Abolish the Dole

Donahg

Its time to abolish the dole for anybody that has been on it since pre 2007. This country can no longer afford to pay dole to people who never wanted to work,Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

Temaz

Another dole thread:rolleyes:

chin_grin

This should be interesting.

miju

Donahg wrote: »

Its time to abolish the dole for anybody that has been on it since pre 2007. This country can no longer afford to pay dole to people who never wanted to work,Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

100% agree someone on the dole since 2007 is nothing but a waster and leech on this country. But what you suggest is never going to happen unfortunately

Jimmy Bottlehead

chin_grin wrote: »

This should be interesting.

Shame we can't abolish you.

we'llallhavetea_old

abolish the dole threads

FatherLen

hey lets all shout abuse at op.



ABUSE

Spacedog

yeah, enslave them poor. can't they finish off those famine roads to nowhere?

rabble rabble rabble

Vicxas

Leave bob dole alone!!!

flutterflye

I don't even think this warrants intelligent replies, as the op is just foolish and impossible.

Mr Benevolent

Moronic idea. Abolishing the dole will dramtically increase violent crime rates. Extra policing, more spent on healthcare, social workers etc = more than you just saved abolishing the dole. Cue many more homeless too.

The dole in Ireland for a single person is on the low side compared to our cost of living index.

Oh yeah, and I've just stuck you on my ignore list, OP.

roast

It's never going to be abolished.

But for those people who have been on it since pre-2007, I reckon it should be at least halved, pending a means test or an examination of the circumstances. Laziness shouldn't be rewarded

chin_grin

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

Shame we can't abolish you.

ScumLord

You might as well have called this thread "lets increase crime rates".

My name is URL

Confab wrote: »

Moronic idea. Abolishing the dole will dramtically increase violent crime rates. Extra policing, more spent on healthcare, social workers etc = more than you just saved abolishing the dole. Cue many more homeless too.

Quiet you.. your logic has no place here!

TheZohanS

Donahg wrote: »

Its time to abolish the dole for anybody that has been on it long term since pre 2007. This country can no longer afford to pay dole to people who never wanted to work,Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

FYP.

miju wrote: »

100% agree someone on the dole since 2007 is nothing but a waster and leech on this country. But what you suggest is never going to happen unfortunately

No Ted, have to disagree with you there, not everybody. I know of a few guys working in sales, in their mid-fifty's, that lost their jobs before the crash and they couldn't find other work. Lots of companies don't want to hire older workers.

nicechick!

Donahg wrote: »

Its time to abolish the dole for anybody that has been on it since pre 2007. This country can no longer afford to pay dole to people who never wanted to work,Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

So to take of the most vulnerable in society

Irish Guitarist

Donahg wrote: »

Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

What about people that came home for lunch, farted, and then went back to work?

Logical Fallacy

Donahg wrote: »

Its time to abolish the dole for anybody that has been on it since pre 2007. This country can no longer afford to pay dole to people who never wanted to work,Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

Shouldn't you be working?

mackg

chin_grin wrote: »

This should be interesting.

It never is

Chuck Stone

I can open beer bottles with a tea spoon.

Helix

Confab wrote: »

Moronic idea. Abolishing the dole will dramtically increase violent crime rates. Extra policing, more spent on healthcare, social workers etc = more than you just saved abolishing the dole. Cue many more homeless too.

The dole in Ireland for a single person is on the low side compared to our cost of living index.

Oh yeah, and I've just stuck you on my ignore list, OP.

yeah, instead we should just keep paying lazy buggers' sky bills

mackg

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I can open beer bottles with a tea spoon.

Which end?

Bipolar Joe

mackg wrote: »

Which end?

The one with the cap on it, DUH.

Chuck Stone

mackg wrote: »

Which end?

The spoon end (rather than the handle).

In fact I prefer to use a tea spoon rather than a bottle opener as it's faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZckS9C5IC4

FloatingVoter

OP, if you're at work, try doing some instead of dossing on Boards.

KungPao

But then this poor chap would be out of a job

http://www.freshplaza.com/2007/1009/dole2.jpg

mackg

FloatingVoter wrote: »

OP, if you're at work, try doing some instead of dossing on Boards.

Fap in the toilets?

eilo1

abolish your face

Sergeant

How did we ever evolve, stopped living in caves and make something of ourselves as a species without the gentle hand of the welfare state to assist us?

Dravokivich

roast wrote: »

It's never going to be abolished.

But for those people who have been on it since pre-2007, I reckon it should be at least halved, pending a means test or an examination of the circumstances. Laziness shouldn't be awarded

Means Test guide lines for the dole:

Is the claimant currently employed? Y/N

Irish Slaves for Europe

Confab wrote: »

Moronic idea. Abolishing the dole will dramtically increase violent crime rates. Extra policing, more spent on healthcare, social workers etc = more than you just saved abolishing the dole. Cue many more homeless too.

Yeah yeah yeah, this scare tactic has been used many a time by workshy bums. Our overpaid, privileged dole scum are so well off that we have one of the worst rates of drug abuse in the world. Heroin abuse and alcohol abuse in particular are rampant among the unemployed. Think of all the savings in healthcare and policing we could make if we reduced dole so that people could only afford food and shelter with it, and maybe the odd pint or two.

mackg

Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home¡­

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill kill the poor¡­tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, miss lily white
Jane fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they¡­
Kill kill kill kill kill the poor¡­tonight

How about this?

mackg

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

Yeah yeah yeah, this scare tactic has been used many a time by workshy bums. Our overpaid, privileged dole scum are so well off that we have one of the worst rates of drug abuse in the world. Heroin abuse and alcohol abuse in particular are rampant among the unemployed. Think of all the savings in healthcare and policing we could make if we reduced dole so that people could only afford food and shelter with it, and maybe the odd pint or two.

