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Troll sentenced to 18 weeks in prison.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Thats more cnutish then trolling in my books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    He looks like a troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Thats not trolling, thats just being a dick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    gavredking wrote: »
    Thats more cnutish then trolling in my books.

    True, it is actually worse than trolling. At least the trolls are just a pain in the hole. What this tool did is far worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    What was the point of that? Really? It's not because it's funny.

    He's sick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭ronan45


    You can be jailed for this?

    In any event creepy thing to be at! Idiot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    He's not your average internet troll. He's far worse - a deeply evil person.

    I hope he gets battered about in prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    He's not your average internet troll. He's far worse - a deeply evil person.

    I hope he gets battered about in prison.

    he'll get battered alright.


    with dicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Yer man's a tool alright, but the story about the young one throwing herself under a train because she was sent a hurtful message on the internet sounds a bit dubious. The media love these stories that shine a bad light on the internet. Reading that article you'd think that all the girl's problems were caused by the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    ****ing sicko..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    nice to put a face to the troll, psychopath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Not a Troll, just a sick, friendless little kunt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    What a strange little man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    tubby little git too calling that young girl a tank engine... must be projecting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    was he sent to the boards prison...?

    If he was sent there he will definitely be battered with dicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Shame those Westboro Church loons couldn't get the same sort of punishment....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    It's fcukers like him that should be fed to lions.

    the heartless bas*ard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Thats not trolling, thats just being a dick.

    Members of Anonymous do similar ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    I have to say from reading that and other related articles about the theme, whatever about that cretin, the images of such a beautiful young girl with so much potential in front of her, driven to take her own life is truly shocking. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Her mother, Jane, who is separated from Natasha's father, said her daughter would print out lyrics of songs and put them on her bedroom wall.
    One song, Bruno Mars' Grenade contained the line "I'd jump in front of a train for you".
    In a statement, her family said: "We believe that the evocative lyrics of one of her favourite songs, Grenade by Bruno Mars, coupled with access to certain websites suggesting such actions, caused her to make such a sudden drastic and uncharacteristic decision.


    :confused::eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Blaming song lyrics.
    Makes a change from blaming video games I suppose

    Of course bad parenting wasn't to blame, no no no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    Did you read that KeithAFC, you could be looking at a life sentence!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    mikemac wrote: »
    Blaming song lyrics.
    Makes a change from blaming video games I suppose

    Of course bad parenting wasn't to blame, no no no

    What leads you to think that bad parenting might have been involved here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    mikemac wrote: »
    Blaming song lyrics.
    Makes a change from blaming video games I suppose

    Of course bad parenting wasn't to blame, no no no

    I don't think they're blaming the song. They're just saying where she got the idea for her method of suicide.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    So we have a legally enforceable right-to-not-be-offended now.

    The guy was a bit of an asshole but people need to grow thicker skin. Soon enough you literally won't be able to say anything because it'll offended someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    I don't think they're blaming the song. They're just saying where she got the idea for her method of suicide.

    because before that, she had no idea that jumping in front of a train was dangerous?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    So we have a legally enforceable right-to-not-be-offended now.

    The guy was a bit of an asshole but people need to grow thicker skin. Soon enough you literally won't be able to say anything because it'll offended someone.
    I'm not sure if you're trolling but desecrating the memory of someone's loved one for pleasure suggests there's probably something very wrong with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Columbia


    So we have a legally enforceable right-to-not-be-offended now.

    The guy was a bit of an asshole but people need to grow thicker skin. Soon enough you literally won't be able to say anything because it'll offended someone.

    Anyone who actually believes this kind of s***e needs help. We're not talking about some politically correct bullcrap here, we're talking about a 15-year-old girl who took her own life, and the sick piece of crap that has caused emotional distress to her shattered family.

    Screw your head on, and stop looking for thanks from the overzealous free-speech brigade on AH.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    So we have a legally enforceable right-to-not-be-offended now.

    The guy was a bit of an asshole but people need to grow thicker skin. Soon enough you literally won't be able to say anything because it'll offended someone.
    Actually for the record, under the Irish law of non-fatal Offences Against The Person Act 1997, it is an offence for a person without legal excuse, by any means to harass another by persistent actions, additionally also while in communication.
    Harass is defined as means to act intentionally or recklessly towards the other person in such a way as to seriously interfere with his/her peace and privacy also, or to cause alarm, harm or distress.

