Iceland Coming to Waterford

danjo-xx

Read somewhere the other day that their going to open more stores and the first 3 one of whom will be in Waterford in about 3months.

Never been in one of their stores, is it just frozen food or wha and do they have real bargains.:(

deisemum

It's mostly frozen stuff but they also do fresh produce as well.

It's years since I shopped in them when I lived in London and they were fine pricewise but this was before Lidl and Aldi.

Not The Real Scarecrow

Just as long as they don't bring their ash cloud I'll be happy..........groannnnnnnn

ziedth

As someone who works in a factory and can't find retail work in Waterford I welcome them. Saves me moving away when I finish up in a few weeks if I got in there.

However, I'm surprised they are trying to break into the market over here. I think the Irish market is overcrowded as it is in terms of supermarkets.

michellie

ziedth wrote: »

As someone who works in a factory and can't find retail work in Waterford I welcome them. Saves me moving away when I finish up in a few weeks if I got in there.

However, I'm surprised they are trying to break into the market over here. I think the Irish market is overcrowded as it is in terms of supermarkets.

Yea we have supermarkets every corner you turn here, wonder where it'll be location-wise?

Woodgate

michellie wrote: »

Yea we have supermarkets every corner you turn here, wonder where it'll be location-wise?

Ballybricken or The Quay, both the coldest spots in Waterford:D

batm!ke

Woodgate wrote: »

michellie wrote: »

Yea we have supermarkets every corner you turn here, wonder where it'll be location-wise?

Ballybricken or The Quay, both the coldest spots in Waterford:D

Would love to see it go in where Besco used to be if Ballybricken IS an option? That area is starting to look it's age with so many shops ceasing to trade up there.

ziedth

I actually have no idea how Iceland operate in the UK. Like do they go out on their own like Aldi or take a prime retail unit like say Marks & Spensers?

Bards

According to an article I read - the are trying to find locations next to main supermarkets to feed off their footfall.

Aquos76

Not sure how big a premises an Iceland outlet would require, but surely that empty unit next door to Kelly and Dollard (hickeys old unit) would be ideal, across from Superquinn and lidl, and the new Aldi and buylo only around the corner, Parking however may also be another issue. The space in front of K&D for cars is not the biggest of areas.

bazual

I heard some months ago it was gonna be between Cost plus sofa and Buylo. Could be someone blowing smoke or ash though

Asmodean

Is that little frozen food shop still open that was out beside woodies? Seemed to be a mini iceland. Was never in there.

Professey Chin

Asmodean wrote: »

Is that little frozen food shop still open that was out beside woodies? Seemed to be a mini iceland. Was never in there.

Best shop ever for parties & stuff

billiejosie

bazual wrote: »

I heard some months ago it was gonna be between Cost plus sofa and Buylo. Could be someone blowing smoke or ash though

Yeah I heard that from someone aswell it was going into the empty unit between them alright, I cant wait, I love nosying around new shops, I'm such an aul one!

wmpdd3

Well it seems true anyway:

The Dublin-based AIM retail group is understood to have identified locations in towns and cities including Clonmel, Athlone, Cork, Waterford and Carlow for the initial phases of its expansion of the Iceland discount food brand in Ireland.

AIM, which was founded by India-born businessman Naeem Maniar, said last year that it expected to spend between €35m and €50m opening 40 Iceland outlets here by 2014.

The group owns the master franchise in Ireland for the UK retail business. It secured the rights to the brand in 2008 after Iceland exited the Irish market in 2005 as it attempted to refocus the chain's offering.

By late 2010 AIM had four Iceland outlets in Ireland -- all of them in Dublin. The 40 Iceland stores AIM intends opening are expected to create over 1,000 jobs.

AIM chief executive Tom Keogh said earlier this year that it was possible the 40 stores could be open in four years.

Among the other locations that have been earmarked for outlets are Ashbourne, Co Meath; Carlow, and Coolock in Dublin.

AIM has been seeking sites beside existing multiples or convenience stores in order to capitalise on the Iceland model, which isn't perceived as a direct competitor of larger operators.

Ambitious

A spokesman for Iceland said plans for a number of locations are advanced but not confirmed.

AIM was established over 20 years ago by Mr Maniar and also operates stores under the Homeware brand that sell furnishings and electrical goods. It also owns a chain of discount €2 shops. The group is also planning an ambitious expansion of those two brands.

The AIM group has received financial backing from Bank of Baroda, India's third biggest lender, as well as Bank of Ireland and Ulster Bank.

- John Mulligan

Irish Independent

WonderWoman!

