Celtic reinstated to Europa League

IRISHSPORTSGUY · 02-09-2011 4:35pm #1

Damn, was enjoying using the LOI > SPL line. :pac:

Random · 02-09-2011 4:42pm

Source - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14754447.stm
Sion have 3 days to appeal.

tallaghtmick · 02-09-2011 4:46pm

So whos in celtics group?

Fizman · 02-09-2011 4:49pm

They'll probably get bashed.

Atletico Madrid, Udinese and Rennes.

TheBuilder · 02-09-2011 4:49pm

tallaghtmick wrote: »

So whos in celtics group?

Udinese, Atletico and Rennes. Very tough group.

Coillte_Bhoy · 02-09-2011 4:49pm

tallaghtmick wrote: »

So whos in celtics group?

Atheltico Madrid
Rennes

super_furry · 02-09-2011 4:53pm

Fizman wrote: »

They'll probably get bashed.

Atletico Madrid, Udinese and Rennes.

Rovers could well do better than them in the group stages too.

bobmalooka · 02-09-2011 4:54pm

super_furry wrote: »

Rovers could well do better than them in the group stages too.

True, celtic have the bstard group

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2011 4:58pm

Celtic dont deserve that place after last week

Dempsey · 02-09-2011 5:07pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Celtic dont deserve that place after last week

Sion cheated against Celtic, they dont deserved to be in Europe.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 02-09-2011 5:11pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Sion cheated against Celtic, they dont deserved to be in Europe.

I agree with that

Said in the Celtic thread Sion have confirmed they are appealing this

gooch2k9 · 02-09-2011 5:11pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Sion cheated against Celtic, they dont deserved to be in Europe.

What they do?

steelcityblues · 02-09-2011 5:12pm

I really can't see them being in the top two -all the Scottish clubs are hopeless right now.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2011 5:13pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Sion cheated against Celtic, they dont deserved to be in Europe.

they both dont deserve to be there...

Celtic got away with robbery though

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 02-09-2011 5:13pm

gooch2k9 wrote: »

What they do?

Played five players that were brought in after a transfer embargo eas put on them

Het-Field · 02-09-2011 5:15pm

Ultimately it is irrelevant.

Glasgow Celtic are a pale shadow of what they were in the mid noughties, and during O'Neill's tenure.

Their current squad would struggle in the Championship, with teams like West Ham United, Leicester, and Blackpool boasting far better squads than Celtic.

Dempsey · 02-09-2011 5:16pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

they both dont deserve to be there...

Celtic got away with robbery though

Celtic dont deserve to be there because they played badly and lost to a club that cheated? :rolleyes:

Same people that turn it into a Celtic bashing thread...

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2011 5:17pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Celtic dont deserve to be there because they played badly full stop

FYP

Dempsey · 02-09-2011 5:19pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

FYP

So the fact that they cheated is irrelevant?

Het-Field · 02-09-2011 5:20pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Celtic dont deserve to be there because they played badly and lost to a club that cheated? :rolleyes:

Same people that turn it into a Celtic bashing thread...

A good comparison would be a mid ranking Championship team.

Big Fish-Tiny Pond.

Bash Bash Bash

RoryMac · 02-09-2011 5:21pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

they both dont deserve to be there...

Celtic got away with robbery though

A little ridiculous to claim "Celtic got away with robbery" yeah they didn't perform over the 2 legs but Sion broke the rules by fielding almost half a team of ineligible players!

Imagine what these boards would be like if the same happened to Rovers or God forbid a French striker scored a dodgy goal with his hand against Ireland.

Dempsey · 02-09-2011 5:21pm

Het-Field wrote: »

A good comparison would be a mid ranking Championship team.

Big Fish-Tiny Pond.

Very much irrelevant to this thread. What has it got to do with Sion getting thrown out of Europe

NOTHING

Same shít, same people! :rolleyes:

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2011 5:21pm

Dempsey wrote: »

So the fact that they cheated is irrelevant?

No did not say that hence why I said both deserve to go through earlier:cool:

Not going say anymore on matter only to say they are lucky they got second chance...

I rather give it to more deserving team, but rules are rules.

/

Het-Field · 02-09-2011 5:23pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Very much irrelevant to this thread. What has it got to do with Sion getting thrown out of Europe

NOTHING

Same shít, same people! :rolleyes:

No. It is totally relevant.

A small fry club are smiling over their reinstatement, even though they failed to qualify on the field. They both dont deserve to be there, or the game should be replayed with the ineligible players out.

