Nothing matters

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:06am #1

I have come to the conclusion,mistaken or not, that anything you do in your life really doesn't matter in the long run,for example, you have kids but if you dropped dead in the morning they would survive and in 20 -30 years years you would be a distant memory as they deal with their own lives and their own problems.which according to wike makes me a nihilist.

nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism which argues that life is without objective meaning

I can agree with the above description .
tldr--- life is ****,**** happens,deal with it or not.who gives a ****
Yeah wrong forum,but does it matter?

im invisible · 07-09-2011 1:09am

housetypeb wrote: »

Yeah wrong forum,but does it matter?

im going with No?

passion · 07-09-2011 1:10am

wow:o

hondasam · 07-09-2011 1:11am

Do you need a hug op.

cocoshovel · 07-09-2011 1:12am

Something must matter to YOU, at least in the short run. Eh. Not sure what Im trying to say here.

Yore ma etc

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:13am

im invisible wrote: »

im going with No?

That's the spirit, me old mukka.

The King of Moo · 07-09-2011 1:13am

You supply your own meaning to your actions, your life.

That's the beauty of it.

Insect Overlord · 07-09-2011 1:14am

Like as the waves make towards the pebbled shore,
So do our minutes hasten to their end;
Each changing place with that which goes before,
In sequent toil all forwards do contend.
Nativity, once in the main of light,
Crawls to maturity, wherewith being crown'd,
Crooked elipses 'gainst his glory fight,
And Time that gave doth now his gift confound.
Time doth transfix the flourish set on youth
And delves the parallels in beauty's brow,
Feeds on the rarities of nature's truth,
And nothing stands but for his scythe to mow:
And yet to times in hope my verse shall stand,
Praising thy worth, despite his cruel hand.
(W.Shakespeare)

/thread.

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:14am

hondasam wrote: »

Do you need a hug op.

No, it wouldn't really matter in the long run.

Mr. Boo · 07-09-2011 1:14am

The objective meaning of life is to replicate yourself as often as possible by spreading your fetid seed.

It is up to you whether you choose to ignore this primal goal, pursue it with gusto, or perhaps even try and enhance the overall experience for yourself through the numerous available means.

Chuck Stone · 07-09-2011 1:16am

42

Full.Duck · 07-09-2011 1:17am

Yes we mean nothing. We are a tiny spec on a tiny rock in a big bunch of rocks, spinning around in nothing. But hey, im enjoying the ride. Its my rock and want to make it a tiny bit better.

Dangerous Man · 07-09-2011 1:17am

You're not going to cut my johnson off, are you?

im invisible · 07-09-2011 1:17am

eh, 42

just dont ask what the question is:eek::eek:

Edit; damn you Chuck!!!!

hondasam · 07-09-2011 1:17am

housetypeb wrote: »

No, it wouldn't really matter in the long run.

Talk to auntie sam, what wrong?

I will probably most likely tell you to man the **** up but go ahead.

Aoifey! · 07-09-2011 1:17am

Yep, life sucks and then you die.

Pete M. · 07-09-2011 1:18am

I came to this same logical conclusion many years ago.

Still here though.

Life is addictive.

Not that it matters:cool:

Sirsok · 07-09-2011 1:19am

if theres no meanin then im gonna turn into this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulIOrQasR18

Hank Scorpio · 07-09-2011 1:21am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjvlrf0OM3M

Pete M. · 07-09-2011 1:21am

housetypeb wrote: »

No, it wouldn't really matter in the long run.

pffft

Some nihilist you are.

It wouldn't matter anyway :rolleyes:

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:23am

hondasam wrote: »

Talk to auntie sam, what wrong?

I will probably most likely tell you to man the **** up but go ahead.

Your mobile number and a very detailed description of your tits would probably speed things along.in other words -time to woman up.

cofy · 07-09-2011 1:25am

housetypeb wrote: »

I have come to the conclusion,mistaken or not, that anything you do in your life really doesn't matter in the long run,for example, you have kids but if you dropped dead in the morning they would survive and in 20 -30 years years you would be a distant memory as they deal with their own lives and their own problems.which according to wike makes me a nihilist.

nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism which argues that life is without objective meaning

I can agree with the above description .
tldr--- life is ****,**** happens,deal with it or not.who gives a ****
Yeah wrong forum,but does it matter?