Asmodean wrote: »

Is that little frozen food shop still open that was out beside woodies? Seemed to be a mini iceland. Was never in there.

me neither it don't do much business . It's always empty when I'm passing anyway

ComfyKnickers

Woman working in Buy Lo on Cork Road told my mother it was going next door to them.

billiejosie

ComfyKnickers wrote: »

Woman working in Buy Lo on Cork Road told my mother it was going next door to them.

Thats where I heard it aswell, assuming they'd know!

zeppe

I hear Roy Keane is managing it too:D

spankmemunkey

2 things to say on this

1. whats the story with this shop opening?

2.While this topic was being talked about there were lots of people saying how great it was and how great it was for cheap processed food.

Ladies and gentlemen the current horse meat scandal should be enough proof to you all that the cheaper the food is doesnt mean its good, how can food costing 1 euro or 2 euro be made with anything but the worst and cheapest ingredients you could find and how any mother could feed their kids this is beyond me.

Tom_Cruise

spankmemunkey wrote: »

2 things to say on this

1. whats the story with this shop opening?

2.While this topic was being talked about there were lots of people saying how great it was and how great it was for cheap processed food.

Ladies and gentlemen the current horse meat scandal should be enough proof to you all that the cheaper the food is doesnt mean its good, how can food costing 1 euro or 2 euro be made with anything but the worst and cheapest ingredients you could find and how any mother could feed their kids this is beyond me.

Some people just cant afford quality food all the time.

Partizan

spankmemunkey wrote: »

2 things to say on this

1. whats the story with this shop opening?

2.While this topic was being talked about there were lots of people saying how great it was and how great it was for cheap processed food.

Ladies and gentlemen the current horse meat scandal should be enough proof to you all that the cheaper the food is doesnt mean its good, how can food costing 1 euro or 2 euro be made with anything but the worst and cheapest ingredients you could find and how any mother could feed their kids this is beyond me.

+1

Hopefully this crowd will never come near the place.

spankmemunkey

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Some people just cant afford quality food all the time.

Fruit and veg can be bought in aldi and lidl now for 50 and 60 cent, Rice is cheap as is pasta.

I dont think the question is whether people can afford it or not the question is could the parents be arsed to cook a meal where they may have to do a little bit more preparation work other than unwrapping a frozen pizza and sticking it in the oven.

Again, if you think horse meat is bad what do you think their putting in other food? its not about producing food fit for consumption the emphasis is on cutting costs increasing shelf life and sticking enough flavour enhancers in to cover up any bad taste, If i was a regular fast food eater i would be wondering when they are going to test the local chineese!

tankbarry

If i was a regular fast food eater i would be wondering when they are going to test the local chineese!

hey keep away from the chinese alright leave them alone

spankmemunkey

I bet theyve already got rid of the cat food and dog food they use in their meals covered up with so much curry you dont knwo what your eating:p as their expecting the inspectors!

Dont forget on a serious note they get their food from suppliers probably in a chineese wholesalers who probably get their food from china direct so you can imagine the quality of the "Chicken" they use or the "Beef" or the other ingredients, if it happened in Burger King and Super Macs what makes you so sure that the chineese and or Indian take away arent using this mystery meat?

I hope someone has sense to do a DNA inspection on their meat.

I mean do you think their puttin free range guaranteed Irish Chicken in your meal? not on your nelly! theyre using the cheapest stuff they can get!

kaef

used to work in Green Isle factory, which was producing frozen pies for Iceland, GodFellas, Green Isle, Tesco.
I'm going to tell you secret: The only difference between these brands is a box. Nothing else.

spankmemunkey

I useto work in pharmaceutical production and i can tell you there were things going on there that shouldnt have, and when the IMB came in to inspect we knew days in advance place was cleaned for 2 days everything was done to spec til they left! all things mass produced by human hand could be called into question thats just the way it is!

Nypd

spankmemunkey wrote: »

I bet theyve already got rid of the cat food and dog food they use in their meals covered up with so much curry you dont knwo what your eating:p as their expecting the inspectors!

Dont forget on a serious note they get their food from suppliers probably in a chineese wholesalers who probably get their food from china direct so you can imagine the quality of the "Chicken" they use or the "Beef" or the other ingredients, if it happened in Burger King and Super Macs what makes you so sure that the chineese and or Indian take away arent using this mystery meat?

I hope someone has sense to do a DNA inspection on their meat.

I mean do you think their puttin free range guaranteed Irish Chicken in your meal? not on your nelly! theyre using the cheapest stuff they can get!

Most of their meats would be sourced in Ireland, wouldn't be the highest grade.
Used to deliver meat to a good few a number of years ago.

spankmemunkey

Nypd wrote: »

Most of their meats would be sourced in Ireland, wouldn't be the highest grade.
Used to deliver meat to a good few a number of years ago.

Well we thought most of the meat we were getting in other places were sourced in Ireland and we were told they were sourced in Ireland but they werent so you cant trust them.