Look, the entire thing is irrelevant to me.

FlawedGenius · 02-09-2011 5:24pm

Great news! Theres now two Irish clubs in Europe!:eek:

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2011 5:26pm

FlawedGenius wrote: »

Great news! Theres now two Irish clubs in Europe!:eek:

Who is the other??? St Pats, Sligo??

Dempsey · 02-09-2011 5:29pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No did not say that hence why I said both deserve to go through earlier:cool:

Not going say anymore on matter only to say they are lucky they got second chance...

I rather give it to more deserving team, but rules are rules.

/

Nothing lucky about it, Sion cheated, they were warned beforehand, ignored it and they are being thrown out as a consequence.

Who would be more 'deserving'? Some club that wasnt good enough to get a European Place in their league? UEFA have moved away from throwing in all the richest clubs into European competitions and actually going about distributing the wealth more evenly.

Dempsey · 02-09-2011 5:31pm

Het-Field wrote: »

No. It is totally relevant.

A small fry club are smiling over their reinstatement, even though they failed to qualify on the field. They both dont deserve to be there, or the game should be replayed with the ineligible players out.

Look, the entire thing is irrelevant to me.

So it would only matter if it was a big EPL club or something? :facepalm

If the entire thing is irrelevant to you, why are you posting an opinion about it?

02-09-2011 5:36pm

This is good for Scottish football.

Afaik, with all the scottish teams all knocked not of Europe, teams were looking at 3 qualifying rounds next year. This will obviously boost the co-effiecent.

vicwatson · 02-09-2011 5:37pm

From BBC Website -

Sion signed five players while the club were still under a transfer ban imposed by Fifa after breaching rules over the signing of Egypt goalkeeper Essam El-Hadary three years ago.

How were they able to sign players if there was a ban in place? Did the Swiss FA not have to ratify the signings ?

Wolfe Tone · 02-09-2011 5:42pm

Its only fair, the other team cheated in a big way, hopefully they can do decent in europe.

chopperbyrne · 02-09-2011 5:43pm

Did they play any of those players in earlier qualifying matches?

If Celtic get reinstated, surely this opens the doors for every team Sion have beaten in European qualifying matches this season to appeal?

RoryMac · 02-09-2011 5:48pm

vicwatson wrote: »

From BBC Website -

Sion signed five players while the club were still under a transfer ban imposed by Fifa after breaching rules over the signing of Egypt goalkeeper Essam El-Hadary three years ago.

How were they able to sign players if there was a ban in place? Did the Swiss FA not have to ratify the signings ?

They appealed that ban in a Swiss court and had it overturned but UEFA/FIFA rules state all appeals have to go through their appeal system. Sion are also in trouble with other Swiss teams who have talked about boycotting games against Sion if they field the players in question.

RoryMac · 02-09-2011 5:49pm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Did they play any of those players in earlier qualifying matches?

If Celtic get reinstated, surely this opens the doors for every team Sion have beaten in European qualifying matches this season to appeal?

The games against Celtic were Sion's first European games

Jelle1880 · 02-09-2011 5:50pm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Did they play any of those players in earlier qualifying matches?

If Celtic get reinstated, surely this opens the doors for every team Sion have beaten in European qualifying matches this season to appeal?

It was Sion's first couple of games in the tournament.

greenman09 · 02-09-2011 5:50pm

Bottom line here is that Celtic are very lucky to be back in it. Couldn't do the job in the pitch against a team they should have beat in the first place, lucky boys if ye ask me

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2011 5:51pm

greenman09 wrote: »

Bottom line here is that Celtic are very lucky to be back in it. Couldn't do the job in the pitch against a team they should have beat in the first place, lucky boys if ye ask me

yep agree

Dempsey · 02-09-2011 5:53pm

greenman09 wrote: »

Bottom line here is that Celtic are very lucky to be back in it. Couldn't do the job in the pitch against a team they should have beat in the first place, lucky boys if ye ask me

We knew this was going to happen before the tie was played if Sion played those ineligible players, I fail to see the 'luck'.

RoryMac · 02-09-2011 5:56pm

greenman09 wrote: »

Bottom line here is that Celtic are very lucky to be back in it. Couldn't do the job in the pitch against a team they should have beat in the first place, lucky boys if ye ask me

Nah lucky is getting a dodgy penalty in extra time!

karma_ · 02-09-2011 5:58pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

they both dont deserve to be there...

