Handbook for US students coming to Dublin *rolleyes*

amdublin

Oh sweet Jesus

http://www.eusa-edu.com/sites/europe/dublin/arrival-handbook/welcome/307-irish-life-and-culture.html

http://www.eusa-edu.com/sites/europe/dublin/arrival-handbook/welcome/308-irish-slang-translated.html

Is there an equivalent for Irish students going to America or do we just get on with it and manage to survive? :rolleyes:

cml387

amdublin wrote: »

Oh sweet Jesus

http://www.eusa-edu.com/sites/europe/dublin/arrival-handbook/welcome/307-irish-life-and-culture.html

http://www.eusa-edu.com/sites/europe/dublin/arrival-handbook/welcome/308-irish-slang-translated.html

Is there an equivalent for Irish students going to America or do we just get on with it and manage to survive? :rolleyes:

No there isn't. Which means that many irish students are surprised when they find that mangling their passports is not met with an"Ah sure your gas" response in the USA.

Anita Blow

Whats wrong with it? Just read the first one and it seems fine

amacachi

come here to me : invitation to confidential chat or gossip

Heh.

rossie1977

the slang word page is a good idea

El Weirdo

Have to say that I don't see much wrong with that. I was expecting it to be really cringe-worthy or patronising but it isn't.

Have you never bought a guide book when going on holiday, OP? Or do you just head straight for the Irish bar and spend the week there?

Biggins

I don't see much of a problem with either - if any!
Maybe I missed something!

Red Hand

To be fair, the Irish are going to be more familiar with American customs in the USA that Americans with Irish customs in Ireland due to media etc.

Ireland's a small place.

My name is URL

The entire 'Meeting People' section is pub related.

Buying a coffee or a soda is not socially frowned upon

Well that itself

Are you another one of those Irish people who expects the whole world to know everything about Ireland without needing to be told?

woodoo

The bit about refusing tea a few times is a bit father ted.

Logical Fallacy

Red Hand wrote: »

Ireland's a small place.

No it's not, we have just been the victim of biased cartographers.

Mike 1972

amdublin wrote: »

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Is there an equivalent for Irish students going to America or do we just get on with it and manage to survive? :rolleyes:

Just about any travel book will have a section on the relevant country dispensing similar advice.

Hopefully more accurate though.

FGR

Slang Site wrote: »

knacker : derogatory term for an urban working class person, especially from Dublin; avoid using this term.

Needs clarification?

Teutorix

bender : heavy drinking session or a derogatory remark referring to homosexuality

fag : cigarette or a derogatory remark referring to homosexuality

Turtwig

I lol'd at this one.

ride : to have sex; ask for a lift if you want transportation

marcsignal

amdublin wrote: »

http://www.eusa-edu.com/sites/europe/dublin/arrival-handbook/welcome/308-irish-slang-translated.html

Some funny ones in there

knacker : derogatory term for an urban working class person, especially from Dublin; avoid using this term.

or get a broken glass in the face

Teutorix

Teutorix wrote: »

fag : cigarette or a derogatory remark referring to homosexuality

In Ireland? What kind of American-wannabes are you hanging around with? In Ireland, a fag is a cigarette.

amdublin

El Weirdo wrote: »

Have to say that I don't see much wrong with that. I was expecting it to be really cringe-worthy or patronising but it isn't.

Have you never bought a guide book when going on holiday, OP? Or do you just head straight for the Irish bar and spend the week there?

Antonio CoolS Spokesman wrote: »

Are you another one of those Irish people who expects the whole world to know everything about Ireland without needing to be told?

No but when I go abroad I manage to adapt and integrate pretty quick...

I remembered first time going to the states and saying cinema instead of movie and the other students looking like I was mad. I explained that I refered to movies as cinema and they looked at me like I was even madder.

So I called it a movie from then on......Even though I felt like a bit of a ponce with my Dublin accent "would we go the movies tonight?". "maybe we could go see a movie?".

Cicero

woodoo wrote: »

The bit about refusing tea a few times is a bit father ted.

you mustn't have had an Irish mammy so...:p

amdublin

amdublin wrote: »

No but when I go abroad I manage to adapt and integrate pretty quick...

I remembered first time going to the states and saying cinema instead of movie and the other students looking like I was mad. I explained that I refered to movies as cinema and they looked at me like I was even madder.

So I called it a movie from then on......Even though I felt like a bit of a ponce with my Dublin accent "would we go the movies tonight?". "maybe we could go see a movie?".

An Irish person adapting to American slang (which they grew up hearing their whole life) is very different to an American adapting to Irish slang. When I first moved to Dublin, I couldn't believe how many different expressions I'd never heard before and I was only coming from the UK.

