What's your opinion on the C6 ?

Ensti

Hi, guys. Just got a job down in Kerry about 2 weeks ago, so I'll be doing a lot of miles. Since I started working there I've had rent a car as my current car wouldn't get me down to Kerry. So, last week I went looking at a few cars, Mondeo, Passat, Accord...and Citroen C6. Have a budget of about €19K and I'm in need of a car by next week.

Have my heart set on this;
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Citroen/C6/2.7-HDi-/201136204307983/advert?channel=CARS

But, the GF HATES it. Absolutely hates it ! She likes the Accord. Don't even know why I'm listening to her, she won't be driving this AT ALL. Shes driving a 2010 407 HDi and its been crashed twice already :eek:

So, what are your thoughts on this C6 ?

Guy:Incognito

Why does she hate it?

How could anyone hate the C6?

Ensti

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why does she hate it?

How could anyone hate the C6?

Doesn't like the way it looks, thinks its too big, interior is ugly. This list goes on and on :rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito

Ensti wrote: »

Doesn't like the way it looks, thinks its too big, interior is ugly. This list goes on and on :rolleyes:

Well the answer is simple. shes wrong

Ensti

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Well the answer is simple. shes wrong

Yeah she is wrong alright. Still don't know if the C6 is worth the money though...

mondeo

The steering wheel is abit quare looking but other then that it excites me. I'd fancy a big french car to cruise about in.

CianRyan

That car is a stunned IMO!
I'd have it over a Mondeo, Passat or an Accord(a blue euro R may be a different story) in a heart beat.

Lex Luthor

Pricey but sweet

Padraig Mor

'ho gotta go!

shanec1928

Ensti wrote: »

Hi, guys. Just got a job down in Kerry about 2 weeks ago, so I'll be doing a lot of miles. Since I started working there I've had rent a car as my current car wouldn't get me down to Kerry. So, last week I went looking at a few cars, Mondeo, Passat, Accord...and Citroen C6. Have a budget of about €19K and I'm in need of a car by next week.

Have my heart set on this;
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Citroen/C6/2.7-HDi-/201136204307983/advert?channel=CARS
But, the GF HATES it. Absolutely hates it ! She likes the Accord. Don't even know why I'm listening to her, she won't be driving this AT ALL. Shes driving a 2010 407 HDi and its been crashed twice already :eek:

So, what are your thoughts on this C6 ?

so has this lad as well. if you get it first post here gloating
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056380839&page=4

helimachoptor

Op my company use green tomatoe cars as taxis in London, I've been picked up by a c6 twice, fantastic car to ride in very comfy and seemed to have a lot of gadgets

fricatus

Gorgeous car, with real French flair. If your house looks like the Elysée Palace, and you look like Jacques Chirac, it's a perfect fit! :cool:

Accord is lovely (I have one) and it's very reliable, holds its value, etc., but the C6 would be something very different and will definitely allow you to stand out from the crowd! Depreciation, tax, repairs... hmmmm... yeah, but you only live once!

BTW, didn't Clarkson or one of the other Top Gear heads rave about it?

Victor Meldrew

We had a 1981 CX (from new).

All the superlatives for the C6 applied to that car, so I have a soft spot for a big Citroen, but good god that car (CX) was appallingly built. Anything and everything to do with the engine and transmission had to be replaced at least once*.

Sir, you are right, the car is beautiful, and I salute your good taste, courage and willingness to pay road tax.

* all this happened over a 5 year period....

pajo1981

I was informed by a Citroen insider that the C6 (and the 407 coupe) are built on a dedicated slower moving assembly line and so, get that little bit of extra build love.

bijapos

Buy it. Its not only a fabulous looking car that stands out head and shoulders above any other exec car, but in a new job where inpressions are important it says a lot about you. Its in the same size class as a 5 series, E Class, A6 etc but it looks so much better.

krissovo

That car is sexual chocolate :cool:

Much better than the typical crap out there (apart from Merc E series), so much so I think this will be on my wish list for my next car.

Mycroft H

Go for it. Such a fantastic car, so different to anything else. I'd buy one if I had the money in a heartbeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj-fAlV_w_g

keithclancy

Your mistake there is listening to your other half when buying a car.

If you go off and buy what she wants you'll be pi^^ed off every time you get into the thing.

Your going to be sitting in it every day, so you make the decision.

Her only imput if she is contributing to the cost should be a financial one (e.g. if you went over an agreed budget, or if it isn't pratical) , not a "I don't like the look of it"

Christ .. does she dress you as well ? :pac::pac::pac:

sentient_6

Jasus i reckon i might agree with her about the interior:



:eek:

Gophur

To paraphrase the Barry's Tea advertisement, "Santa will get her what she wants, this is for me!"

