BBC and ITV on Saorview?

James__10

How can I get BBC and ITV on Saorview?

ardmacha

No.

James__10

ardmacha wrote: »

No.

Why?

St Senan

Saorview = Irish TV channels

Freeview/BBC/ITV = UK TV channels

watty

Saorview = Free to Air Irish digital replacement for Irish Analogue TV. Nothing more. No logical reason it should have non-Irish channels.

BBC & ITV = "Foreign" TV services that cost money to transmit (Maintenance, electricity, Capital cost, spectrum, distribution and royalties to the Broadcasters).

Who would pay costs?

What customers would there be to pay since these are free on Satellite?

Peter Rhea

James__10 wrote: »

Why?

Because they're not there. If you live in the right part of the country (do tell), you might be able to get Freeview, the UK terrestrial service

Digifriendly

James__10 wrote: »

Why?

Because Saorview (ROI DTT) is a different system from Freeview (UK DTT). It may be possible with some Freeview HD boxes to get both Saorview and Freeview and AFAIK the latest Humax box receives both.

James__10

Peter Rhea wrote: »

Because they're not there. If you live in the right part of the country (do tell), you might be able to get Freeview, the UK terrestrial service

I live in Dundalk and just bought a new tv and have a few saorview channels

Peter Rhea

Others in this forum have claimed Freeview availability in Dundalk, you should definitely get analogue UK channels if you have a decent aerial. Freeview should be easier to receive about a year from now.

Satellite is your best option for UK channels atm.

ardmacha

If your question can you get digital TV with UK stations? The answer is that if you have an appropriate aerial, you almost certainly will end of next year when the NI transmitters are at full power. At present you may not have a strong digital signal, but of course you can watch the analogue channels in the meantime.

James__10

How would I get this freeview? and does it cost?

Peter Rhea

If your current aerial setup isn't receiving Freeview already, I wouldn't bother trying until after digital switchover. Satellite is a more reliable option for now.

James__10

Peter Rhea wrote: »

If your current aerial setup isn't receiving Freeview already, I wouldn't bother trying until after digital switchover. Satellite is a more reliable option for now.

I don't think i've ever set freeview?

ardmacha

If you have a TV/box capable of receiving Saorview then it is almost certainly capable of receiving Freeview, if you have a signal currently.

James__10

ardmacha wrote: »

If you have a TV/box capable of receiving Saorview then it is almost certainly capable of receiving Freeview, if you have a signal currently.

Yes I have a tv thats currently receiving saorview. Is there any settings etc that need changing to recieve freeview?

The Cush

James__10 wrote: »

Yes I have a tv thats currently receiving saorview. Is there any settings etc that need changing to recieve freeview?

No, just a retune if you have an aerial pointing at UK transmitter carrying the Freeview channels and you're within the coverage area.

BTW: The BBC aren't interested in providing its channels on Saorview

The memorandum of understanding also provides for the carriage of TG4 on Northern Ireland’s DTT platform and facilitates the possibility of RTE being transmitted over DTT in the North and for the BBC to be carried in the South. While many viewers in Ireland and Northern Ireland watch the other country’s free-to-air TV channels through overspill, perhaps most significantly the memorandum of understanding allows the possibility of broadcasting RTE on an all-island basis for the first time in the history of the State. While the BBC has not engaged in the process for the delivery of free-to-air BBC services throughout Ireland and has no legislative remit to offer service to the island of Ireland, I am happy to report that both RTE and TG4 are fully engaged in the process we have set out.

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/seanad/...1/13/00009.asp

James__10

Can I tune the channels in manually? Is there any codes? I don't have a saorview box just a saorview tv btw

Vince Cable

Take a look at the aerial on your roof, if there isn't a brute of a thing pointing north towards Belfast, then no Freeview for you.

The Cush

James__10 wrote: »

Can I tune the channels in manually? Is there any codes? I don't have a saorview box just a saorview tv btw

Divis Freeview UHF Channels - 29 33 26 23 48 34

Saorview box or TV, it doesn't matter. The manual should describe how to do both manual and auto scan.

James__10

Done a quick search there and got the likes of itv channel 4 in the pictures coming up but the pic is unwatchable its all jumpy

The Cush

James__10 wrote: »

Done a quick search there and got the likes of itv channel 4 in the pictures coming up but the pic is unwatchable its all jumpy

Are they the analogue or digital channels? What aerials are you using for the Irish and UK channels? Two aerials are required.