Celtic got away with robbery though

I'll be as blunt as I can here, but this is unadulterated bullshít. Please explain to everyone just exactly why they don't deserve to be there.

Basically, Sion broke UEFA rules, they are in clear contravention of them and should have been removed immediately. UEFA are partly to blame for this fiasco for letting it go this far without action, but to say that Celtic don;t deserve to be there is just plain wrong.

Columbia · 02-09-2011 6:02pm

Celtic are damn lucky. They've essentially gotten a bye into the group stages by virtue of having drawn Sion. They are in the competition by chance, every other club by merit.

Paparazzo · 02-09-2011 6:02pm

I'd still fancy Rovers to beat them.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 02-09-2011 6:06pm

Anyone that says its wrong for Celtic to take Sion's place in this are really so far off the mark its not true Sion cheated simple so Celtic put in a protest and the SFA backed them up both correctly

PauloMN · 02-09-2011 6:11pm

Should have known before I clicked in here that it would be the usual haters in here.

Even BBE is defending the decision!! :pac: (Good man BBE, we'll convert you yet.... see the light etc.)

RoryMac · 02-09-2011 6:11pm

Columbia wrote: »

Celtic are damn lucky. They've essentially gotten a bye into the group stages by virtue of having drawn Sion. They are in the competition by chance, every other club by merit.

Surely every draw for a cup is a matter of luck?!?

Maybe Sion were lucky to draw Celtic when they were missing 4 of their best players and instead of cheating should have played by the rules and knocked them out on merit?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 02-09-2011 6:15pm

PauloMN wrote: »

Should have known before I clicked in here that it would be the usual haters in here.

Even BBE is defending the decision!! :pac: (Good man BBE, we'll convert you yet.... see the light etc.)

Now you know there's not a hope in hell of that happening my Bro-in-law has been trying that for 32 years

PauloMN · 02-09-2011 6:16pm

Paparazzo wrote: »

I'd still fancy Rovers to beat them.

It would be a close one, I'll not argue that.

PauloMN · 02-09-2011 6:17pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Now you know there's not a hope in hell of that happening my Bro-in-law has been trying that for 32 years

Tell him to keep up the good work.

ColeTrain · 02-09-2011 6:27pm

greenman09 wrote: »

Bottom line here is that Celtic are very lucky to be back in it. Couldn't do the job in the pitch against a team they should have beat in the first place, lucky boys if ye ask me

Sion broke the rules, it's that simple. Every club has to abide by them, Sion basically put us through by starting them players - pure and simple.

No excusing Celtic's performance fair enough. Should have put a few past them at home. Majstorovic decided the tie in the 2nd leg by getting sent off after 42 seconds and giving away a penalty. At least he will serve his ban.

BTW this isn't over yet, Sion have appealed the decision.

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Anyone that says its wrong for Celtic to take Sion's place in this are really so far off the mark its not true Sion cheated simple so Celtic put in a protest and the SFA backed them up both correctly

Fair play Broxi. Tbh I'd be kinda sickened if it was in reverse and Rangers had gotten through over it but still, it would be hard to argue against it. Sion shot themselves basically.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-09-2011 7:47pm

karma_ wrote: »

I'll be as blunt as I can here, but this is unadulterated bullshít. Please explain to everyone just exactly why they don't deserve to be there.

Basically, Sion broke UEFA rules, they are in clear contravention of them and should have been removed immediately. UEFA are partly to blame for this fiasco for letting it go this far without action, but to say that Celtic don;t deserve to be there is just plain wrong.

:pac::pac:

Ye dont deserve to be there because ye are **** basically.

Just count yer lucky stars ye got second chance.

Sion deserved to be knocked out no problem with that, but yer performance did not make ye deserve to get the place.

Best of luck though, ye ill need it all.

SantryRed · 02-09-2011 7:52pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

Sion broke the rules, it's that simple. Every club has to abide by them, Sion basically put us through by starting them players - pure and simple.

No excusing Celtic's performance fair enough. Should have put a few past them at home. Majstorovic decided the tie in the 2nd leg by getting sent off after 42 seconds and giving away a penalty. At least he will serve his ban.

BTW this isn't over yet, Sion have appealed the decision.

Fair play Broxi. Tbh I'd be kinda sickened if it was in reverse and Rangers had gotten through over it but still, it would be hard to argue against it. Sion shot themselves basically.

In all fairness I'm sure Rangers are delighted with this news. Celtic now have an extra 6 games before Christmas, and in all fairness will more than likely not progress.

Celtic reinstated to Europa League

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