Your Team To Play Australia

theboss80

Mine would be


Healy
Best
Ross

DOC
POC

Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
ROG

Trimble
McFadden
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

Bench: Court , Flannery , Cullen , Jennings , Murray , Sexton , Earls

mrboswell

I'd go with that.

chris85

theboss80 wrote: »

Mine would be


Healy
Best
Ross

DOC
POC

Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
ROG

Trimble
McFadden
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

Bench: Court , Flannery , Cullen , Jennings , Murray , Sexton , Earls

Close to that:

Healy
Flannery
Ross

DOC
POC

O'Brien
Ferris
Heaslip

Reddan
ROG

Trimble
McFadden
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

thomond2006

Healy, Best, Ross, DOC, POC, Ferris, SOB, Heaslip;
Murray, Sexton, Trimble, McFadden, BOD, Bowe, Kearney

Bench: Flannery, Court, Cullen, Jennings, Reddan, ROG, Earls

While they didn't distinguish themselves, I don't think Murray and Sexton are the problem with the Irish team. We can't keep chopping and changing our halfbacks so I say we keep faith in those two. I think Sexton will kick far less against the Wallabies.

I thought Earls was alright against USA but Trimble is the form player.

I really don't think it will matter anyway, I can't see Ireland winning.

tolosenc

Healy
Best
Ross
Cullen
O'Connell
Ferris
Jennings
O'Brien
Boss
Sexton
Trimble
McFadden
O'Driscoll
Bowe
Murphy

Flannery, Court, O'Callaghan, Heaslip, Reddan, O'Gara, Wallace

The Aussie

1, your man who drinks at the end of the bar in Jacks.
2, his mate who spends most of the night in the jacks.
3, Mary who always sits in the last Pew for the quick get away after Sunday Mass.

Who cares, the real question is, does Ireland deserve to get out of the pool, if this was X Factor it would be 4 people saying NO!!!!!

danthefan

I don't even care who starts. We're going to get humped regardless.

chris85

danthefan wrote: »

I don't even care who starts. We're going to get humped regardless.

Well the thread is for people who wish to put what team they want to see starting. Unless you have something constructive to add i suggest going to AH.

thomond2006

chris85 wrote: »

Well the thread is for people who wish to put what team they want to see starting. Unless you have something constructive to add i suggest going to AH.

I don't think that's fair tbh, not caring who starts is a valid opinion.

Iron Hide

Healy, Best, Ross, DOC, POC, Ferris, Jennings, SOB
Reddan, Sexton, Earls, McFadden, BOD, Bowe, Kearney.

Subs: Flannery, Court, Cullen, Heaslip, Murray, ROG, Trimble.

I'd give Jennings another shot he did manage to exert a little bit of control at ruck time, and hopefully relegating Heaslip to the bench will force him to play like a man demented when he comes on.

Big ask of McFadden to dive in against Oz but anything is better than D'arcy at the moment ( We could do with having a 100kg+ basher of a center a la Jamie Roberts IMO,)

Hagz

1. Healy
2. Best
3. Ross
4. DOC
5. POC
6. Ferris
7. SOB
8. Heaslip
9. Reddan
10. O'Gara
11. Trimble
12. D'arcy
13. BOD
14. Bowe
15. Kearney

16. Flannery
17. Court
18. Cullen
19. Jennings
20. Boss
21. Sexton
22. Earls

maddragon

Patrick Sarsfield
Brian Boru
Niall of the Nine hostages
St Brendan
Finn McCool
Hugh O'Neill
Silken Thomas
Wolfe Tone
Robert Emmet
Cathal Brugha
Tom Barry
Sean Lemass
Jim Larkin
Kelly the boy from Kilane
Michael Collins

I particularly like Lemass at outhalf as he had good form in changing the course of a game. Tinkered with putting in James Connolly as an impact dub from the bench but his injury record comes against him.

jacothelad

Healy ..
Best
Ross...No other choice

DOC
POC

Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
Sexton

Trimble
McFadden
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

Bench: Court , Flannery , Cullen , Jennings , Boss , ROG, Earls

I thought Murray was average to dross during the game. I watched it again this afternoon - masochism really - and I have to say he was pretty awful. Poor options, bad passes, slow getting the ball away, knocking on, slow getting to rucks. His main ploy is simply to look for POC and shovel the ball to him even when he is in totally the wrong place. He may become a good player but he isn't one yet. Instead of playing Murray with ROG and Sexton with Reddan or Boss he does neither.

Jennings was our top tackler by the way.

