Where to get nice number plates

MURDO

Hey folks. Where can i pick up a set of number plates in the limerick area.

was looking for the kind that are on most audi's and bmw's.

Nothing too fancy but road legal all the same.

Also can i wait for them while there being done? and cost?

Thanks in advance.

Nissan doctor

Anything other then the standard plates is illegal, including the German style plates.

-Corkie-

www.eireplates.com

Bazz had the proper link..

bazz26

MURDO wrote: »

Hey folks. Where can i pick up a set of number plates in the limerick area.

was looking for the kind that are on most audi's and bmw's.

Nothing too fancy but road legal all the same.

Also can i wait for them while there being done? and cost?

Thanks in advance.

I take it you mean German style plates?

Best place is buy them online. Some place like this: http://www.eireplates.com/

They are normally delivered in about 2 - 3 working days.

MURDO

whats the risk of having them on the car if pulled over by gardai.

Is it a points offence?

chickenfarmer

If its German style plates that you are looking for, I saw a sign in T-Junction cars in Newcastlewest for them today. 25euro for the set. Don't know if they are pressed or acrylic tho ?

Damokc

AFAIK "font" can be anything once you have the spacing correct with the dashes (**-**-**), the county in irish and the euro flag with IRL in it. somebody said this in another thread on boards.

savagecabbages

Its a grey area, one thing for sure its a great excuse for a Guard to pull you over for a closer look at them (and everything else)!

dougie-lampkin

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Anything other then the standard plates is illegal, including the German style plates.

I don't see any reference to a "standard plate" in the relevant legislation. What is a "standard plate" defined as, out of curiosity?

The German plates are way overdone (since they're featured on Corollas and Almeras at this stage), but once the font size falls within the legal limits they're perfectly legal. They're also like having a big blue flashing light for the Gardai to pull you over if they see them, and not to compliment them either.

Mycroft H

I'd rather have bog standard plates on rather then give an over zealous guard an excuse to pull me over

drunkymonkey

No you HAVE to have nothing else but the standard on your car, anything else is illegal.

I only just payed the VRT on my car two weeks ago and went to get new plates and was told by several places that it has changed to this now.

dougie-lampkin

drunkymonkey wrote: »

No you HAVE to have nothing else but the standard on your car, anything else is illegal.

What is this "standard" people keep referring to? There is no such thing as a standard font. Of the four cars outside with original plates, not one has a font that resembles the one used here. They're all still perfectly legal.

Would you like to define the "standard" plate we're required to have? Because I can guarantee the majority of people will have a different yet still fully legal plate.

rebel.ranter

If you look at the NCT manual pages 8-9 it clearly outlines what is relevant, I've also attached a PDF of the relevant two pages.

http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/nctmanual.pdf

The following is specified:

- EU flag & country
- County on top
- Format & dimensions

The font is not specified. It just has to be legible. It even states that dimension changes are permissible if the opening is smaller than normal.

vectra

rebel.ranter wrote: »

If you look at the NCT manual pages 8-9 it clearly outlines what is relevant, I've also attached a PDF of the relevant two pages.

http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/nctmanual.pdf

The following is specified:

- EU flag & country
- County on top
- Format & dimensions

The font is not specified. It just has to be legible. It even states that dimension changes are permissible if the opening is smaller than normal.

Correct.
I put the civic through last year and there was no dots between the numbers/letters.
passed the NCT and i even questioned it before it went in to ensure I was ok.

Too much ermphasis put on the font by members here and I bet the majority of them never had them fitted or rarely know of someone that was told take them off.

I have a perspex version of them on my car now and several members of the garda said they were actually nice on it.

subway

my car has passed an NCT with german plates and ive never been stopped by a garda for it.
ive been through a number of checkpoints and breathalysed once and its never been an issue.

i was even lucky enough to get caught speeding recently and the german fonts didnt save me.
some folks will even tell you that the german font is easier to read for the ANPR system

Veloce

Are the pressed (3D like) number plates illegal? None of the fancy german markings on them etc...

drunkymonkey

dougie-lampkin wrote: »

drunkymonkey wrote: »

No you HAVE to have nothing else but the standard on your car, anything else is illegal.

What is this "standard" people keep referring to? There is no such thing as a standard font. Of the four cars outside with original plates, not one has a font that resembles the one used here. They're all still perfectly legal.

Would you like to define the "standard" plate we're required to have? Because I can guarantee the majority of people will have a different yet still fully legal plate.

You know full well what standard means, it's the standard spacing, colour and font that's on the majority of cars none of the italic or bold numbering.

This is new law not saying it was the same when ye went to get your nct last year or a couple of months back. I know 2 people that have been refused nct first time in cork in the last 2 months purely because of the plates and all they had was the bold font, the spacing was all fine.