What would you say to someone who means something to you, feeling the same way?

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:27am

cofy wrote: »

What would you say to someone who means something to you, feeling the same way?

What could I say? It's their life -they have to live it ,not me.

cofy · 07-09-2011 1:29am

housetypeb wrote: »

What could I say? It's their life -they have to live it ,not me.

And its up to them to make the most of it, no-one else can do that for them. Would you agree?

The King of Moo · 07-09-2011 1:31am

Think of how amazing it is to be alive and human.

First of all, it's amazing that the universe exists. Who says it has to? Why couldn't there just be nothingness?

Of all of the innumerable galaxies in the universe, each with their own innumerable stars, there's this one tiny little rock that has just the right conditions to foster life. The odds of this are astronomical.

Even more astronomical is that life did occur here, somehow, and survived and evolved through countless millennia and incredible hardships to lead to man.

Man, the only truly sentient, amazingly intelligent creature we know of. It's incredible luck that man came about. And man is a hardy creature. We may have been reduced to only a few thousand individuals in the past through extreme hardship, but we're still here, almost seven billion of us.

Think of all of the factors that had to go just right for man as a species to exist. And then think of all of the other factors that led us to progress to where we are now.

Now think of all the generations which led to your parents.

And then think, of all of your father's sperm, you're the one that made it.

It ain't easy sometimes, but life is pretty precious and a frankly awesome thing, and it takes a whole lot of things going right to make it.

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:31am

cofy wrote: »

And its up to them to make the most of it, no-one else can do that for them. Would you agree?

Isn't that just what I said?

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 07-09-2011 1:32am

I kinda hear you OP, live is bigger than you.
But who gives a sh*te, the only thing anyone can want is to reach their own potential to make themselves happy and maybe rub up against someone they really wanna rub up against.
You're in a bad place even wondering about this sh*t tbh, the only concern you should have is how to be an AH mod and get all that coke and all those hookers

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:33am

The King of Moo wrote: »

Think of how amazing it is to be alive and human.

First of all, it's amazing that the universe exists. Who says it has to? Why couldn't there just be nothingness?

Of all of the innumerable galaxies in the universe, each with their own innumerable stars, there's this one tiny little rock that has just the right conditions to foster life. The odds of this are astronomical.

Even more astronomical is that life did occur here, somehow, and survived and evolved through countless millennia and incredible hardships to lead to man.

Man, the only truly sentient, amazingly intelligent creature we know of. It's incredible luck that man came about. And man is a hardy creature. We may have been reduced to only a few thousand individuals in the past through extreme hardship, but we're still here, almost seven billion of us.

Think of all of the factors that had to go just right for man as a species to exist. And then think of all of the other factors that led us to progress to where we are now.

Now think of all the generations which led to your parents.

And then think, of all of your father's sperm, you're the one that made it.

It ain't easy sometimes, but life is pretty precious and a frankly awesome thing, and it takes a whole lot of things going right to make it.

Oh, I agree with all that,I'm just saying that it's pointless in the long run.

hondasam · 07-09-2011 1:35am

Aleena Hot Manager wrote: »

You're in a bad place even wondering about this sh*t tbh, the only concern you should have is how to be an AH mod and get all that coke and all those hookers

ffs he is depressed enough as it is, that would tip him over the edge completely.

The King of Moo · 07-09-2011 1:35am

housetypeb wrote: »

Oh, I agree with all that,I'm just saying that it's pointless in the long run.

Absolutely, and what of it?

It doesn't need an inherent point, it's good enough as it is.

If there is a point, it's to make of it what you want, or can.

Darkginger · 07-09-2011 1:37am

Have a look on YouTube for Peter Russell's 'Primacy of Consciousness' - if nothing else, it'll give you something to think about, and perhaps a different perspective on the 'what's it all for?' question. Did my head in, am still working on the implications of his theory - great way to drift off to sleep at night

Jess16 · 07-09-2011 1:39am

Well nothing will matter for all eternity OP because things change, people change, life changes. And thank God it does because I think a life without change would be unbearable.