Leftyflip

Surely they have that in the States?

hiya : hi there

amdublin

Antonio CoolS Spokesman wrote: »

An Irish person adapting to American slang (which they grew up hearing their whole life) is very different to an American adapting to Irish slang. When I first moved to Dublin, I couldn't believe how many different expressions I'd never heard before and I was only coming from the UK.

But I assume you picked them all up pretty quick?

Red Hand

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

No it's not, we have just been the victim of biased cartographers.

They must have a particular grudge against Louth so.

Antonio CoolS Spokesman wrote: »

In Ireland? What kind of American-wannabes are you hanging around with? In Ireland, a fag is a cigarette.

I've heard it a few times here in that context, too. We are morphing!

johngalway

"What’s the hurry?

They may be walking fast, but they probably took an indirect route or stopped for a chat, because Irish people are late for everything. Anything up to 25 minutes late is considered “on time.” However, if you’re American, they know you’ll be on time, so they notice if you’re even a few minutes late."

:pac:

FinnLizzy

We’re not just talking about volume - although compared to Americans, Irish people practically whisper - but being indirect. For example, Irish people will typically turn down a cup of tea when offered (even if they’re dying for a “cuppa”) two or three times before they finally accept - they’d consider it a bit rude and abrupt to accept on the first offer.

Very true, and funny that it had to be an american website to pick up on it.

amdublin

amdublin wrote: »

But I assume you picked them all up pretty quick?

Most of them, but to be honest, I still realise from time to time that an expression doesn't mean what I assumed it meant. And I'm half Irish and went to secondary school in Northern Ireland. There are lots of differences in the slang, with some words meaning one thing in NI and another in Dublin (and sometimes, another in England). Why would you think it was odd to provide a guide for Americans who have never been exposed to anything Irish?

amdublin

Antonio CoolS Spokesman wrote: »

Most of them, but to be honest, I still realise from time to time that an expression doesn't mean what I assumed it meant. And I'm half Irish and went to secondary school in Northern Ireland. There are lots of differences in the slang, with some words meaning one thing in NI and another in Dublin (and sometimes, another in England). Why would you think it was odd to provide a guide for Americans who have never been exposed to anything Irish?

I don't think it's odd......but I think this particular guide is funny (ha ha) as do some others on this thread it seems.

Jaysis you obviously just don't get the Irish sense of humour being English

Red Hand

amdublin wrote: »

I don't think it's odd......but I think this particular guide is funny (ha ha) as do some others on this thread it seems.

Jaysis you obviously just don't get the Irish sense of humour being English

Oh oh....big mistake. Be prepared for backlash.

novarock

Having worked with amercian students that moved over here for a term i would say that guide is not bad, in fact most of what is in it we had to say to them in the time they were here. In fact the lonely planet guides would outline the very same thing.

amdublin

Red Hand wrote: »

Oh oh....big mistake. Be prepared for backlash.

But....but....but I put a smiley face


:eek:

So all is okay, no?!

El Weirdo

come here to me : invitation to confidential chat or gossip

amacachi wrote: »

Heh.

What?! Have you never heard of the comedic colossus that is Jimmy Cricket?

Zillah

FinnLizzy wrote: »

Very true, and funny that it had to be an american website to pick up on it.

That actually pisses me off a lot. I usually don't want the tea and have to spend five minutes trying to get them to shut up.

amdublin

amdublin wrote: »

I don't think it's odd......but I think this particular guide is funny (ha ha) as do some others on this thread it seems.

Jaysis you obviously just don't get the Irish sense of humour being English

Well, I suppose this explains the popularity of certain Irish 'comedians'. Oh look, some Yanks are explaining our slang with definitions and all, har har har. :rolleyes: I don't see why it's funny at all. Looks like a decent enough guide to me. I saw plenty of similar ones for Irish people heading to the States.

Duddy

They may be walking fast, but they probably took an indirect route or stopped for a chat, because Irish people are late for everything. Anything up to 25 minutes late is considered “on time.”

....what?
Is this actually true? Is this the reason I'm always the ****ing first one there?!

However, if you’re American, they know you’ll be on time, so they notice if you’re even a few minutes late

o_0


Germans maybe, but Americans?

amdublin

Antonio CoolS Spokesman wrote: »

I saw plenty of similar ones for Irish people heading to the States.

That's what I was asking in my op

Can you post one please!

Carlos Orange

Duddy wrote: »

....what?
Is this actually true? Is this the reason I'm always the ****ing first one there?!



o_0


Germans maybe, but Americans?