Would you like to ring an nct office up to confirm your comment?

Sure it's only frowned upon by the gardai they won't do anything but still technically 'illegal' .

subway

drunkymonkey wrote: »

You know full well what standard means, it's the standard spacing, colour and font that's on the majority of cars none of the italic or bold numbering.

which is the correct font?

Mc Love

Has anyone see that some new 2011 cars have different numbers? Some have 11 and some have II

rebel.ranter

drunkymonkey wrote: »

You know full well what standard means, it's the standard spacing, colour and font that's on the majority of cars none of the italic or bold numbering.

The NCT manual & Irish statute book do not prescribe any particular font, both documents have been linked to in this thread already. All they say is that they are meant to be legible. The dimensions & format are also prescribed so Bold & Italic may not allow conformity from a dimensions point of view.
Different plate printers are using different font, even the same garage a re using different fonts over time, I got a set of plates made up 3-4 years ago & then again a year ago & the fonts were different even though both sets were supplied by the same dealer.
There's nothing wrong or illegal with the font used on "German style" plates. This font was actually developed to be more legible & recognisable to APNR systems. If you start removing the county above the plate,changing the IRL to a D & finally putting the Test & Registrations tags on the plates then you are clearly breaking the rules.

Berty

Blah Blah Blah illegal legal etc. He only wants to know where to get the plates. He doesn't want to fit 26 loud exhausts to his car.

Anyway try Gary in http://www.proimage.ie/ Eastway Business Park.

listermint

subway wrote: »

which is the correct font?

Both are fine.

you need correct spacing, EU Identification, and County Identification and the dashes are required.

Font size is relevant but not font type expect taking the piss with Italics..


Ive got german styles on mine. pressed plates. They make the car.

subway

listermint wrote: »

Both are fine.

you need correct spacing, EU Identification, and County Identification and the dashes are required.

Font size is relevant but not font type expect taking the piss with Italics..


Ive got german styles on mine. pressed plates. They make the car.

how can they both be fine when the law clearly states that only the standard font is allowed?
which one is the standard font, apparently everyone knows it... (except me and my nct passing german fonts)

rebel.ranter

subway wrote: »

how can they both be fine when the law clearly states that only the standard font is allowed?

This is the point, it does not state anywhere "standard font".

drunkymonkey

listermint wrote: »

Both are fine.

you need correct spacing, EU Identification, and County Identification and the dashes are required.

Font size is relevant but not font type expect taking the piss with Italics..


Ive got german styles on mine. pressed plates. They make the car.

Exactly both are fine!

Ye seem to be missing my point, I am talking about the overly ridiculous plates that are obviously not standard. There is obviously going to be a bit of lee-way on the font, not that much difference in the ones that were put up except for the 1 and | .

All I'm saying is it is technically illegal now where font didn't come into it before. What its like with most laws in this country they are frowned upon and given a slap on the wrist if that!

P.s. I am not against these type of plates at all I actually went in to get these type, and had them on my last car.

subway

rebel.ranter wrote: »

This is the point, it does not state anywhere "standard font".

that is my point...

voxpop

Have pressed plates on the audi - first ones had no dashes, nct didnt like that. New ones have dashes, county name and EU bit - went through the nct fine.

got mine from eireplates.com

subway

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Exactly both are fine!

Ye seem to be missing my point, I am talking about the overly ridiculous plates that are obviously not standard. There is obviously going to be a bit of lee-way on the font, not that much difference in the ones that were put up except for the 1 and | .

All I'm saying is it is technically illegal now where font didn't come into it before. What its like with most laws in this country they are frowned upon and given a slap on the wrist if that!

P.s. I am not against these type of plates at all I actually went in to get these type, and had them on my last car.

i'm not missing your point, im saying it has no legal basis and is an invalid argument

how can there be a standard font that everyone must conform too, but there is no standard font? you are also allowed a little lee-way from standard font but there is no guideline on standard font.

"eveyone knows" is not really a legally acceptable term. thats not how the law works

i'm not going to take off my german plates if there is no law against it. its just people whinging against soemthing a little bit different IMO.

listermint

subway wrote: »

that is my point...

Okay, if you cant really see what legible 'standard look' font is then there is not much hope in someone here showing you.

Both examples you have are in around legible 'standard look' bold lettering. Good internal font spaces lines arent sharp.

its not rocket science.

People who bend the rules know when they have broken them, you have to err on the side of pisstake.

listermint

subway wrote: »

i'm not missing your point, im saying it has no legal basis and is an invalid argument

how can there be a standard font that everyone must conform too, but there is no standard font? you are also allowed a little lee-way from standard font but there is no guideline on standard font.

"eveyone knows" is not really a legally acceptable term. thats not how the law works

i'm not going to take off my german plates if there is no law against it. its just people whinging against soemthing a little bit different IMO.