But the things that happen to us in our own lifetimes always matter because they shape the kind of people we become and the type of life we'll live. And of course life matters because you only get one go at it so doesn't that make it important in itself?

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:40am

The King of Moo wrote: »

Think of how amazing it is to be alive and human.

First of all, it's amazing that the universe exists. Who says it has to? Why couldn't there just be nothingness?

Of all of the innumerable galaxies in the universe, each with their own innumerable stars, there's this one tiny little rock that has just the right conditions to foster life. The odds of this are astronomical.

Even more astronomical is that life did occur here, somehow, and survived and evolved through countless millennia and incredible hardships to lead to man.

Man, the only truly sentient, amazingly intelligent creature we know of. It's incredible luck that man came about. And man is a hardy creature. We may have been reduced to only a few thousand individuals in the past through extreme hardship, but we're still here, almost seven billion of us.

Think of all of the factors that had to go just right for man as a species to exist. And then think of all of the other factors that led us to progress to where we are now.

Now think of all the generations which led to your parents.

And then think, of all of your father's sperm, you're the one that made it.

It ain't easy sometimes, but life is pretty precious and a frankly awesome thing, and it takes a whole lot of things going right to make it.

Oh, I agree with all that,I'm just saying that it's pointless in the long run., I mean at the individual level.the tribe goes on while the person falls by the wayside.

im invisible · 07-09-2011 1:42am

The King of Moo wrote: »

Think of how amazing it is to be alive and human.

First of all, it's amazing that the universe exists. Who says it has to? Why couldn't there just be nothingness?

Of all of the innumerable galaxies in the universe, each with their own innumerable stars, there's this one tiny little rock that has just the right conditions to foster life. The odds of this are astronomical.

Even more astronomical is that life did occur here, somehow, and survived and evolved through countless millennia and incredible hardships to lead to man.

Man, the only truly sentient, amazingly intelligent creature we know of. It's incredible luck that man came about. And man is a hardy creature. We may have been reduced to only a few thousand individuals in the past through extreme hardship, but we're still here, almost seven billion of us.

Think of all of the factors that had to go just right for man as a species to exist. And then think of all of the other factors that led us to progress to where we are now.

Now think of all the generations which led to your parents.

And then think, of all of your father's sperm, you're the one that made it.

It ain't easy sometimes, but life is pretty precious and a frankly awesome thing, and it takes a whole lot of things going right to make it.

ah now, we're here in the universe and the way we are because the conditions dictate it, thats all, theres nothing special about it

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 07-09-2011 1:43am

hondasam wrote: »

ffs he is depressed enough as it is, that would tip him over the edge completely.

Oh God dont say that's depressing, it's my goal, after that I ahve.... well... nothing

Except my my money and property but that means nothing here

hondasam · 07-09-2011 1:44am

Aleena Hot Manager wrote: »

Oh God dont say that's depressing, it's my goal, after that I ahve.... well... nothing

Except my my money and property but that means nothing here

Money is everything slasher but you want the power.

Chuck Stone · 07-09-2011 1:46am

Old skool advice from Soul to Soul. (I thought that in a corny D.J. voice).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjCcg123Y8

If I was a DJ I'd mix in 42 after the kids chorus bit where they say

What's the meaning?
What's the meaning of life?

42

What's the meaning?
What's the meaning of life?

42

*gets coat*

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 1:47am

hondasam wrote: »

ffs he is depressed enough as it is, that would tip him over the edge completely.

Ffs, I 'm not depressed-I'm pensive,(staring manfully off into the wild blue yonder,which happens to be the gable of the house )

The King of Moo · 07-09-2011 1:49am

housetypeb wrote: »

Oh, I agree with all that,I'm just saying that it's pointless in the long run., I mean at the individual level.the tribe goes on while the person falls by the wayside.

I'd agree with you on that.

But your existence is important in and of itself, not in terms of any greater context.

Sure, when I'm gone the universe will probably continue on as normal, but that doesn't mean my life was pointless. We affect the people around us in ways we're often not aware of. I may leave some lasting legacy, some contribution to the tribe.