James__10

The Cush wrote: »

Are they the analogue or digital channels? What aerials are you using for the Irish and UK channels? Two aerials are required.

Using a sky aerial for all the channels ie we watch RTE etc on sky and watch BBC on a normal Irish aerial

Digifriendly

James__10 wrote: »

Using a sky aerial for all the channels ie we watch RTE etc on sky and watch BBC on a normal Irish aerial

Such a thing doesn't exist but sky dish does!

James__10

Digifriendly wrote: »

Such a thing doesn't exist but sky dish does!

Well sorry! :rolleyes:

Peter Rhea

James__10 wrote: »

Using a sky aerial for all the channels ie we watch RTE etc on sky and watch BBC on a normal Irish aerial

You have Sky? So presumably Freeview/Saorview is for a 2nd tv?

James__10

Peter Rhea wrote: »

You have Sky? So presumably Freeview/Saorview is for a 2nd tv?

Yep freeview/saorview is for my bedroom.

Peter Rhea

If you can post a photo of the aerial feeding this tv, we might be able to advise on its suitability for receiving Freeview now, or after switchover.

James__10

Peter Rhea wrote: »

If you can post a photo of the aerial feeding this tv, we might be able to advise on its suitability for receiving Freeview now, or after switchover.

Take a pic of the aerial on the roof like?

Daniel S

James__10 wrote: »

Take a pic of the aerial on the roof like?

You're from my end of the country

Peter Rhea

James__10 wrote: »

Take a pic of the aerial on the roof like?

It should be helpful, yes. Don't put yourself in any danger, though.

James__10

Pics of the aerial!

Peter Rhea

The aerial at the top (looks like it's missing at least 1 element) would appear to be for Divis (Belfast) as it's horizontally polarised. Also fitted with an amplifier.

The one underneath would be for Clermont Cairn (Irish channels).

Whole setup could probably do with an overhaul or just wait until after digital switchover (Divis transmitter will get a big power increase) & see how it goes then as the present low power transmissions may not be reliable, even with the very best of equipment.

James__10

Theirs pictures coming through for the analogue stations but no sound

The Cush

James__10 wrote: »

Theirs pictures coming through for the analogue stations but no sound

How is the analogue picture quality?

If it's OK check in the menu for PAL B/G or PAL I.

PAL I is the UK/Ireland setting for analogue audio (6.0 MHz sound carrier), B/G is Europe (5.5 MHz). Should be selected automatically with the correct UK/Ireland region setting on install.

NFD100

Soon possible for ROI viewers to receive BBC for a small fee and NI viewers to receive RTE channels and TG4

See attached. This has been known about for some time...

http://www.nio.gov.uk/imc-identify-early-devolution-as-potent-intervention-to-answer-dissident-threat-woodward/media-detail.htm?newsID=16286


Saorview + if you want it

lawhec

Although not useful for current transmissions, you can try the Ceefax Test to see if your current analogue reception is good enough to allow for reliable Freeview PSB (at least) reception when these services replace analogue and broadcast at full power.

The Cush

NFD100 wrote: »

Soon possible for ROI viewers to receive BBC for a small fee and NI viewers to receive RTE channels and TG4

See attached. This has been known about for some time...

http://www.nio.gov.uk/imc-identify-early-devolution-as-potent-intervention-to-answer-dissident-threat-woodward/media-detail.htm?newsID=16286


Saorview + if you want it

Old news - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055815871 (happy reading)

BBC on Saorview not happening any time soon.

RTÉ/TG4 mini mux in NI from DSO in late 2012 - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69656821#post69656821. Overspill coverage into NI now, increased coverage at ASO.

watty

NFD100 wrote: »

Soon possible for ROI viewers to receive BBC for a small fee and NI viewers to receive RTE channels and TG4

See attached. This has been known about for some time...

http://www.nio.gov.uk/imc-identify-early-devolution-as-potent-intervention-to-answer-dissident-threat-woodward/media-detail.htm?newsID=16286


Saorview + if you want it

Political Fantasy.

Unlikely to happen ever.

BBC & ITV are free on Satellite.
Neither the UK, Irish Goverment, RTE or BBC will finance BBC on Irish DTT. Follow the money. Since no-one is prepared to pay (and very few of the viewers since it's free on Satellite and 82% have Sky or UPC), it can't happen.

Mr. Rabbit

If you can't get Freeview then why not try Freesat, which is almost as good (if not better) ?

You'll also get the 5 HD channels.

Freeview overspill into the ROI should increase after the end of 2012 and DSO in NI.