I have always secretly suspected I was not really Irish. I guess this proves it.

amdublin

amdublin wrote: »

That's what I was asking in my op

Can you post one please!

They were hard copies and I threw them away about 5 years ago, but I'm sure a Google search will find something.

markesmith

chuffed, fit, naff, nosh, pinch, prat, skive, snog, ta

Obviously applies to Dublin only :rolleyes:

Sounds like a World War 1 British working-class slang manual

funk-you

markesmith wrote: »

chuffed, fit, naff, nosh, pinch, prat, skive, snog, ta

Obviously applies to Dublin only :rolleyes:

Sounds like a World War 1 British working-class slang manual

Well the first page does say "Welcome to Dublin"...

-Funk

Paparazzo

I think it has some good info in there. Some Irish people could learn from the bit on rounds.

Zillah wrote: »

That actually pisses me off a lot. I usually don't want the tea and have to spend five minutes trying to get them to shut up.

As Father Ted saus, it's far easier just to accept it.

gypsy_rose

Teutorix wrote: »

bender : heavy drinking session or a derogatory remark referring to homosexuality

fag : cigarette or a derogatory remark referring to homosexuality

Bender they probably wouldn't know, but they definitly would think of fag as in gay and not know it also means a cigarette. Americans know fags means gay, just go onto youtube and see all the "lol fag" posts!

Son Of A Vidic

What's the problem OP? The first guide said it like it is. As I've always said, Dublin is a large town with embarrassing high notions of itself unfortunately. They should have included a section on vaccinations they need for Dublin though.

strobe

markesmith wrote: »

chuffed, fit, naff, nosh, pinch, prat, skive, snog, ta

Obviously applies to Dublin only :rolleyes:

Sounds like a World War 1 British working-class slang manual

Having lived in Dublin most of my 26 years I can say I have never heard skive, prat, snog, fit, nosh or naff used in common speech.

:rolleyes:

Aishae

strobe wrote: »

markesmith wrote: »

chuffed, fit, naff, nosh, pinch, prat, skive, snog, ta

Obviously applies to Dublin only :rolleyes:

Sounds like a World War 1 British working-class slang manual

Having lived in Dublin most of my 26 years I can say I have never heard skive, prat, snog, fit, nosh or naff used in common speech.

:rolleyes:

Snog has died a bit. Its 'shift' for young uns these days. Its a fair enough guide. But funny. Reads pretty much like most travel guides I've used

Monty Burnz

El Weirdo wrote: »

Have to say that I don't see much wrong with that. I was expecting it to be really cringe-worthy or patronising but it isn't.

Have you never bought a guide book when going on holiday, OP? Or do you just head straight for the Irish bar and spend the week there?

Executive summary:

Pub

Pub

Talk

Pub

Gob****e

Knacker

Bender

Pub

Pub

Killer Wench

amdublin wrote: »

Oh sweet Jesus

http://www.eusa-edu.com/sites/europe/dublin/arrival-handbook/welcome/307-irish-life-and-culture.html

http://www.eusa-edu.com/sites/europe/dublin/arrival-handbook/welcome/308-irish-slang-translated.html

Is there an equivalent for Irish students going to America or do we just get on with it and manage to survive? :rolleyes:

You mean like the four that tried to alter their passports just so they could be alcohol?

the_syco

gypsy_rose wrote: »

Teutorix wrote: »

bender : heavy drinking session or a derogatory remark referring to homosexuality

fag : cigarette or a derogatory remark referring to homosexuality

Bender they probably wouldn't know, but they definitly would think of fag as in gay and not know it also means a cigarette. Americans know fags means gay, just go onto youtube and see all the "lol fag" posts!

"Going out back to smoke a fag" may mean something else in America ^.^

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

What's the problem OP? The first guide said it like it is. As I've always said, Dublin is a large town with embarrassing high notions of itself unfortunately. They should have included a section on vaccinations they need for Dublin though.

The problem is that they haven't found a similar guide for the Irish going to the USA;

amdublin wrote: »

Antonio CoolS Spokesman wrote: »

I saw plenty of similar ones for Irish people heading to the States.

That's what I was asking in my op

Can you post one please!

Sid_Justice

very solid guide, no faults.

Aodan83

Seems like a good idea, there have been times when I've just been in a different county and some phrase has thrown me for six. Don't think I've seen one going the other way, though I doubt it's as necessary. We tend to be exposed to Americanisms more than the other way round.

chickenbutt

I did that EUSA program and those guides may have a lot of obvious information in them, but they're very helpful especially to the students who've never been to Ireland or even had the opportunity to travel abroad before. Don't knock 'em.