We won't win any Oz lineout ball because we don't challenge and only POC is athletic enough of our likely second rows to actually get off the ground quickly. I would have given Cullen at least 30 minutes today alongside POC. Cullen is a far better lineout player than DOC. Instead we had DOC and POC playing the full game and the dull and talent free Ryan scratching his plums on the bench. He won't add anything different and brings considerably less.

Instead of taking off Earls to give Trimble a run, he put Trimble at full back in place of G.M. Smart move that.

Then we had the drivel at the end from Kidney. Blaming the weather and the fact that we dominated the set pieces for not playing any rugby. Is he completely off his trolley? Getting positives out of missing penalties because we than didn't have to face kick - offs from the mighty USA. Does he think we are a bunch of brain damaged window lickers? The man is either a wonderful con artist who is lulling Oz and Italy and us into a false sense of superiority and has a bagful of tricks up his sleeve. OR. He is a total fraud, completely over his head and is lulling them into a true sense of superiority. We'll soon find out. If he has been ordering the players to keep the game plan secret, they have been doing it for 2 years.

durkadurka

Mine would be


Healy
Fla
Ross

DOC
POC

Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
Sexton

Trimble
McFadden
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

Bench: Court , best , Cullen , Jennings , Murray , ROG , Earls

tolosenc

Anyone else considering calling up Richard Dunne?

Hermy

danthefan wrote: »

I don't even care who starts. We're going to get humped regardless.

That's the attitude we need. A bit more of this and underdog status will be reinstated thus guaranteeing a great performance.

exaisle

maddragon wrote: »

Patrick Sarsfield
Brian Boru
Niall of the Nine hostages
St Brendan
Finn McCool
Hugh O'Neill
Silken Thomas
Wolfe Tone
Robert Emmet
Cathal Brugha
Tom Barry
Sean Lemass
Jim Larkin
Kelly the boy from Kilane
Michael Collins

I particularly like Lemass at outhalf as he had good form in changing the course of a game. Tinkered with putting in James Connolly as an impact dub from the bench but his injury record comes against him.

Nah...you cant play Wolfe Tone in the back row...he doesnt have the head for the big occasion...and you can't have James Connolly...he's ineligible as he was born in Scotland.
I'd have Charlie Haughey on the wing..nobody would ever catch him.

danthefan

chris85 wrote: »

Well the thread is for people who wish to put what team they want to see starting. Unless you have something constructive to add i suggest going to AH.

Don't tell other people how to post, honestly. I don't care what you think. If you're so upset hit the report button.

Hermy wrote: »

That's the attitude we need. A bit more of this and underdog status will be reinstated thus guaranteeing a great performance.

It's nothing to do with underdog status, there is something fundamentally broken about this team and the odd change here or there is going to do nothing.

Kiwi_knock

Healy
Best
Ross
O'Callaghan
O'Connell
Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
Sexton
Earls
D'arcy
O'Driscoll
Bowe
Kearney

Subs: Flannery, Court, Cullen, Jennings, Boss, O'Gara, Trimble.

maddragon

Connolly qualifies under residency and Haughey was banned for match fixing. Bertie Ahern would have been a shoe in at the 2007 WC due to the inability of the opposition to lay anything on him but he is stuck in a closet somewhere now. Jedward would make an interesting half back pairing but Kidney won't play them together because they might know each other too well from home.

Hermy

danthefan wrote: »

It's nothing to do with underdog status, there is something fundamentally broken about this team and the odd change here or there is going to do nothing.

I jest Dan. And I couldn't agree more with you that something is very badly amiss with this team. Just wish I knew what the fnck it is?

danthefan

Hermy wrote: »

I jest Dan. And I couldn't agree more with you that something is very badly amiss with this team. Just wish I knew what the fnck it is?

Yeah sorry, I'm too downbeat even to joke about it at this stage.

Cypher_sounds

danthefan wrote: »

I don't even care who starts. We're going to get humped regardless.

danthefan wrote: »

Don't tell other people how to post, honestly. I don't care what you think. If you're so upset hit the report button.




It's nothing to do with underdog status, there is something fundamentally broken about this team and the odd change here or there is going to do nothing.

Why are you even in this thread if you dont care who starts this thread is about the team posters would like to see start, you have stated you dont care, why the interest in this thread then? baffling really.


OP id like to see that team you posted start.

Cypher_sounds

Way to go derailing the OP's good thread, always seems to happen in the rugby forum.

danthefan

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Why are you even in this thread if you dont care who starts this thread is about the team posters would like to see start, you have stated you dont care, why the interest in this thread then? baffling really.