And if not, I'll still have had my life and hopefully have enjoyed most of it, or at least felt it was worth living.

The fact that the world keeps turning after we've gone doesn't reduce the meaning of our life. It just places it in a greater context.

I do agree with you that life is inherently pointless. I just try to see that as a positive thing, a challenge for us to infuse it with our own meaning.

And if we're only a small speck in the great cosmos, that just means we should try to make our lives as worthwhile as we can while we live them.

And I also find that thought quite liberating. If what we do probably won't affect the grand course of history, then what's there to worry about? We can just get on with living and not worry about what happens.

Man, I'm too tired for this, I don't usually engage my brain so late at night

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 07-09-2011 1:54am

hondasam wrote: »

Money is everything slasher but you want the power.

Well I have the miney, I have the land, and as I'm from Mayo I have the Edna Kenny/Hardy Buck Factor. I can't remember what this thread is even about but form a qeueue

The King of Moo · 07-09-2011 1:58am

im invisible wrote: »

ah now, we're here in the universe and the way we are because the conditions dictate it, thats all, theres nothing special about it

I don't know, that's a pretty mechanistic view of things.

Now I'm no astrophysicist, but surely random chance dictates most of these conditions. If you could start the universe again under the exact same conditions it began, I'm sure things wouldn't turn out precisely the way they have.

What if the night the OP's parents conceived, it occurred five minutes later? That slight change in conditions may have meant another sperm fertilised the egg and an entirely different person was created?

Yeah, we've been led to where we are by the conditions that dictate the universe, but there's a wealth of other conditions that might equally have led to a vastly different universe.

And I don't think there's anything inherently special about life. I agree with the OP on that. I just think it's refreshing to put us in context on grand scale, and see all of the huge number of conditions that had to come about to create life.

We're just one of an infinite number of possible outcomes. We're not special, just very lucky.

hondasam · 07-09-2011 1:59am

housetypeb wrote: »

Ffs, I 'm not depressed-I'm pensive,(staring manfully off into the wild blue yonder,which happens to be the gable of the house )

you are depressing me.

hondasam · 07-09-2011 1:59am

Aleena Hot Manager wrote: »

Well I have the miney, I have the land, and as I'm from Mayo I have the Edna Kenny/Hardy Buck Factor. I can't remember what this thread is even about but form a qeueue

Mayo I feel more sorry you than I do for the op.

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 2:02am

Aleena Hot Manager wrote: »

Well I have the miney, I have the land, and as I'm from Mayo I have the Edna Kenny/Hardy Buck Factor. I can't remember what this thread is even about but form a qeueue

I'm a bit like you,have the money,sold the the land though, and am willing to forgive the mayo handicap-shure you'll get over that with the right treatment and remember the thread you're in,It doesn't matter anyway.

Tesco Massacre · 07-09-2011 2:06am

We believe in nothing, Lebowski!

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 07-09-2011 2:14am

hondasam wrote: »

Mayo I feel more sorry you than I do for the op.

racist, post reported

stealinhorses · 07-09-2011 2:15am

How can life, in the form of humans, ever come up with an idea such as nihilism, claiming that life itself is meaningless?

Also, people are made entirely of atoms that don't have a consciousness. How can many atoms put together ever gain the ability to recognise their own existence?

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 2:29am

stealinhorses wrote: »

How can life, in the form of humans, ever come up with an idea such as nihilism, claiming that life itself is meaningless?

Also, people are made entirely of atoms that don't have a consciousness. How can many atoms put together ever gain the ability to recognise their own existence?

Well,how did you manage it?

hondasam · 07-09-2011 2:32am

Aleena Hot Manager wrote: »

racist, post reported

I know it's terrible, Mayo is lovely but not a patch on Galway.

hatrickpatrick · 07-09-2011 2:32am

We are still going to be alive for an average of 50 or 60 years (probably longer as science advances).

During those years we can either be happy or miserable.

One's mission in life should be to relish it. Do what you need to do in order to achieve happiness.

housetypeb · 07-09-2011 2:47am

Abi wrote: »

Pass that spliff

I'll take a drag too as it's passing by.

Nothing matters

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