    ...And this has alone, been on the Irish state laws since 1997.
    I assume England as something somewhat similar - and thats just one law relating to this matter!

    I should add that this is related to non-fatal acts. Should the outcome of the above lead to graver outcomes, i.e. deaths, greater and stronger laws kick further in so see that justice be done.

    Bullying and intimidation upon the person - by ANY means is still unwarranted bullying and intimidation!
    ...And you can be held accountable for ones actions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,691 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    FFS, Cyber Crime, Virtual people and virtual idiots listening to them. You shouldn't be punished for any crime that's not based in the real world.

    She threw herself under a train because of what someone posted online, christ people take people on the internet way to seriously, only one thing to do, ban anyone under 18 from the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    FFS, Cyber Crime, Virtual people and virtual idiots listening to them. You shouldn't be punished for any crime that's not based in the real world.

    She threw herself under a train because of what someone posted online, christ people take people on the internet way to seriously, only one thing to do, ban anyone under 18 from the internet.

    So fraud, kiddie porn, threats of murder, virus, hacking and stealing info and a multitude of other stuff shouldnt be prosecutable because its all done online ?

    Things done in the virtual world influence the real world. In this case they caused untold torment to the grieving parents of a 15 year old suicide victim. Its no different than him standing outside a memorial service shouting abuse at people coming and going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    I agree that there should be freedom of speech on the web, but trolling and harassing are different beasts. Trolls need a ban, harassers need a dose of prison. It's 18 weeks - he shoudlnt get hooked on crack or bumraped in that time with any luck - but he will realise his mistake, that's for bloody sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gargleblaster


    The poor girl may have had mental or emotional issues. We can't just ban sensitive people from having feelings. Wherever they're bullied, the bullying has to be addressed. Prosecuting people who take bullying behavior to such extremes as this man did is one possible way of addressing it.

    Also, this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    Skunkle wrote: »
    Its no different than him standing outside a memorial service shouting abuse at people coming and going.

    Good point..

    However I wonder, would he have gotten 18 weeks in prison if he was doing this outside a memorial?

    The guys clearly a freak anyway, delighted he got the time he got. I'm all for taking the piss but what he was at was just vicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Teangalad


    FFS, Cyber Crime, Virtual people and virtual idiots listening to them. You shouldn't be punished for any crime that's not based in the real world.

    She threw herself under a train because of what someone posted online, christ people take people on the internet way to seriously, only one thing to do, ban anyone under 18 from the internet.


    did you actually engage your brain before you posted this ****e??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    Good point..

    However I wonder, would he have gotten 18 weeks in prison if he was doing this outside a memorial?

    The guys clearly a freak anyway, delighted he got the time he got. I'm all for taking the piss but what he was at was just vicious.

    I didnt see the videos he posted but according to sky news they were too graphical and disgusting to show. I assume if he set up a tv outside the service with his sick videos showing he would most certainly have gotten an 18 week sentence at the least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    goose2005 wrote: »
    I don't think they're blaming the song. They're just saying where she got the idea for her method of suicide.

    because before that, she had no idea that jumping in front of a train was dangerous?

    Did I say that or are you just being stupid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭texidub


    Awful things that he did, but I'm surprised that nobody has yet pointed out that he suffers from Asperger's Syndrome, so the story might not be as morally black and white as some would like to make it out to be.

    Then again AH is pretty unforgiving and these threads are often just an excuse for people to moralise viciously about the actions of others (blind to all the ironies involved, such as, for example, posting insults on the Internet directed at a guy who just got jailed for posting insulting material on the Internet.)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    texidub wrote: »
    Awful things that he did, but I'm surprised that nobody has yet pointed out that he suffers from Asperger's Syndrome, so the story might not be as morally black and white as some would like to make it out to be.

    Then again AH is pretty unforgiving and these threads are often just an excuse for people to moralise viciously about the actions of others (blind to all the ironies involved, such as, for example, posting insults on the Internet directed at a guy who just got jailed for posting insulting material on the Internet.)