Why are you posting the exact same thing as someone else? See reply above.

Cypher_sounds

danthefan wrote: »

Why are you posting the exact same thing as someone else? See reply above.

What are you on about, i have said i would like to see the team that the op posted, as in i agree with the team he has picked, if you dont care who plays as you have stated then i really cant understand your interest in this thread

theboss80

Dan I realise you're probably pissed off still after the match so if you have no interest that's grand leave it off until you do, but this will be a topic discussed all week until the team is announced so I said I'd get the ball rolling with what I think would be a decent team to play.

Hermy

danthefan wrote: »

Yeah sorry, I'm too downbeat even to joke about it at this stage.

Know the feeling.

Cypher_sounds

theboss80 wrote: »

Dan I realise you're probably pissed off still after the match so if you have no interest that's grand leave it off until you do, but this will be a topic discussed all week until the team is announced so I said I'd get the ball rolling with what I think would be a decent team to play.

Good post, im not trying to have a go but the thread is what it is and maybe we are all just pissed off with the match this morning.

MungBean

Healy
Best
Ross
O'Callaghan
O'Connell
Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
Sexton
Earls
D'arcy
O'Driscoll
Trimble
Kearney

Subs: Flannery, Court, Cullen, Leamy, Boss, O'Gara, Bowe.

danthefan

theboss80 wrote: »

Dan I realise you're probably pissed off still after the match so if you have no interest that's grand leave it off until you do, but this will be a topic discussed all week until the team is announced so I said I'd get the ball rolling with what I think would be a decent team to play.

That's fine, I'm aware people have their views on who should start, but I'm of the view that it really doesn't matter. We are going to lose. How is this not a valid viewpoint?

maddragon

danthefan wrote: »

Yeah sorry, I'm too downbeat even to joke about it at this stage.

I know how you feel. As an avid rugby fan this group of players have given me some of the happiest moments I can remember whether it be in Munster, Leinster or Ireland jerseys. Gaffney is not doing his job with the backs and Kidneys selection policy is unfathomable. Sad thing is Australia look beatable and SA or Wales in a quarter final are nothing to fear either but not with this Ireland team in the disarray it's in now.

maddragon

durkadurka wrote: »

Mine would be


Healy
Fla
Ross

DOC
POC

Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
Sexton

Trimble
McFadden
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

Bench: Court , best , Cullen , Jennings , Murray , ROG , Earls

+1

andrewdcs

Having thought about it all day, having ruled out all the various issues with individual and collective accountability, having watched Ireland all through the 80s 90s and 00s I am pretty certain that I have ascertained the issue, and can propose a solution.


The issue: This Ireland team has a bad juju.


The solution: http://www.blesstheworld.com/spiritual_remedies.html

theboss80

danthefan wrote: »

That's fine, I'm aware people have their views on who should start, but I'm of the view that it really doesn't matter. We are going to lose. How is this not a valid viewpoint?

Never said it wasn't valid at all. Just a crap attitude towards a valid thread. But its your opinion which you are entitled to as much as the next man.

Quint2010

maddragon wrote: »

Patrick Sarsfield
Brian Boru
Niall of the Nine hostages
St Brendan
Finn McCool
Hugh O'Neill
Silken Thomas
Wolfe Tone
Robert Emmet
Cathal Brugha
Tom Barry
Sean Lemass
Jim Larkin
Kelly the boy from Kilane
Michael Collins

I particularly like Lemass at outhalf as he had good form in changing the course of a game. Tinkered with putting in James Connolly as an impact dub from the bench but his injury record comes against him.

What about Bobby Sands? Or do you think he'd be starved of possession...

BERBA

danthefan wrote: »

That's fine, I'm aware people have their views on who should start, but I'm of the view that it really doesn't matter. We are going to lose. How is this not a valid viewpoint?

and you'll be ireland number 1 fan if they win next sat eh?:rolleyes:

.ak

andrewdcs wrote: »

Having thought about it all day, having ruled out all the various issues with individual and collective accountability, having watched Ireland all through the 80s 90s and 00s I am pretty certain that I have ascertained the issue, and can propose a solution.


The issue: This Ireland team has a bad juju.


The solution: http://www.blesstheworld.com/spiritual_remedies.html

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHARFFLFFOLMAMAOLOLOLOLOL!! :pac: I'm in tears here...

chris85

danthefan wrote: »

Don't tell other people how to post, honestly. I don't care what you think. If you're so upset hit the report button.