Buy the car, it's fantastic.

keithclancy

sentient_6 wrote: »

Jasus i reckon i might agree with her about the interior:



:eek:

Reminds me of a padded cell.

Matt Simis

I know it gets warm feedback online, but Im just going to have to admit I dont like it. At all.

The rear, its marmite piece, to me looks like some sort of bastardised body kit on a C5 Audi A6. It looks melted and wrong, like a hatchback "dropped" onto a saloon frame.


If I was looking to buy an obscure big saloon I would buy a VW Phaeton (again). For 20k you could have a well spec'ed Phaeton, as nice as the Citroen is no doubt, it doesnt compare to a part-shared Bentley Flying Spur.

Colour aside, that interior looks like the 1980s vision of 2015. Materials are nice, shape and positioning is not. Chrome Gear knob!?

TomMc

That's some depreciation in four years. It must of cost well in excess of 60K new.

In the UK Parkers show the car with a starting list price of 40k. After one year worth 16k and after 3 years only 10k.

If you go for it you may need deep pockets to look after it. Think of it as a 60k car not a 20k one. As much as I like the C6 on your budget I would still play safe and try and get a new model Accord in or around the 20k mark.

Mycroft H

The back is like marmite, I love it. Completely different. Its going to be as reliable as a pheaton to be honest as well.

cadaliac

I for one (if I had the cash) would buy it in a heartbeat..
Its not *German and that would be a huge advantage for me driving that car.
It's Beautiful, not German and going to loose it's arse in depreciation !
It has lost a considerable amount already, but be prepared for some heavy deprecation over the next 3 years. If you can afford it, go for it, but don't be expecting much from a big Citroen with a good few miles on in a few years.

*Different to the rest of the mob.

bijapos

Occassionally if you drive along Nassau St in the evening there is one parked up near Kildare St, it belongs to the French Ambassador (I think) as the Alliance Francaise in on the corner there.

Thing is, that street has plenty of XFs, 5 series, E Class, A6s and so on. The C6 stands out a mile, I've seen people slow down when walking past it, or stop and look at it. You wouldn't get the same reaction to a standard 911. Thats how different they are, the fact that it has a convex rear window which os probably unique today makes it all the rarer.

The mechanical bits are shared with plenty of other cars, the engine is found in Pugs, Land and Range Rovers and Jaguars amongst others and have proven themselves over time, they seem to be reiable, I've heard of no real issues with them.

pcardin

Matt Simis wrote: »

I know it gets warm feedback online, but Im just going to have to admit I dont like it. At all.

The rear, its marmite piece, to me looks like some sort of bastardised body kit on a C5 Audi A6. It looks melted and wrong, like a hatchback "dropped" onto a saloon frame.


If I was looking to buy an obscure big saloon I would buy a VW Phaeton (again). For 20k you could have a well spec'ed Phaeton, as nice as the Citroen is no doubt, it doesnt compare to a part-shared Bentley Flying Spur.

Colour aside, that interior looks like the 1980s vision of 2015. Materials are nice, shape and positioning is not. Chrome Gear knob!?

You should do more research on Phaeton's reliability and you probably would go for this "pimped" ala Passat car because you do not like things that are different or jumps out anyhow. Copy-Paste is your lifestyle.
OP seems to be different type of guy and I think he should go for it.

pcardin

cadaliac wrote: »

I for one (if I had the cash) would buy it in a heartbeat..
Its not *German and that would be a huge advantage for me driving that car.
It's Beautiful, not German and going to loose it's arse in depreciation !
It has lost a considerable amount already, but be prepared for some heavy deprecation over the next 3 years. If you can afford it, go for it, but don't be expecting much from a big Citroen with a good few miles on in a few years.

*Different to the rest of the mob.

Why do I think that C6 will be the same story as SM. That one was also loosing value fast when new but try to get one now for cheap. C6 will be collectors item one day. A dull Accord or Passat never.

cadaliac

pcardin wrote: »

Why do I think that C6 will be the same story as SM. That one was also loosing value fast when new but try to get one now for cheap. C6 will be collectors item one day. A dull Accord or Passat never.

I don't get the question sorry. SM?
Anyway, I whole heartily agree that the C6 will be a collectors item and dull Accord/Passat/Mondeo types will never be. That is part of the attraction about the car. Individuality. But, not just indivduality, it is simply a beautiful car looking to me.

maddness

Do it man. Dont listen to her. She is wrong.:D

Mycroft H

There a fairly rare car too... There is only less then 1000 C6's in the UK, which probably means there is less then 50 here

bijapos

cadaliac wrote: »

I don't get the question sorry. SM?