    We can or should assume that his defense team put this forth as even a partial defense and that subsequently the presiding sentencing judge, allowed for this (or not), gave it consideration at least and eventually after hearing further advice and informative independent matter and assessments, decided as to the outcome that there was eventually.
    Thus the sentence that he got.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gargleblaster


    texidub wrote: »
    Awful things that he did, but I'm surprised that nobody has yet pointed out that he suffers from Asperger's Syndrome, so the story might not be as morally black and white as some would like to make it out to be.

    Then again AH is pretty unforgiving and these threads are often just an excuse for people to moralise viciously about the actions of others (blind to all the ironies involved, such as, for example, posting insults on the Internet directed at a guy who just got jailed for posting insulting material on the Internet.)

    Yes, because calling someone nasty names on a forum post is exactly the same as making a facebook page for the express purpose of harassing someone.

    Also I didn't know that being so hateful and obnoxious as this guy was could be considered just a symptom of Asperger's syndrome. I'm surprised by that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭texidub


    Absolutely. However, while a judge's decision might be legally binding and final, I don't consider judges to be the final arbitrators of right and wrong. Never trust a man in a wig :D

    Nevertheless, my point is that the case is not simply black and white and that a little forgiveness goes a long way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    texidub wrote: »
    ...my point is that the case is not simply black and white and that a little forgiveness goes a long way.
    ...And having a possible medical condition, also does not disqualify a person from being judged either and held accountable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    texidub wrote: »
    Awful things that he did, but I'm surprised that nobody has yet pointed out that he suffers from Asperger's Syndrome, so the story might not be as morally black and white as some would like to make it out to be.

    Then again AH is pretty unforgiving and these threads are often just an excuse for people to moralise viciously about the actions of others (blind to all the ironies involved, such as, for example, posting insults on the Internet directed at a guy who just got jailed for posting insulting material on the Internet.)

    As Biggin said (I think) the sentencing judge would have taken everything into consideration when sentencing him. If the judge saw fit to hand down an 18 week sentence despite his condition then I assume that the acts were not entirely due to his condition and therefore his condition did not influence (or not entirely perhaps if he didnt have the condition the sentence would have been longer) the sentencing. This thread isnt an excuse to moralise about the actions of this guy but more to discuss the result of those actions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    He probably got a lighter sentance because of his assburgers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    That poor family. I can only imagine how angry I would be if someone posted stuff like that on a page for someone I knew.

    Maybe 18 weeks is harsh, but I hope it makes other people think twice before doing something like that in future!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭whatsamsn


    Maybe 18 weeks is harsh, but I hope it makes other people think twice before doing something like that in future!

    I think 18 weeks isnt harsh. F*ck him. Its evil what he did. Would be funny if he got rode in prision too .. would serve him right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I agree that the guy was a dick, no question there. And I have no sympathy for him.

    However, under what law was he charged? If it was harassment I'm cool with that, but I can't abide any specific restrictions on the concept of freedom of speech. It's a horrific slippery slope once you start restricting what people are allowed to write online.

    Harassment would be different if he was directly harassing the people involved via email or by spamming their pages. However, if he was posting the stuff on his OWN YouTube channel, I find it hard to see how he could be prosecuted without admitting that freedom of speech no longer exists...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭GrizzlyMan


    What a horrible f*cker!:mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...Harassment would be different if he was directly harassing the people involved via email or by spamming their pages. However, if he was posting the stuff on his OWN YouTube channel, I find it hard to see how he could be prosecuted without admitting that freedom of speech no longer exists...?
    I'm personally assessing that (from the info available) he was posting direct onto memorial sites - sites set-up by the families themselves to communicate their loss and grieve.
    If he was doing this, he was entering through his own volition into a form of (abusive) communication to the family persons direct - and not just into an open public forum in what can be called the normal public domain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/memorial-cyber-bully-sent-prison-131225378.html

    what do you think about this. What he did was horrible. He is obviously a sick human being. What I don't understand, however, is this not infringing on his right of free speech. When you look at groups such as the west borough baptist church who actively do this type of thing all of the time. why are they allowed away with it?


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