Luckycharms_74

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Some people just cant afford quality food all the time.

Thats a load of horsesh1t.
It was posted earlier that most people aren't bothered their arse to cook a proper dinner & thus resort to ready meals.

Many butchers will offer meat packs for a special price.
I'll give you an example:

Molloy's do a €20 family deal which consists of :
4x chicken fillets
4 x pork chops
1lb x mince beef
1lb rashers
1lb sausages
1 x back bacon

Add in a 7.5kg bag of spuds for about €6
2kg bag pasta €3
2kg rice €3
And spend another €8 on fruit & veg

For €40 you would have enough to keep the kids fed for the week and they eat healthy as well.

Tom_Cruise

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Thats a load of horsesh1t.
It was posted earlier that most people are bothered there arse to cook a proper dinner & thus resort to ready meals.

Many butchers will offer meat packs for a special price.
I'll give you an example:

Molloy's do a €20 family deal which consists of :
4x chicken fillets
4 x pork chops
1lb x mince beef
1lb rashers
1lb sausages
1 x back bacon

Add in a 7.5kg bag of spuds for about €6
2kg bag pasta €3
2kg rice €3
And spend another €8 on fruit & veg

For €40 you would have enough to keep the kids fed for the week and they eat healthy as well.

What about the people who don't have 40 euros to spend on food for the week?

spankmemunkey

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Thats a load of horsesh1t.
It was posted earlier that most people are bothered there arse to cook a proper dinner & thus resort to ready meals.

Many butchers will offer meat packs for a special price.
I'll give you an example:

Molloy's do a €20 family deal which consists of :
4x chicken fillets
4 x pork chops
1lb x mince beef
1lb rashers
1lb sausages
1 x back bacon

Add in a 7.5kg bag of spuds for about €6
2kg bag pasta €3
2kg rice €3
And spend another €8 on fruit & veg

For €40 you would have enough to keep the kids fed for the week and they eat healthy as well.

i think you wanted to say ARENT bothered in your opening statement, I agree. I think theres a huge amount of people who have kids just cos its a result of not taking precautions and therefore theyre lumped with kids, there are those who dont take precautions and dont plan kids but are delighted to have them but theres a hell of a lot of people who dont give a toss, once they have their beer money fag money and their Iphone or facebook.

spankmemunkey

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

What about the people who don't have 40 euros to spend on food for the week?

Well a McDonalds for say 2 adults and 2 kids is gonna cost ye the guts of 30 euros and thats one meal,

Theres still no excuse as said earlier, Lidl and Aldi do 50 cent offers regularly for say a bag of baby potatoes in lidl which are very nice and theres pasta bags of pasta there for less than 1 euro or there abouts, theres also Pesto that as far as the label goes doesnt contain many nasties, thats about 1 euro so theres plenty of choice for both food and veg, I still think alot of parents dont priorities what their money is going on. I know someone who has a new enough car with 3 kids and and a wife, none of them working yet they HAVE TO have the car when they clearly dont, if the car was sold they would have about 7 thousand if they were willing to accept a loss of about 2-3 grand on it, 20 years ago very few families had cars never mind 2 car families, get rid of the bill pay phones and just use top up, get rid of sky and use free to air.

Luckycharms_74

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

What about the people who don't have 40 euros to spend on food for the week?

I think my post has gotten the thread a little derailed.
They might not have €40 to spend on food but that figure was just an example, they can improvise and shop around, etc.
They thing is that they will make sure they have money for drink/cigs, etc.

Nypd

Bobbys butchers was or still is doing a €20 deal

Cabaal

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Some people just cant afford quality food all the time.

Nonsense, eating health doesn't mean its expensive. People choose heavily processed low quality foods not because they are expensive all the time but because they take no time to prepare.

These foods are often generally more unhealthy and are effectively addictive as they contain high amounts of salt, sugar and if they don't contain sugar they contain high fructose corn syrup which is actually sweeter then sugar....you'd think this would mean they'd use less of it but they generally use more of the stuff!

You can eat healthy for very little but it takes time to prepare your food.

I've seen the frozen mince in Iceland, they look like feed pellets that you'd give to chickens. Extremely heavily processed and god knows whats in them.

spankmemunkey

Yeah Corn Syrup, guess where it came from AMERICA.

Cabaal

spankmemunkey wrote: »

Yeah Corn Syrup, guess where it came from AMERICA.

Well, mass production of it was actually invented by the Japanese but there's about 500k tonne of the stuff produced in the EU annually so it doesn't really come from America as such.

However it certainly did grow in popularity first in the USA due to massive government subsidies to the corn industry by the US Government (in a effort to make food cheaper for consumer's...thanks Nixon!), due to this HFC became extremely popular in the 1970's and 80's and at this stage its in a frightening amount of products in the states

Although HFC is not as widespread in Europe as in America if you look at the labels on products you buy you'll none the less come across it.