Citroen SM, essentially Citroens coupe version of the DS, lambasted when built, highly sought after today. It was an incredibly advanced car for its time but suffered badly on some quality issues.

The C6 is also well behind in projected sales. Seems most people prefer a German exec car to be safe, preferrably in a shade of silver.

Matt Simis

pcardin wrote: »

You should do more research on Phaeton's reliability

Why would I do that? Anyhow mine was perfectly fine in 2years of ownership.

pcardin wrote: »

and you probably would go for this "pimped" ala Passat car because you do not like things that are different or jumps out anyhow. Copy-Paste is your lifestyle.
OP seems to be different type of guy and I think he should go for it.

Do you know me? Given the type of cars I own and stuff I do outside of motors, Ive never been accused of having a "copy-paste" lifestyle..

"Pimped out passat" (lol) or not, the Phaeton is tiered above the C6. There is no ifs or buts, the C6 is not a nice looking car in my opinion (which was the question, not which is more reliable). Its got no interesting engines (vs W12 and V10TDI). Its try-hard. Its different for no reason other than to look different. That doesnt make it special.
FWIW, Im consistant in the sense I think the Vel Satis and Multipla are horrid looking things too.

Mycroft H

Yea the SM was well ahead of its time, it even had rain sensing wipers.....

mullingar

Gorgeous car and 100% querky.

But if you want something different that the OH will approve, how about a 3.0TDI VW Phaeton?

Quite cheap now in the UK. You would probably land a high spec 2006 one for €15k

Zubeneschamali

Matt Simis wrote: »

There is no ifs or buts, the C6 is not a nice looking car in my opinion

That means nothing, since no ifs or buts, I think it's gorgeous.

But then I think the Phaeton looks like a Passat put through a copier at 110%.

Mycroft H

Matt Simis wrote: »

Its try-hard. Its different for no reason other than to look different. That doesnt make it special.

And the Pheaton isn't?


Wasnt the whole idea of the pheaton, (a tecnical achievement every bit as much as the C6 mind you) to budge in on the luxury end of the market a la the 7 series/S class?


You might want to look at the history of Citroen. The've a lot of other cars that look different. In design they don't tend to follow the crowd, and that is a good thing.

Look at the DS/SM/CX/BX/XM (I'm missing out on many other models to list here but you get my point ) right up to the modern C5/C4 and C6. All quite different from the standard stuff churned out from VW/BMW/Merc/Ford/Toyota/Nissan.......... And so on.

Matt Simis

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

That means nothing, since no ifs or buts, I think it's gorgeous.
But then I think the Phaeton looks like a Passat put through a copier at 110%.

I meant there is no point in arguing if I like it or not.

BX 19 wrote: »

And the Pheaton isn't?
Wasnt the whole idea of the pheaton, (a tecnical achievement every bit as much as the C6 mind you) to budge in on the luxury end of the market a la the 7 series/S class?

Well no!
The Phaeton wasnt designed to and doesnt look awkward for the sake of it. Also, the C6 is not on par with the Technical achievements of the Phaeton. The Phaeton wasnt designed as a car, it was designed as an Engineering Challenge. As a technically inclined person, it resonates more with me than the C6 on that alone.

BX 19 wrote: »

You might want to look at the history of Citroen. The've a lot of other cars that look different. In design they don't tend to follow the crowd, and that is a good thing.

This thread isnt about Citroens. Im fully aware of their past and contributions. I simply think the C6 is not a nice design.

TomMc

The C6 is built for comfort (ride quality) and to chauffeur senior management to and from their office and boardroom. It is not a car to be used as a repmobile in place of a Mondeo, Passat, Avensis, Accord or Insignia. To do so would be missing the whole point. Think of the C6 more about quality motoring, not quantity (mileage).

OP, as I said before it is a 60k car, so you would need the pockets to match. No offense meant but most people with a 20k budget to spend on a car wouldn't have the means to run anything too upmarket. And if they have never owned a high end car, they could be in for a rude awakening.

It is easy for others to say they would go for it, if they had 20k (but what would these folk then maintain it with? green shield stamps). If if was their own money and lets face it when you have to save up not borrow 20k, they wouldn't be so profligate when it came to spending it. Most here would end up buying boring VAG or Skoda tee diddly eyes, nothing fancy.

It's nice to go left field and be non-conformist, rather than follow the masses with the herd mentality, but you have to ask yourself does the C6 really meet your requirements. Do not buy it just because it is different and stands out from the crowd and would look good in the company car park. Some cars are best owned by marque enthusiasts who can appreciate what makes them more individual or special than mainstream alternatives. And lets face it the C6 is not as quirky as Citroens of old.

pcardin

Matt Simis wrote: »

Why would I do that? Anyhow mine was perfectly fine in 2years of ownership.