When everyone had jobs all they did was take coke from Friday to Sunday.

Temptamperu

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

Yeah yeah yeah, this scare tactic has been used many a time by workshy bums. Our overpaid, privileged dole scum are so well off that we have one of the worst rates of drug abuse in the world. Heroin abuse and alcohol abuse in particular are rampant among the unemployed. Think of all the savings in healthcare and policing we could make if we reduced dole so that people could only afford food and shelter with it, and maybe the odd pint or two.

eh that is simply not true.

Gilldog

Donahg wrote: »

Its time to abolish the dole for anybody that has been on it since pre 2007. This country can no longer afford to pay dole to people who never wanted to work,Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

I love farting at home during a boom

dan719

OP is a c*nt. That is all. No surprise to see Killer Pigeon thanking the post either considering his disbelief that an eighteen year old could support twins working on another thread. All these self important office types on boards don't know what work is, otherwise they wouldn't spend all their time on this.

Oh, and before anyone asks- I work more hours in a week than most do in three, and probably pay more tax than you do too.

MrThrifty

2 points

Anyone who thinks the dole is on the low side for a single person is with the birds. The only way I can see this being the case is if that single person chooses to rent a whole house for over 500 quid a month or some penthouse apartment, or has a lavish lifestyle. I've done the sums...

Second point, if you OWN and live in a house worth 10 million, you are still entitled to the dole as the money is considered inaccessible. Yet if you have a mortgage on a house with say 300k outstanding and have 50k savings in the bank to help pay off the mortgage over time etc, then your dole payment is substantially reduced.

mackg

Gilldog wrote: »

I love farting at home during a boom

best thing about farting during a boom is no one can hear it.

Collie D

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

Yeah yeah yeah, this scare tactic has been used many a time by workshy bums. Our overpaid, privileged dole scum are so well off that we have one of the worst rates of drug abuse in the world. Heroin abuse and alcohol abuse in particular are rampant among the unemployed. Think of all the savings in healthcare and policing we could make if we reduced dole so that people could only afford food and shelter with it, and maybe the odd pint or two.

Care to elaborate or do you just want to spout ****e?

The King of Moo

OP, can you tell me, roughly, how many people in this country have been on the dole since 2007?

I hardly think, however many they are, that they constitute a fundamental problem, relatively speaking.

mikemac

Realy OP, you were over in education forum at the weekend asking about student grants and getting suggestions of interest free bank loans, welfare officers and St. Vincent de Paul

But now you come here and bash people on the dole?

D1stant

roast wrote: »

It's never going to be abolished.

But for those people who have been on it since pre-2007, I reckon it should be at least halved, pending a means test or an examination of the circumstances. Laziness shouldn't be awarded

LOL

KittyeeTrix

mikemac wrote: »

Realy OP, you were over in education forum at the weekend asking about student grants and getting suggestions of interest free bank loans, welfare officers and St. Vincent de Paul

But now you come here and bash people on the dole?

Oh oh, corbed!!:D

Logical Fallacy

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

Yeah yeah yeah, this scare tactic has been used many a time by workshy bums. Our overpaid, privileged dole scum are so well off that we have one of the worst rates of drug abuse in the world. Heroin abuse and alcohol abuse in particular are rampant among the unemployed. Think of all the savings in healthcare and policing we could make if we reduced dole so that people could only afford food and shelter with it, and maybe the odd pint or two.

You see, this is the kind of thing you need to back up with some proof, lest you leave the rest of the posters to assume your ass checks are red raw from pulling such a post from betwixt them.

up for anything

The downside of minimal or no social welfare is gated communities, the need to carry a gun, wondering will your kids make it home from school if someone fails to pick them up from school, the streets in cardboard/galvanised tin city running with sewerage and always looking over your shoulder at the teeming millions who want what you have but have absolutely no way out of the mire. Ireland of the future, no thanks.

roast

D1stant wrote: »

LOL

I lol'd too. I'm too sleepy today :pac:

The King of Moo

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

Yeah yeah yeah, this scare tactic has been used many a time by workshy bums. Our overpaid, privileged dole scum are so well off that we have one of the worst rates of drug abuse in the world. Heroin abuse and alcohol abuse in particular are rampant among the unemployed. Think of all the savings in healthcare and policing we could make if we reduced dole so that people could only afford food and shelter with it, and maybe the odd pint or two.

This attitude really worries me. Do people really think that those on the dole should only be allowed enough money to just about survive? Does that include all the people who've lost their jobs recently and are out looking for work everyday?

There's more to life than just survival, and the dole has to allow for a small amount of comfort. It's not supposed to be a punishment. The dole is quite low anyway, there's really not much room for any luxury, and any time I hear someone say that people on the dole have it easy, I never hear any evidence to back it up.

I think people who call for the dole to be abolished or allow people to just about survive are just trying to live out their own revenge fantasies where scary poor people are demonised and banished from civilised society.

Saila

for all those who are taking the thread seriously the OP said if you have been on it before 2007!! and still are

just sayin..

Killer Pigeon

The dole AND the minimum wage should be abolished. Those people in the under classes who feed like parasites off the dole and social welfare would be churned into factories, increasing the country's workforce and productivity. In the meantime, you'd see a decrease in the amount of unmarried mothers and general social degeneration.

Eric Cartman

Donahg wrote: »

Its time to abolish the dole for anybody that has been on it since pre 2007. This country can no longer afford to pay dole to people who never wanted to work,Anybody who was farting at home during the boom should get no dole.

100% agreed