Personally I now avoid such products where I can identify HFC also known as isoglucose also known as glucose-fructose syrup.

spankmemunkey

Cabaal wrote: »

Well, mass production of it was actually invented by the Japanese but there's about 500k tonne of the stuff produced in the EU annually so it doesn't really come from America as such.

However it certainly did grow in popularity first in the USA due to massive government subsidies to the corn industry by the US Government (in a effort to make food cheaper for consumer's...thanks Nixon!), due to this HFC became extremely popular in the 1970's and 80's and at this stage its in a frightening amount of products in the states

Although HFC is not as widespread in Europe as in America if you look at the labels on products you buy you'll none the less come across it.

Personally I now avoid such products where I can identify HFC also known as isoglucose also known as glucose-fructose syrup.

What does HFC stand for exactly? Its what i meant really the Americans championed it.

A friend of mine was actually on Joe Duffy or Damien Orielly as Joe wasnt there, about TARTAZINE, She noticed this written on the back of a tin of peas TARTAZINE was used to colour mushy peas but it also had written on it, may have adverse effects on children, turns out this stuff was banned in animal food in 1979 there were alot of horror stories on then about how dangerous this stuff was, so you see they dont really care what they feed you, this call raised the issue and the colourant was subsiquently taken out of food and replaced with a new colourant.

MORAL OF THE STORY READ EVERY LABEL ON FOOD, they are suppose to tell you the truth on the label!

Luckycharms_74

spankmemunkey wrote: »

What does HFC stand for exactly? Its what i meant really the Americans championed it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

moose3844

Iceland is klass, I lived in London last year and was on a major budget. On more than one occasion iceland came to my rescue.

They dont need a massive space as nearly everything is frozen, hense the name iceland. Id say the old besco on bally bricken could be a good location only down side is parking, unless they work out a deal with the multi story on the glen. I doubt Aldi would allow it though

spankmemunkey

moose3844 wrote: »

Iceland is klass, I lived in London last year and was on a major budget. On more than one occasion iceland came to my rescue.

They dont need a massive space as nearly everything is frozen, hense the name iceland. Id say the old besco on bally bricken could be a good location only down side is parking, unless they work out a deal with the multi story on the glen. I doubt Aldi would allow it though

I think you may have missed a bit of this discussion, They were suppose to move in to the place near McDonalds on the Cork Road, Next to Buy Lo.

It might be Klass as you say if you dont care about the quality of the meat, where it comes from, whats been done to it, by who, and from places where the food quality laws might not be as stringent as ours in Ireland and europe, that sounds strange after the horse meat scandal but it was detected and exposed, and Ireland should be proud that they were one of the few countries doing DNA testing.

Dont forget its cheap for a reason, look at the prawns in tesco they are from all over the place vietnam thailand the philipines all places I wouldnt like to be eating prawns from. I picked up a pack from an expensive Irish company and they too were from Vietnam, they must be thinking if you cant beat them join them

moose3844

good thing i dont like prawns so

cassette50

Iceland has not had any products test positive for horse-meat yet.

dzilla

cassette50 wrote: »

Iceland has not had any products test positive for horse-meat yet.

Exactly dont know why those other are speaking about them as if they have

spankmemunkey

Thats cos their meat isnt from europe its from BRAZIL Philipines Vietnam all those places, just because they havent chucked Horse Meat in with it doesnt mean its not bad for you!

spankmemunkey

The owner of ICELAND (the shop) was in the sun today saying that he wouldnt eat any ready made meals! or cheap food!:eek: says it all really!

SweetCaliber

I did hear that they are moving into the Ferrybank Shopping Center? The "abandoned" one where the library is?

One of my friends recalled seeing shopfitters in there?

spankmemunkey

SweetCaliber wrote: »

I did hear that they are moving into the Ferrybank Shopping Center? The "abandoned" one where the library is?

One of my friends recalled seeing shopfitters in there?

I think your friend may have seen SHOP LIFTERS in there!

chainsawman

I think Bescos would be its best location except for the car parking space, what a pity.. Used to go to Bescos for my mother years back... Their butchers were brilliant, rashers was top class.

hardybuck

The Chief Executive of Iceland was on a BBC Panorama programme last night which was focused on the scandal.

Among other massive PR errors, he had a swipe at Ireland.

Iceland "I know EXACTLY what's in these burgers. It's 78% B-E-E-F"

Reporter: "But the Irish Food Safety Authority have said that it contains H-O-R-S-E"

Iceland: "Well, that's the Irish isn't it...?"

I never shopped there before, but I certainly won't be shopping there again. He also said they didn't test for horse, but said they wouldn't test for dog or cat either...