Its the internet. Ironic you are telling me how to post about not telling what other people should post.

I am not concerned what you think tbh but the thread is about your team to start and i dont think saying we are going to get humped is valid opinion to it.

There are other threads for that.

.ak

Hrmm, good thread tho.. I think the majority of us are in agreement with the who we'd like to see starting, there's some slight differences in everyones posts, but the funny thing is we'll see some unusual picks come saturday, because that's how Kidney does... :P

My 2c...

1. Healy
2. Best
3. Ross
4. DOC
5. POC
6. SOB
7. Leamy
8. Heaslip
   
9. Reddan
10. Sexton
11. Trimble
12. McFadden
13. BOD
14. Bowe
15. Kearney
16. Court
17. Flannery
18. Cullen
19. Ferris
20. Murray
21. ROG
22. Earls

Couple of things: The SH/FH pairing is so important from the kick off... I'm not wearing blue-tinted shades here, I honestly think Sexton and Reddan on their best days will compete with the best. Also communication is key.. if Kidney decides to start ROG, that's fine, that's understandable.. but he must start a familiar SH with him: Murray. No more of this mixing at the pivot...

Leamy at 7? I know, but SOB is a world class 6, and that'll be one of our few strengths.. Also he can move about for Ferris to come on as an impact sub.

Earls as replacement? Well if dreams come through and Kidney drops Darce for McFadden we'll need someone that can double up as FB if Kearney takes a blow.. Earls had a great game at FB in march, and is looking less like a finisher these days.. he'd be ideal at FB cover, or just a general 22. More than likely Wallace will get this role.

corny

durkadurka wrote: »

Mine would be


Healy
Fla
Ross

DOC
POC

Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip

Reddan
Sexton

Trimble
McFadden
BOD
Bowe
Kearney

Bench: Court , best , Cullen , Jennings , Murray , ROG , Earls

I'd love to see McFadden at 12 and he deserves his chance but i'd be very surprised if Kidney picks him.

joshrogan

I think the occasion of the world cup has gotten to Sexton. I don't think he should start this game and shouldn't come on unless ROG makes a series of blunders.

corny

.ak wrote: »

Leamy at 7? I know, but SOB is a world class 6, and that'll be one of our few strengths.. Also he can move about for Ferris to come on as an impact sub.

Can't believe you made me read that.:D

Conas

1 Cian "Baby Elephant" Healy
2 Rory "Flipper" Best
3 Mike "Rhino" Ross
4 Leo "Long Sheep" Cullen
5 Paul "Redser" O Connell
6 Stephen "Glassman" Ferris
7 Shane "Gouge Kennedy" Jennings
8 Sean "If there's no hole, I'll make one" O'Brien
9 Eoin "Smallfry" Reddan
10 Johnny "Sex is dire, but can be on fire" Sexton
11 Andrew "hercules" Trimble
12 Fergus "Skippy" McFadden
13 Brian "Drico" O Driscoll
14 Tommy "Long Johns" Bowe
15 Geordan "Tiger Smurf" Murphy

Quint2010

Conas wrote: »

1 Cian "Baby Elephant" Healy
2 Rory "Flipper" Best
3 Mike "Rhino" Ross
4 Leo "Long Sheep" Cullen
5 Paul "Redser" O Connell
6 Stephen "Glassman" Ferris
7 Shane "Gouge Kennedy" Jennings
8 Sean "If there's no hole, I'll make one" O'Brien
9 Eoin "Smallfry" Reddan
10 Johnny "Sex is dire, but can be on fire" Sexton
11 Andrew "hercules" Trimble
12 Fergus "Skippy" McFadden
13 Brian "Drico" O Driscoll
14 Tommy "Long Johns" Bowe
15 Geordan "Tiger Smurf" Murphy

Healy's nickname is "Church"

wicklowwonder

healy
best
ross

leo
poc

ferris
jennings
sob

reddan
sexton

trimble
Ferg
bod
bowe
rob

we cannot kick without finding touch v oz cause they will kill us with loose ball! Cooper will score tries from everywhere if we start kicking wildly! We need keep ball in hand, keep it tight until we get quick ball. We cannot go into the game without an out and out 7 or we wont compete at ruck time. heaslip to come on for SOB after 55-60 mins! I worry if we have to take off one of our props court isnt good enough.