Do you know me? Given the type of cars I own and stuff I do outside of motors, Ive never been accused of having a "copy-paste" lifestyle..

"Pimped out passat" (lol) or not, the Phaeton is tiered above the C6. There is no ifs or buts, the C6 is not a nice looking car in my opinion (which was the question, not which is more reliable). Its got no interesting engines (vs W12 and V10TDI). Its try-hard. Its different for no reason other than to look different. That doesnt make it special.
FWIW, Im consistant in the sense I think the Vel Satis and Multipla are horrid looking things too.

Oh sorry, somebody seems to offended.

No, I don't know you (and reading your posts I don't even want to). Seen your wife once driving S8 which also hardly is an outstanding car, just rare in ireland because of the stupid tax system. You had problems to acknowledge that some people might like something different than your favorite VAG crap and what's worse you seems to go mad when they say something wrong about your choice.

Matt Simis

pcardin wrote: »

Oh sorry, somebody seems to offended.

No, I don't know you (and reading your posts I don't even want to). Seen your wife once driving S8 which also hardly is an outstanding car, just rare in ireland because of the stupid tax system. You had problems to acknowledge that some people might like something different than your favorite VAG crap and what's worse you seems to go mad when they say something wrong about your choice.

Not offended, but think you are coming across as an overly personal weirdo.

I dont like VAG cars, I just like certain things from many makes (Citroen included). I dont subscribe to any one brand (like I suspect BX 19 does). I never said anything about an S8 here at all. Im not married, so I dunno who that woman is you are stalking. :rolleyes:

I have no problems acknowledging that others like the C6, perhaps you are ignorant to the what "marmite" means in this sense. I just answered the question honestly as opposed the very easy to do back-patting "yeah do it answer".

Talking about following the herd.. you make one comment against the underdog and all of a sudden you are the epitome of conformity!

Stevie Dakota

Matt Simis wrote: »

The Phaeton wasnt designed as a car, it was designed as an Engineering Challenge.

Sorry Matt, you must be smoking the same stuff Piëch was when he dreamt this one up. It was intended to compete with the S-class, it shared parts with the A8 and platform with the Bentley Continental. It most certainly was designed as a car despite its lofty ambitions. There was a lot of hype about the engineering but like the fancy factory that it was built in the whole project was a massive, failed ego trip for herr Piëch.

cadaliac

Well OP, do what do you think now?
Agreed though, some answers are not well thought out, just "oh god yeah, lovely buy it, what, me, oh god no !!"

pcardin

Matt Simis wrote: »

Not offended, but think you are coming across as an overly personal weirdo.

:D:D

Matt Simis wrote: »

I dont like VAG cars.

yes,yes, you just drive them. :rolleyes:

Matt Simis wrote: »

Im not married, so I dunno who that woman is you are stalking.

Don't look at me! Boardsies here said that was your Mrs, they must know you better. And I never said that was a woman. Maybe that little human being behind the weel was yourself. :pac:

Matt Simis wrote: »

you are ignorant

Her u go again. I think you have some issues.

Matt Simis wrote: »

Talking about following the herd.. you make one comment against the underdog and all of a sudden you are the epitome of conformity!

Yes, sometimes to stay silent is a better choice, especially when you can not cope with consequences after that.

Gophur

"Engineering challenge"?

Sounds like someone's excusing a "Financial Disaster"?

EPM

Take it PM or start a new thread to discuss the C6 and Phaeton. This discussion isn't helping the OP.

Ensti

EPM wrote: »

Take it PM or start a new thread to discuss the C6 and Phaeton. This discussion isn't helping the OP.

Thanks, EPM.

Ensti

I've made a decision and the C6 is crossed off the list GUTTED

pcardin

Ensti wrote: »

I've made a decision and the C6 is crossed off the list GUTTED

Oh no, they took you down?

Sorry to hear that. So are you going for Accord then?

Ensti

pcardin wrote: »

Oh no, they took you down?

Sorry to hear that. So are you going for Accord then?

No, I was looking on MotorTax.ie and tax is just too expensive. I'm looking for something with low tax.

So far I found,
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Scirocco/2.0-16v-/131126266162897/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Honda/Accord/Honda--2/201133203932501/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S40/S40-1.6-/201135204252463/advert?channel=CARS

And,
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Octavia/RS-2.0-T/201133203985005/advert?channel=CARS (I know a guy who can get me this cheap)

EPM

The vRS will be a lot firmer than the others and a little noisier as it's from a class below. Xenons are a nice extra, have those on mine and they make a big difference. Mine hasn't been the most reliable and economy isn't as good as you'd hope for either. I'm averaging about 41.

How cheap is cheap for it?