I have german plates by the way. They are fine, the font is fine. Its not a pisstake. A pisstake would be to remove the dashes / the county / and insert some german tax symbols. Thats a pisstake.

German font is fine! spacing is fine, its legible, its bold. etc etc .

drunkymonkey

subway wrote: »

i'm not going to take off my german plates if there is no law against it. its just people whinging against soemthing a little bit different IMO.

Do what you want I was just stating my experience. Go into any Plate printers and ask for the standard plates. I doubt you'll get any 'what the hell is he talking about' looks like you are making out.

subway

listermint wrote: »

Okay, if you cant really see what legible 'standard look' font is then there is not much hope in someone here showing you.

Both examples you have are in around legible 'standard look' bold lettering. Good internal font spaces lines arent sharp.

its not rocket science.

People who bend the rules know when they have broken them, you have to err on the side of pisstake.

i really dont know why you are arguing with me, i am in agreement with you?
i'm just interested to know the thoughts on people who say things like

No you HAVE to have nothing else but the standard on your car, anything else is illegal

its about the strongest thing you can write on a subject, its clearly wrong (since if there is no standard how can anything other than standard be illegal)

but feel free to continue arguing around in circles with me if you like...

subway

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Do what you want I was just stating my experience. Go into any Plate printers and ask for the standard plates. I doubt you'll get any 'what the hell is he talking about' looks like you are making out.

grand, so you just mean the standard that some shop prints.

at least you are being clear now. nothing to do with the law at all just whatever font the shop uses. or are you suggesting the shop has recevied legal guidance?

listermint

subway wrote: »

i really dont know why you are arguing with me, i am in agreement with you?
i'm just interested to know the thoughts on people who say things like


its about the strongest thing you can write on a subject, its clearly wrong (since if there is no standard how can anything other than standard be illegal)

but feel free to continue arguing around in circles with me if you like...

Im not going around in circles, disregard others as they dont know. Mine are germans, I assume yours are the same.

As i said ive dashes / county / EU bit and large bold font. As they are from Eireplates they do give a standard setup for the german font which falls in with size legislation.

So with Eireplates you are fine. If however you choose the Eireplates option of non of the items i have above (which you can) and also slap some german tax symbols on (which you can) you are inviting trouble from the boys in blue.

Otherwise your not. Gift!

listermint

subway wrote: »

grand, so you just mean the standard that some shop prints.

at least you are being clear now. nothing to do with the law at all just whatever font the shop uses. or are you suggesting the shop has recevied legal guidance?

Im also at the stage where i think you are being argumentative just for the sake of it.

Ive already pointed out what constitutes good font as above. Read it again if you so wish, or dont.

drunkymonkey

subway wrote: »

grand, so you just mean the standard that some shop prints.

at least you are being clear now. nothing to do with the law at all just whatever font the shop uses. or are you suggesting the shop has recevied legal guidance?

Not legal guidance but they are well up on the laws of it as they should be.

Agreed, This is going nowhere talking to you about this and this is not what the thread was created for.

subway

i am being argumentative, but not for the sake of it.
drunkmonkey has said that if i go into a plate printers and ask for standard plates i will get some legally defined plates.

i think that this is absolute BS, and he has provided nothing to back it up. i dont see that such blatant misinformation should be allowed stand.

i understand what "basic" plates are (also called "standard", "plain", "average", etc) but i dont accept that just because these are the cheap ones stuck on cars that this is somehow now the legal definition of the correct font etc.

i am not trying to argue anyhting other than the fact that there is no single legally stipulated font. there are guidelines and i am very aware of them. but unless someone is positng a link to a law about the font then i dont think anyone should really have anything to argue with me about.

subway

drunkymonkey wrote: »

Not legal guidance but they are well up on the laws of it as they should be.

Agreed, This is going nowhere talking to you about this and this is not what the thread was created for.

well its the first reply and thanked by the usual suspects on here so i think it needs to be corrected.

honestly, i despair at the level of debate on this board sometimes. nothing other than "the accepted wisdom" goes.

listermint

subway wrote: »

well its the first reply and thanked by the usual suspects on here so i think it needs to be corrected.

honestly, i despair at the level of debate on this board sometimes. nothing other than "the accepted wisdom" goes.

Im a usual suspect because i agreed with you and also gave you guidelines agreeing to what we agreed on?

And you continue to argue for the sake of it. I thanked Drunk Monkey because he is right this is going no where. Youve already brought this so far off topic that is ridiculous.

And dont refer to me as a usual suspect because it suits your insane arguementative agenda.

-Chris-

Enough.

Not one of you is interested in helping the OP at this stage, and I don't think anyone's about to miraculously change their stance.

Thread closed.