply disturbing to me, but that actually happened. A Serbian Film is just horribly acted make believe. I can be moved to plenty of emotions by well made, well written, well acted movies but movies like this are funny if anything surely? Am I alone in feeling like this?

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 17-09-2011 9:05pm

Read about it, had to download it to satisfy my curiosity and turned it off before the end. Not because I was shocked or disgusted or couldn't watch, it was just really really bad. No story, no characters, it was about nothing but 'shock' and for me when such scenes are so unbelievable I can't even be shocked or moved. I just think "Stupid!"

landsleaving · 17-09-2011 9:07pm

strobe wrote: »

Seen it. Meh.

I don't really get how anyone can find something like that shocking or disturbing. I mean it's not real (obviously, I guess). I found the scene out of Casino where Antony Spilotro and his brother are beaten to death to be deeply disturbing to me, but that actually happened. A Serbian Film is just horribly acted make believe. I can be moved to plenty of emotions by well made, well written, well acted movies but movies like this are funny if anything surely? Am I alone in feeling like this?

Yes. Stop thinking, it's a movie. Look, Liam Neeson's daughter has been kidnapped by Jennifer Aniston, who just left her husband and hasn't been faring too well in the singles scene... until now. 5.

krudler · 17-09-2011 9:07pm

strobe wrote: »

Seen it. Meh.

I don't really get how anyone can find something like that shocking or disturbing. I mean it's not real (obviously, I guess). I found the scene out of Casino where Antony Spilotro and his brother are beaten to death to be deeply disturbing to me, but that actually happened. A Serbian Film is just horribly acted make believe. I can be moved to plenty of emotions by well made, well written, well acted movies but movies like this are funny if anything surely? Am I alone in feeling like this?

I'd be the same , something like Ralph Fiennes casually shooting at Jewish prisoners from his balcony in Schindlers List is far more chilling to me than Jigsaw putting peoples heads in bear traps and all that other sh1te that passes for horror these days.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 17-09-2011 9:07pm

strobe wrote: »

Seen it. Meh.

I don't really get how anyone can find something like that shocking or disturbing. I mean it's not real (obviously, I guess). I found the scene out of Casino where Antony Spilotro and his brother are beaten to death to be deeply disturbing to me, but that actually happened. A Serbian Film is just horribly acted make believe. I can be moved to plenty of emotions by well made, well written, well acted movies but movies like this are funny if anything surely? Am I alone in feeling like this?

Yeah but I wouldn't say funny, just sh1te
Some films are so bad they're funny but I wouldn't even give this one funny, it's like a few perves on a forum got together to make something and tried to pass it as art

landsleaving · 17-09-2011 9:08pm

Moshe Long Pacemaker wrote: »

it's like a few perves on a forum got together to make something and tried to pass it as art

That gives me an idea... pm sent

Nodin · 17-09-2011 9:09pm

Moshe Long Pacemaker wrote: »

/..........., it's like a few perves on a forum got together to make something and tried to pass it as art

AH - The Movie.....good jaysus....

Burky126 · 17-09-2011 9:10pm

Personally havent seen the movie itself but it seems to be one of those movies that you can approach from two sides 1) The social/political context of the movie - The national mentality of Serbia during the 90's or 2) Just a bunch of sick fooks behind a camera having great craic knowing that theyre going get a lot of notoriety.Ive heard both opinions - same when the human centipede came out which is all shock value really.Still,I'll prob end up watching it at some point soon.

Nodin · 17-09-2011 9:11pm

strobe wrote: »

Seen it. Meh.

I don't really get how anyone can find something like that shocking or disturbing. I mean it's not real (obviously, I guess). I found the scene out of Casino where Antony Spilotro and his brother are beaten to death to be deeply disturbing to me, but that actually happened. A Serbian Film is just horribly acted make believe. I can be moved to plenty of emotions by well made, well written, well acted movies but movies like this are funny if anything surely? Am I alone in feeling like this?

Some things freak people out, some don't. I've seen "Men Behind The Sun" and didn't think it was that bad, but theres others just can't sit through it.

Saila · 17-09-2011 9:11pm

strobe wrote: »

Seen it. Meh.

I don't really get how anyone can find something like that shocking or disturbing. I mean it's not real (obviously, I guess). I found the scene out of Casino where Antony Spilotro and his brother are beaten to death to be deeply disturbing to me, but that actually happened. A Serbian Film is just horribly acted make believe. I can be moved to plenty of emotions by well made, well written, well acted movies but movies like this are funny if anything surely? Am I alone in feeling like this?

Moshe Long Pacemaker wrote: »

Read about it, had to download it to satisfy my curiosity and turned it off before the end. Not because I was shocked or disgusted or couldn't watch, it was just really really bad. No story, no characters, it was about nothing but 'shock' and for me when such scenes are so unbelievable I can't even be shocked or moved. I just think "Stupid!"

on second thoughts Ill give it a miss, I would only be watching it to see how the scenes are edited to see how it the baby was done
is it more cut to your mans face front front shaking and holding a 'baby' or is it done well or

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 17-09-2011 9:11pm

Let's do it, we'd have knackers fighting the unemployed and Bertie would be a kingpin then Georgia Salpa would blast them all with piss until a masked Biggins came in to save the day but would we ever learn his identity?

LeixlipRed · 17-09-2011 9:14pm

I guess once you've watched Alien at 12 years old in the middle of the night and had night sweats for a month you're pretty much immune to anything. Movies like Alien are far more terrifying than movies that set out to shock and awe. Hostel for instance, that was just boring!

Cupcake_Crisis · 17-09-2011 9:16pm

Saila wrote: »

on second thoughts Ill give it a miss, I would only be watching it to see how the scenes are edited to see how it the baby was done
is it more cut to your mans face front front shaking and holding a 'baby' or is it done well or

You dont actually see the baby when its happening, you just hear it, but the cry is stomach turning

Saila · 17-09-2011 9:16pm

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I guess once you've watched Alien at 12 years old in the middle of the night and had night sweats for a month you're pretty much immune to anything. Movies like Alien are far more terrifying than movies that set out to shock and awe. Hostel for instance, that was just boring!

or TheFog, damn that gave me the creeps for years I live by the coast

klose · 17-09-2011 9:17pm

not as bad as the grifter though...

LeixlipRed · 17-09-2011 9:18pm

Haha, the Fog is such ****e, I love John Carpenter but The Thing is where he was at, not that rubbish :pac:

Crackle · 17-09-2011 9:18pm

Watched it a few months back and just thought it was a shíte film. The shocking for the sake of being shocking scenes only added to it's shíteness in my opinion.