Flincher

jacothelad wrote: »

I thought Murray was average to dross during the game. I watched it again this afternoon - masochism really - and I have to say he was pretty awful. Poor options, bad passes, slow getting the ball away, knocking on, slow getting to rucks. His main ploy is simply to look for POC and shovel the ball to him even when he is in totally the wrong place. He may become a good player but he isn't one yet. Instead of playing Murray with ROG and Sexton with Reddan or Boss he does neither.

As the vast majority of our World Cup Squad have shown since early, there's a very significant different between being a bad player and having a bad game.

To suggest Murray isn't a good player in light of the 50 minutes or so he got today is stretching it, even assuming your assessment of his performance is accurate.

Given the conditions, I thought he did an alright job. I remember him knocking on once, and I think it was a marginal call, I remember him appealing to Joubert that it went backwards. Regarding shovelling the ball to O'Connell, well POC and Ferris were the only 2 offering themselves to carry ball, its natural enough that he'd pass the ball to him often enough. I thought he had a couple of decent half breaks, his kicking was ok, and his passing not as bad as you're making out. I'm not pretending he was world class, but he didn't disgrace himself, and it's not like Reddan turned in a significantly better performance when he came on.

That said, Reddan to start with Murray on the bench next week for me.

Reloc8

Not going to happen but here is my team :-

1. Cian Healy (presume fit)
2. Rory Best
3. Mike Ross

4. Stephen Ferris
5. Paul O'Connell

6. Sean O'Brien (presume fit)
7. Shane Jennings
8. Jamie Heaslip

9. Eoin Reddan
10. Jonathon Sexton

11 Andrew Trimble
12. Tommy Bowe
13. Brian O'Driscoll (c)
14. Keith Earls

15. Rob Kearney

16. Tom Court
17. Jerry Flannery
17. Tony Buckley (pewk but what can you do)
18. Denis Leamy
19. Donncha O'Callaghan
20. Ronan O'Gara
21. Issac Boss
22. Fergus McFadden

To a certain extent I am basing this around having the Leinster 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 on the pitch and in their starting positions. DOC loses out for giving away silly penalties and because we must have Ferris on the pitch, all the more so when losing David Wallace. I think he would cope fine with 4.

Leo Cullen unlucky to miss out on the bench. Ronan O'Gara very unlucky to stay on the bench but I will persevere for one more start with Sexton...that's a very marginal call.

Kearney for Murphy...just because I have mortal fear of Murphy in defence...he just seems to miss one crucial tackle in every crunch match for Ireland.

Tommy Bowe at 12 is my dark horse. I would regard him and BOD as inter-changeable between 12 and 13 depending on the circumstances. Yes I know its not been done...almost seems like something that should by now have been tried doesn't it.

jacothelad

.ak wrote: »

Hrmm, good thread tho.. I think the majority of us are in agreement with the who we'd like to see starting, there's some slight differences in everyones posts, but the funny thing is we'll see some unusual picks come saturday, because that's how Kidney does... :P

My 2c...

1. Healy
2. Best
3. Ross
4. DOC
5. POC
6. SOB
7. Leamy
8. Heaslip
9. Reddan
10. Sexton
11. Trimble
12. McFadden
13. BOD
14. Bowe
15. Kearney
16. Court
17. Flannery
18. Cullen
19. Ferris
20. Murray
21. ROG
22. Earls

Couple of things: The SH/FH pairing is so important from the kick off... I'm not wearing blue-tinted shades here, I honestly think Sexton and Reddan on their best days will compete with the best. Also communication is key.. if Kidney decides to start ROG, that's fine, that's understandable.. but he must start a familiar SH with him: Murray. No more of this mixing at the pivot...

Leamy at 7? I know, but SOB is a world class 6, and that'll be one of our few strengths.. Also he can move about for Ferris to come on as an impact sub.

Earls as replacement? Well if dreams come through and Kidney drops Darce for McFadden we'll need someone that can double up as FB if Kearney takes a blow.. Earls had a great game at FB in march, and is looking less like a finisher these days.. he'd be ideal at FB cover, or just a general 22. More than likely Wallace will get this role.

Nice of you to post on here Denis. Seriously, just about the most barking choice possible.

What is the relationship between dropping Darcy and fullback cover.

danthefan

BERBA wrote: »

and you'll be ireland number 1 fan if they win next sat eh?:rolleyes:

I will support the team as ever.

bm1993

Healy
Best
Ross
Cullen
O'Connell
Ferris
O'Brien
Heaslip
Reddan
Sexton
Trimble
McFadden
O'Driscoll
Bowe
Kearney

Reps:
Flannery
Court
O'Callaghan
Jennings
Boss
O'Gara
Earls